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What kind of thread is this? OP tells us to buy something.....something or another and leaves us hanging. We need deets man! People want their deets.
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Good advice.
I'm setting these up for the family currently. I also have some Bendix King radios I used for wildland fire...those are programmed with the good stuff in my area. Attached File |
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Quoted: If you do not own an HF radio, buy one and learn how to set it up to listen at least. You don't need a license to listen, nor to transmit in an emergency. I'd really encourage you to do this as soon as possible. There is nothing wrong with owning eighty-seven PSA AR15s. There is something wrong with owning ten of them when you don't own armor or a helmet, or a radio, or night vision, or a proper compass and a paper map of your area. Things are about to get much worse. Exponentially. So take the advice, or don't. I'm just some guy on the internet, after all. View Quote Care to elaborate on the red text? @Ben |
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Quoted: For someone who can hardly use a flip phone, what does HF stand for. Asking for a friend. View Quote https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum |
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This thread is relevant to my interests.
As a child, I had a Radio Shack receiver that let me pick up stuff from all over the world. I had a big ARRL world map on the wall full of push-pins for places I had picked up broadcasts from. Bulgaria, Australia, England, and more. Always wanted to get a HAM license, but have not yet followed through. I do intend to at some point. I would love something that could pick up the commonly used frequencies, maybe even military stuff, and allow me to transmit on those frequencies that are permissible with a license. I don't anything about any of this, so would appreciate being pointed at specific equipment. |
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Quoted: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/367483/Screen_Shot_2021-01-08_at_3_56_34_PM-1770360.png View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: For someone who can hardly use a flip phone, what does HF stand for. Asking for a friend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_spectrum https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/367483/Screen_Shot_2021-01-08_at_3_56_34_PM-1770360.png |
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Quoted: If you do not own an HF radio, buy one and learn how to set it up to listen at least. You don't need a license to listen, nor to transmit in an emergency. I'd really encourage you to do this as soon as possible. There is nothing wrong with owning eighty-seven PSA AR15s. There is something wrong with owning ten of them when you don't own armor or a helmet, or a radio, or night vision, or a proper compass and a paper map of your area. Things are about to get much worse. Exponentially. So take the advice, or don't. I'm just some guy on the internet, after all. View Quote What do you suggest that is inexpensive for the Florida Gulf Coast area? |
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Quoted: Good post. I have my ARRL book here, but never got the license. I need to Google my local repeaters and set up my Baofengs via CHIRP. I have no excuse for not doing it yet. View Quote I got a radio recently, but haven't got a clue how to do a damn thing on it. I'm not sure what good it will do me even if I do get it programmed. What channels do Conservatives talk on? |
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Quoted: No. Baofeng handhelds are VHF/UHF, and poor choices at that. They are great for a disposable radio. They will die in a real rainstorm. An HF radio can use the same power as a baofeng and reach from Switzerland to England if the atmospheric conditions are right. Of course, you want more power than that ideally. They can be used to pass and recieve messages across entire continents. View Quote Link to one you'd recommend? |
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Quoted: Care to elaborate on the red text? @Ben View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: If you do not own an HF radio, buy one and learn how to set it up to listen at least. You don't need a license to listen, nor to transmit in an emergency. I'd really encourage you to do this as soon as possible. There is nothing wrong with owning eighty-seven PSA AR15s. There is something wrong with owning ten of them when you don't own armor or a helmet, or a radio, or night vision, or a proper compass and a paper map of your area. Things are about to get much worse. Exponentially. So take the advice, or don't. I'm just some guy on the internet, after all. Care to elaborate on the red text? @Ben Not for now. I'm not trying to be cryptic, but I also don't want to burn myself. |
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Armor check
Helmet check Radio check NV check Compass check Paper map of your area check Wire coat hanger check |
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I've got some baofengs sitting in boxes I haven't the first clue how to operate.
