[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Mormons - explain this to me (Page 2 of 11)
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. |
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You really believe we have a complete genetic profile on all indigenous peoples of South America? You tell me which one of those statements is more outrageous? Quoted:
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I was reading about the Mormon religion, and had a question. Founded by Joseph Smith, the faith drew its first converts while Smith was dictating the text of The Book of Mormon from golden plates which had reformed Egyptian writing on them which he said he found buried after being directed to their location by the Angel Moroni. The book described itself as a chronicle of early indigenous peoples of the Americas, known as the Nephites, portraying them as believing Israelites, who had a belief in Christ many hundred years before his birth. According to The Book of Mormon, the Nephites are one of four groups (including the Lamanites, Jaredites, and Mulekites) which settled in the ancient Americas. The Nephites are described as a group of people that descended from or were associated with Nephi, the son of the prophet Lehi, who left Jerusalem at the urging of God c. 600 BC and traveled with his family to the Western Hemisphere, arriving in the Americas c. 589 BC. Does this mean that Nephites became Native Americans, or what is supposed to have happened to these people? The Nephites weren't the only group to find the Americas even in the Book of Mormon itself. There was a much earlier group called the Jaredites. I believe that these people were probably Asiatic and provide most of the ancestry for the Native Americans. Somewhere we'll eventually find Israeli DNA in group native to the Americas. It talks about a remnant of the Nephite linage will survive but it doesn't say that all native peoples on this continent are descendants. Part of the curse is that they wouldn't thrive. Really? You seriously believe that any identifiable "indigenous" native group hasn't already been tested? You really believe we have a complete genetic profile on all indigenous peoples of South America? You tell me which one of those statements is more outrageous? I've read here that a lot of native Americans refuse to be tested. No idea what the truth is. |
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. 
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I'm LDS and so is a large portion of the area I live in. I don't know of anyone here that is anti Trump. Quoted:
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I guess I can pose this question here: Why do Mormons seem to hate Trump so much, and is it because his wife has sexy pics on the interwebs? (I know I live in Utah so I should know but I try not to ask people around me the things I would ask on arfcom)  I'm LDS and so is a large portion of the area I live in. I don't know of anyone here that is anti Trump. Same tone I'm getting from the LDS community in western Nevada. |
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Wat-Meme-Tumblr-02.jpg (Treading very carefully here, as I mean no offense whatsoever) Regarding the text in red: That belief, although not universal, is not uncommon among those who are not LDS. There is (or appears to be) a 'secretive' component that makes many people uncomfortable, which only perpetuates that belief IMO Once again, I'm NOT casting stones. |
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? I dunno. How do Jews, Christians, and Muslims deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepancies in the story of Adam and Eve? So you are saying it is all made up fiction? |
| Wow, this thread has gone down some strange paths. When I posted it, it is because I have a Mormon friend that I was having a discussion with and he couldn't answer the question that I asked. I was hoping some other Mormons might have a clue. I am not Mormon or anti-Mormon, but trying to understand what they believe and how it might play into what is known/proven so far. They seem like nice folk, but I have to admit that any scientific proof doesn't really support their beliefs. |
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Quoted: (Treading very carefully here, as I mean no offense whatsoever) Regarding the text in red: That belief, although not universal, is not uncommon among those who are not LDS. There is (or appears to be) a 'secretive' component that makes many people uncomfortable, which only perpetuates that belief IMO Once again, I'm NOT casting stones. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. http://memesvault.com/wp-content/uploads/Wat-Meme-Tumblr-02.jpg (Treading very carefully here, as I mean no offense whatsoever) Regarding the text in red: That belief, although not universal, is not uncommon among those who are not LDS. There is (or appears to be) a 'secretive' component that makes many people uncomfortable, which only perpetuates that belief IMO Once again, I'm NOT casting stones. I grew up several of my best friends were Mormons. They ran the banks in my small home town. I knew the ones that were well off. All nice people. I finally got meet some of the ones who didn't make bank through my "rich" friends. Separate and not equal described what I saw in my teen years. They were all nice people, they all seemed to get along. But if you didn't have rent houses, work as bank VP or in the financial industry, you went to a different church service. Your kids, while friends with, did not regularly interact with the lower class. Now this is a sample of one. Not necessarily representative of a whole religion. But did include other small towns in the area, and the Church in the city they all attended. The Mormons I have known all lived pretty clean lives. Decent people. I disagree with their theology. They disagree with mine. Oh well. I will say that as we transitioned to adults, when they tried to convert me and I said NO. Well that was the very last time I heard from 99% of them. There is one older guy that will still talk to me if he sees me. This was all over 30 years ago. |
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Had several LDS friends in high school. Also shot with a couple during trap league. Honestly some of the nicest people I've ever met. They were willing to discuss their beliefs in a coherent manner.
