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Posted: 1/9/2006 7:29:33 AM EDT

[#1]

These things make me so fucking mad I just don't even know what to say other than KILL HIM!

I would even be willing to pay for the bullet!

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:35:53 AM EDT

[#2]

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We just had a similar thing happen here in Massachusetts. I hope this isn't going to become a criminal epidemic.

Woman Raped in Front of Son

Dateline: Plymouth, Mass. - 12/21/2005

Boston Globe
By Raja Mishra and John R. Ellement, Globe Staff | December 21, 2005

PLYMOUTH-- Last Saturday evening, as holiday shoppers bustled about in the parking lot of a Framingham Wal-Mart, a woman and her toddler strolled to their car.

Suddenly, authorities say, Evandro S. Doirado struck.

With 13-inch knife in hand, authorities say, he pounced on them, forcing the pair into her car.

Within minutes, Doirado forced the woman to drive to an adjacent parking lot and sexually assaulted her in the car in front of her 2-year-old son, authorities said.

They then drove to a seaside Plymouth motel room where he repeatedly raped her while her son cowered at the bedside, authorities said.

Her torment ended only after Doirado took her to buy beer at a nearby liquor store Monday. She mouthed ''help me" to a customer, then mouthed the name of the motel to a store clerk, who called police, authorities said.

Doirado, 28, of Framingham, was arraigned yesterday in Plymouth District Court on numerous rape and assault charges, and is being held without bail. At a court hearing scheduled for Friday, prosecutors plan to ask a judge to hold him for 60 days without bail because they consider Doirado a public danger.

''This is random; they didn't know each other," said Plymouth District Attorney Timothy J. Cruz. ''The complete randomness, that's what's scary. It could have happened to anyone."

He added: ''When you do this with a child in the room, you are an evil person. There's no way around it."

The woman and her child did not suffer other serious physical harm, but are psychologically traumatized, Plymouth police said.

Authorities praised the woman's quick thinking in the liquor store.

''Obviously, the woman did a tremendous job in saving her own life and her child's life," Cruz said. ''There's really no rhyme or reason for acts like this."

The attack, said authorities, began on Saturday night in the parking lot of the Wal-Mart. Doirado had wandered there, Framingham police say, after he attacked a man.

At about 8:30 p.m., Doirado ''was involved in a drug deal with another individual," said Lieutenant Vincent C. Alfano. ''An altercation ensued, and he ended up stabbing that individual."

Alfano identified the stabbing victim as Roberto Cornejo, 34, of Natick, who was not seriously injured. Doirado stole Cornejo's car, then headed to Wal-Mart about 9 p.m., Alfano said.

''He randomly picked a victim who was a 25-year-old female who he saw putting her 2-year-old son into her car," Alfano said. ''This was random. He did not know her."

Alfano added that Framingham police also plan to file charges against Doirado for the stabbing.

With the woman at the wheel, they drove to an adjacent apartment complex parking lot where there were fewer people and less lighting, then raped her, according to court documents. Her child sat there, looking on, authorities said.
The woman and her child were not identified by police because she is the victim of an alleged sexual offense.

They drove on to Natick, where Doirado raped her again, according to court documents. He also forced her to withdraw money from an automated teller machine, police said.

They stopped at a McDonald's in Hanover and then drove to the 66-room Pilgrim Sands Motel in Plymouth, where a clerk at the front desk interviewed yesterday said the staff there did not notice anything unusual.

In Framingham, Doirado's father and the woman's family filed separate missing persons reports with police late Saturday and early Sunday morning. At that time, police did not connect the two reports, Alfano said.

Inside the motel, the woman's misery continued.

Doirado allegedly threatened to stab the woman and her son to death if they made loud noises. The man intermittently raped her all day Sunday, said authorities. He would cover himself with a bed sheet as he assaulted her, according to court documents.

The little boy tried to curl up with his mother during one rape, police said. Doirado threatened to kill him, prompting the mother to quickly move her son to the other bed in the room.

