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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:33:13 PM EDT
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FWIW you can't declare war when you're already at war.

Sorry, dude.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:33:24 PM EDT
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So how will the MSM twist this to say "Trump declares war on NK"..........?
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But I am sure plenty of talking heads and democrats will find themselves saying sympathetic things about a communist enemy, with looming midterm elections.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:33:40 PM EDT
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It's probably a safe bet people know their submarine capability and monitor it carefully.  If I was kim I'd ask for a pile of money and immunity and kim kardashian as a trade for control of the north and let it collapse like e germany.

There is no situation for him where he and his dynasty aren't wiped out.  unless he takes the kardashian option.
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Could we just send all the Kardashians over there? It would be a matter of days that the entire NK culture would be ruined for 100s of years and Rocket Man would be begging Trump and agreeing to do anything if we take them back.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:35:45 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:35:58 PM EDT
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Could we just send all the Kardashians over there? It would be a matter of days that the entire NK culture would be ruined for 100s of years and Rocket Man would be begging Trump and agreeing to do anything if we take them back.
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No shit, germany did this to russia with lenin in the first world war and they are still fucked up over it.  take that fucker psy (gangam style), a shit ton of porno on blast on every channel, and food and it could work..

Seriously, hopefully some smart fuckers have a plan for what to do with all those mouths, and have a fix in with china.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:36:24 PM EDT
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Crisco.  Probably butter flavored.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:37:59 PM EDT
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How many artillery pieces are pointed at Seoul again?

How many nukes are they supposed to have?

Christ what a shit show
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None can be used though, its suicide. At this point in our history we have the means of killing Kim Jung Un and most of his ministers without needing to resort to nukes. We just lack the provocation to do it. Meanwhile, while Kim has the ability to fuck up South Korea, if he so much as harms the hair of a single ROK citizen or America he provides the provocation Trump and Mattis are waiting for to attack. Right now we're at an impasse. Neither side actually wants to fight, but in order to get what each side wants diplomatically, they must constantly use increase rhetoric because rhetoric is the only weapon they can freely use.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:40:12 PM EDT
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Hit first:

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LoL, parked wingtip to wingtip, one cluster bomb would destroy all of them.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:41:28 PM EDT
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I have serious doubts about an F-4s ability to escape a 330kt blast...that's a massive bomb. Yikes.
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Toss-bombing with a full AB getaway.  Still would be plenty dicey.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:42:19 PM EDT
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I understand they have VERY restricted use in the US. Basically a airshow plane with no commercial use.

Drop zone operators would be all over them otherwise
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I would actually love to own one of those and turn it into a flying winnebago. I would even consider putting it on floats and making it an amphibian.

be costly to run though....
I understand they have VERY restricted use in the US. Basically a airshow plane with no commercial use.

Drop zone operators would be all over them otherwise
Polish PZL built AN2's are exempt from experimental classification, and may be operated under Part 91.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:44:34 PM EDT
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Pentagon responds calmly, as expected:

"If North Korea does not stop their provocative actions, you know, we will make sure that we provide options to the President to deal with North Korea," Pentagon spokesman Colonel Robert Manning told reporters.
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:46:24 PM EDT
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Pentagon responds calmly, as expected:



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Will Trump respond as calmly on Twitter?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:49:13 PM EDT
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Probably not...
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:52:43 PM EDT
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The Hornet shootdown by the Foxbat had zero to do with the capabilities of the Hornet. AIC did not alert them to the presence of an enemy fighter and their RWR would not register if an IR lock only was on their jet. It was a busy piece of airspace and the Foxbat did a good job getting that shot off. Its not like the division of Hornets knew he was out there and just got beat. AIC sucked and the Foxbat pilot did good, end of story.
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And there is no way to know that it won't happen again. We have low numbers of aircraft with questionable or non existent combat records. That is not the position to be in when picking a fight with proven aircraft, Soviet trash as they may be.
Not to even get started on how many missiles did not perform correctly or hit their target out of the ones fired in the last 30 years. An air campaign against anyone other than an Arab flying monkey models is not something we want to do.

