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Quoted: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FoH795kWYAAWBll?format=jpg&name=small There's also a healthy amount of this going on with Karl and Ko. |
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Quoted: The funny thing is that they will still fall for it even though it is an inevitability. Karl will eventually get cancelled and act like he never saw it coming. It's almost like they have some sort of shaming fetish. |
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Quoted: He's already been cancelled by normal people. He mostly caters to fringe extremists at this point. Objectively, his videos don't do all that great compared to his sub count, meaning that he's got a lot of dead subs, and the videos that do decently are about guns and not politics. Even then, more often than not, he fails to get anywhere close to six figure view counts. He's objectively not that popular. And if Ian hadn't brought him under his aegis years ago, he'd be even less popular. I still sub to Forgotten Weapons, and watch almost every video he puts out. Except the Brutality ones. Fuck that, that's Karl's schtick and I'll be damned if I help popularize with a click. |
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Quoted: And if Ian hadn't brought him under his aegis years ago, he'd be even less popular. I still sub to Forgotten Weapons, and watch almost every video he puts out. Except the Brutality ones. Fuck that, that's Karl's schtick and I'll be damned if I help popularize with a click. Guys. Violent communists have always liked guns. They derive power from the end of one. |
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Quoted: Neat. Nobody gives a shit that some guy was exposed on ar.15.com outside of people on ar.15.com. I think your wrong. I talked to three different people about this today at a match. I was actually quite shocked. The biggest issue that came up is Karls's support of people that advocate violence against the US. None knew of the threads here, but the word is spreading outside of this forum. |
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Quoted: I think your wrong. I talked to three different people about this today at a match. I was actually quite shocked. The biggest issue that came up is Karls's support of people that advocate violence against the US. None knew of the threads here, but the word is spreading outside of this forum. I have no issue in being incorrect about this. |
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Quoted: That’s all wrong too. My understanding (likely also wrong) is that they transferred some weapons, in Arizona, to a guy who was a California resident. Dude had an AZ address and a AZ ID. Interestingly, I used to know that guy. ATF stacked a ton of bullshit charges to coerce a plea deal. Lots of Arfcommers bought special lowers or donated to CavAid. CavArms was very big on Arf then. When Shawn took the deal, a lot of people here were mad, like they thought their $10 donation obligated CavArms to fight to the death and go to prison. CavAid was cool but it ended with a vocal group making GD look bad. That’s my (possibly all screwed up) memory of how it happened. Thanks for correcting me. Still sounds like malum prohibida or whatever non evil but unlawful kind of offenses. |
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Quoted: You can’t organize a mob. The disorganization is the charm of a mob. If you organize it, it’s more of a posse. Maybe a squad, or a crew, depending on size and motivation level. Quoted: Quoted: Nope. That is your choice and you are free to say so. It's the organizing a mob that I don't particularly care for. You can’t organize a mob. The disorganization is the charm of a mob. If you organize it, it’s more of a posse. Maybe a squad, or a crew, depending on size and motivation level.  |
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Quoted: I think your wrong. I talked to three different people about this today at a match. I was actually quite shocked. The biggest issue that came up is Karls's support of people that advocate violence against the US. None knew of the threads here, but the word is spreading outside of this forum. Quoted: Quoted: Neat. Nobody gives a shit that some guy was exposed on ar.15.com outside of people on ar.15.com. I think your wrong. I talked to three different people about this today at a match. I was actually quite shocked. The biggest issue that came up is Karls's support of people that advocate violence against the US. None knew of the threads here, but the word is spreading outside of this forum. Same thing has been said about BRCC and their history and how no one cares but here. Then I've heard from non-arfcom people IRL about it, too. That it's noticed here is just another point of exposure. |
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Quoted: Trying to stay out of this as much as possible. I do find it sad that one side is lighting torches and grabbing pitchforks and the other is not. With that said, I will again ask everyone here to not attack them and leave them in peace. We are not here to harm companies who are not our enemy and who believe in the 2A. Anyone who promotes an agenda like this will be warned or removed. They are entitled to their opinions and beliefs. It is the very core of what makes this country great. If you don't agree with them, then don't go to their pages! I am going to have to chime in on this one boss. You say these people are not our enemy. I say that is a VERY naive position to take regarding communists and those that side with that ideology. It is diametrically opposed to EVERYTHING the U.S.A. stands for. So, I am going to go out on a limb and say people like this are not entitled to anything, because what they beleive in goes against that core that made this country great at one time. You said in another post you've been at this for over 30 years, surely within that amount of time you have been witness to what their ideology has been doing to the U.S.A.?? Surely you see what it is doing to the whole planet? If it seems I have an agenda so be it. Warn me or ban me. But these folks are playing for all the marbles, and it ain't freedom. |
