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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:02:50 PM EDT
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I like the Subaru Ascent and VW Atlas better.
Rode in one at NAIAS today. Saw the unveiling at oress preview a couple years ago. *Meh*. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:03:05 PM EDT
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Kia has been in the US market for awhile. I'm surprised that they haven't stepped into the truck market yet. They have two two huge factories down here. They considered building a third, then realized they could save $$ by making these bigger and more efficient. All while adding new vehicles to those factories. If you're ever scheduled to be near either of the factories, sign up to take a tour. They book months in advance. The only areas you don't see are the dust free areas. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:04:00 PM EDT
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It's got good looks.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:04:40 PM EDT
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Looks just like a Jeep Cherokee
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:07:24 PM EDT
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Very interested.
Might get rid of the Tahoe for that thing |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:08:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doubtful. I rode in one during the industry preview on Wednesday and that thing had more BSR/NVH issues over mild off-road type obstacles, noises a uni-body vehicle shouldn’t be making. And that was on day 1 maybe an hour after the doors had opened our true off roader is the mohave but it is unknown if we will ever see it here again body on frame, true 4wd, 8 speed, high and low, locking diffs, and a V6 diesel engine, if only it would come back 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:10:04 PM EDT
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You'd think that they would clean the tires for an auto show
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:10:17 PM EDT
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I don't know jack about the combination of internal combustion engines along with electric motors for performace, but I would trust the idea, since Infiniti did the same thing with their Red Sport 400 Q60.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:11:44 PM EDT
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In the market? They are adding U.S. production while American brands are making them overseas. They have two two huge factories down here. They considered building a third, then realized they could save $$ by making these bigger and more efficient. All while adding new vehicles to those factories. If you're ever scheduled to be near either of the factories, sign up to take a tour. They book months in advance. The only areas you don't see are the dust free areas. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kia has been in the US market for awhile. I'm surprised that they haven't stepped into the truck market yet. They have two two huge factories down here. They considered building a third, then realized they could save $$ by making these bigger and more efficient. All while adding new vehicles to those factories. If you're ever scheduled to be near either of the factories, sign up to take a tour. They book months in advance. The only areas you don't see are the dust free areas. and kia has technically been here since the 80s who do you think built all these things for ford? o boy how things have changed 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:11:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: you know those are 2 year old mules right? notably this is just going to be another grocery get that might see gravale every once in a while. our true off roader is the mohave but it is unknown if we will ever see it here again body on frame, true 4wd, 8 speed, high and low, locking diffs, and a V6 diesel engine, if only it would come back https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/main_mohave_w.jpg https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/mohave_interior01_w.jpg https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/mohave_interior02_w.jpg I am well aware of what mules are and what they look like, these were not cobbled together. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:14:28 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this is a unibody deal, not body on frame. The rig in the OP looks pretty sharp.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:15:32 PM EDT
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Telluride? Sounds like some chemical with a Tellurium base. http://www.tellurideinside.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/town-of-telluride.jpg  |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:17:41 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this is a unibody deal, not body on frame. The rig in the OP looks pretty sharp. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:20:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Sounds like a town in Colorado to me. Quoted: Isn't that a place in Colorado? Quoted:
Sounds like a ski town in Colorado to me |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:21:50 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this is a unibody deal, not body on frame. The rig in the OP looks pretty sharp. What are the odds that they finally get into the truck game? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:21:59 PM EDT
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Is "Telluride" Korean for wannabe Suburban? |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:22:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those were not mules. I am well aware of what mules are and what they look like, these were not cobbled together. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:22:55 PM EDT
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Interesting. I’m more interested in the ST explorer though. 400 hp AWD. Probably be crazy markup though.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:23:51 PM EDT
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That’s the only thing I’m not crazy about. Not a dealbreaker. But damn I love a frame. What are the odds that they finally get into the truck game? ask hyundai instead, they have been screwing around with the santa cruz idea |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:24:18 PM EDT
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Sure - if the Suburban were priced 50% less. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:25:02 PM EDT
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Probably calling it Telluride because of the relation with black bear pass.
 Jeepin’ on Black Bear Pass, Ouray Colorado, Telluride |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:25:25 PM EDT
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I need a full-sized Honda SUV.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:26:32 PM EDT
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I'm assuming this is a unibody deal, not body on frame. The rig in the OP looks pretty sharp. Like I said, good looking rig. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:28:11 PM EDT
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”The Kia's styling is so trucklike and bold, in fact, that you could be forgiven for thinking it's an old-school, body-on-frame SUV along the lines of Chevrolet's Tahoe or GMC's Yukon. (It's also nothing like the body-on-frame Borrego SUV that Kia built for just a year about 10 years ago.) Nonetheless, the Telluride rides on a front-wheel-drive-based unibody platform shared with the Hyundai Palisade. Both will be built at the same Georgia plant where Kia assembles the Sorento.” 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:28:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: are you saying that a semi hand built, somewhat imprecise welded, and a unlocked engine controls is not a mule? If they are, then they should make that explicitly clear. Because, in my opinion, it’s not a good look for them to introduce a vehicle in a market they’re entering that makes as much noise as that one does. Do I believe the vehicles that are used are job 1 vehicles? No. Most likely they are either VP or PS builds, depending on the timing. And those builds are NOT mules - they’re production intent. |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:29:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:31:28 PM EDT
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I waiting for the AWD Soul LP promised a while back. They are thinking 2020 or so.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:31:41 PM EDT
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McPherson suspension?