On Monday at about 6 p.m., they went to Bradford's Liquors just over a mile from the hotel. Lacking identification, they were denied alcohol during their first visit, said store employees. They returned three hours later, Doirado standing at the entrance as the woman tried to buy him beer.

She quietly asked a customer for help, who then told a woman working the cash register of the plea, said Maryanne Heslin, the store's owner. The woman mouthed ''help me" and ''Pilgrim Sands" to the same clerk, Heslin said.

As the car pulled away, the clerk and another worker jotted down the license plate and called police, who intercepted the car at the motel, where Doirado was arrested. He has been charged with assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, two counts of aggravated rape, two counts of threat to commit crime, kidnapping of a child, and armed kidnapping with sexual assault.

Framingham police and Plymouth prosecutors were not familiar with Doirado. His name did not turn up in sex-offender databases or other court records, and no prior offenses were mentioned in court yesterday.

Jesus...why even waste time or money on a trial for this guy....drag him out behind the courthouse, and put a bullet in his head. Period.

This happened one town over from my hometown.

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:42:18 AM EDT

[#3]

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Also arent those tear-drop tattoos at the corner of his eye indicative of previous time served?

You are Correct SIR!

I get first dibs on stomping on this guys head!

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:43:49 AM EDT

[#4]

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These things make me so fucking mad I just don't even know what to say other than KILL HIM! I would even be willing to pay for the bullet!

This is one of those deals where I would really like to see citizens given the oppertunity to take real-life rifle training. Wait till you have a bunch of them built up. Take them out to a fenced 600yd enclosure, and let people pay $100 to target one and shoot till he's dead or they run out of rounds. Keep taking money till they are all dead.

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:46:25 AM EDT

[#5]

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Also arent those tear-drop tattoos at the corner of his eye indicative of previous time served?

You are Correct SIR!

I get first dibs on stomping on this guys head!

Its people that he killed

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:49:45 AM EDT

[#6]

The time for us to take the law into our own hands is rapidly approaching.

When the gov't fails to take it upon themselves to adequately protect the country and its citizenry then it falls to us.

Posted: 1/9/2006 7:52:51 AM EDT

[#7]

Here's my vision for a better tommorrow ,

10 feet tall concrete wall ,topped by 5 feet of razorwire.

Every 100 feet ,a reinforced tower with gun ports .

100 feet ahead of this wall ,
SCUMBAGS like this should be slowly put to death by
impalement.

Their rotting corpses should be left up as a warning,
and pictures of this scene should be shown on posters all over Mexico,
with the caption "Thinking about a trip to America "?
Actually ,the captions meaningless ,Homeland Security statistics say that
less than 35% of illegals can read their own language.

As a side note ,my tower will have
" I Love beltfeds" and
"happiness is a warm gun"
written on it.In ENGLISH .

With a lot of kill markers stamped on it.

Now I need to come up with a humorous stampable image of a wetback ...

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:12:05 AM EDT

[#8]

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Also arent those tear-drop tattoos at the corner of his eye indicative of previous time served?

You are Correct SIR!

I get first dibs on stomping on this guys head!

Its people that he killed

they mean different things in different places at different times.

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:16:09 AM EDT

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:19:36 AM EDT

[#10]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

I don't care who you are...that's funny right there.

Yep, that poor lady and her child were the victims of America's success.

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:21:35 AM EDT

[#11]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

I don't care who you are...that's funny right there.

Yep, that poor lady and her child were the victims of America's success.

I wasn't saying it was the reason... I was throwing up an equally stupid explanation...

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:24:54 AM EDT

[#12]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an ~~illegal~~ undocumented worker.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

Just more reason to mine and machine gun the border.....

Fixed it for ya.

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:36:08 AM EDT

[#13]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems and President Bush want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

Fixed it for you

Posted: 1/9/2006 8:58:29 AM EDT

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www.scrapbookpages.com/Natzweiler/Photos/DSC_0040_0039.jpg

+1

Reliable, reusable, and environmental friendly.

