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Posted: 1/22/2019 10:18:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are CUVs out there with crazy high mileage. The most common examples of this are the CR-V, RAV4, and Highlander. I knew a guy with ~290k on a first gen CR-V. It didn’t have any issues in the 2.5 years or so between the time I met him and the time he traded it off. Just for giggles, get on autotrader and plug in Sub/Yukon/1500 and see how many over 200k there are close to you. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 10:25:03 AM EDT
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Saw it at the car show Saturday, was kind of surprised that they painted it such a shitty color. Its like we are reliving the 70's again. 
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Posted: 1/22/2019 10:25:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt they would want to reverse engineer chevys AFM, or plastic dash boards, recalled door handles, or any of the other countless class action bullshit the Tahoe and Yukon’s have.....oh, almost forgot the 8 speed tranny and road force balancing tires debacle still going on No thanks |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 10:26:40 AM EDT
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So now they’re reduced to naming cars after Tim McGraw songs?
When is Dodge doing the Indian Outlaw? |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 1:31:31 PM EDT
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So now they’re reduced to naming cars after Tim McGraw songs? When is Dodge doing the Indian Outlaw? |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:12:51 PM EDT
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that's a sharp looking truck. This is kinda sad too me... I think the rise of the Koreans is the death of American autos... they're just tired... their styling is weak, their quality/reputation sucks... The Koreans are young and hungry, they're innovative style-wise and giving value for dollar with efficiency and reliability... this combined with the established Japanese dominance in resale and reliability perception leaves the domestics scraps and in third place I'm afraid.. American auto needs to pull their head outta their asses or they will go the way of the Dodo once these asian manufacturers seriously step into the pickup game... they'll have nothing left. The American consumer that believes that is the end of domestic autos. Its been bantered which autos are the parents of this thing. All of the Korean autos-new kids on the proverbial block - look like something domestic or import already in existence. Lastly-anybody who buys a Korean car, gets the vehicle they deserve. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:17:51 PM EDT
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Some shots from NAIAS this week. https://i.imgur.com/rpxz0JN.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jaZ37Ur.jpg https://i.imgur.com/asfiHep.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SGoGkph.jpg https://i.imgur.com/feQ8RJj.jpg |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:20:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sounds like a town in Colorado to me. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:24:27 PM EDT
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not to hijack, but we test drove a buick SUV and a subaru SUV...the difference in quality was unbelievable. and i am/was a GM guy....
if thats all the better GM/domestics can do....ug... |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 2:49:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roflmao. The American consumer that believes that is the end of domestic autos. Its been bantered which autos are the parents of this thing. All of the Korean autos-new kids on the proverbial block - look like something domestic or import already in existence. Lastly-anybody who buys a Korean car, gets the vehicle they deserve. 
What do you mean Hyundai and Kia are the new kids? They are both over 70 years old |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 3:46:14 PM EDT
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Damn, I really am liking that. If its priced good it will be a hot seller |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 3:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Roflmao. The American consumer that believes that is the end of domestic autos. Its been bantered which autos are the parents of this thing. All of the Korean autos-new kids on the proverbial block - look like something domestic or import already in existence. Lastly-anybody who buys a Korean car, gets the vehicle they deserve. The Koreans are building good stuff. They are much more competitive with the Japanese than anything domestically built, and Honda and Toyota will need to up their game to stay ahead of them. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 4:06:57 PM EDT
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I was thinking more along the lines of... A Porsche Cayenne and a Range Rover got freaky. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks like a Jeep and a Range Rover copulated. I'm intrigued. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 4:10:47 PM EDT
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Well, not everyone deserves a dependable, affordable, and loaded with gizmos automobile, there is some evil people out there
What do you mean Hyundai and Kia are the new kids? They are both over 70 years old |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 4:43:29 PM EDT
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Making bicycle parts is a hard sell on consistent manufacturing. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 6:49:10 PM EDT
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Isnt their 1st foray into "full size" SUV's. THey had the Borrego a number of years ago. V8, rwd/4wd and could tow.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 6:55:56 PM EDT
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Isnt their 1st foray into "full size" SUV's. THey had the Borrego a number of years ago. V8, rwd/4wd and could tow. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 7:40:30 PM EDT
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The Borrego is still around just not in the states, I would not mind a new one Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isnt their 1st foray into "full size" SUV's. THey had the Borrego a number of years ago. V8, rwd/4wd and could tow. Kharn |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 9:37:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sales people all ready have a raging boner for it What do they see the price point being around? If they can do this near 30k you will see them everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 9:38:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is the MPG on it? What do they see the price point being around? If they can do this near 30k you will see them everywhere. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 9:49:52 PM EDT
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And why isn't it sold here? Reusing an existing design would be far cheaper than a brand new one. Kharn its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 9:53:59 PM EDT
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Kia actually had a full size SUV previously called the Borrego. A co-worker rented one, it was bland styling wise but was well built, roomy, and capable. Had they prized it to a point where it was a clear discount over, say, an Explorer....and gussied it up just a bit.....I think it would have sold well.
