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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:18:33 AM EDT
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We're all rapists, murderers, and welfare abusers according to GD.  That's a reaction by the right to the "poor me" dialogue that leftists have been pushing for the past 60 years. When over half of young black males are in prison you have to expect some criticism. For whatever it's worth I think you guys are okay. I sure wish that blacks would step back from the Democrats but given the current state of education in this country it's an unlikely hope at best. It does make me happy to see that there are conservative black Americans such as yourself out there. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:25:51 AM EDT
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Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look!
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:26:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't say there was a singular monolithic black culture, though I guess I can see how that may be inferred. Allow me to say, there is not a single monolithic culture for blacks, whites, or Americans for that matter That's not how culture works. However it cannot be ignored that there are certainly cultures that can be accurately described as both distinctly black/"afro" and distinctly American in origin as well as common practice. This is probably most notable in the American southeast. Being from coastal South Carolina, the Gullah language and culture are always the first thing that come to mind. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: ITT people (yeah, white people) will display ignorance on multiple levels. Is there Black American culture? Yes, there has been since the first Africans were brought over. As time goes on, parts of that culture are appropriated, rightfully or wrongfully, and/or adopted by the masses and thus become American culture. Then school me. What does black culture in America mean? What traditions and customs does a black banker in New York share with a black dock worker in Seattle? So far, the majority in this thread belive that rap music is black culture. So maybe they both like rap, but what else? What is this unifying culture from which all black Americans subscribe too? I didn't say there was a singular monolithic black culture, though I guess I can see how that may be inferred. Allow me to say, there is not a single monolithic culture for blacks, whites, or Americans for that matter That's not how culture works. However it cannot be ignored that there are certainly cultures that can be accurately described as both distinctly black/"afro" and distinctly American in origin as well as common practice. This is probably most notable in the American southeast. Being from coastal South Carolina, the Gullah language and culture are always the first thing that come to mind. See, now we might actually be cooking with gas. What is being portrayed by SJWs (and dudes here) is that there is a monolithic culture for black Americans and for whites. I'll freely admit to regional communities having their own cultures based on race and country of origin. Russians are extremely bad with this, especially newly emigrated ones. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:34:19 AM EDT
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I like how both sides are arguing with me.
One seems to think I'm trying to disparage, while the other thinks I'm trying to white Knight. <3 you GD. Stay gold. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:50:12 AM EDT
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I don't belive there is. What does a black guy in WA state share culturally with a black guy in Florida? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 7:51:41 AM EDT
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Thug life, I would suppose. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't belive there is. What does a black guy in WA state share culturally with a black guy in Florida? That don't count. He is talking about culture that you can find in any black community regardless of location or income level. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:00:43 AM EDT
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You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:04:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? Quote HistoryQuoted: [span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted: You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:10:39 AM EDT
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The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? Colonialism, and faction in it's aftermath is responsible for that. It took Europe from the end of the last ice age up until less than 600 years ago to form a culture technologically capable of taking over large swaths of the planet by the force of arms. China had the ability to do it 200 years before we did, and chose not to. What you are doing is expecting other cultures to adapt to something in a few generations when it took Europe 10,000 years. I f A group of people armed with muskets and cannon were to invade a empire like Rome, the Romans would have been wiped out. Just as the romans wiped out people due to their tech advantage. Cultural and technological advancement was dependent on a bunch of random shit in history. It was not the result of racial superiority. All of the groups of people who would later become colonial powers in Africa and asia got their asses handed to them by the Romans. They were used as chattel slaves and treated as beneath contempt for a thousand years until they finally destroyed Rome, and then it took the better part of another 800 years to reform society using the left overs from Roman times. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:15:43 AM EDT
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I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. Most American Irish immigrants are separated from Ireland by a couple hundred years too. I must be missing all the Irish ghettos attached to every major American city. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:16:28 AM EDT
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Are you joking!?
Of course there is. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:18:53 AM EDT
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yep. Go to any inner city. It is a culture like no other.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:22:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most American Irish immigrants are separated from Ireland by a couple hundred years too. I must be missing all the Irish ghettos attached to every major American city. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: [span style='font-weight: bold;']Quoted: You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. Most American Irish immigrants are separated from Ireland by a couple hundred years too. I must be missing all the Irish ghettos attached to every major American city. Wait. Are you being serious? Did you forget the whole 19th and early 20th centuries in America? ETA: Actually, the American Irish is basically what would have happened to Blacks if the left hadn't have meddled. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:23:13 AM EDT
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walk through an inner city in America and you will see it.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:23:15 AM EDT
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Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look! Dude that's everywhere you go. This isn't exactly a unique problem for the USA. People pretty much hate each other everywhere. If it isn't skin color it's another ethnic issue. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:25:03 AM EDT
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Dude that's everywhere you go. This isn't exactly a unique problem for the USA. People pretty much hate each other everywhere. If it isn't skin color it's another ethnic issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look! Dude that's everywhere you go. This isn't exactly a unique problem for the USA. People pretty much hate each other everywhere. If it isn't skin color it's another ethnic issue. or a poverty issue. the poor are always grasping at straws looking for a way to blame others for their situations. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:27:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: or a poverty issue. the poor are always grasping at straws looking for a way to blame others for their situations. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look! Dude that's everywhere you go. This isn't exactly a unique problem for the USA. People pretty much hate each other everywhere. If it isn't skin color it's another ethnic issue. or a poverty issue. the poor are always grasping at straws looking for a way to blame others for their situations. Welfare and crime go hand in hand IMO. When you are stuck on a fixed income, and don't know how or where to get a job. Crime becomes an attractive option. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:30:32 AM EDT
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............... Welfare and crime go hand in hand IMO. When you are stuck on a fixed income, and don't know how or where to get a job. Crime becomes an attractive option. I have a simple solution for you.........venture into the ghetto and tell the black people there that there is no black culture...........you will get your answer in very short order. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:32:00 AM EDT
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Is welfare a culture ?