Plus, watching those hanging feet kick and twitch is a good lesson for other dirtbags, especially if the justice is timely to the crime. The idea that it takes 10+ years to execute is what is killing the deterrent, not the punishment - If I punish my kid for something they did wrong a year ago, they don't connect the two events, whereas if it's timely, they understand. Criminals are no different. Justice has to be quick, impartial, and severe when restitution to the victim is not possible (like rape, murder, ...). It used to be that if justice wasn't quick enough, that the gov (sheriff) had to worry about people demanding it or taking it. It used to be that the court system existed to ensure the accused had a fair trial - not to protect them from a fair trial.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:23:54 AM EDT

[#15]

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It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

Boy o boy!

He didn't just drink the kool-aid!

He went back for seconds!!!

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:28:21 AM EDT

[#16]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

Uhh, its always the bleeding heart libs, dems and socialists who are welcoming the illegals, err undocumented workers (Thanks Bubblehead!) in, and decrying groups like the Minutemen who want to keep them out.

And just to go the other way...its the stinking corrupt mexican businesses who don't pay their workers shit, and a shitty government and police force that is making so that these scumbags want to come across the border...

And blaming US business for the ~~illegal~~ undocumented problem is stupider than anything....

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:30:12 AM EDT

[#17]

Civilization is fucked as a whole.

I say shoot him. Nothing fancy, mean, etc. Just a headshot with a 12 gauge, 00 buck.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:30:56 AM EDT

[#18]

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Concealed Carry & Training WORK!

too bad this woman didn't have either.

Nope cant do this.....
Rape does NOT justify a lethal shot to the melon.
She would have to turn the tides on him and rape him back.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:41:30 AM EDT

[#19]

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Concealed Carry & Training WORK!

too bad this woman didn't have either.

Nope cant do this.....
Rape does NOT justify a lethal shot to the melon.
She would have to turn the tides on him and rape him back.

Huh? I can't say there isn't one out there but I have not yet seen a definition of lawful use of deadly force that did not include rape as a valid reason for it's use. You saying Utah doesn't allow DF in the case of a rape?

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:42:17 AM EDT

[#20]

I believe the tear dropen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo Means he has killed someone.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:49:56 AM EDT

[#21]

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I believe the tear dropen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo Means he has killed someone.

among other things. Some people get them for every year locked up. Some people get them for family or fellow gang member who has died while locked up. Some get them for family/gang member who died, even while they are not locked up.

Its like the spider web on the elbow. Some people get it because they are tangled up in a drug addiction....some people get it in prison cause they are tangled up in the system.....some white people get it if they kill a minority. I dont know what the origins are though...

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:55:21 AM EDT

[#22]

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I believe the tear dropen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo Means he has killed someone.

Used to be the girlfriends would get a teardrop everytime their man served time.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:56:11 AM EDT

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border... You morons screaming "It's the libs fault" are about as fucking stupid as the people saying "It's Bush's fault"

Uhh, its always the bleeding heart libs, dems and socialists who are welcoming the illegals, err undocumented workers (Thanks Bubblehead!) in, and decrying groups like the Minutemen who want to keep them out.

And just to go the other way...its the stinking corrupt mexican businesses who don't pay their workers shit, and a shitty government and police force that is making so that these scumbags want to come across the border...

And blaming US business for the ~~illegal~~ undocumented problem is stupider than anything....

www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-3.html

www.worldlawdirect.com/article/1562/Bush_would_give_illegal_workers_new_rights.html

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:58:38 AM EDT

[#24]

A 4'x4' concrete box buried 10' in the ground, with a hole on top for dropping
spoiled, maggot infested food once a week, and a hole on the bottom for the toilet.

Once a month, water is poured down for its "shower".

And most conveniently, when it dies, the box will be it's tomb.

Posted: 1/9/2006 9:58:57 AM EDT

[#25]

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Nope cant do this.....
Rape does NOT justify a lethal shot to the melon.
She would have to turn the tides on him and rape him back.

