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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:39:11 AM EDT
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I firmly believe the feds are going to jump Kyle's friend's ass as soon as Kyle's case is closed.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:39:42 AM EDT
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The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire!
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:39:53 AM EDT
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I have a lot of work to do and I only want to post in ARFCOM.  I need to get a life.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:40:19 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:02 AM EDT
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Thank God for long running programs. I'm in the same boat.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:22 AM EDT
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The whole case needs to be tossed with prejudice, the misconduct of the prosecutor is undeniable, plus this is pretty clear self defense and kyle should never have wound up in court anyway.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:22 AM EDT
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Word on the street is that 2 jurors are hung up because they fear what could happen to them if they vote not guilty.

That should tell you all you need to know about the state of affairs in this nation.
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You arent the first so dont take this personal...

If you come here to post breaking news (from 12+ hrs ago) at least take a minute to see if its been hashed out 2 or 87 times already.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:45 AM EDT
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So this trial has made my blood boil to the point that I took a few days off. What have I missed? Are we expecting a verdict today? Is mistrial off the table?
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:51 AM EDT
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There will likely be a number of non-socialists forced to defend themselves and they will face the same charges as KR.
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That may be so, but we must come to a point where we say enough is enough. The reason they have run roughshod over us is because we have let them. If several more rioters are perforated then they might, just might, have second thoughts about going a'rioitin. Especially if they stand a decent chance of picking up busted teeth with broken fingers.

Just sayin.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:42:53 AM EDT
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I firmly believe the feds are going to jump that dude's ass as soon as Kyle's case is closed.
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kinda, late yesterday evening the defense found out that the state gave the defense a compressed video vs giving the defense the high def video.  They tacked on a couple of other prosecution violations too boot.

I firmly believe the feds are going to jump that dude's ass as soon as Kyle's case is closed.


The feds? Why would they go after someone on their side?

Is my sarcasm meter broken?
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:43:45 AM EDT
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wait, the identity of "jump kick man" was reveaeled?

The state knew it?.....If so, that right there is enough to cause a mistrial.  Suppressing the evidence of a key eye-witness is HUGE!
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Not only did the state know who he was.

Binger was the DA who had jumpkick man in court 2 months prior and gave him a plea deal with 12mos probation.

Jumpkick man has a history and has even been arrested a couple times since the riots.  He came to the DA, told him who he was, and tried to get a deal for immunity/charges dropped in exchange for his testimony.  They apparently said nope.

So yeah, the DA knew who he was the whole time.  And they apparently kept that to themselves since everybody else has been calling him "unidentified jump kick man".
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:43:51 AM EDT
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wait, the identity of "jump kick man" was reveaeled?

The state knew it?.....If so, that right there is enough to cause a mistrial.  Suppressing the evidence of a key eye-witness is HUGE!
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It's a pattern.

Not executing the warrant on GG's phone, who they know was using to record and communicate that night, who they know has a criminal history, who has been heavily engaged in these riots.

Is also suppressing evidence. They tried to explain that away with Marcy's law, but we all know that was bullshit.

Who knows what else was suppressed but I bet there is more.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:43:57 AM EDT
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As I understand it that is a second motion for mistrial filed by the defense.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:44:12 AM EDT
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I think today's gonna be the day. The jury will return a verdict of guilty on some of the charges because they "have to." That or maybe a hung jury, but I'd put it at a 90% chance they find him guilty of something.

There will be riots either way.

I hope I'm wrong.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:45:04 AM EDT
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So this trial has made my blood boil to the point that I took a few days off. What have I missed? Are we expecting a verdict today? Is mistrial off the table?
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There are only 12 people who have any idea of when a verdict will be reached, and none of them are here
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:45:31 AM EDT
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The judge isn't going to do jack shit about it.

The prosecutors know that.

Prosecutors routinely get away with this kind of bullshit.
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Yes, it appears they want to throw the case, as it were.  It would be sweet if the judge threw the whole thing out with prejudice.  For some reason, this judge just doesn't seem to address these matters.  Jump kick guy was revealed, then this video.  Is this guy just waiting to let the prosecutor bury himself?


The judge isn't going to do jack shit about it.

The prosecutors know that.

Prosecutors routinely get away with this kind of bullshit.


I think a lot of people are not understanding that this isn't a rogue prosecutor, this is business as usual for many DA offices.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:46:21 AM EDT
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It never was Kyle's. He will likely never hold that rifle again.
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When the Not Guilty verdict is announced later today will Kyle receive back the AR?

Or will it need to be transferred back to the purchaser which was Kyle's buddy then to an FFL and finally back to Kyle?  



It never was Kyle's. He will likely never hold that rifle again.


