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Link Posted: 4/19/2010 4:55:32 PM EDT
[#1]
What is happening in here?
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 4:58:43 PM EDT
[#2]
I have to agree with the OP on this one

So many want the SHTF, but dont think it through
It will be a nightmare, many will die, many more will die due
to lack of clean water, starvation, lack of medical etc.

It is not a pretty picture

Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:10:20 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Quoted:
That was a cowardly attack, fo time is about going after those responsible not the folks just like you and me who work for the government. Killing citizens and their children is not what will change things for the better. None of us want to see anything like that ever again.


If you believe you can get those people without getting some innocents in the cross fire, you're kidding yourself.



Collateral damage is inevitable. It isn't "ok", but it is inevitable.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:10:57 PM EDT
[#4]
IBTL
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:13:30 PM EDT
[#5]
Bullshit that has nothing to do with FO time.

Those fucksticks hit a soft target building full of unarmed people.

Trying to link a fictional FO time and what McVeigh did is stupid at best.

Lame attempt
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:15:06 PM EDT
[#6]
THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:

VOTE

Remember NOVEMBER.

WE are AMERICANS.

We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.

Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:16:22 PM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:34:43 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Pop the covers off the Pmags!   It's time to go!   Gather your forces and let's take charge

Click To View Spoiler


Fine, I'll bite.

If the choice is between giving a person's children a socialist shithole that no longer respects human rights, and their deaths, well, that's a choice that I hope no parent ever has to make. As someone without kids, however, I'm more than willing to FO, and yes, I believe it can be done without intentionally killing innocents. The second that innocents die is the second any cause, even one of liberty, is cheapened. If you're saying that yes, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that kids will die (which, realistically, in the scheme of armed insurrection is a damn near certainty, no matter how much it is avoided) then I hate to sound like the cold MF'er, but yeah, yeah, we'd still need to FO.

Timmy McAsswipe however, is not a patriot fighting for his ideals, he cheaply targeted a building that had non-combatants for almost no value other than to simple kill. Anyone who's serious about FO time doesn't give a damn about killing, that's not what our patriotism is about. It's about restoring our rights, and if it comes to violence, then sadly, we must take that path rather than be subjects. McVeigh could have done a thousand other criminal acts more honorable than the one he committed, I mean, for gods sake, he makes that IRS plane guy look like a master at selective targeting and he was a fuckin psycho too. McVeigh killed innocents. Even worse, he did it for no gainful reason. He didn't have a plan, he just wanted to lash out by killing people that worked for the govt. That's not what a revolution is about.

If it really hits FO time, then the real patriots should have a plan, should choose targets to avoid collateral damage, go after ones responsible for their grievances, and have a goal that said action accomplishes. If violent action fails to achieve a goal, congratulations, you now bear all the hallmark signs of a murdering scumbag. Violence is not some tool to go throwing around willy-nilly, it is a very fucking dangerous thing, because once its used, shit happens to people that cannot, ever, be undone. People die, people get mentally scarred for life, people get crippled for the rest of their years. If you think something is worth foing for, then you're saying you think its worth killing a man, crippling him so that he will never walk again, or taking his sight, or making him wake in a cold sweat for the rest of his life. His parents, children, wife, will all grieve for him or be burdened by taking care of him in his poor state. Think long and hard about that. I agree with you, OP, too many people here think it'd be nothing but James Bond and Red Dawn. But just because something is hard and painful, does not mean it should not be done, merely that one must exercise a far greater degree of caution in choosing to undertake such things.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:41:10 PM EDT
[#9]



Quoted:


Pop the covers off the Pmags!   It's time to go!   Gather your forces and let's take charge




Click To View Spoiler


Grow the fuck up!




 
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:43:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
out of


out of

Not very classy.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:44:08 PM EDT
[#11]
Lame is the safest word I have
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:44:27 PM EDT
[#12]
I would expect better of a life member.

Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:44:41 PM EDT
[#13]
Is the "Fo" word here a reference to that old thread about the guy that never came back to the discussion?

Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:45:38 PM EDT
[#14]



Quoted:


Is the "Fo" word here a reference to that old thread about the guy that never came back to the discussion?





Yep. fo=go



So go time=fo time.



FUCK IT IM FOING



 
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:46:02 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:

VOTE

Remember NOVEMBER.

WE are AMERICANS.

We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.



Hear, Hear!
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:48:47 PM EDT
[#16]
All I want to know is if you posted this in an attempt to compare that piece of shit McVeigh and associates in any way with ARFCOM or ARFCOMers?
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:50:27 PM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
All I want to know is if you posted this in an attempt to compare that piece of shit McVeigh and associates in any way with ARFCOM or ARFCOMers?


That piece of shit has more than a few defenders here.  You might not want to go there.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:50:38 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Is the "Fo" word here a reference to that old thread about the guy that never came back to the discussion?


Yep. fo=go

So go time=fo time.

FUCK IT IM FOING
 


I thought so.  
The OP spends too much time online is my only real thought about this thread.
Reminds me of those "Don't worry, I'm from the internet" pictures I see here from time to time.


Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:51:09 PM EDT
[#19]
Here we are waiting for shtf when it will  happen. It will not happen and there will be no go time . We are just going to site at the computer and bitch and moen and blog wearing our cammo and molle gear with our favorite rifle by our side and then we go to bed and start a new day of the same
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:51:55 PM EDT
[#20]



Quoted:



Quoted:

THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:



VOTE



Remember NOVEMBER.



WE are AMERICANS.



We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.








Hear, Hear!


and after the dems use amnesty to buy another 10 to 20 million votes? Preach to me then.



 
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:54:10 PM EDT
[#21]
It is FO time. Time to Fo to the kitchen and get some popcorn. I am so in on this one
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:54:51 PM EDT
[#22]



Quoted:


Here we are waiting for shtf when it will  happen. It will not happen and there will be no go time .


And I don't doubt that in 1775 there were people saying the exact same thing as you are now.



 
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:55:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Quoted:
Quoted:
All I want to know is if you posted this in an attempt to compare that piece of shit McVeigh and associates in any way with ARFCOM or ARFCOMers?


That piece of shit has more than a few defenders here.  You might not want to go there.


But I do, and I'm waiting.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:55:44 PM EDT
[#24]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:

VOTE

Remember NOVEMBER.

WE are AMERICANS.

We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.



Hear, Hear!

and after the dems use amnesty to buy another 10 to 20 million votes? Preach to me then.
 


I expected to see lowlifes pimping the bombing for a sleazy political point today but not Oklahomans. I take it you didn't personally know anyone in that building like some of us.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:58:10 PM EDT
[#25]




THIS!!

What a dumb thread.  
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 5:59:08 PM EDT
[#26]
I will continue to vote, write letters, support political activist groups etc

I will continue to pray to the God that I believe in that the above measures continue to affect the path this great country takes in a positive way

I will also continue to pray to that same God that IF and only IF those measures fail that I will have the wisdom to do what is right.  If that means taking some kind of action that i am not presently engaged in then I pray that I can do better than target some .gov workers and their children.  

What that idiot did made no more sense than if an opposing coach decided the way to win a football game was to go over and beat the shit out of the cheerleaders and waterboys for the opposing team.  It made 0 tactical sense and it can't be explained that he thought it was a good first step in overthrowing the government.

It was an act of hatred blinded by rage and fueled by (according to some reports) mind altering drugs.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:02:26 PM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Pop the covers off the Pmags!   It's time to go!   Gather your forces and let's take charge

Click To View Spoiler


Fine, I'll bite.

