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I don't want degenerates like him in my home, on my street, in my community, in my county, in my state, or in my country, and not least of all, on my arfcom. And he was right, it's not the state's job to keep these people out and marginalized; it's our job, each and every one of us. We make up our communities. The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. |
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Quoted: My take on the situation is that there is a far greater number of far left Americans that have chosen to take up arms and train to use them than was previously thought by those on the right. |
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Quoted: You must not use twitter. They think that if you don't let children take HRT, you're committing genocide and should be shot. Quoted: Quoted: My take on the situation is that there is a far greater number of far left Americans that have chosen to take up arms and train to use them than was previously thought by those on the right. I do not use Twitter. But I think we agree here. |
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Quoted: Karl hopped in just to get it locked. That is exactly what happened. And leftists are experts at using your society against you. And fake conservatives do their dirty work for them. Freedom of religion? Invent a religion that attacks morality at its core and you can't stop it. Freedom of speech? Shouting down the opposition and attacking any pushback against their end. I will eventually get to say I told you so, but it will be too late. |
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Quoted: That is exactly what happened. And leftists are experts at using your society against you. And fake conservatives do their dirty work for them. Freedom of religion? Invent a religion that attacks morality at its core and you can't stop it. Freedom of speech? Shouting down the opposition and attacking any pushback against their end. I will eventually get to say I told you so, but it will be too late. |
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Quoted: After reading the KF thread (sorry I'm not skimming all 30 something pages of the actual thread), my quick and dirty understanding is that he basically called for his fans to attack the site, because he didn't like getting laughed at on the internet? Quoted: Quoted: That is exactly what happened. And leftists are experts at using your society against you. And fake conservatives do their dirty work for them. Freedom of religion? Invent a religion that attacks morality at its core and you can't stop it. Freedom of speech? Shouting down the opposition and attacking any pushback against their end. I will eventually get to say I told you so, but it will be too late. prime lolcow |
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Quoted: He also spent a lot of time responding to knee jerk reactionary posters to mock them and ignoring people asking him to defend his stated beliefs or beliefs implied by actions. A bunch of "nyah! Commie!" back and forth accomplished little besides locking the thread. Your long series of thoughtful and direct questions was ignored. For his statement that he believes children not to be property of the state and that he wouldn't take children to an R rated movie as a parallel for drag shows for kids...well then why support armed ideologues making a violent show of force against their fellow citizenry for objecting to such? Drag queen militias aren't there keeping "the state" away, they're there to intimidate regular people who see adult men in womanface singing "lick me where I pee" as sexualing kids. The same people if they came armed to protect a parent's choice from public criticism to drag a 6 year old to see No Country For Old Men or Showgirls or Robocop 2 would also rightfully be seen as nuts. It's indefensible and I think he knows it, but he's painted himself into a corner with allies who won't let him say no. If he really didn't care, he would've not responded. He's smart enough to know that there are some inherent contradictions, but there's social pressure to prevent a break from his new "friends". @Sirveaux And those that started and continued the "Nyah! Commies" bullshit were tagged in the OP. We didnt police ourselves in that thread. Then again, not a single Mod did either. See, I think we can all agree with his statement that children should not be property of the state. I think we can all agree, for the most part that we shouldn't take kids to Rated R movies. Your follow-up questions, I would've liked to see answers to, but J-Pat had to do his stupid "Commie" schtick and tie up the board. I would also have liked t seen answers to someone else's follow up questions about him defining grooming because I thought Karl's response was pretty weak. I agree with your last to sentences, I'd only add that it isn't just "his allies" who wont let him say "no", it's also ego, pride, and hubris. |
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Quoted: Oh Carmella, how I miss thee. The OG Queen of the big titty bed thrashers. Quoted: Oh Carmella, how I miss thee. The OG Queen of the big titty bed thrashers. Yeah. Last I checked she was getting rather large and BBW may be an understatement. |
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Quoted: These are from today's posting on FB. Make of it what you will. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083625_Facebook_jpg-2697686.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083618_Facebook_jpg-2697687.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083812_Facebook_jpg-2697689.JPG Sounds loony toons to me. What a snow job. |
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Listen all, I did not lock the thread until it devolved into arguments and the attacks started to go over the line. I warned everyone in the thread pages before it happened, knowing emotions were running high. I will now monitor this thread to try to ensure it doesn't happen again, but that is entirely on those posting in it. Share facts, history, etc but do not let it get to insults or threats. That will lead this thread being locked as well. |
