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Posted: 1/22/2021 12:44:38 AM EDT

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NRA hasn't been a strong national advocate for the second amendment since the Bush years. Probably longer. They pulled shit to hamstring other lawsuits even then that they now take credit for.

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When have they ever been an advocate for the second amendment? Haven't they always been I believe in the 2nd but..... types?

Posted: 1/22/2021 12:45:53 AM EDT

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Don't care.

Posted: 1/22/2021 12:49:53 AM EDT

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Fuck em

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FPNI

Posted: 1/22/2021 12:52:55 AM EDT

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No more suits for WLP? Sad day.

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Oh he is getting suits, just not the kind he wants.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:01:22 AM EDT

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This only weakens us as gun owners.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:04:42 AM EDT

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So you have the lobbying power to stop it. Seems that you just said Fuck Me.

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So you have the lobbying power to stop it. Seems that you just said Fuck Me.

FNRA. FWLP.

Donate to the FPC instead.

They are what the the boomerfudds think the NRA is. They actually work.

Didn't you used to have a boat as your avatar?

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:12:53 AM EDT

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Even as a Benefactor Life Member, I must quote Ms Janet Jackson: "What have you done for me lately?"

Nothing. No, less than nothing.

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Yep.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:13:45 AM EDT

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This only weakens us as gun owners.

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How?
What has Wayne Inc. and his board of merry grifters really done for "us" ?

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:29:23 AM EDT

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And just when we needed them.

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They wouldn't do shit for us anyway

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:35:03 AM EDT

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Life member here.

The most charitable I can be about the NRA if they drew a lot of the fire from the left. It’s been the smaller groups putting up real results most of my life. If they can’t clean out their own house then someone’s going to do it for them.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:42:44 AM EDT

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Honestly, if the state of New York put Wayne and his buddies in prison and the bankruptcy shielded the organization from dismemberment, we'd be in better shape in a few years compared to that corrupt bunch still being in charge.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:45:51 AM EDT

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Pretty sad, when we need organizations like the NRA the most, it withers and dies.

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It hasn't withered and died. It's been killed by greedy corrupt men.

Posted: 1/22/2021 1:48:43 AM EDT

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They did it to themselves

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You mis-spelled “Wayne did this to himself.”

The NRA was toast the minute Wayne started his purge of the last few years.

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:05:55 AM EDT

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You mis-spelled “Wayne did this to himself.”

The NRA was toast the minute Wayne started his purge of the last few years.

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The NRA was toast when it ignored Neal Knox's warning about Wayne back in 1996. The day of reckoning was just a long time coming.

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:08:32 AM EDT

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FWLP

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:10:52 AM EDT

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I was once a member......

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:15:36 AM EDT

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The industry needs to make a decision on which of the national organizations is going to succeed the NRA and get behind them.

Otherwise, another grifter outfit is just going to fill that void.

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:20:24 AM EDT

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Fuck WLP

Posted: 1/22/2021 2:30:37 AM EDT

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I'm not sure where to start.

I see hard lefties badmouthing the NRA as "their enemy" all the time. Talking about breaking down "the gun culture and the evil NRA who is funding it". They don't realize that the NRA isn't the "evil corporation" they think it is, at least not in the way they think it is, but that it's actually funded by millions of members across America who have until recently been quietly supporting an organization to speak on our behalf. The left thinks the NRA is buying politicians, and forcing through more open and lenient gun laws, while we know the opposite is closer to reality. Problem is, if the NRA goes away, the left thinks they won. They finally beat their Goliath, then they come for us as individuals.

I wouldn't give a shit about Wayne's suits or whatever, if they would just properly represent their base. Their members. Their supporters. If I got more support back from them than a magazine full of advertisements, junk mail with panic headlines asking for more money, and a stupid camouflage Chinese tool bag that falls apart in a month, I'd be more supportive in return. They have had our support for many many many years, and they've sacrificed our freedoms and compromised our strengths too many times lately for me to think of them as a strength for us. But do we give up on them without having an alternate voice? Or is there a way to fix this? I don't want the left to think they took a notch out of "the gun culture" if the NRA folds. We still need a voice. We just need a better, more constitutionally supportive one that will take no shit from any political party.

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:34:29 AM EDT

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Even as a Benefactor Life Member, I must quote Ms Janet Jackson: "What have you done for me lately?"

Nothing. No, less than nothing.

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This is me. Benefactor, and done for now.

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:48:58 AM EDT

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We must send more money! Wayne might run out of suits, and since they're moving, he's gonna need a new mansion.

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:50:33 AM EDT

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the gun owners of the U.S. just need to be told it's their fault the nra isn't successful.

that, if only a few more additional percent of gun owners joined the nra, and gave the nra lots of money, the nra might be more successful in pushing the 2a

oh, what about wlp and cabal? well, just get more people in as voting members, get a new board, and you can vote them out!

or so I've been told

constantly

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@cm

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:50:36 AM EDT

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FNRA

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:51:29 AM EDT

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I'm a life member, and:

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Same here. They have not been very helpful, especially lately.

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:51:42 AM EDT

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I'm so tired of getting letters in the mail begging for money from the NRA. Maybe now they'll actually stop...