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Quoted: Thanks for correcting me. Still sounds like malum prohibida or whatever non evil but unlawful kind of offenses. Quoted: Quoted: That’s all wrong too. My understanding (likely also wrong) is that they transferred some weapons, in Arizona, to a guy who was a California resident. Dude had an AZ address and a AZ ID. Interestingly, I used to know that guy. ATF stacked a ton of bullshit charges to coerce a plea deal. Lots of Arfcommers bought special lowers or donated to CavAid. CavArms was very big on Arf then. When Shawn took the deal, a lot of people here were mad, like they thought their $10 donation obligated CavArms to fight to the death and go to prison. CavAid was cool but it ended with a vocal group making GD look bad. That’s my (possibly all screwed up) memory of how it happened. Thanks for correcting me. Still sounds like malum prohibida or whatever non evil but unlawful kind of offenses. Mala prohibita vs. Mala in se |
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Quoted: Libertarianism is unique in that its biggest selling point is also its biggest potential failure. The big point of that here is that allowing grooming, socialism, extra rights is not libertarian. These things hurt others, and libertarians (should) draw lines in stuff like this. It’s not an approach in which one sells out and ignores things like Russel is doing. It’s leave people alone as long as they don’t change/harm my way of life. Supporting Antifa, socialists, and these groups of people who are trying to mold society in their favor is not libertarian. There’s a big difference in not caring if someone is gay, versus arming them and flipping profit off people forcing their beliefs on others. Point being that Russel is not a libertarian. He’s just lazy and greedy, or empathizes with their cause. Libertarianism is a great approach to government but a terrible approach to an ethos. The whole point of governmental libertarianism is that it allows a society to enforce its own morals by freedom of association. If you are an asshole you can't receive my charity or buy things from me. Presto, social order enforced without government intrusion. If you don't like the local culture and don't want to assimilate you have the freedom of movement and social mobility to go somewhere else. |
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So a guy who has a haircut that was very popular in the decade between the 30s and the 50s in a country that invaded France and Poland, and is proud to be a part of a Socialist group that happen to be the famous party in charge of that country during that time. Something about them wearing brown shirts? We shouldn't spend money with a company that has a color similar to shit in their name along with half assed poly lowers? |
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Quoted: Reading what I’ve read so far leads me to believe you’re being less than fully honest. What do I have to lie about? Especially to the likes of you; someone posting in a thread about a thread he didn't bother to read. Karl did in fact say he wouldnt take his kids to a drag show, nor would he take them to a Rated R movie. The fact that he equated the two was lame. Karl did indeed try to cmpare sexual grooming of kids to parental grooming of kids. Which is also bullshit. Run along, n00b. |
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Quoted: Yes I agree with all points. My intent was not to label Russell as a libertarian at all, but to imply that a broadly libertarian culture will allow people like him to blend in as if he was. I didn’t want to speculate or define what his politics truly are as he isn’t here to defend or define it nor am I particularly interested in listening to him anymore if he were - it would probably be untrue anyways based on how he has acted. And the sad part is that I don’t think he is even intentionally nefarious in his actions, he just doesn’t even realize his own nonsense. The thing I noticed in Russell's replies was that multiple times he used the language of the extreme progressives. I have no idea if he believes it or was just trying to get a reaction. Either way that was enough to drop anything related to KE arms or his channel. |
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Quoted: Mala prohibita vs. Mala in se Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That’s all wrong too. My understanding (likely also wrong) is that they transferred some weapons, in Arizona, to a guy who was a California resident. Dude had an AZ address and a AZ ID. Interestingly, I used to know that guy. ATF stacked a ton of bullshit charges to coerce a plea deal. Lots of Arfcommers bought special lowers or donated to CavAid. CavArms was very big on Arf then. When Shawn took the deal, a lot of people here were mad, like they thought their $10 donation obligated CavArms to fight to the death and go to prison. CavAid was cool but it ended with a vocal group making GD look bad. That’s my (possibly all screwed up) memory of how it happened. Thanks for correcting me. Still sounds like malum prohibida or whatever non evil but unlawful kind of offenses. Mala prohibita vs. Mala in se Man, I'm having a hard enough time keeping up, but now you guys are getting all Legally Blonde on me. I appreciate the Far Side cartoons. Those I understand. 