Fuck the rifle.  If he gets out of this without a felony on his record he can buy a new rifle.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:46:26 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:46:49 AM EDT
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Copy of Motion for Mistrial with Prejudice.

New allegation, the prosecution had the 1080p of the drone footage and only gave the defense team a 480p copy of it. Those crooked cocksuckers need to be strung up.
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In a just world, there’d be a necklace party in the Kenosha town square.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:47:09 AM EDT
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I think a lot of people are not understanding that this isn't a rogue prosecutor, this is business as usual for many DA offices.
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Thats what creeps me out the most. It really drives home the "never talk to police" video.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:47:17 AM EDT
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Been covered multiple times (I don't mean to sound like a dick). It would go back to his friend Dominic Black and then be used as evidence against him.
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Interesting argument arises from that:

"The Kenosha County Circuit Court returned the rifle to my client, thus declaring that he is the lawful owner of the rifle.  If my client is the lawful owner, then no transfer occurred.  Hence, no straw purchase."
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:48:26 AM EDT
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So this trial has made my blood boil to the point that I took a few days off. What have I missed? Are we expecting a verdict today? Is mistrial off the table?
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The big lawyer guy said in his closing arguments that there is no such thing as a left handed gun. Also according to the prosecutors FMJ rounds are in the same category as black tipped armored rounds.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:48:35 AM EDT
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The whole case needs to be tossed with prejudice, the misconduct of the prosecutor is undeniable, plus this is pretty clear self defense and kyle should never have wound up in court anyway.
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Fucking this man.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:48:58 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:49:36 AM EDT
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I have a lot of work to do and I only want to post in ARFCOM.  I need to get a life.
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Even yesterday, knowing that deliberation could take all day, I was still glued to the trial.

I've really grown to enjoy the Rekieta Law channel. I like the way they argue both sides, and point out the good and bad moves made by both the Prosecution and the Defense.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:50:25 AM EDT
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The feds? Why would they go after someone on their side?

Is my sarcasm meter broken?
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I quoted wrong post. I was talking about Black, who purchased the rifle.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:52:04 AM EDT
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Yes, it appears they want to throw the case, as it were.  It would be sweet if the judge threw the whole thing out with prejudice.  For some reason, this judge just doesn't seem to address these matters.  Jump kick guy was revealed, then this video.  Is this guy just waiting to let the prosecutor bury himself?
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Judge is a fucking boomer cuck.  He should have already dismissed it.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:52:16 AM EDT
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The big lawyer guy said in his closing arguments that there is no such thing as a left handed gun. Also according to the prosecutors FMJ rounds are in the same category as black tipped armored rounds.
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So this trial has made my blood boil to the point that I took a few days off. What have I missed? Are we expecting a verdict today? Is mistrial off the table?

The big lawyer guy said in his closing arguments that there is no such thing as a left handed gun. Also according to the prosecutors FMJ rounds are in the same category as black tipped armored rounds.
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:52:22 AM EDT
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So this trial has made my blood boil to the point that I took a few days off. What have I missed? Are we expecting a verdict today? Is mistrial off the table?
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Even better, a new motion to dismiss has been filed thanks to the Prosecution withholding a higher res version of the drone video from the Defense.

Should be fun!
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:52:51 AM EDT
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Fuck the rifle.  If he gets out of this without a felony on his record he can buy a new rifle.
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Shit, man.  He can pick one out of my pile.

I'm pretty sure there's a million other individuals and companies who feel the same way.

S&W should sponsor his ass like that Jerry guy.  Get him the hat, the shirt, and the AR to go with them.



Also interesting, this is a screencap from a video where Jerry's trying to shoot 5 shots into the target in 1 second, while standing still and preparing himself at the range.  Kyle put 4 shots into a moving target while running away in 0.73 seconds.  Thats some damn fine shooting.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:54:53 AM EDT
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Not shitting on thread, just a little pick me up.
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Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:55:08 AM EDT
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Fuck the rifle.  If he gets out of this without a felony on his record he can buy a new rifle.
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We all know he will have to sue FBI to get a clear NICs check, just like James Okeefe did.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:56:34 AM EDT
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When the Not Guilty verdict is announced later today will Kyle receive back the AR?

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lol
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:57:57 AM EDT
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Not only did the state know who he was.

Binger was the DA who had jumpkick man in court 2 months prior and gave him a plea deal with 12mos probation.

Jumpkick man has a history and has even been arrested a couple times since the riots.  He came to the DA, told him who he was, and tried to get a deal for immunity/charges dropped in exchange for his testimony.  They apparently said nope.