Posted: 1/22/2021 7:53:38 AM EDT

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Wait..is a lifetime membership good for your life or theirs?

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I'd damn sure like a refund on mine

FWLP

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:04:54 AM EDT

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GOA is even less accountable to its membership and wastes more percentage wise than the NRA. Why are you guys even suggesting them as an option?

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Yea but they get crap done. While streets urned all summer the GOA not the NRA quietly made head way in congress. They stripped many of the so called red flag laws out of legalization. While the NRA sat on their hands. You can now carry in more federal parks thanks to the GOA. They got the House Joint Resolution 40 into law, which rejected a final rule submitted by the Social Security Administration. Without the President’s actions here, an estimated 75,000 otherwise law-abiding citizens would have had their names submitted to the NICS system as prohibited persons each year.

On and on. What did the NRA do?

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:05:18 AM EDT

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Mission accomplished

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:07:46 AM EDT

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I prefer to send my "national" money to the SAF.....No mansions and the like with them. They operate out of a single story building about the size of a small dental practice.....Not only that but the office is shared by other .orgs, mostly promoting Jewish issues.

The state/local level is where the fight is now anyway and it will be nice to have the fucking NRA out of the way as they were more of a hindrance than a help.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:13:01 AM EDT

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There is a lot of propaganda surrounding this issue.

If the leaders of the NRA cared about its mission, they would understand the distraction they have become and step aside in order to save the organization.

Or they can continue to hold onto the sinking ship for their own financial well-being. Maybe they believe their the only ones who can fix the problem, but that’s giving them a huge benefit of the doubt, and their still wrong.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:16:14 AM EDT

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So much this.We got dick from them for the 2A.

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They did it to themselves

So much this.We got dick from them for the 2A.

100% true

It is the 2nd Amendment, not the change as you wish amendment. It is time to standup, resist, and stop complying with tyranny. Honestly, they cowered over an antifa riot disguised as a Trump riot, and it wasn't really a riot. The only power they have is gifted. Christmas is over.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:19:46 AM EDT

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We must send more money! Wayne might run out of suits, and since they're moving, he's gonna need a new mansion.

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And don't forget the moving expenses. You don't expect Wayne to fly economy, do you?

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:20:47 AM EDT

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What is the consensus here - who do we support in lieu of NRA.. 2AF? GOA?

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:21:09 AM EDT

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I stopped buying Wayne's suits a few years ago. I did donate to GOA a couple of days ago again instead.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:33:00 AM EDT

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It was no accident, NRA was infiltrated with commies who broke it down like a shotgun and dry fucked the organization on purpose.

This was a designed corruption of a civil rights organization by government communist powers. It has CIA-style overthrow fingerprints all over it.

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That’s pretty handy to see this as grand conspiracy by the CIA and commies and who the fuck knows what else. I wonder why people just don’t accept corruption and incompetence when it is so obvious.

Fuck the NRA. If I didn’t have to be a member in order to belong to my local gun range, I wouldn’t have anything to do with it.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:36:23 AM EDT

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NRA needs to die.

Quit giving the drug addict drugs.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:41:51 AM EDT

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The state/local level is where the fight is now anyway and it will be nice to have the fucking NRA out of the way as they were more of a hindrance than a help.

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This.
They backed people here who continually killed pro gun bills.

Posted: 1/22/2021 8:58:58 AM EDT

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Good riddance if you ask me....

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:16:48 AM EDT

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The nra also wanted all pistols in the NFA, but the politicians thought that went to far.

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Was pretty bad and telling even the pols knew it was unconstitutional.

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:27:39 AM EDT

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FWLP and his toadies

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:33:48 AM EDT

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Dead to me.

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:38:28 AM EDT

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Firearms Policy Coalition is where it’s at.

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:40:44 AM EDT

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The carcass of the NRA has already been picked clean.
I suspect Wayne and a bunch of other vultures will fly away rich.

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:42:26 AM EDT

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Told them not to contact me anymore

Posted: 1/22/2021 9:48:10 AM EDT

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Is there any hope of getting the current leadership to step aside in the effort to save the organization or do they intend to sink the ship on the way out the door?

Posted: 1/22/2021 10:03:11 AM EDT

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Is there any hope of getting the current leadership to step aside in the effort to save the organization or do they intend to sink the ship on the way out the door?

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Wayne has a death grip around the NRA's throat. Right now he's essentially using NRA funds to mount his legal defense against NY. Also, I'm guessing there are *lots* of financial bodies buried in the NRA's books. If he steps aside the new leadership will certainly order a new and thorough audit of those books, which is the last thing in Wayne's interest.

So the answer to your question is most likely "no". Wayne's there until he either croaks or he's frog marched out on criminal charges.

Posted: 1/22/2021 10:03:57 AM EDT

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They did it to themselves

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THEY did it to US. The executives and board members made their money and will be fine. We are left with no voice in the national gun debate.

GOA and SAF are good pro-2A organizations, but they don't carry the clout NRA once did.

Posted: 1/22/2021 10:54:40 AM EDT

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NRA life member. FPC/FPF has been getting all my money the last few years. They're really fighting a lot of small battles as well as the big ones. I high recommend everyone get behind them.