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Quoted: Quoted: No. Baofeng handhelds are VHF/UHF, and poor choices at that. They are great for a disposable radio. They will die in a real rainstorm. An HF radio can use the same power as a baofeng and reach from Switzerland to England if the atmospheric conditions are right. Of course, you want more power than that ideally. They can be used to pass and recieve messages across entire continents. Link to one you'd recommend? Lower powered Yaesu FT-818ND, can talk to HF/VHF/UHF and listen to whatever you like. Standby for higher power option... Yaesu FT-891 HF...much higher power, HF only. I'm not a radio guru. I know the above two are respectable for what they are and work, but we should be @ing the experts if you have gear questions. I know how to work my radio, but I don't have the technical knowledge or experience to advise on other options. |
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With my current wire antenna I can hear about 3/4 of the lower 48. I'll be on 40 and 80 meters tonight listening. Should be good.
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Quoted: Comms are essential. I'd also recommend getting a dedicated receiver to broaden your listening capability outside of HF bands. VHF, UHF, HF, SW, CB, CW, FRS/ GMRS, MARS, Digital, Trunking, etc. View Quote Absolutely. People need to stop with the 'just get a scanner app on your phone' crap. Buy the most capable scanner/receiver you can afford. |
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Quoted: I've heard for years now that comms are an important component of being prepared. Question: who am I supposed to talk to? I'm just a guy that goes to work and comes home every evening and spends the weekends working in the garage or going for a motorcycle ride. If things get so bad that I need a radio I suppose my wife and kids and I will stay home/together, whichever is appropriate. I don't know anyone that would be able to call in an air strike, or get supplies to whatever my location is, and no one is going to send any reinforcements to help prevent my position from being overrun. So tell a noob what these radios are going to be used for please. View Quote First I'd recommend growing your regular trusted contacts beyond your immediate family. You might try to get involved with a veterans organization in your area if you are eligible, or a chapter of the American Pioneer Corps, or both. I know that requires a lot of effort sometimes, and it can come at the cost of money, sleep, family time, etc- but it is worth it. And will infinitely more so be worth it in an emergency. Second, even if you have no one to talk to an HF radio will enable you with the opportunity to get news from anywhere in the country, or even the world. No joke. |
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I spent about 3 or 4 hours on youtube the other night looking at everything from hand held short range, medium range mobile and home base stations that will get you around the world. The information is overwhelming at first, but slowly you can start to learn what works best for you. You have to start somewhere. I live on a hill and found repeater about 5 miles away. So I think with a good antenna I could be in business.
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Quoted: First I'd recommend growing your regular trusted contacts beyond your immediate family. You might try to get involved with a veterans organization in your area if you are eligible, or a chapter of the American Pioneer Corps, or both. I know that requires a lot of effort sometimes, and it can come at the cost of money, sleep, family time, etc- but it is worth it. And will infinitely more so be worth it in an emergency. Second, even if you have no one to talk to an HF radio will enable you with the opportunity to get news from anywhere in the country, or even the world. No joke. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I've heard for years now that comms are an important component of being prepared. Question: who am I supposed to talk to? I'm just a guy that goes to work and comes home every evening and spends the weekends working in the garage or going for a motorcycle ride. If things get so bad that I need a radio I suppose my wife and kids and I will stay home/together, whichever is appropriate. I don't know anyone that would be able to call in an air strike, or get supplies to whatever my location is, and no one is going to send any reinforcements to help prevent my position from being overrun. So tell a noob what these radios are going to be used for please. First I'd recommend growing your regular trusted contacts beyond your immediate family. You might try to get involved with a veterans organization in your area if you are eligible, or a chapter of the American Pioneer Corps, or both. I know that requires a lot of effort sometimes, and it can come at the cost of money, sleep, family time, etc- but it is worth it. And will infinitely more so be worth it in an emergency. Second, even if you have no one to talk to an HF radio will enable you with the opportunity to get news from anywhere in the country, or even the world. No joke. Thank you. Makes sense. |
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I really like the Icom IC-7100 for a transceiver. If looking for receivers only, look up Grundig - Satellit series radios are great. Look for models that will receive SSB transmissions as well as AM, FM. Don't worry if that doesn't make sense now, just read up on it. Sony used to offer some good offerings and I think still does. Search short wave radios.