Umm....I don't know where you are from, but defense from rape is usually considered a valid reason to use lethal force in the US.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:02:01 AM EDT

[#26]

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Concealed Carry & Training WORK!

too bad this woman didn't have either.

+1

Last time a woman told me that guns are bad, I posed a scenario like this to her. I'll be damned if I leave ALL personal protection duties on the police: sometimes, you don't have the time or capability to contact them; you need a split-second response.

I hope they get this guy and hang him by his balls before doing other much worse things.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:04:40 AM EDT

[#27]

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But..........I thought that in his "culture" it is permissible to rape women who are not accompanied by a husband,or don't have their face covered, because they are whores.

Or is that another of the turd world cultures we are being told,by the socialists that we must embrace as "multiculturalism" while "celebrating the diversity."

The mother with the children was prob "acting like she wanted it." So what's the problem ? An aztec warrior got what he needed to carry on the socialist struggle.

ahhh yes, lets all blame the race/nationality instead of the individual. its so much easier. as we all know white people are never involved in raping women.

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Her first child was born at 18, I'll bet the 'Daddy/Daddys' of both of them could give a shit less if she's alone at 10:30pm or not. The reality is that women sometimes have to be out and about with kids even after dark. However they should make sure they have the ability to effect a just punishment there on the scene rather than have to sit and cry on a bathroom floor.

you guys make a lot of assumptions, to the point where its disgusting.

no matter what the thread topic theres always assholes who seem to know everything, people who seem to be clairvoyant enough to pick out the subtle details us mere mortals cant. things like this guy was an illegal, the victim was a slut with a sordid past, any guy shot by the cops with a police record of any sort was a hardcore criminal trying to kill again, etc.

maybe you guys should shave your heads and go work for the bureau of pre-crimes, because you are all friggin superstars in that respect.

signed, a 6'2" latino who wasnt in idaho at the time.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:12:47 AM EDT

[#28]

I'm all for castration with a hot poker. They will all have to live with the horror of that night. He should have it shoved up his a** every day of the rest of his life.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:14:14 AM EDT

[#29]

"Buckwheats for Everyone !"

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:16:38 AM EDT

[#30]

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But..........I thought that in his "culture" it is permissible to rape women who are not accompanied by a husband,or don't have their face covered, because they are whores.

Or is that another of the turd world cultures we are being told,by the socialists that we must embrace as "multiculturalism" while "celebrating the diversity."

The mother with the children was prob "acting like she wanted it." So what's the problem ? An aztec warrior got what he needed to carry on the socialist struggle.

ahhh yes, lets all blame the race/nationality instead of the individual. its so much easier. as we all know white people are never involved in raping women.

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Her first child was born at 18, I'll bet the 'Daddy/Daddys' of both of them could give a shit less if she's alone at 10:30pm or not. The reality is that women sometimes have to be out and about with kids even after dark. However they should make sure they have the ability to effect a just punishment there on the scene rather than have to sit and cry on a bathroom floor.

you guys make a lot of assumptions, to the point where its disgusting.

no matter what the thread topic theres always assholes who seem to know everything, people who seem to be clairvoyant enough to pick out the subtle details us mere mortals cant. things like this guy was an illegal, the victim was a slut with a sordid past, any guy shot by the cops with a police record of any sort was a hardcore criminal trying to kill again, etc.

maybe you guys should shave your heads and go work for the bureau of pre-crimes, because you are all friggin superstars in that respect.

signed, a 6'2" latino who wasnt in idaho at the time.

UTAH.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:27:05 AM EDT

[#31]

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UTAH.

sorry for the mistake, but wasnt there either.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:29:49 AM EDT

[#32]

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But..........I thought that in his "culture" it is permissible to rape women who are not accompanied by a husband,or don't have their face covered, because they are whores.

Or is that another of the turd world cultures we are being told,by the socialists that we must embrace as "multiculturalism" while "celebrating the diversity."