If the choice is between giving a person's children a socialist shithole that no longer respects human rights, and their deaths, well, that's a choice that I hope no parent ever has to make. As someone without kids, however, I'm more than willing to FO, and yes, I believe it can be done without intentionally killing innocents. The second that innocents die is the second any cause, even one of liberty, is cheapened. If you're saying that yes, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that kids will die (which, realistically, in the scheme of armed insurrection is a damn near certainty, no matter how much it is avoided) then I hate to sound like the cold MF'er, but yeah, yeah, we'd still need to FO.

Timmy McAsswipe however, is not a patriot fighting for his ideals, he cheaply targeted a building that had non-combatants for almost no value other than to simple kill. Anyone who's serious about FO time doesn't give a damn about killing, that's not what our patriotism is about. It's about restoring our rights, and if it comes to violence, then sadly, we must take that path rather than be subjects. McVeigh could have done a thousand other criminal acts more honorable than the one he committed, I mean, for gods sake, he makes that IRS plane guy look like a master at selective targeting and he was a fuckin psycho too. McVeigh killed innocents. Even worse, he did it for no gainful reason. He didn't have a plan, he just wanted to lash out by killing people that worked for the govt. That's not what a revolution is about.

If it really hits FO time, then the real patriots should have a plan, should choose targets to avoid collateral damage, go after ones responsible for their grievances, and have a goal that said action accomplishes. If violent action fails to achieve a goal, congratulations, you now bear all the hallmark signs of a murdering scumbag. Violence is not some tool to go throwing around willy-nilly, it is a very fucking dangerous thing, because once its used, shit happens to people that cannot, ever, be undone. People die, people get mentally scarred for life, people get crippled for the rest of their years. If you think something is worth foing for, then you're saying you think its worth killing a man, crippling him so that he will never walk again, or taking his sight, or making him wake in a cold sweat for the rest of his life. His parents, children, wife, will all grieve for him or be burdened by taking care of him in his poor state. Think long and hard about that. I agree with you, OP, too many people here think it'd be nothing but James Bond and Red Dawn. But just because something is hard and painful, does not mean it should not be done, merely that one must exercise a far greater degree of caution in choosing to undertake such things.


Well said sir.


Daniel
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:02:53 PM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
What is happening in here?




OP is a tool.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:10:52 PM EDT
[#29]
Quoted:
No one wants to Fo.....we know the cost of it.....but we need to be ready to when the time is right.

I truly do not believe it will be someone on our side who causes it....it will be the lib / progressives who start it and give us no choice.


Exactly.

I have ZERO to gain with FO time.

I can feed my family and I'm reasonably free to do as I want to.  

I would not be better off if there was a civil war/civil unrest.

But I'll be damned if I won't be ready for it if it comes.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:10:56 PM EDT
[#30]



Quoted:



Quoted:




Quoted:


Quoted:

THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:



VOTE



Remember NOVEMBER.



WE are AMERICANS.



We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.








Hear, Hear!


and after the dems use amnesty to buy another 10 to 20 million votes? Preach to me then.

 




I expected to see lowlifes pimping the bombing for a sleazy political point today but not Oklahomans. I take it you didn't personally know anyone in that building like some of us.


I am from Ohio, and you totally missed the point of my post. The two earlier posters were preaching to me about voting, which I do religiously. Once the voting pool is diluted to the point of denying real Americans the vote, then how do we consider that our only option?



 
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:16:36 PM EDT
[#31]




Quoted:



Quoted:



Quoted:

Pop the covers off the Pmags! It's time to go! Gather your forces and let's take charge





Click To View Spoiler




Fine, I'll bite.



If the choice is between giving a person's children a socialist shithole that no longer respects human rights, and their deaths, well, that's a choice that I hope no parent ever has to make. As someone without kids, however, I'm more than willing to FO, and yes, I believe it can be done without intentionally killing innocents. The second that innocents die is the second any cause, even one of liberty, is cheapened. If you're saying that yes, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that kids will die (which, realistically, in the scheme of armed insurrection is a damn near certainty, no matter how much it is avoided) then I hate to sound like the cold MF'er, but yeah, yeah, we'd still need to FO.