Satellit 750 or 800 are great receivers.https://www.amazon.com/Eton-Grundig-Satellit-750-Ultimate/dp/B0014T7W8Y Newer model: https://www.amazon.com/Eton-Classic-Clear-Sounding-Shortwave-NELITE750-dp-B08BVSCY8G/dp/B08BVSCY8G/ref=dp_ob_title_ce |
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Licensed since 1984 General class here.
Everyone needs to be licensed soon. |
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If you're studying for tech now, press on for general. Th HF bands all become available for lots of use. License now, learn to operate now. Not when shifting for reals.
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Quoted: If they wanted to, could the gov. jam the signals? View Quote It requires an immense amount of power to jam a frequency, the larger the area the more power needed. Multiple frequencies even more so. And HF is harder to locate the source and jam from a distance in the first place because it is not line of sight. So practically speaking on the macro scale? No. Not over large areas for long periods. If someone was targeting you specifically? Yes. |
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For anyone looking for an HF rig, I wholeheartedly recommend the Icom 7300. I have a Yaesu FT-857D setup as a portable HF rig. Yaesu makes great UHF/VHF handhelds.
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The Icom 718 is not a bad little HF radio and can be had for $600. It will get the job done. I am an Extra and a VE.
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If ordering from amazon don’t forget to use smile and choose American Pioneer Corps as your charity. In for antenna recommendations |
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I tried to buy a few radios a while ago. Got scammed. Person took the money but never shipped them. So does anyone have a link to which radios I should buy that is from a reliable source?
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HF is a ton of fun. I've had my General ticket a few years now and have made contacts all over. Have worked around 30 States and many countries, Canada, maybe a dozen in Europe, but also a couple in South America.
I got my first rig at a local club auction. Fortunately, in my area 2m is pretty active with several repeaters and clubs. Always someone to talk to and learn from. Learned alot using that rig, and eventually upgraded to a more modern unit acquired through eBay. It was manufactured in the early 2003, so it doesn't have all the bells and whistles a modern rig would have, but works great for me and requires no computer support to work. Couple of things to note based on my experience getting started: Your HF radio is only one part of the equation. Your antenna is equally as important to get the most out of your radio. In most cases a simple length of wire or a dipole antenna will work great. In my case, I use a vertical antenna with a large radial/ground plane field. I also have a multi band dipole for field operations and a portable mast to elevate it. You may also need a tuner to match your antenna and radio. This will prevent you from burning up your transmitter, but may not necessarily make your signal better. Most modern rigs will have a built in tuner, but it doesn't replace having a well matched antenna to the particular frequency you're operating on. Don't forget coax. The cable connection from your radio to the antenna could be the most important part of your system. You'll also need a good power supply. To my knowledge there are very few HF radios that plug into the wall. Most will need DC current to operate. Make sure you get one that has enough amps to operate your radio at full power and makes "clean", DC power. Not all power supplies are created equal, some will introduce noise into your system and make it harder to operate efficiently. Large car type batteries or deep cycle marine batteries work as well, but operating your HF radio at full power will drain one pretty quick. Solar or plug in charging methods are a necessity when operating for any length of time in this mode. Lastly is you. There is a bit of a learning curve regarding successful HF communications. The Technician ticket is a great place to start, getting you familiar with the terminology, equipment and operation of your radios. VHF/UHF is alot of fun. You can meet and learn from some great people, and yes, sometimes there are the stereotypical old men on there. All in with my mobile rigs, base stations and field station, I'm probably between $2500 and $3000. Keep in mind though, that you can get into the UHF/VHF game for less than $400 all in and be on the air with a real good, somewhat bullet proof setup. HF is somewhat more expensive, but with some patience, you could probably get into it for between $1000-$1500. Lastly, if you just want to listen, check broadcastify.com for police/fire/ems frequencies in your area and get a scanner that covers those frequencies. Just about all scanners will also cover the ham bands. May be a good way to get your feet wet and see if the radio hobby is for you. Happy to answer any questions with my limited knowledge. The ham radio forum here is filled with some real smart and helpful people. KC1*** |
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A complete package with the radio, antenna and tuner would be appreciated if it’s available at one source. Thanks
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Got my crappy chicom radios 2 days ago. I already set them up, it is easy if you aren't retarded. I can hit several repeaters from my home and work. There is no traffic on any of them though.