The mother with the children was prob "acting like she wanted it." So what's the problem ? An aztec warrior got what he needed to carry on the socialist struggle.

ahhh yes, lets all blame the race/nationality instead of the individual. its so much easier. as we all know white people are never involved in raping women.

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Her first child was born at 18, I'll bet the 'Daddy/Daddys' of both of them could give a shit less if she's alone at 10:30pm or not. The reality is that women sometimes have to be out and about with kids even after dark. However they should make sure they have the ability to effect a just punishment there on the scene rather than have to sit and cry on a bathroom floor.

you guys make a lot of assumptions, to the point where its disgusting.

no matter what the thread topic theres always assholes who seem to know everything, people who seem to be clairvoyant enough to pick out the subtle details us mere mortals cant. things like this guy was an illegal, the victim was a slut with a sordid past, any guy shot by the cops with a police record of any sort was a hardcore criminal trying to kill again, etc.

maybe you guys should shave your heads and go work for the bureau of pre-crimes, because you are all friggin superstars in that respect.

signed, a 6'2" latino who wasnt in idaho at the time.

Speaking of assholes..... I never insinuated she was a 'slut' nor blamed her for the attack you genius. I simply stated that it was at least likely that she was not middle-class-mommie out for a stroll at 10:30pm and probably had little choice about having her kids with her while she was out. I notice you missed quoting what I replied to.

Pull the fucking log out of your own eye before you start screaming about everyone else's splinters.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:34:15 AM EDT

[#33]

so you didnt mention anything about her having a kid at 18 and the "daddy/daddy's"?

oh wait, you did. i quoted it right there. why didnt you explain that with your reply? you explained her going out at night.

what was the relevance to that statement unless you were using it to imply character?

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:39:18 AM EDT

[#34]

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so you didnt mention anything about her having a kid at 18 and the "daddydaddy's"?

It's right there in the quote. I don't deny I said it. She was 18 when her first child was born, and I don't know many 18 year old married couples. So it's pretty possible the daddy or daddies (since I don't if they were the same or different) are not around since she is having to carry two kids around at 10:30pm.

Get it? Or do the married families you know of usually send mom out with the kids at 10:30pm while dad sits at home? Mine usually wants to be in bed by 8:30 which means one of us is at home with her.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:40:37 AM EDT

[#35]

so in other words i was correct in saying it was an unwarranted assumption?

suppose dad is working late nights, she just got off work and was on the way home from picking up the kids from her moms who ws babysitting while she was working?

either way, WTF does any of that have to do with her getting raped? nothing at all. its a simple coming-out-of-ass statement meant to imply a bad character on her part.

like i said. read my post above. it still applies to you.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:42:51 AM EDT

[#36]

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so in other words i was correct in saying it was an unwarranted assumption?

Oh go nail yourself to another cross. It's an observation born out of experiance. If you can't tell the difference then your being obtuse to salvage your rant, or your just dim. I don't know which it is.

Since you love to edit your posts:

What if, what if, what if, what if. I didn't offer it as the truth of her situation just a possibility that was fairly likely. Anyway, I'm done addressing this. Keep up the righteous indignation though!

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:43:42 AM EDT

[#37]

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Hmmm, who wants to lay odds he is an illegal.....you know the kind the libs and dems want to just let into the country, since they are just hard working people looking for a better life.

Just more reason to mine and machine gun the border.....

http://www.a-human-right.com/s_surecure.jpg

Take him to the desert and make him dig his own grave!

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:43:49 AM EDT

[#38]

cover his naked body in banana pudding and toss him into a cage full of horny Gorrillas.

Then, before the gorrillas kill him, hand him over to the womans male family members. This is the only way to do it.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:45:22 AM EDT

[#39]

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so in other words i was correct in saying it was an unwarranted assumption?