Timmy McAsswipe however, is not a patriot fighting for his ideals, he cheaply targeted a building that had non-combatants for almost no value other than to simple kill. Anyone who's serious about FO time doesn't give a damn about killing, that's not what our patriotism is about. It's about restoring our rights, and if it comes to violence, then sadly, we must take that path rather than be subjects. McVeigh could have done a thousand other criminal acts more honorable than the one he committed, I mean, for gods sake, he makes that IRS plane guy look like a master at selective targeting and he was a fuckin psycho too. McVeigh killed innocents. Even worse, he did it for no gainful reason. He didn't have a plan, he just wanted to lash out by killing people that worked for the govt. That's not what a revolution is about.



If it really hits FO time, then the real patriots should have a plan, should choose targets to avoid collateral damage, go after ones responsible for their grievances, and have a goal that said action accomplishes. If violent action fails to achieve a goal, congratulations, you now bear all the hallmark signs of a murdering scumbag. Violence is not some tool to go throwing around willy-nilly, it is a very fucking dangerous thing, because once its used, shit happens to people that cannot, ever, be undone. People die, people get mentally scarred for life, people get crippled for the rest of their years. If you think something is worth foing for, then you're saying you think its worth killing a man, crippling him so that he will never walk again, or taking his sight, or making him wake in a cold sweat for the rest of his life. His parents, children, wife, will all grieve for him or be burdened by taking care of him in his poor state. Think long and hard about that. I agree with you, OP, too many people here think it'd be nothing but James Bond and Red Dawn. But just because something is hard and painful, does not mean it should not be done, merely that one must exercise a far greater degree of caution in choosing to undertake such things.




Well said sir.





Daniel


+1

Link Posted: 4/19/2010 6:43:03 PM EDT
[#32]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
THIS from an Oklahoman who felt the blast and saw the horror:

VOTE

Remember NOVEMBER.

WE are AMERICANS.

We VOTE our way out of crap, just like we vote ourselves into crap.



Hear, Hear!

and after the dems use amnesty to buy another 10 to 20 million votes? Preach to me then.
 


I expected to see lowlifes pimping the bombing for a sleazy political point today but not Oklahomans. I take it you didn't personally know anyone in that building like some of us.


Sorry, I meant to quote the original post. My point is that "fo" time and the OKC bombing have nothing to do with one another. Imagine reading this stuff, knowing people who are screwed up from that blast, having fealt your own home shake from it, and then having Napolitino, who would consider most Oklahomans terrorists, in  your town pimping its memory.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:01:54 PM EDT
[#33]
WTF kind of shit is this? McVeigh was a cold blooded murderer who thought he would start the "Fo Time" in motion.

If Fo time ever comes it will not be because 1 person did something stupid
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:05:14 PM EDT
[#34]
You, sir,

Click To View Spoiler
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:14:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Your lack of response is all I need.

Fuck you OP, fuck you in your stretched out asshole.

And a life member goes on the ignore list.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:21:30 PM EDT
[#36]


this thread is.......
Click To View Spoiler



Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:50:52 PM EDT
[#37]
Quoted:

this thread is.......



Click To View Spoiler



That was like 20 clicks just to see that.

Speaking of fruit, apples to oranges, about the OP's comparison.

ETA: RileyS

Great Job!
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:53:09 PM EDT
[#38]
Quoted:
I would expect better of a life member.


This
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:54:41 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Pop the covers off the Pmags! It's time to go! Gather your forces and let's take charge

Click To View Spoiler


Fine, I'll bite.

If the choice is between giving a person's children a socialist shithole that no longer respects human rights, and their deaths, well, that's a choice that I hope no parent ever has to make. As someone without kids, however, I'm more than willing to FO, and yes, I believe it can be done without intentionally killing innocents. The second that innocents die is the second any cause, even one of liberty, is cheapened. If you're saying that yes, positively, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that kids will die (which, realistically, in the scheme of armed insurrection is a damn near certainty, no matter how much it is avoided) then I hate to sound like the cold MF'er, but yeah, yeah, we'd still need to FO.