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Quoted: Listen all, I did not lock the thread until it devolved into arguments and the attacks started to go over the line. I warned everyone in the thread pages before it happened, knowing emotions were running high. I will now monitor this thread to try to ensure it doesn't happen again, but that is entirely on those posting in it. Share facts, history, etc but do not let it get to insults or threats. That will lead this thread being locked as well. Quoting you just in case people don’t realize it you Mr. Goat boy. Sounds fair to me. |
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Quoted: Along with five of his closest friends. Three brand new accounts and two old accounts with few posts. Quoted: Quoted: Karl hopped in just to get it locked. Along with five of his closest friends. Three brand new accounts and two old accounts with few posts. Let me guess, those valued members still have their accounts? |
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Quoted: What a phony. His bud apparently wants to kill people that want to limit child abuse performed under the guise if freedom. Quoted: Quoted: These are from today's posting on FB. Make of it what you will. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083625_Facebook_jpg-2697686.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083618_Facebook_jpg-2697687.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/Screenshot_20230204_083812_Facebook_jpg-2697689.JPG What a phony. His bud apparently wants to kill people that want to limit child abuse performed under the guise if freedom. Claiming that folks, like those on arf, want "rights for me, but not for thee", while defending an ideology that wants exactly that is both disturbing and telling. |
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@2gACM I'll post the questions here again since the last one got brigaded by your supporters. Do you think the state should have any involvement in preventing abuse of children? "That would obviously violate the rights of the child, they are not of the age of agreed upon consent." I thought you didn't like the state being involved? Who is the authority on the age of consent? |
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Quoted: He also spent a lot of time responding to knee jerk reactionary posters to mock them and ignoring people asking him to defend his stated beliefs or beliefs implied by actions. A bunch of "nyah! Commie!" back and forth accomplished little besides locking the thread. Your long series of thoughtful and direct questions was ignored. For his statement that he believes children not to be property of the state and that he wouldn't take children to an R rated movie as a parallel for drag shows for kids...well then why support armed ideologues making a violent show of force against their fellow citizenry for objecting to such? Drag queen militias aren't there keeping "the state" away, they're there to intimidate regular people who see adult men in womanface singing "lick me where I pee" as sexualing kids. The same people if they came armed to protect a parent's choice from public criticism to drag a 6 year old to see No Country For Old Men or Showgirls or Robocop 2 would also rightfully be seen as nuts. It's indefensible and I think he knows it, but he's painted himself into a corner with allies who won't let him say no. If he really didn't care, he would've not responded. He's smart enough to know that there are some inherent contradictions, but there's social pressure to prevent a break from his new "friends". Quoted: Quoted: I can’t tell if he’s a good guy or a bad guy. Honest take. I will say that if he wants anarchy he should pool his resources with his ideological compatriots and buy some land and build his own community. I’m not sure that A) he understands that people like him didn’t build the society that he’s rebelling against and has no claims to change it and B) literally no one is stopping him from going out and founding Luciferburg with his own money and ideas. He also spent a lot of time responding to knee jerk reactionary posters to mock them and ignoring people asking him to defend his stated beliefs or beliefs implied by actions. A bunch of "nyah! Commie!" back and forth accomplished little besides locking the thread. Your long series of thoughtful and direct questions was ignored. For his statement that he believes children not to be property of the state and that he wouldn't take children to an R rated movie as a parallel for drag shows for kids...well then why support armed ideologues making a violent show of force against their fellow citizenry for objecting to such? Drag queen militias aren't there keeping "the state" away, they're there to intimidate regular people who see adult men in womanface singing "lick me where I pee" as sexualing kids. The same people if they came armed to protect a parent's choice from public criticism to drag a 6 year old to see No Country For Old Men or Showgirls or Robocop 2 would also rightfully be seen as nuts. It's indefensible and I think he knows it, but he's painted himself into a corner with allies who won't let him say no. If he really didn't care, he would've not responded. He's smart enough to know that there are some inherent contradictions, but there's social pressure to prevent a break from his new "friends". That’s a charitable take. I hope it is the correct one. I completely understand the reactionary thinking as well. It’s fairly linear. |
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Quoted: @J-pat @floridacop @2gacm @federov https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Looks-like-Karl-from-InRange-TV-isn-t-shy-about-his-love-of-Drag-Queens-Karl-buttmad-p-32/5-2607124/?page=37 Bet he takes the "Strawberry Shortcut."  Strawberry Shortcut (60fps) |
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I have removed several accounts including 2g and Sinistral. I ask that personal attacks not be posted in this thread and folks stick to discussion of information they have shared. In short, post facts not feelings. If they are unable to defend themselves, you should not post anything that would warrant that. Anyone here who crosses the line (or plays in the gray area) will risk their account. I hope this is clear. This community exists to share our love of the 2A and not to harm people's lives. I think we all feel that everyone is entitled to freedoms and to live peaceful and happy lives. The issue most of us have is when folks push their agendas on us, or on innocents. While some out there may feel we are too opinionated, we will continue fight to defend the constitution, the country, and our fellow Americans. That includes against those in this country who wish to burn it down. |