We had an LDS intern on rotation for 6 weeks. He LOVED the "Magic" fantasy card game, to the point of playing in tournaments and wagering money on it. I asked him if this was contrary to the tenements of his church. His response was, "It's a game of skill, not chance."
Another fellow would go to the bar with you, but wouldn't directly purchase alcohol. He would gladly drink your second beer or the remainder if you had a half-glass left. We need all the friendly, conservative, pro-2A folks we can get, even if they don't dance at parties with the light-shade on their heads at 3AM. 
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? I am guessing here but I suspect the same way Catholics use birth control. They just ignore that bit. |
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Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. The "rich" I know who are LDS are self-made entrepreneurs... Most LDS leadership is voluntary... Everyone goes to the same LDS worship service... Rich, poor, well-connected, everyone... |
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Quoted: I was reading about the Mormon religion, and had a question. Founded by Joseph Smith, the faith drew its first converts while Smith was dictating the text of The Book of Mormon from golden plates which had reformed Egyptian writing on them which he said he found buried after being directed to their location by the Angel Moroni. The book described itself as a chronicle of early indigenous peoples of the Americas, known as the Nephites, portraying them as believing Israelites, who had a belief in Christ many hundred years before his birth. According to The Book of Mormon, the Nephites are one of four groups (including the Lamanites, Jaredites, and Mulekites) which settled in the ancient Americas. The Nephites are described as a group of people that descended from or were associated with Nephi, the son of the prophet Lehi, who left Jerusalem at the urging of God c. 600 BC and traveled with his family to the Western Hemisphere, arriving in the Americas c. 589 BC. Does this mean that Nephites became Native Americans, or what is supposed to have happened to these people? I can only speak for myself, but as a kid who grew up in the LDS church in the late 1980s/early 1990s, yes, this is what we were taught. Or, to put it more accurately, the Lamanites became the Native Americans of today, since the Nephites were wiped out in a major genocidal war with the Lamanites in about 400 AD. (The Lamanites and Nephites were related to each other, since Nephi was Laman's brother.) I remember being taught that the Jaredites were another group of people from the Middle East who settled in America, but that they were totally wiped out by God's wrath before Nephi and his family arrived in America. I can't remember much about the Mulekites, but a quick Google search shows that they were assimilated into Nephite society (and then presumably also wiped out in the big war with the Lamanites). But yes, this is what I was taught, that today's Native Americans are descended from ancient Israelites who traveled to America in different waves hundreds of years before Christ. I don't know if the Church still stresses this connection with the Native Americans of today as much as they did when I was a kid. Edited for clarity. |
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Quoted: For what it's worth, when the Smith crew came to Illinois... it is alleged that he and his bunch went across the river and stole livestock from my ancestors. That story has been passed down the family for generations. So, ya'll owe me some reparations. Says he, they came across some range cattle; no markings, no brands. Scraggly, ill kept beasts they were....Hardly worth the hide that held them together. Grandpa recalled that he, and others, collected the mangy beasts and herded them off to a safe haven where, he said, they were well looked after. Reparations denied. |
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My great great great grandpa Rufus Gentile Smith recollects it differently. Says he, they came across some range cattle; no markings, no brands. Scraggly, ill kept beasts they were....Hardly worth the hide that held them together. Grandpa recalled that he, and others, collected the mangy beasts and herded them off to a safe haven where, he said, they were well looked after. Reparations denied. Quoted:
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For what it's worth, when the Smith crew came to Illinois... it is alleged that he and his bunch went across the river and stole livestock from my ancestors. That story has been passed down the family for generations. So, ya'll owe me some reparations. Says he, they came across some range cattle; no markings, no brands. Scraggly, ill kept beasts they were....Hardly worth the hide that held them together. Grandpa recalled that he, and others, collected the mangy beasts and herded them off to a safe haven where, he said, they were well looked after. Reparations denied. It was actually chickens that were stolen. How much do I get per chicken? 