Eta: Not saying that we would lose or even come close to losing, but the losses are probably going to be vastly higher that McNamara paper war gaming leads one to believe.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:52:54 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:53:19 PM EDT
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In the years and decades past, NK has shot down US airplanes, sunk ships, hacked to death US soldiers patrolling the DMZ and not a fucking thing ever happened. Not to mention how they shell SK territory, kidnap people from Japan, assassinate people in other countries, and blackmale the world. And the world and the USA kept paying them off like bitches.

So I'm not surprised that those commie fuckers are so bold.

We should burn that entire country to cinders just out of principal. I just hope that ROE is so bold, so unhinged, that 100% of US power and might is unleashed.
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Where do they get black males?

You must mean blackmail.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:54:21 PM EDT
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I dont understand why we wait, the longer we wait the bigger a problem they will be in the future. Stike now while their missle range and nuclear technology is limited. A surgical strike with stealth bomber/fighters can could easily wipe out their nuclear capabilities in a matter of minutes. left with cold ware ear technology they wouldnt stand a chance.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:54:31 PM EDT
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Just aim here.
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:56:13 PM EDT
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and after N Korea is beaten to a pulp then whatta gonna do with them?

pity S Korea if they get folded back in will be like the E German contamination of W Germany....only a million times worse....
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:56:22 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:57:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 12:58:53 PM EDT
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Technically, it was the UN and not the US that declared war on 27 June, 1950. We just supplied 85% of the muscle for the conflict.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:00:34 PM EDT
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Ugh, that would be unwise of rocket boy.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:00:51 PM EDT
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and after N Korea is beaten to a pulp then whatta gonna do with them?

pity S Korea if they get folded back in will be like the E German contamination of W Germany....only a million times worse....
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Send in their favorite American to be the interim leader?

Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:01:49 PM EDT
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I thought this was joke......LOL.  Guess not.  
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:04:20 PM EDT
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Yak-18?  
LOL
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Had to look that one up.

Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:04:23 PM EDT
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My son may become an ACE
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:07:49 PM EDT
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If we don't kill them all we will have to feed them all.  
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:08:08 PM EDT
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I dont understand why we wait, the longer we wait the bigger a problem they will be in the future. Stike now while their missle range and nuclear technology is limited. A surgical strike with stealth bomber/fighters can could easily wipe out their nuclear capabilities in a matter of minutes. left with cold ware ear technology they wouldnt stand a chance.
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Because Trump doesn't have the political capital to just launch unilaterial preemptive strike against NK that will most certainly end up killing tens of thousands of our allies just because he lacks patience. North Korea has always held strategic weapons that prevented that sort of war from happening, now its a bit stronger since they have nukes but previously they could have launched an invasion of SK too, hit Japan with SCUDs, used their vast stockpike of chemical and biological weapons.

What Trump is doing isn't an attempt to start a war. He's sinking North Korea by destroying its economy through sanctions and embargoes, through (some might doubt it, but all current indications are that the PRC is on board). But that's going to take years before the full effect happens, in the mean time the only real way the North Koreans can react that isn't capitulation or suicide is to saber rattle. While saber rattling makes people like Clinton and Obama to shit themselves and fold, Trump seems to enjoy it, helped that he has some of the greatest military minds of the time working in the White House briefing him, say what you will about them politically but Mattis, Kelly, McMaster, and Dunford are all rock solid combat leaders who are all known for being a bit more than crayon eaters. So Trump knows full well what NK can do and what they can't. They can't start the war, if they do while they can hurt us they all commit suicide, and contrary to how most people view the North Koreans suicide is not their thing, they want to survive.

Get used to this sort of saber rattling on both sides, its going to be the new normal for not only US-DPRK relations, but also US-Russian relations too. And soon Trump is going to do the same thing he's doing to NK to Iran, and the rhetoric is going to be just as aggressive. Because that's how negotiations in geopolitics work when faggots from the US State Dept 7th floor aren't running shit anymore.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:08:22 PM EDT
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Haven't had one since Vietnam, right?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:10:16 PM EDT
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[Broken Video] ?? William Shatner "Sings" 'Rocket Man' (1978) - BEST QUALITY!
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:11:18 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:12:08 PM EDT
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The first time you blow someone away is not an insignificant event. That said, there are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot. There are hunters and there are victims. By your discipline, cunning, obedience and alertness, you will decide if you are a hunter or a victim. It’s really a hell of a lot of fun. You’re gonna have a blast out here!