Oh go nail yourself to another cross. It's an observation born out of experiance. If you can't tell the difference then your being obtuse to salvage your rant, or your just dim. I don't know which it is.

i dont think your experience is quite at the level you think it is.

so my scenario with dad at work and mom picking up the kids after she got off couldnt work?

it could, and because it could possibly work and you dont have any information to somehow suggest otherwise is why you should STFU and not make a comment either way, especially when speaking about a rape victim.

Posted: 1/9/2006 10:45:41 AM EDT

[#40]

WHatever her situations, these actions are completely uncalled for.

If someone is a slut, that does not make it an open invitation to force yourself on her.

Posted: 1/9/2006 11:03:29 AM EDT

[#41]

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it could, and because it could possibly work and you dont have any information to somehow suggest otherwise is why you should STFU and not make a comment either way, especially when speaking about a rape victim.

Ok I have to address this. So let me get this straight. Someone says that she should not have been out alone with her kids at 10:30pm, to which I say there is probably a reason why someone might be doing that, and give what I think may be that reason. I don't claim this HAS to be the only reason, just a reason she might be alone with small kids. I don't offer any of the other reasons YOU may be thinking in YOUR head, so therefore *I* am talking trash about a rape victim and consider myself a "mind reader"? Is that about the sum of it?

Posted: 1/9/2006 11:09:32 AM EDT

[#42]

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so in other words i was correct in saying it was an unwarranted assumption?

suppose dad is working late nights, she just got off work and was on the way home from picking up the kids from her moms who ws babysitting while she was working?

either way, WTF does any of that have to do with her getting raped? nothing at all. its a simple coming-out-of-ass statement meant to imply a bad character on her part.

like i said. read my post above. it still applies to you.

LOL daemon734 still is carrying on like a little bitch LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 1/9/2006 11:24:16 AM EDT

[#43]

Toby Keith (can't believe I'm quoting him....not that I dislaike him or anything...) said it best, "The long arm of the law needs to put a few more in the ground..."

Posted: 1/9/2006 11:46:54 AM EDT

[#44]

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I believe the tear dropen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_tattoo Means he has killed someone.

Or it can mean a year in jail or a stint in the state pen. Or it can mean he lost a friend or family member to violence.

As others have said, it can mean many things and the only way to really know is ask him.

Posted: 1/9/2006 11:55:38 AM EDT

[#45]

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That's just sooo wrong!

People like that do not deserve to even stand trial.

what are you some kind of communist?

"Many men get a fair trial and are hung afterwords." [/Cahill, U.S. Marshal]

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It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border...

There's plenty of cheap assed liberals who want the cheap labor for their homes. I live about 90 miles from Aspen.

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A 4'x4' concrete box buried 10' in the ground, with a hole on top for dropping
spoiled, maggot infested food once a week, and a hole on the bottom for the toilet.

Once a month, water is poured down for its "shower"....

Ahh...a variation of "the Boats." An ancient Persia execution method.

To wit:

"Taking two boats framed exactly to fit and answer each other, they lay down in one of them the malefactor that suffers, upon his back; then, covering it with the other, and so setting them together that the head, hands and feet of him are left outside, and the rest of his body lies shut up within, they offer him food, and if he refuse to eat it, they force him to do it by pricking his eyes; then, after he has eaten, they drench him with a mixture of milk and honey, pouring it not only into his mouth but all over his face. They then keep his face continually turned toward the sun; and it becomes completely covered up and hidden by the multitude of flies that settle upon it. And as within the boats does what those that eat and drink must do, creeping things and vermin spring out of the corruption of the excrement, and these entering into the bowels of him, his body is consumed. When the man is manifestly dead, the uppermost boat being taken off, they find his flesh devoured, and swarms of such noisome creatures preying upon and, as it were, growing to his inwards. In this way Mithridates, after suffering for seventeen days, at last expired." - THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION: PART 1 OUR ORIENTAL HERITAGE by Will Durant

ewwww.....

Posted: 1/9/2006 12:01:15 PM EDT

[#46]

Where was the other thread where someone said rape shouldn't be a capital crime?

Posted: 1/9/2006 12:06:05 PM EDT

[#47]

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That's just sooo wrong!