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Quoted: @2gACM I'll post the questions here again since the last one got brigaded by your supporters. Do you think the state should have any involvement in preventing abuse of children? "That would obviously violate the rights of the child, they are not of the age of agreed upon consent." I thought you didn't like the state being involved? Who is the authority on the age of consent? Attached File Though we may see the brigade show up Attached File Edit: let's keep it civil. If an account or 20 show up to stir the pot, just ignore them and keep to the discussion topic. |
| The part I will never understand is the wanting/willingness for harm to happen to those you disagree with. The premise behind that is two fold. Violence perpetrated against an individual and a perceived lack of rights. I've never been able to get someone on the trans side of the debate to actual point out ways i as a straight white man have more rights then a trans person. I can point out ways a trans person is now catered to at my place of employment that hurts everybody else, the women especially. The violence part, it's not a random person being murdered in their home in suburbia, it's normally in some fringe area and the "violence" is there as part of the area. |
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Quoted: I had never heard of them, so I’m guessing I’m not missing much. As to Karl and the topic at hand, I think it’s imperative to push back against leftist agitators. Quoted: Quoted: Well KE Arms is now persona non grata with my wallet. I had never heard of them, so I’m guessing I’m not missing much. As to Karl and the topic at hand, I think it’s imperative to push back against leftist agitators. He has his right to speech as much as the rest of us, just as I have the right to tell him that he's full of it. if there's a public outing to show up shout him down at, I'm game. Did you know that Matt at P&S protects this commie? Cannot even say a thing in any negative about Karl or else 
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Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG Though we may see the brigade show up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104428_Twitter_jpg-2697863.JPG Edit: let's keep it civil. If an account or 20 show up to stir the pot, just ignore them and keep to the discussion topic. Quoted: Quoted: @2gACM I'll post the questions here again since the last one got brigaded by your supporters. Do you think the state should have any involvement in preventing abuse of children? "That would obviously violate the rights of the child, they are not of the age of agreed upon consent." I thought you didn't like the state being involved? Who is the authority on the age of consent? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG Though we may see the brigade show up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104428_Twitter_jpg-2697863.JPG Edit: let's keep it civil. If an account or 20 show up to stir the pot, just ignore them and keep to the discussion topic. I wonder how Brownells feels about these tweets |
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Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG I don't think Karl (or Russel) should've been banned. That said, anyone who uses the term "hate speech" unironically is a fucking retard. This is the same guy that gets on the internet and bitches about YouTube banning gun content, but was practically cumming in his pants when Kiwi Farms got nuked. |
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I am not afraid to say I have very close friends in the LGBT+ community whom I would defend with my life. I judge them as people, which is what we are supposed to do as human beings. I hope that everyone would want the same thing, to leave each other in peace to have happy lives. I realize fringe folks and extremists believe otherwise, but they are not welcome here. I think most of us on this site believe that. The hate speech people claim to detest are words that have been in use for decades, but now are too harsh to be used. As a minority I learned that if you let words hurt you, you will want to fight the world. My family has been a target of racism for a long time and while it's not prevalent every day, it does not mean it does not exist. I simply choose to live and not cry about every ignorant moron who lives in a world of true hate. Words will never harm me and I wish people were strong enough to feel the same way. |
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Quoted: I don't think Karl (or Russel) should've been banned. That said, anyone who uses the term "hate speech" unironically is a fucking retard. This is the same guy that gets on the internet and bitches about YouTube banning gun content, but was practically cumming in his pants when Kiwi Farms got nuked. Quoted: Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG I don't think Karl (or Russel) should've been banned. That said, anyone who uses the term "hate speech" unironically is a fucking retard. This is the same guy that gets on the internet and bitches about YouTube banning gun content, but was practically cumming in his pants when Kiwi Farms got nuked. He posted a link to the previous thread last night to get it brigaded by the random 0 post users. https://twitter.com/InRangeTV/status/1621637033750925313 |
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Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG Though we may see the brigade show up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104428_Twitter_jpg-2697863.JPG . Shit. Talk like that might get him to be the next official Arfcom video guy like Bluefalcon/Chopinbloc |