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Posted: 1/22/2019 10:08:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: mid 20s i bet, and i think somewhere between 30 and 40k, there is no cloth option from what i hear, they all have leather just like the stinger. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:35:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No cloth? Not cool. 
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:48:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: go be poor somewhere else? |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:53:55 PM EDT
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That is simply the reality of taking a vehicle high mileage. Everything you mentioned is an afternoon, beer in hand DIY fix, other than the cluster, which is 5 minutes to remove and drop in the mail for repair, then another 5 minutes to put back in. Shit wears out in 300k, but most of the failure points are well known and accessible, which is why you see so many GMT800s with such high miles on the road still. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: IDK about the newest ones, but the last generation of them would go 300k for sure. You'd just have to replace the instrument cluster, the 4wd control board once or twice, the rear HVAC wiring harness when the blower power wire burned up the clips, the wheel bearings, the fuel pump, the HVAC blend actuators, and a bunch of other odds and ends. And those are just some of the *common* problems with them, we're not even getting into uncommon stuff. |
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Posted: 1/22/2019 11:55:45 PM EDT
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Has a Range Rover vibe
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:28:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: go be poor somewhere else? When it's cold, the seats are freezing, when it's hot the seats will burn you. Oh, let's fix that by installing seat heating elements and ventilation fans, or even A/C ducting, adding tons of crap to go wrong and break over time, or just choose a better seat cover material. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 1:54:05 AM EDT
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So now they're reduced to naming cars after Tim McGraw songs? When is Dodge doing the Indian Outlaw? |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:11:28 AM EDT
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Looks like a range rover in the front and Volvo xc90 in the back. I kind of dig it.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:20:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/23/2019 2:50:29 AM EDT
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Has a Range Rover vibe |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 3:02:49 AM EDT
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Saw it at the car show Saturday, was kind of surprised that they painted it such a shitty color. Its like we are reliving the 70's again. I'm tired of driving around looking at grey scale non-colors. I'm ready for a return to the '70s and '80s two tone paint jobs and the '90s where looking at an interstate was like looking at a bunch of M&Ms/Skittles in rows. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 3:10:30 AM EDT
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A first gen CRV is not the same animal as a new Kia. "I know a guy" is anecdotal. I know a guy whose Highlander blew up at 150k; that doesn't mean most Highlanders will blow up at 150k. Just for giggles, get on autotrader and plug in Sub/Yukon/1500 and see how many over 200k there are close to you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: There are CUVs out there with crazy high mileage. The most common examples of this are the CR-V, RAV4, and Highlander. I knew a guy with ~290k on a first gen CR-V. It didn’t have any issues in the 2.5 years or so between the time I met him and the time he traded it off. Just for giggles, get on autotrader and plug in Sub/Yukon/1500 and see how many over 200k there are close to you. The ones that are based on quality cars hold up well. I listed those three models because they were around when CUVs were just starting to gain traction. I've known a few people with high mileage Suburbans/Tahoes, too. Most of those have needed a transmission or three to get where they are in life. The repair gets paid for because the vehicles are worth it. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 3:16:14 AM EDT
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Almost looks like an Explorer at first glance. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 3:32:15 AM EDT
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I like most of what I see except towing capacity... I don't need off road capability but for my needs I'd like to see 6500 ish lbs towing capacity. Kia media link Standard towing rated up to 5,000 pounds3 |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 8:22:52 AM EDT
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I hate leather seats. I would pay extra for non-leather seats. When it's cold, the seats are freezing, when it's hot the seats will burn you. Oh, let's fix that by installing seat heating elements and ventilation fans, or even A/C ducting, adding tons of crap to go wrong and break over time, or just choose a better seat cover material.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:51:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeh, for a "full size" SUV, 5,000 lbs. is pretty lame. When I think of American full-size I think of an Expedition |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:51:34 AM EDT