People like that do not deserve to even stand trial.

what are you some kind of communist?

"Many men get a fair trial and are hung afterwords." [/Cahill, U.S. Marshal]

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It's the stinking rich Republican business owners who don't want to pay Americans a decent wage who are encouraging these scumbags to come acrss the border...

There's plenty of cheap assed liberals who want the cheap labor for their homes. I live about 90 miles from Aspen.

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A 4'x4' concrete box buried 10' in the ground, with a hole on top for dropping
spoiled, maggot infested food once a week, and a hole on the bottom for the toilet.

Once a month, water is poured down for its "shower"....

Ahh...a variation of "the Boats." An ancient Persia execution method.

To wit:

"Taking two boats framed exactly to fit and answer each other, they lay down in one of them the malefactor that suffers, upon his back; then, covering it with the other, and so setting them together that the head, hands and feet of him are left outside, and the rest of his body lies shut up within, they offer him food, and if he refuse to eat it, they force him to do it by pricking his eyes; then, after he has eaten, they drench him with a mixture of milk and honey, pouring it not only into his mouth but all over his face. They then keep his face continually turned toward the sun; and it becomes completely covered up and hidden by the multitude of flies that settle upon it. And as within the boats does what those that eat and drink must do, creeping things and vermin spring out of the corruption of the excrement, and these entering into the bowels of him, his body is consumed. When the man is manifestly dead, the uppermost boat being taken off, they find his flesh devoured, and swarms of such noisome creatures preying upon and, as it were, growing to his inwards. In this way Mithridates, after suffering for seventeen days, at last expired." - THE STORY OF CIVILIZATION: PART 1 OUR ORIENTAL HERITAGE by Will Durant

ewwww.....

understatement of 2006.....ewwww is right

Posted: 1/9/2006 12:09:58 PM EDT

[#48]

NOW, the ACLU, NARAL, Brady, and numerous assorted other leftist organizations have weighed in on the issue already:

While we can sympathize with the victim in this case, much like other instances, the root causes of crime are easily traceable. Poverty, lack of funding for public education, strict immigration policies, lax gun safety laws, and a general unwillingness by the current administration to foster good will towards those less fortunate in our society all contribute to a sense of desperation by those less fortunate among us.

Posted: 1/9/2006 12:22:43 PM EDT

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it could, and because it could possibly work and you dont have any information to somehow suggest otherwise is why you should STFU and not make a comment either way, especially when speaking about a rape victim.

Ok I have to address this. So let me get this straight. Someone says that she should not have been out alone with her kids at 10:30pm, to which I say there is probably a reason why someone might be doing that, and give what I think may be that reason. I don't claim this HAS to be the only reason, just a reason she might be alone with small kids. I don't offer any of the other reasons YOU may be thinking in YOUR head, so therefore *I* am talking trash about a rape victim and consider myself a "mind reader"? Is that about the sum of it?

AGAIN, thats not the point i addressed. what i DID address is when you made the comments about her having kids at 18 and possibly having multiple fathers for her kids. if you dont remember your own words just scroll up a few posts and see for yourself.

and yet again, you fail to mention that comment in your "vindicate yourself" post.

i thought you were done with this?

here it is in case you forgot, you must be pretty stupid to keep addressing the only part of your comments that i have already told you TWICE i wasnt referring to with my replies.

ah, but if you did bring up the real point you would look like more of an ass, so its about saving face and trying to make the bad part of what you said slip to the backburner......

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Her first child was born at 18, I'll bet the 'Daddy/Daddys' of both of them could give a shit less if she's alone at 10:30pm or not.

bottom line, without all your fluff, you made an asinine and unwarranted statement, which in a discussion about a rape victim, is rather tasteless.

Posted: 1/9/2006 12:29:03 PM EDT

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LOL daemon734 still is carrying on like a little bitch LOL!!!!!!!!!!

i dont see anyplace here for you to further the cause for the fatherland 1488...your time could be better spent elsewhere.

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