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yeah any idea that the LDS community is solidly anti-trump is akin to a poor student with good tread on his tires, that is, a bald faced lie. Quoted:
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I guess I can pose this question here: Why do Mormons seem to hate Trump so much, and is it because his wife has sexy pics on the interwebs? (I know I live in Utah so I should know but I try not to ask people around me the things I would ask on arfcom) I'm LDS and so is a large portion of the area I live in. I don't know of anyone here that is anti Trump. yeah any idea that the LDS community is solidly anti-trump is akin to a poor student with good tread on his tires, that is, a bald faced lie. Interesting. I know quite a few LDS in the Vegas area, and CO too. A good number of them really don't like him... even now that he's the nominee. I'm not trying to expand that to "all Mormons", but it does seem to be a trend. To a family, those folks were Cruz supporters, and remain staunchly anti-Trump. Been trying to figure this same idea out, too. I have no dog in any of these camps (I'm not pro/anti LDS, not pro/anti Trump). |
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Yup, good people. If there is a heaven, every one I met will be there. Quoted:
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I'm not Mormon but I like Mormons. Love Utah, been to Ensign Peak, was even in Salt Lake City this year during general conference. Mormons are good people. Yup, good people. If there is a heaven, every one I met will be there. I have many good friends that are mormon. As a group mormons are generally very good people but they have plenty of bad apples to. |
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Quoted: Here's the real question. Are Catholics better than Mormons? And go. There are 2 Mormon teenage boys in my neighborhood that are really polite and well mannered. Much different from the attitude of their peers around here. It's actually very refreshing to see someone is raising their boys to be good men. |
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Now you are switchign arguments but I'll address this ome too. I don't have any idea what creative process God used. It is entirely possible that he used evolution for everything including man. At some point we became human and the typical Christian creation story is simply a way of making that distinction. Quoted:
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Why use DNA at all? You guys don't trust it when it says we share DNA (and a common ancestor) with apes. We even have the fossil record and a bunch of other good objective evidence that man evolved, yet people reject it. The Mormon Church's official doctrine embraces a literal Biblical first-person Adam. Official church doctrine: All [men] who have inhabited the earth since Adam have taken bodies and become souls in like manner. It is held by some that Adam was not the first man upon this earth, and that the original human being was a development from lower orders of the animal creation. These, however, are the theories of men. The word of the Lord declares that Adam was "the first man of all men" (Moses 1:34), and we are therefore in duty bound to regard him as the primal parent of the race ... all men were created in the beginning after the image of God; and whether we take this to mean the spirit or the body, or both, it commits us to the same conclusion: Man began life as a human being, in the likeness of our heavenly Father. True it is that the body of man enters upon its career as a tiny germ or embryo, which becomes an infant, quickened at a certain stage by the spirit whose tabernacle it is, and the child, after being born, develops into a man. There is nothing in this, however, to indicate that the original man the first of our race, began life as anything less than a man, or less than the human germ or embryo that becomes a man. One also wonders if man shares DNA/physical features and a common ancestor with monkeys/apes. .............. and man is made in the likeness of "our heavenly father" .......................... does that mean what it sounds like it would mean .......... I don't even mean that as offensively as it likely comes off, but it's the logical conclusion of the reasoning being presented.
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? I dunno. How do Jews, Christians, and Muslims deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepancies in the story of Adam and Eve? In more orthodox forms of Christianity (Roman Catholicism, the Orthodox Catholic churches, traditional Anglicanism) the story of creation is viewed as to a large extent allegorical, among other parts of the scriptures. Biblical literalism is much more common in less orthodox offshoots, especially offshoots of the original Protestant churches. |
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I was reading about the Mormon religion, and had a question. <snip> Does this mean that Nephites became Native Americans, or what is supposed to have happened to these people? I do not believe in any of Mormonism's doctrines. But if you want to know what they "believe", then IM my friends Shane333 or juni4ling and they will explain what they believe. |
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I do not believe in any of Mormonism's doctrines. But if you want to know what they "believe", then IM my friends Shane333 or juni4ling and they will explain what they believe. Good advice. O_P is a good man. My respect for him, and the way he handles himself has grown exponentially through the years here at arfcom. If you are indeed sincere in learning more of LDS beliefs, Shane333 is a wealth of knowledge. I would also be happy to answer any questions. Thanks, O_P. |
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In more orthodox forms of Christianity (Roman Catholicism, the Orthodox Catholic churches, traditional Anglicanism) the story of creation is viewed as to a large extent allegorical, among other parts of the scriptures. Biblical literalism is much more common in less orthodox offshoots, especially offshoots of the original Protestant churches. Quoted:
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? I dunno. How do Jews, Christians, and Muslims deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepancies in the story of Adam and Eve? In more orthodox forms of Christianity (Roman Catholicism, the Orthodox Catholic churches, traditional Anglicanism) the story of creation is viewed as to a large extent allegorical, among other parts of the scriptures. Biblical literalism is much more common in less orthodox offshoots, especially offshoots of the original Protestant churches. You can't honestly account for original sin with a metaphorical "Fall of Man". If Creation is up for being metaphorical/"allegorical" now, then the Fall of Man is up for being metaphorical. There is no original sin without a literal Fall of Man. There is no sacrifice if there was no literal Fall of Man. That's not even getting into supposed morality of people being responsible for another's "sin". |