So yeah, the DA knew who he was the whole time.  And they apparently kept that to themselves since everybody else has been calling him "unidentified jump kick man".
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I don't believe this was included in the recent motion to dismiss, was it? It was just for the withheld video, iirc.

I'd love to see them file another motion to dismiss this morning, and see the judge try to avoiding acting on three valid motions placed before him, all for egregious violations.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:58:00 AM EDT
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I'm here to Free Kyle and Own page 475.  And I just owned 475.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:58:04 AM EDT
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In a just world, there'd be a necklace party in the Kenosha town square.
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Copy of Motion for Mistrial with Prejudice.

New allegation, the prosecution had the 1080p of the drone footage and only gave the defense team a 480p copy of it. Those crooked cocksuckers need to be strung up.

In a just world, there'd be a necklace party in the Kenosha town square.

In a just world this never would have gone to trial. But here we are, and can only hope those involved in prosecution are reminded daily of their own words, everyone gets a beatdown. I'll take prosecutorial misconduct and disbarment but this is a banana republic set in clown world

Between the jump kicker being known by the prosecutors and only coming out after trial went to jury (how convenient), the violations of the 5th by the prosecutors and this withholding evidence how the hell can the judge not rule anything but mistrial with prejudice  
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:58:50 AM EDT
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I think it would be funny in some ways to see a mistrial but would hope “with prejudice” would be there. This is for Kyles sake, he has been through enough.

On the flip side if the “with prejudice” wasn’t there, if another trial happens hopefully ALL the evidence would be present…like the unedited video and bring up two more felony witnesses (jump kick man and the other guy that will have his trial in Jan).  Then Kyle to sue the fuck out of everyone.
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Does anyone have a summary on the Jump Kick Man revelation from earlier today?

I'd love to see the Defense file a third motion to dismiss before the jury has reached a verdict. That might help force the Judge to act, so these poor jurors won't have to suffer the mob's wrath.


I think it would be funny in some ways to see a mistrial but would hope “with prejudice” would be there. This is for Kyles sake, he has been through enough.

On the flip side if the “with prejudice” wasn’t there, if another trial happens hopefully ALL the evidence would be present…like the unedited video and bring up two more felony witnesses (jump kick man and the other guy that will have his trial in Jan).  Then Kyle to sue the fuck out of everyone.


Needs to be with prejudice or it is financial double jeopardy for Kyle unless the defense can be paid from the winnings of Kyle's civil suits.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:59:13 AM EDT
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I think today's gonna be the day. The jury will return a verdict of guilty on some of the charges because they "have to." That or maybe a hung jury, but I'd put it at a 90% chance they find him guilty of something.

There will be riots either way.

I hope I'm wrong.
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No way they get 12 people to agree on a guilty charge.  No fucking way.  Not Guilty or Hung Jury.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:59:28 AM EDT
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Swing and a miss!
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 9:59:52 AM EDT
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I firmly believe the feds are going to jump Kyle's friend's ass as soon as Kyle's case is closed.
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This is sort of getting in the weeds so to speak, but there are a number of legal doctrines which would apply in federal court to bar the relitigation of the same or substantially similar issues being decided by the jury here, which are pretty broad and numerous. So they'd have to go with something not even at issue in this state court criminal trial. I'm sure they could find something, but to the extent any of the factual issues were arguably considered by the jury here, they would likely be applied also in federal court. Assuming a non-woke federal judge had the case.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:00:34 AM EDT
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Uh?
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:01:03 AM EDT
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Lol. No
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:01:07 AM EDT
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It's because, respectfully, women think with their heart first and then their brain. Men more often think with their brain only and no heart, which can be just as bad.

I was the head juror for a local embezzlement case with a county employee. There was virtually no evidence against her... she was storing some speakers and party stuff in her car because Covid caused and event she was planning to be canceled and the county was accusing her of stealing them.

From the second we walked into deliberations 10/12 jurors were not guilty on all charges. The other two older ladies felt she was guilty because "she just acted guilty". I was so dumbfounded by listening to them explain why they thought she was guilty. They had virtually no facts to support their idea, just that they "felt deep down in their heart" that she was guilty and planned to keep the stuff forever. They were willing to send this woman to jail for 10-30yrs over feels.

Fortunately, the other jurors and I were able to convince them to focus only on the facts and block out any feelings or judgments outside of the facts of the case.


I will add that one of the other jurors who was female was one of the strongest critics of their "feelings", so it's definitely not a universal thing.
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Some people simply should not serve on juries.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:01:50 AM EDT
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Kyle is either acquitted or his trial results in a hung jury.
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:02:07 AM EDT
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What time do they get back in court?
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Ooh, missed it by that much!
Link Posted: 11/17/2021 10:02:22 AM EDT
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I have a good feeling about today.
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