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Quoted: Another side effect of it getting locked, and not nuked, is if you search Karl Kasarda - we show up more times in the results; because Google indexes everything. Hopefully that can steer folks to coming to their own conclusions in the future. Small victories. Just the reason it might get nuked. |
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Quoted: I am going to have to chime in on this one boss. You say these people are not our enemy. I say that is a VERY naive position to take regarding communists and those that side with that ideology. It is diametrically opposed to EVERYTHING the U.S.A. stands for. So, I am going to go out on a limb and say people like this are not entitled to anything, because what they beleive in goes against that core that made this country great at one time. You said in another post you've been at this for over 30 years, surely within that amount of time you have been witness to what their ideology has been doing to the U.S.A.?? Surely you see what it is doing to the whole planet? If it seems I have an agenda so be it. Warn me or ban me. But these folks are playing for all the marbles, and it ain't freedom. Quoted: Quoted: Trying to stay out of this as much as possible. I do find it sad that one side is lighting torches and grabbing pitchforks and the other is not. With that said, I will again ask everyone here to not attack them and leave them in peace. We are not here to harm companies who are not our enemy and who believe in the 2A. Anyone who promotes an agenda like this will be warned or removed. They are entitled to their opinions and beliefs. It is the very core of what makes this country great. If you don't agree with them, then don't go to their pages! I am going to have to chime in on this one boss. You say these people are not our enemy. I say that is a VERY naive position to take regarding communists and those that side with that ideology. It is diametrically opposed to EVERYTHING the U.S.A. stands for. So, I am going to go out on a limb and say people like this are not entitled to anything, because what they beleive in goes against that core that made this country great at one time. You said in another post you've been at this for over 30 years, surely within that amount of time you have been witness to what their ideology has been doing to the U.S.A.?? Surely you see what it is doing to the whole planet? If it seems I have an agenda so be it. Warn me or ban me. But these folks are playing for all the marbles, and it ain't freedom. +1, nailed it to the chapel door. |
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/520283/Screenshot_20230204-121210_png-2697989.JPG @raf Is this enough evidence? I left other thread after saying all I had to say and getting roundly abused for it, even though I disagree strongly with some of Karl's positions/statements/actions and said so multiple times. Now it seems I'm being "invited" to join this one, lol. This thread looks to be heading in same direction as the other one, which I believe became a witch hunt. Unfortunate because a lot of legit info was provided in the other thread. When Admin and Sr. Staff enter a thread and make cautionary statements; it would be wise to listen. |
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Quoted: If he had said "Some Members of AR15.Com" instead of "AR15.com Officially", I'd say he had a point. I left other thread after saying all I had to say and getting roundly abused for it, even though I disagree strongly with some of Karl's positions/statements/actions and said so multiple times. This thread looks to be heading in same direction as the other one, which I believe became a witch hunt. When Admin and Sr. Staff enter a thread and make cautionary statements; it would be wise to listen. You left the last thread after a zillion posts of essentially the same thing repeated a million times, asking for a burden of proof equivalent to that of a criminal conviction to support notions that anyone familiar with basic human behavior would understand (that people hang out with and socialize with people who they share interests with). Given that to a loser like the KE crew and Karl silence is violence and not deepthroating a dildo at the local pride parade is equivalent to a physical assault on transgender children, do you think they associate with anyone but their fellow travelers? Well, outside of when they're making money off of it. Your posts appear to be heading in the same direction as the last ones. When 30 pages of people are telling you how ridiculous, dense, and obtuse you are, it would be wise to take a hint. It felt like you enjoyed the negative attention as much as Karl, but at least he channels it into online grifting so he gets something from it. |
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Quoted: If he had said "Some Members of AR15.Com" instead of "AR15.com Officially", I'd say he had a point. I left other thread after saying all I had to say and getting roundly abused for it, even though I disagree strongly with some of Karl's positions/statements/actions and said so multiple times. Now it seems I'm being "invited" to join this one, lol. This thread looks to be heading in same direction as the other one, which I believe became a witch hunt. Unfortunate because a lot of legit info was provided in the other thread. When Admin and Sr. Staff enter a thread and make cautionary statements; it would be wise to listen. Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/520283/Screenshot_20230204-121210_png-2697989.JPG @raf Is this enough evidence? I left other thread after saying all I had to say and getting roundly abused for it, even though I disagree strongly with some of Karl's positions/statements/actions and said so multiple times. Now it seems I'm being "invited" to join this one, lol. This thread looks to be heading in same direction as the other one, which I believe became a witch hunt. Unfortunate because a lot of legit info was provided in the other thread. When Admin and Sr. Staff enter a thread and make cautionary statements; it would be wise to listen. You bring up another plight on society today, fear of speaking your mind for fear of punnishment. We should all just shut up and listen to our betters. |
