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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:22:41 AM EDT
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It would be embarrassing to get shot by one of those fat cows I have seen in Photos.
you have pretty good odds if she is aiming at you though, your friends next to you, not so much |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:26:56 AM EDT
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The question I have is, did they issue any ammunition?
My Pastor was stationed at the DMZ in Korea, they gave him a rifle but no ammunition, didn't trust them. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:29:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question I have is, did they issue any ammunition? My Pastor was stationed at the DMZ in Korea, they gave him a rifle but no ammunition, didn't trust them. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:36:33 AM EDT
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As quickly as they were called up, I guarantee that most of the weapons are not zero'd to the shooter.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:38:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So dupe? Seems so... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:39:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its nice to see congress finally accept that you need standard capacity mags and semi auto rifles to protect yourself. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:42:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:43:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As quickly as they were called up, I guarantee that most of the weapons are not zero'd to the shooter. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:47:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:47:32 AM EDT
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Well it is the US military so anybody wearing a man dress and not actively firing a weapon should be off limits right? Or do those ROE only apply in the Middle East?
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:48:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:49:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well it is the US military so anybody wearing a man dress and not actively firing a weapon should be off limits right? Or do those ROE only apply in the Middle East? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:50:53 AM EDT
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Nothing bad ever happened in Concord....
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:51:05 AM EDT
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Rut Roe!!!
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:54:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Very intelligent post right here. Much insightful. Sorry was just trying to bring a bit of inappropriate humor to the fact that US citizens exercising their constitutionally protected rights are facing a bigger military force than nations full of people who would kill any American in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:55:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question I have is, did they issue any ammunition? My Pastor was stationed at the DMZ in Korea, they gave him a rifle but no ammunition, didn't trust them. According to a friend that is there they where issued 15 rounds, supposedly more on the way but 5 days later they have not gotten it. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 11:55:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The NG has been called out in a majority of states for protests and riots over the last 2 years. Please show me how many citizens they have shot and why those citizens got shot. I'll wait... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:01:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:10:25 PM EDT
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This is scary times. I almost wish it were all fake news and will go away once inauguration happens. To think that our country....
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They've been authorized to shoot Americans that pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm for the last two years. How many citizens have been shot by NG troops thus far? I'm not trying to be rude or argumentative, just simply interject facts amongst all the hyperbole. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:16:08 PM EDT
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Define lethal force. Can they use a choker hold or a knee on a neck? How about a batton? Last I heard, tear gas and rubber bullets were s till banned.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:18:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: FBI "Democracy Protectors" activated. 360 messaging. Killing is needed. They closed a post office drop box in Huntington Beach, CA citing it as an area of white extremism....surfers, I presume....blonde, blue-eyed surfers. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:19:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question I have is, did they issue any ammunition? My Pastor was stationed at the DMZ in Korea, they gave him a rifle but no ammunition, didn't trust them. Can confirm they did |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:19:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As quickly as they were called up, I guarantee that most of the weapons are not zero'd to the shooter. At the ranges they would be used at, they dont have to be. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:21:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was told most of them had no actual ammo and it was all for show. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: They've been authorized to shoot Americans that pose an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm for the last two years. How many citizens have been shot by NG troops thus far? I'm not trying to be rude or argumentative, just simply interject facts amongst all the hyperbole. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:22:18 PM EDT
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Buried my father (Korea & Vietnam vet, USA MSG ret.) Thursday, and the NG out of Charleston SC were doing the honor guard. 2 soldiers showed up and did the ceremony: taps, flag folding, etc - no rifle salute. I was told "since the Capitol riot a lot of guys are up there, and the rifle salutes have been nixed by the brass because of the trouble". My reply was a simple long pause and a single word: "whatever".
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:24:09 PM EDT
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Once they check that box what happens after is going to make Kent State and the fallout look like a cake walk.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:26:45 PM EDT
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What if the 20k troops and defensive structures are not there for inauguration. BUT there for what they plan to do to the American people after inauguration.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:28:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They were given the same ability to protect states and their citizens for the last couple of years. As far as delegating the capital building an asset vital to national security or national critical infrastructure, I don't know. I'm not there. These things aren't new. This has all been codified in federal law for quite some time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Once they check that box what happens after is going to make Kent State and the fallout look like a cake walk. But the NG of 1970 and the NG of 2021 are light years different from each other. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:31:31 PM EDT
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Make the rules of engagement retroactive to January 6 so the Capitol Police Lieutenant can be exonerated for murder.