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Quoted: @Sirveaux And those that started and continued the "Nyah! Commies" bullshit were tagged in the OP. We didnt police ourselves in that thread. Then again, not a single Mod did either. See, I think we can all agree with his statement that children should not be property of the state. I think we can all agree, for the most part that we shouldn't take kids to Rated R movies. Your follow-up questions, I would've liked to see answers to, but ---- had to do his stupid "Commie" schtick and tie up the board. I would also have liked t seen answers to someone else's follow up questions about him defining grooming because I thought Karl's response was pretty weak. I agree with your last to sentences, I'd only add that it isn't just "his allies" who wont let him say "no", it's also ego, pride, and hubris. Quoted: Quoted: He also spent a lot of time responding to knee jerk reactionary posters to mock them and ignoring people asking him to defend his stated beliefs or beliefs implied by actions. A bunch of "nyah! Commie!" back and forth accomplished little besides locking the thread. Your long series of thoughtful and direct questions was ignored. For his statement that he believes children not to be property of the state and that he wouldn't take children to an R rated movie as a parallel for drag shows for kids...well then why support armed ideologues making a violent show of force against their fellow citizenry for objecting to such? Drag queen militias aren't there keeping "the state" away, they're there to intimidate regular people who see adult men in womanface singing "lick me where I pee" as sexualing kids. The same people if they came armed to protect a parent's choice from public criticism to drag a 6 year old to see No Country For Old Men or Showgirls or Robocop 2 would also rightfully be seen as nuts. It's indefensible and I think he knows it, but he's painted himself into a corner with allies who won't let him say no. If he really didn't care, he would've not responded. He's smart enough to know that there are some inherent contradictions, but there's social pressure to prevent a break from his new "friends". @Sirveaux And those that started and continued the "Nyah! Commies" bullshit were tagged in the OP. We didnt police ourselves in that thread. Then again, not a single Mod did either. See, I think we can all agree with his statement that children should not be property of the state. I think we can all agree, for the most part that we shouldn't take kids to Rated R movies. Your follow-up questions, I would've liked to see answers to, but ---- had to do his stupid "Commie" schtick and tie up the board. I would also have liked t seen answers to someone else's follow up questions about him defining grooming because I thought Karl's response was pretty weak. I agree with your last to sentences, I'd only add that it isn't just "his allies" who wont let him say "no", it's also ego, pride, and hubris. Regardless anyone here egging him on or posting without thinking, that's where anyone with belief in their position would just ignore the noise. He engaged the knee jerk reactionary comments, which while not necessarily wrong (I understand the sentiment), aren't really productive, either. Engaging posters who were less careful with their etiquette was an easy way to shut down criticism and subsequently declare victory over "hate speech"...on a forum that is self-censoring and ruled by a code of conduct. As has been mentioned, kiwifarms this ain't. |
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Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG Though we may see the brigade show up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104428_Twitter_jpg-2697863.JPG Edit: let's keep it civil. If an account or 20 show up to stir the pot, just ignore them and keep to the discussion topic. Oh wow. I missed the thread last night, wish I hadn't |
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Quoted: Agreed. That’s some reddit tier safe space baby shit. Let them engage and defend their dogshit positions as long as they don’t violate the rules. Quoted: Quoted: I don't think Karl (or Russel) should've been banned. Agreed. That’s some reddit tier safe space baby shit. Let them engage and defend their dogshit positions as long as they don’t violate the rules. Pretty sus having an account from 2001 come out of the woodwork to defend him. |
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Quoted: Oh wow. I missed the thread last night, wish I hadn't Quoted: Quoted: I don't think he is going to respond. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104410_Twitter_jpg-2697862.JPG Though we may see the brigade show up https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/504436/SmartSelect_20230204_104428_Twitter_jpg-2697863.JPG Edit: let's keep it civil. If an account or 20 show up to stir the pot, just ignore them and keep to the discussion topic. Oh wow. I missed the thread last night, wish I hadn't Partnered with the site owners. But based on recent tweets, Karl seems to be making it easier for Brownells to sever that tie. |
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Quoted: Agreed. That's some reddit tier safe space baby shit. Let them engage and defend their dogshit positions as long as they don't violate the rules. Quoted: Quoted: I don't think Karl (or Russel) should've been banned. Agreed. That's some reddit tier safe space baby shit. Let them engage and defend their dogshit positions as long as they don't violate the rules. Karl was dancing the line with the name calling to say the least. I think I might have caught a ban for such behavior. Factor in that he is cool with killing people for their beliefs and the child drag shows, etc. I don't blame goat boy for the ban. I guess the necro accounts coming in the thread from out of nowhere didn't help the, either. |
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Quoted: That’s a charitable take. I hope it is the correct one. I completely understand the reactionary thinking as well. It’s fairly linear. Redeemed commies are the best commies. And internet is serious business, after all. If there were a handful of us having a discussion around a picnic table at a barbecue and someone just brought up the drag shows for kids support, he'd have a hard time trying to ramp up the volume just to distract from bad decisions or statements in the past, and then would have to defend his decisions. Or admit that it's inconsistent with his own beliefs. It's too bad he retreated to his safe space. Also too bad that at least for the time being he and Russell are locked. ETA: of course, there are probably things we as members don't see that staff does, so I could be wrong. |
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