eta didn't notice HF |
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Quoted: I tried to buy a few radios a while ago. Got scammed. Person took the money but never shipped them. So does anyone have a link to which radios I should buy that is from a reliable source? View Quote Order from MTC Radio. I have bought from them in person and online. Great people. https://www.mtcradio.com/ Great customer service and will recommend and make suggestions. |
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Quoted: HF is a ton of fun. I've had my General ticket a few years now and have made contacts all over. Have worked around 30 States and many countries, Canada, maybe a dozen in Europe, but also a couple in South America. I got my first rig at a local club auction. Fortunately, in my area 2m is pretty active with several repeaters and clubs. Always someone to talk to and learn from. Learned alot using that rig, and eventually upgraded to a more modern unit acquired through eBay. It was manufactured in the early 2003, so it doesn't have all the bells and whistles a modern rig would have, but works great for me and requires no computer support to work. Couple of things to note based on my experience getting started: Your HF radio is only one part of the equation. Your antenna is equally as important to get the most out of your radio. In most cases a simple length of wire or a dipole antenna will work great. In my case, I use a vertical antenna with a large radial/ground plane field. I also have a multi band dipole for field operations and a portable mast to elevate it. You may also need a tuner to match your antenna and radio. This will prevent you from burning up your transmitter, but may not necessarily make your signal better. Most modern rigs will have a built in tuner, but it doesn't replace having a well matched antenna to the particular frequency you're operating on. Don't forget coax. The cable connection from your radio to the antenna could be the most important part of your system. You'll also need a good power supply. To my knowledge there are very few HF radios that plug into the wall. Most will need DC current to operate. Make sure you get one that has enough amps to operate your radio at full power and makes "clean", DC power. Not all power supplies are created equal, some will introduce noise into your system and make it harder to operate efficiently. Large car type batteries or deep cycle marine batteries work as well, but operating your HF radio at full power will drain one pretty quick. Solar or plug in charging methods are a necessity when operating for any length of time in this mode. Lastly is you. There is a bit of a learning curve regarding successful HF communications. The Technician ticket is a great place to start, getting you familiar with the terminology, equipment and operation of your radios. VHF/UHF is alot of fun. You can meet and learn from some great people, and yes, sometimes there are the stereotypical old men on there. All in with my mobile rigs, base stations and field station, I'm probably between $2500 and $3000. Keep in mind though, that you can get into the UHF/VHF game for less than $400 all in and be on the air with a real good, somewhat bullet proof setup. HF is somewhat more expensive, but with some patience, you could probably get into it for between $1000-$1500. Lastly, if you just want to listen, check broadcastify.com for police/fire/ems frequencies in your area and get a scanner that covers those frequencies. Just about all scanners will also cover the ham bands. May be a good way to get your feet wet and see if the radio hobby is for you. Happy to answer any questions with my limited knowledge. The ham radio forum here is filled with some real smart and helpful people. KC1*** View Quote I don't think this is a thread about the "radio hobby." |
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Quoted: I tried to buy a few radios a while ago. Got scammed. Person took the money but never shipped them. So does anyone have a link to which radios I should buy that is from a reliable source? View Quote https://www.hamradio.com/ Physical stores across the country too |
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Quoted: A complete package with the radio, antenna and tuner would be appreciated if it’s available at one source. Thanks View Quote This would be helpful. I was looking at the Icom 7300 and then got lost with the antenna choices, tuner and power supply. Mostly the antenna is where I get confused. |
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I just got a cheapie UHF.VHF on amazon....good lord, $600+ entry fee? Another expensive hobby...
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