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:31:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:31:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buried my father (Korea & Vietnam vet, USA MSG ret.) Thursday, and the NG out of Charleston SC were doing the honor guard. 2 soldiers showed up and did the ceremony: taps, flag folding, etc - no rifle salute. I was told "since the Capitol riot a lot of guys are up there, and the rifle salutes have been nixed by the brass because of the trouble". My reply was a simple long pause and a single word: "whatever". RIP Sir... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:34:12 PM EDT
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I thought we had the power to go in and throw out to the street the one's who are treasonous.
So it sound like it war and game on. No tar and feathers, throw them out and stomp what little brains they have out. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it. There's much hatred for the NG. Even though it is made up of the people that you live and work with everyday in your communities. But the NG of 1970 and the NG of 2021 are light years different from each other. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Once they check that box what happens after is going to make Kent State and the fallout look like a cake walk. But the NG of 1970 and the NG of 2021 are light years different from each other. That fact is not much of a positive one. So are the various law enforcement groups... |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:35:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: .............. and were cleared in using deadly force then to protect themselves and others from an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:35:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. What are the actual ROE? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:36:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:37:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess the paperwork for Kyle's clearance was "delayed." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .............. and were cleared in using deadly force then to protect themselves and others from an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:40:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What elites have they protected for the last 2 years as Antifa and BLM have been violently protesting? I watched an Army NG medic treat a civilian with a sucking chest wound. He was a local gang banger, but I don't think he was an elite... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong What dog do you have in this fight? Must be a butt hurt NG member. No one is slighting you so it’s weird you are so defensive. But your argument that blm and this are being treated the same is retarded. Kenosha was burned down and a kid had to defend himself against scum bags because no one wanted to go against blm even though they have a track record of destruction. No one was calling in the national guard because of optics. Once Kenosha burned and a patriot cleaned house they activated the guard and games stopped. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:40:29 PM EDT
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Why is Pelosi sending men with guns and not social workers???!
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:40:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are the actual ROE? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. Wait for what? Did I say any had been shot yet? Link says they have been authorized to shoot fellow Americans. Not sure what your intentions are, but most of your responses in this thread are coming across as rude and argumentative. What are the actual ROE? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:41:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I get it. There's much hatred for the NG. Even though it is made up of the people that you live and work with everyday in your communities. But the NG of 1970 and the NG of 2021 are light years different from each other. Yeah, the NG of 2021 are much more capable. Question is: Are they more reasonable? |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What elites have they protected for the last 2 years as Antifa and BLM have been violently protesting? I watched an Army NG medic treat a civilian with a sucking chest wound. He was a local gang banger, but I don't think he was an elite... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong Any links escape me, but there were multiple instances of elected politicians and/or political elites whose residences were reinforced with an authoritative presence when citizenry gathered to express displeasure & unapproval. Granted, those were all probably local political enforcement folks, not NG... ...at this point, what difference does it make |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:43:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We all knew it would come to this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So we are using the military to shoot citizens who may wish to protest against their elected officials? Sounds totally American to me. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:44:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've watched every echelon of leadership brief every echelon of tactical formation of NG troops performing civil disturbance ops that every American has the right to freedom of speech and peaceful assembly. That Americans have the right to possess and carry weapons. That the NG mission is to protect and safeguard. You all keep forgetting that the NG is made up of people that live and work in your communities every day. They're school teachers, mechanics, grocers, cops, firemen, businessmen. They are you. They just pack up and go when called. I thought that was what we were discussing here. |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:45:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its nice to see congress finally accept that you need standard capacity mags and semi auto rifles to protect yourself.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/16/2021 12:45:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What dog do you have in this fight? Must be a butt hurt NG member. No one is slighting you so it's weird you are so defensive. But your argument that blm and this are being treated the same is retarded. Kenosha was burned down and a kid had to defend himself against scum bags because no one wanted to go against blm even though they have a track record of destruction. No one was calling in the national guard because of optics. Once Kenosha burned and a patriot cleaned house they activated the guard and games stopped. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I find it strange that anybody would find fault with giving them the ability to use deadly force to prevent imminent death or serious bodily harm to themselves or others. Agreed, our elected leaders in the high castle are of the utmost importance to our democracy... As much as that sounds great and all, this guy is having a tough time believing that the NG has/is being used to protect citizens other then the elites...and their chosen idiots. Us common folk are of no concern to them... ...in before you tell me I'm wrong What dog do you have in this fight? Must be a butt hurt NG member. No one is slighting you so it's weird you are so defensive. But your argument that blm and this are being treated the same is retarded. Kenosha was burned down and a kid had to defend himself against scum bags because no one wanted to go against blm even though they have a track record of destruction. No one was calling in the national guard because of optics. Once Kenosha burned and a patriot cleaned house they activated the guard and games stopped. The governor called the NG into Kenosha before Rittenhouse's encounter. |
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