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Quoted: What do I have to lie about? Especially to the likes of you; someone posting in a thread about a thread he didn't bother to read. Karl did in fact say he wouldnt take his kids to a drag show, nor would he take them to a Rated R movie. The fact that he equated the two was lame. Karl did indeed try to cmpare sexual grooming of kids to parental grooming of kids. Which is also bullshit. Run along, n00b. When people play in that area, on that subject; well, it’s good enough for me. I’m glad he’s banned; now, for you, apologists get the *click*.  |
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Quoted: Agreed. That’s some reddit tier safe space baby shit. Let them engage and defend their dogshit positions as long as they don’t violate the rules. This place is weak and woke like the rest of our society, sad times. If I talked the way actually american men do I'd be banned in a second, so instead I curtail my speech and rarely post. |
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Quoted: If anything in that thread, @wildturkey09 's banter with Corral was the best https://i.imgur.com/eLsrRMH.png Hopefully his words come back to haunt him. |
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Oh no! Not the hate speech! That’s the worst kind of speech! You don’t need a hate speech to kill a deer! |
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Quoted: You left the last thread after a zillion posts of essentially the same thing repeated a million times, asking for a burden of proof equivalent to that of a criminal conviction to support notions that anyone familiar with basic human behavior would understand (that people hang out with and socialize with people who they share interests with). Given that to a loser like the KE crew and Karl silence is violence and not deepthroating a dildo at the local pride parade is equivalent to a physical assault on transgender children, do you think they associate with anyone but their fellow travelers? Well, outside of when they're making money off of it. Your posts appear to be heading in the same direction as the last ones. When 30 pages of people are telling you how ridiculous, dense, and obtuse you are, it would be wise to take a hint. It felt like you enjoyed the negative attention as much as Karl, but at least he channels it into online grifting so he gets something from it. Quoted: Quoted: If he had said "Some Members of AR15.Com" instead of "AR15.com Officially", I'd say he had a point. I left other thread after saying all I had to say and getting roundly abused for it, even though I disagree strongly with some of Karl's positions/statements/actions and said so multiple times. This thread looks to be heading in same direction as the other one, which I believe became a witch hunt. When Admin and Sr. Staff enter a thread and make cautionary statements; it would be wise to listen. You left the last thread after a zillion posts of essentially the same thing repeated a million times, asking for a burden of proof equivalent to that of a criminal conviction to support notions that anyone familiar with basic human behavior would understand (that people hang out with and socialize with people who they share interests with). Given that to a loser like the KE crew and Karl silence is violence and not deepthroating a dildo at the local pride parade is equivalent to a physical assault on transgender children, do you think they associate with anyone but their fellow travelers? Well, outside of when they're making money off of it. Your posts appear to be heading in the same direction as the last ones. When 30 pages of people are telling you how ridiculous, dense, and obtuse you are, it would be wise to take a hint. It felt like you enjoyed the negative attention as much as Karl, but at least he channels it into online grifting so he gets something from it. If asking folks to apply the same rules for evidence on Karl's behalf that they would want to see used if they were accused of wrongdoing makes me the subject of attack, so be it. Unpleasant attacks were expected. Even my self-defending responses got me accused of "White Knighting" and making the thread about myself. Also expected. Very predictable. There was enough solid info provided in other thread to convince me that Karl is far away from me ideologically. All the personal attacks did was to discredit the posters making them, and get the thread locked. I have no "special knowledge" but I believe absent the personal attacks and such, the thread would still be "live". Frankly, I have much better things to do than be an unwilling bystander to a witch hunt. |
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Quoted: Great, leave this one too. Quoted: Quoted: Frankly, I have much better things to do than be an unwilling bystander to a witch hunt. Great, leave this one too. I understand that there are some folks who feel threatened by remarks which contradict the majority mind-set. That's the way it goes. |
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Karl likes Satan and hates Christians I disagree with the principles of socialism Even though I disagree with socialism and think it has accounted for millions if not billions of unjustified and unneeded deaths, I don't think anyone here said that Karl should have his 1A or 2A rights stripped because he is a satanist loving commie who hangs out with creeps |
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Quoted: Give me a link so I can read for myself. Personally, I condemn Pedophiles. Quoted: Quoted: Read the thread last night and that guy Karl just could not denounce pedophilia. Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. |
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Quoted: When people play in that area, on that subject; well, it’s good enough for me. I’m glad he’s banned; now, for you, apologists get the *click*. Silly n00b. Nobody apolgized for that turd, I mean Corral. Attached File |
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Quoted: Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Read the thread last night and that guy Karl just could not denounce pedophilia. Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. |
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Quoted: Tried, but too much bloviating there. Pls give better directions/linkage. Perhaps to specific poster (or post #) on that page. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Read the thread last night and that guy Karl just could not denounce pedophilia. Link is in the OP, then start reading at page 32. I'm keeping an open mind but need specific evidence. His username is 2gACM. You are asking me to do your own homework? 
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