Timmy McAsswipe however, is not a patriot fighting for his ideals, he cheaply targeted a building that had non-combatants for almost no value other than to simple kill. Anyone who's serious about FO time doesn't give a damn about killing, that's not what our patriotism is about. It's about restoring our rights, and if it comes to violence, then sadly, we must take that path rather than be subjects. McVeigh could have done a thousand other criminal acts more honorable than the one he committed, I mean, for gods sake, he makes that IRS plane guy look like a master at selective targeting and he was a fuckin psycho too. McVeigh killed innocents. Even worse, he did it for no gainful reason. He didn't have a plan, he just wanted to lash out by killing people that worked for the govt. That's not what a revolution is about.

If it really hits FO time, then the real patriots should have a plan, should choose targets to avoid collateral damage, go after ones responsible for their grievances, and have a goal that said action accomplishes. If violent action fails to achieve a goal, congratulations, you now bear all the hallmark signs of a murdering scumbag. Violence is not some tool to go throwing around willy-nilly, it is a very fucking dangerous thing, because once its used, shit happens to people that cannot, ever, be undone. People die, people get mentally scarred for life, people get crippled for the rest of their years. If you think something is worth foing for, then you're saying you think its worth killing a man, crippling him so that he will never walk again, or taking his sight, or making him wake in a cold sweat for the rest of his life. His parents, children, wife, will all grieve for him or be burdened by taking care of him in his poor state. Think long and hard about that. I agree with you, OP, too many people here think it'd be nothing but James Bond and Red Dawn. But just because something is hard and painful, does not mean it should not be done, merely that one must exercise a far greater degree of caution in choosing to undertake such things.


Well said sir.


Daniel

+1


+1
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 7:58:09 PM EDT
[#40]
We all FO or No Fo! Mo Fo!  Its fo da Fo, that we Fo.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 8:10:42 PM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
Quoted:
That was a cowardly attack, fo time is about going after those responsible not the folks just like you and me who work for the government. Killing citizens and their children is not what will change things for the better. None of us want to see anything like that ever again.


If you believe you can get those people without getting some innocents in the cross fire, you're kidding yourself.



Collateral damage will be unfortunately unavoidable when the real fo time comes. I pray I don't see that day.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 8:25:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Quoted:
FUCKING Lame.


fixed.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 8:29:07 PM EDT
[#43]
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:05:24 PM EDT
[#44]
You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.


Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:08:09 PM EDT
[#45]
This thread is fuuuuuuuuulllllllllllll of fail.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:13:22 PM EDT
[#46]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Wars are brutal things no doubt.  Maybe they just aren't worth fighting huh...

OP why don't you "FO" and stack your guns in front of the local sheriff's office and then park your ass on the couch.

Oh, I find your willingness to associate anyone who discusses the serious issues of this country to be a personal insult.


I never said that wars aren't worth fighting.  I'm stating they are messier than people think they are.  It's so easy to say FO without things in perspective.  If we ever get to that point, it'll come down to fighting in the same streets your kids play and ride their bikes on.




uhhh no. FO'ing would be using guerilla warfare and never letting people know what you are doing. FO'ing would disrupting media outlets that demonize what you are doing. FO'ing would be takign the battle to them, not on your streets.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:28:29 PM EDT
[#47]
Dick move on the part of the OP. Very DICK move.
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:49:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Very unclassy OP even for GD.



Ostracize please?
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:50:33 PM EDT
[#49]
How does someone get 12k post count before they out themselves as a liberal?
Link Posted: 4/19/2010 9:51:24 PM EDT
[#50]
Nv-Dave you got a familiar name just missing the _a, how does that make you feel.
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