  James Mattis
Addressing a gathering of 200 Marines in al Asad, as quoted in the Armed Forces Journal article "Fiasco", published on August 1, 2006.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:13:56 PM EDT
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.....you're right. It's hard after decades of decline to MAGA all the time.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:15:57 PM EDT
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Is the NK air force ready for this task?
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My mental image is more this;
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:16:02 PM EDT
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And if that was to happen, While we are trying to recover and survive (and all our 1st responders are doing their thing) I'm sure another cowardly group, often in the news will not hesitate to take advantage and attack in many cites as well..
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DOJ?  
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:19:11 PM EDT
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Honestly, if it kicks off, why couldnt we just cruise missile and carpet bomb every single military base, station, launchpad, mortar site etc at the exact same time.  Knock out basically everything in one quick volley before the first report even comes in, and leave them basically optionless?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:19:21 PM EDT
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It's probably a safe bet people know their submarine capability and monitor it carefully.  If I was kim I'd ask for a pile of money and immunity and kim kardashian as a trade for control of the north and let it collapse like e germany.

There is no situation for him where he and his dynasty aren't wiped out.  unless he takes the kardashian option.
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We came close to that deal, but they wanted Kendall Jenner instead and we refused.  
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:20:47 PM EDT
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In the years and decades past, NK has shot down US airplanes, sunk ships, hacked to death US soldiers patrolling the DMZ and not a fucking thing ever happened. Not to mention how they shell SK territory, kidnap people from Japan, assassinate people in other countries, and blackmale the world. And the world and the USA kept paying them off like bitches.

So I'm not surprised that those commie fuckers are so bold.

We should burn that entire country to cinders just out of principal. I just hope that ROE is so bold, so unhinged, that 100% of US power and might is unleashed.
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Do you mean blackmail?  Or is this some racist term for waving a very large penis at someone?
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:22:03 PM EDT
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I have serious doubts about an F-4s ability to escape a 330kt blast...that's a massive bomb. Yikes.
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 Idiot's loop and Mach 2 getaway.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:23:03 PM EDT
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Is the NK air force ready for this task?
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Can our plan as fly slow enough to engage without stalling? (Kidding)
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:25:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:26:22 PM EDT
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I can't help but wonder how many phone books the average NK pilot has to sit on to see out the window....
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Hahaha that's great
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:28:25 PM EDT
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Haven't had one since Vietnam, right?
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He just finished 2 flug.  They're sending him right to 4 flug 
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:29:44 PM EDT
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Honestly, if it kicks off, why couldnt we just cruise missile and carpet bomb every single military base, station, launchpad, mortar site etc at the exact same time.  Knock out basically everything in one quick volley before the first report even comes in, and leave them basically optionless?  
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We've got a lot of assets but nowhere near enough to wipe everything out in one volley.  We're talking about months of 24/7 air operations to level everything.  As it sits, they really don't have many options right now.  Starting a conflict just leads to their inevitable demise.  Once they start shooting we begin to grind them away.  If they choose to use a nuclear device we will make them disappear even faster.
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If I were a betting man I'd say the batting order over there is one of the most carefully planned parts of us military doctrine.  I hope this doesn't pop off but if it does, there is a plan for the war.  Hopefully someone has a plan for what to do after the shooting is over.
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China, it's yours, bye.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:33:01 PM EDT
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China, it's yours, bye.
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shit for like $358 in ramen noodle we could feed them all for a year..  
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:33:30 PM EDT
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Says who? Fuck'em, they should have put a bullet in his skull.
Link Posted: 9/25/2017 1:37:37 PM EDT
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He just finished 2 flug.  They're sending him right to 4 flug 
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Haven't had one since Vietnam, right?
He just finished 2 flug.  They're sending him right to 4 flug 
I've seen your posts about him can you elaborate more about what he flies, past kills, etc?

Oh and what is a flug?

Prayers he goes over there and is the one that levels the ministers.
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