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:47:07 PM EDT
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Those off road models look good.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:50:26 PM EDT
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I waiting for the AWD Soul LP promised a while back. They are thinking 2020 or so.
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:51:29 PM EDT
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Sounds like a town in Colorado to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Telluride? Sounds like some chemical with a Tellurium base. 
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:51:40 PM EDT
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Looks like Kia is stepping into the full size SUV market. This thing looks good and depending on the price may look at picking one up once they are available. @LittlePony do you have any info about when these will be available or what the price will be?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427538/2020-kia-telluride-lead-1547481599_jpg-814132.JPG |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:57:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The gheyest Colorado town |
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Posted: 1/19/2019 11:57:13 PM EDT
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Probably calling it Telluride because of the relation with black bear pass.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-0aJ_kHKKk |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:00:41 AM EDT
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Nope. It's Kia speak for "we can reverse engineer this and build it out of crap material and sell it in America because nobody in Korea is going to be stupid enough to buy this steaming pile of shit" Or some such thing. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is "Telluride" Korean for wannabe Suburban? It's Kia speak for "we can reverse engineer this and build it out of crap material and sell it in America because nobody in Korea is going to be stupid enough to buy this steaming pile of shit" Or some such thing. Kia has their domestic market figured out, but the US is where the real money is. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:03:14 AM EDT
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its gonna be interesting, its going to be made in gerogia only for now making it one of the few kias not available in Korea itself. its bigger than a sorento |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:06:04 AM EDT
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still waiting for the AWD soul as well Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I waiting for the AWD Soul LP promised a while back. They are thinking 2020 or so. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:06:21 AM EDT
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I'm sure T-ride will fucking love that. Aspen got a Dodge Maybe a Subaru Sundance? A Suzuki Steamboat? A VW Vail? A Buick Breckenridge? A Chevy Crested Butt (Mahk would love it) |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:08:00 AM EDT
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Saw this about a month ago when the teaser was released.
It looks like they couldn't decide whether to knock off the Ford Expedition or Cadillac Escalade, so they split it down the middle. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:09:33 AM EDT
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Looks like Kia is stepping into the full size SUV market. This thing looks good and depending on the price may look at picking one up once they are available. @LittlePony do you have any info about when these will be available or what the price will be?https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/427538/2020-kia-telluride-lead-1547481599_jpg-814132.JPG Ford Grille with Caddy headlights. Looks like shit. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:12:21 AM EDT
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Good looking ride.
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:12:29 AM EDT
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Mpg?
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:13:42 AM EDT
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Quoted: The gheyest Colorado town  ended up there on an offroading trip, out of all the towns we hit, fucking Telluride made it damn clear that they didn't like us driving on "their" mountain
It's like a high altitude San Francisco |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:15:05 AM EDT
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I like the Subaru Ascent and VW Atlas better. Rode in one at NAIAS today. Saw the unveiling at oress preview a couple years ago. *Meh*. The Atlas is baller and I would have bought one if it weren't for VW's spectacularly bad resale. It handled great and had a well mated transmission that took it around with a bit of gusto. Base model Telluride starts with a 291HP V6 which puts it squarely into the Highlaner/Explorer/Pilot/Atlas territory. If they also mate it to a hybrid drive and get it to 400HP we may need to trade in my wifes Mazda and get me one of these. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:19:31 AM EDT
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This thing is here to compete against the Pilot, Highlander, Traverse/Acadia, Journey, Pathfinder, etc.
I have little interest in this segment, but it shouldn't be hard for Kia to kick GM's, FCA's, and Nissan's asses. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:26:57 AM EDT
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So are these things Tahoe sized or smaller?
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:30:24 AM EDT
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So are these things Tahoe sized or smaller? |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 12:31:24 AM EDT
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Looks like a Jeep and a Range Rover copulated. I’m intrigued. |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 2:36:56 AM EDT
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I laugh at the hard core Jeep thing. Back in the 80's, I did Black Bear in a stock S-10 Blazer in a snowstorm in October. It was interesting. We stayed at the New Sheridan. We were told that people would rent Jeeps and abandon them at the hairy spot, mostly Texans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably calling it Telluride because of the relation with black bear pass. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-0aJ_kHKKk |
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Posted: 1/20/2019 8:53:01 AM EDT
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Those were not mules. I am well aware of what mules are and what they look like, these were not cobbled together. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: you know those are 2 year old mules right? notably this is just going to be another grocery get that might see gravale every once in a while. our true off roader is the mohave but it is unknown if we will ever see it here again body on frame, true 4wd, 8 speed, high and low, locking diffs, and a V6 diesel engine, if only it would come back https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/main_mohave_w.jpg https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/mohave_interior01_w.jpg https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kr/ko/images/vehicles/all-new-mohave/features/20181008/mohave_interior02_w.jpg I am well aware of what mules are and what they look like, these were not cobbled together. What really blew my mind was all the scenery was real. They brought in real mulch, shrubs, rocks, and trees for the course lol. Also one of the static displays at the Kia booth had a fake ladder and air snorkel on the side lol. |
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