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Interesting. I know quite a few LDS in the Vegas area, and CO too. A good number of them really don't like him... even now that he's the nominee. I'm not trying to expand that to "all Mormons", but it does seem to be a trend. To a family, those folks were Cruz supporters, and remain staunchly anti-Trump. Been trying to figure this same idea out, too. I have no dog in any of these camps (I'm not pro/anti LDS, not pro/anti Trump). Quoted:
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I guess I can pose this question here: Why do Mormons seem to hate Trump so much, and is it because his wife has sexy pics on the interwebs? (I know I live in Utah so I should know but I try not to ask people around me the things I would ask on arfcom) I'm LDS and so is a large portion of the area I live in. I don't know of anyone here that is anti Trump. yeah any idea that the LDS community is solidly anti-trump is akin to a poor student with good tread on his tires, that is, a bald faced lie. Interesting. I know quite a few LDS in the Vegas area, and CO too. A good number of them really don't like him... even now that he's the nominee. I'm not trying to expand that to "all Mormons", but it does seem to be a trend. To a family, those folks were Cruz supporters, and remain staunchly anti-Trump. Been trying to figure this same idea out, too. I have no dog in any of these camps (I'm not pro/anti LDS, not pro/anti Trump). Some of my family are LDS. From what I have seen of family and a handful of others, they don't like Trump and love Romney. I think they blindly follow Romney and don't like Trump because Romney ' opinion of him. |
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Same tone I'm getting from the LDS community in western Nevada. Quoted:
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I guess I can pose this question here: Why do Mormons seem to hate Trump so much, and is it because his wife has sexy pics on the interwebs? (I know I live in Utah so I should know but I try not to ask people around me the things I would ask on arfcom) I'm LDS and so is a large portion of the area I live in. I don't know of anyone here that is anti Trump. Same tone I'm getting from the LDS community in western Nevada. Utah Mormons hate him. Cause he's "rude" and his wife is unrepressed. you should be aware that Utah mormons are largely a bunch of stuck up a-holes compared to normal mormons in other places. They're a little overly righteous here. Normal Mormons in Idaho and other non-utah-county places LOVE Trump |
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mental gymnastics. |
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Another question: How does one become an Elder, and what does being one entail? One first has the aaronic priesthood. Then you have an interview with your bishop and stake president (where there are those, otherwise its branch president, district president, and mission president). Be a good fella and voila, you are an elder. Your duties generally entail snoring in sacrament meeting, forgetting to prepare your sunday school lesson drive around the deacons to collect fast offerings and once a month go home teaching. |
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Quoted: Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. |
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Funny, most of the people I consider close friends are LDS, and I regularly attend their church as someone who does *not* subscribe some of the most strict tenets of LDS faith. To a person they have treated me with kindness and respect, without being given anything but the same in return. Take that for what it's worth, but know it's true. Quoted:
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. They are just sucking you in to get you to sign your assets over to the church when you die. It's a tarp!!! |
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The Book of Mormon never says that the Nephites/Lamanites were the only people to inhabit the continent. There is a pretty good article on the matter on lds.org
https://www.lds.org/topics/book-of-mormon-and-dna-studies?lang=eng |
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When were the magic underpants developed? This intrigues me because I am willing to convert for comfort and support. They are supposedly bulletproof too, none of the Mormons I know have ever let me shoot them to test the theory. Not only are my underwear NOT bullet proof, they catch fire just fine while welding. Not magic, just a reminder. |
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I love members of the LDS church. Great folks-patriotic, family-oriented, hard working, support the military and most are very pro-2A. Despite what one may read, they suffer from the same problems raising children in this fucked up society as everyone else, and they seem to handle it pretty well. Their kids seem to come back into the fold fairly quickly after going through that "rebellious" stage.
The fact that they believe in being self-sufficient in a crises earns them extra points for being upright, God-fearing Americans. I enjoy having these good people as my neighbors and fellow members of the community in which I live, and I especially love that they're socially conservative. It drives the leftard moonbats from the "bench" here in Boise out of their fucking minds HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! I'm right where I want to be. Whatever theological differences we may have is between them and God, and none of my damned business. |
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I'm sure somebody more studious, devout, whatever than I am will chime in, but the short answer to your question is yes. In the Book of Mormon the Lamanites essentially wipe out the Nephites. The Book of Mormon ends around 400AD and it is a commonly held belief amongst Mormons that Native Americans are descendents from the Lamanites. Having said that, I think I've read that genetic research has disproven that a bit and claims Native Americans are not of Middle Eastern descent (i.e. Israelites). Interesting. How do mormon's deal with the inconvenient genetic research discrepencies? Mormonism is a social covenant that uses religion as an excuse to control every aspect of people's lives. It's great if you're rich and high up in the church, it sucks if you're on the lower rungs of society--just like any good cult. They are just sucking you in to get you to sign your assets over to the church when you die. It's a tarp!!! Why lie? |
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