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I've had at least two cars with heated cloth seats. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:35:23 AM EDT
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its now long in the tooth on some parts of its architecture, body on frame sucks for crash tests, heavy, most are v6 diesels, crappy average mileage "new 8 speed made it way better though", and import shenanigans its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And why isn't it sold here? Reusing an existing design would be far cheaper than a brand new one. Kharn its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:46:54 AM EDT
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GM isn't building the 1990s GMT400 series Tahoe/Suburban anymore either, companies have to refresh and redesign occasionally instead of putting out the same model and calling it a day when it gets stale. But convincing Americans that Koreans understand heavy trucks/SUVs?
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And why isn't it sold here? Reusing an existing design would be far cheaper than a brand new one. Kharn its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn
Kharn
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:50:12 AM EDT
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I hate leather seats. I would pay extra for non-leather seats. When it's cold, the seats are freezing, when it's hot the seats will burn you. Oh, let's fix that by installing seat heating elements and ventilation fans, or even A/C ducting, adding tons of crap to go wrong and break over time, or just choose a better seat cover material. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:56:45 AM EDT
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Kia has only been producing trucks for near 60 years now Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And why isn't it sold here? Reusing an existing design would be far cheaper than a brand new one. Kharn its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn
Kharn Kharn |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:03:17 AM EDT
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Well....
IT looks good. But holy shit those marketing wanketeers should have spoken to some actual off-road adventure trekking up fitters about what and where they were going to place pieces of equipment on those demo vehicles. As they are, it's obvious they just "let's make it look cool" and went with it. Yes, Telluride is a town in Colorado. No, Black Bear Pass is not THAT bad. It's not technical, just steep. Yes it has tight turns. Yes you'll need to make them a three point turn in anything but a stock two door jeep (or similar) wheelbase. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:06:18 AM EDT
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Waiting on the one ton crew cab version.
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Posted: 1/23/2019 11:17:25 AM EDT
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Sales people all ready have a raging boner for it Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, I really am liking that. If its priced good it will be a hot seller Hard to beat what I've been leasing loaded Explorers for, though. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 7:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: its now long in the tooth on some parts of its architecture, body on frame sucks for crash tests, heavy, most are v6 diesels, crappy average mileage "new 8 speed made it way better though", and import shenanigans its called the Mohave everywhere else, it would be really nice if they brought it back though, 8 speed, true 4WD with high/low and a true transfer case this direct link will take you too it https://www.kia.com/kr/vehicles/mohave/features.html the page is all in Korean but you will get the point. @Kharn If it has true 4wd, starts in the low 30s, and can compete with 55k Tahoe and Expedition then Kia will have a real winner. However, that 3rd row and engine choice is going to be key. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:21:18 PM EDT
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2/3/2 seating like the Atlas but it doesn't look like there is much leg room in the last row. If it has true 4wd, starts in the low 30s, and can compete with 55k Tahoe and Expedition then Kia will have a real winner. However, that 3rd row and engine choice is going to be key. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 9:34:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's what I like to call Asian full size When I think of American full-size I think of an Expedition They are all good, but they are built for a very asian market. |
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Posted: 1/23/2019 10:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: problem is that i think that is not going to happen, it seems like they might be phasing out the old Mohave soon in the next few years so that chapter might close for good. The Santa Fe had a good 4wd when they came out but Hyundai decided to fuck with it. |
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