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:32:42 AM EDT
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I personally believe that the issue has been primed to be too sensitive to rationally discuss. We've all been lead down this pathway of reactionary behavior because certain people don't want this issue to go away.
There is a lot of money to be made in chaos especially chaos that is controlled by a partial police state apparatus. This way investors can get a guaranteed return without worrying about a largely unpredictable result. What's going to be interesting is what will happen when they push too far and the lid blows off. At that point police and fiduciary lose importance, depending on how you look at it. This whole racism thing is a manufactured issue in the USA. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:32:55 AM EDT
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ibtl and the king of the teeners vacation lol
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:35:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is welfare a culture ? I think it can be argued that there is becoming a culture of welfare. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:36:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ibtl and the king of the teeners vacation lol Its an honest question, with no racist opinions or motives. If this was the thread that got me a vaca I would be pretty disappointed. I've done so much worse in this forum  |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:41:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a simple solution for you.........venture into the ghetto and tell the black people there that there is no black culture...........you will get your answer in very short order. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ............... Welfare and crime go hand in hand IMO. When you are stuck on a fixed income, and don't know how or where to get a job. Crime becomes an attractive option. I have a simple solution for you.........venture into the ghetto and tell the black people there that there is no black culture...........you will get your answer in very short order. Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:42:25 AM EDT
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West coast rap is the same as east coast rap, or hell even Florida rap? ETA:Atleast that's what I'm assuming you're referring too. Nah. Style of dress and rap sheet? That would be ghetto culture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't belive there is. What does a black guy in WA state share culturally with a black guy in Florida? Music, style of dress, rap sheet. West coast rap is the same as east coast rap, or hell even Florida rap? ETA:Atleast that's what I'm assuming you're referring too. Nah. Style of dress and rap sheet? That would be ghetto culture. Meh. Here in the dirty south it is different, dey take dey shirts off & twist it like a helicopter, shake it like a polaroid, and yell Hootie Hoo (who) when Poe-Poe hit da block. You won't see that up in NYC or LA. Plus down here we gone... 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:43:16 AM EDT
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.................. Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. Ok, you are young.............I should have said ANY black family.............the VAST majority will acknowledge there IS a black culture IMHO. Jesus Christ, I lived with them for decades for god's sake. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:43:56 AM EDT
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Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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............... Welfare and crime go hand in hand IMO. When you are stuck on a fixed income, and don't know how or where to get a job. Crime becomes an attractive option. I have a simple solution for you.........venture into the ghetto and tell the black people there that there is no black culture...........you will get your answer in very short order. Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. What is your point again? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:44:25 AM EDT
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Apparently all music is stolen form them during the American slave era, or so I've been told
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:45:24 AM EDT
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Wait. Are you being serious? Did you forget the whole 19th and early 20th centuries in America? ETA: Actually, the American Irish is basically what would have happened to Blacks if the left hadn't have meddled. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You don't think the lefts constant meddling has anything to do with where a good chunk of blacks and an ever growing amount of whites, are at? K. What does Africa have to do with blacks in America? When's the last time Ireland and it's struggles been brought up when discussing whites in America? Irrelevant. The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. Most American Irish immigrants are separated from Ireland by a couple hundred years too. I must be missing all the Irish ghettos attached to every major American city. Wait. Are you being serious? Did you forget the whole 19th and early 20th centuries in America? ETA: Actually, the American Irish is basically what would have happened to Blacks if the left hadn't have meddled. You might want to look at America now. No need to time travel. And I disagree completely about the American Irish premise. There are no literal shackles on anyone. The lefts plantation requires voluntary participation. There is a reason why it's magnet like attraction has an allure, today, to some and not others. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:46:46 AM EDT
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Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look! People are stupid all over? I've never heard that kind of talk from what I would consider intelligent people. I have heard it from idiots. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:47:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok, you are young.............I should have said ANY black family.............the VAST majority will acknowledge there IS a black culture IMHO. Jesus Christ, I lived with them for decades for god's sake. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .................. Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. Ok, you are young.............I should have said ANY black family.............the VAST majority will acknowledge there IS a black culture IMHO. Jesus Christ, I lived with them for decades for god's sake. I'm living in what most people here would consider the "ghetto". I see no behavior differences between races, or any unique culture. If they said there was, I'd like to hear there explanation. So far rap music is the best GD can come up with as an example of Black American culture. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:48:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your point again? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: ............... Welfare and crime go hand in hand IMO. When you are stuck on a fixed income, and don't know how or where to get a job. Crime becomes an attractive option. I have a simple solution for you.........venture into the ghetto and tell the black people there that there is no black culture...........you will get your answer in very short order. Why can't I go up to a middle class black household and ask them? The fact that you have to make them low income is proving my point for me. What is your point again? The point in the OP. There is no Black American culture that is shared from coast to coast. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:50:48 AM EDT
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.................. I'm living in what most people here would consider the "ghetto". I see no behavior differences between races, or any unique culture. If they said there was, I'd like to hear there explanation. So far rap music is the best GD can come up with as an example of Black American culture. Well maybe you haven't been there very long but we had slavery for centuries and Jim Crow for another 100 years after that.............how in the world could there NOT have been a black culture created under those circumstances? The black culture is centered on the very real cerebral black culture that developed from those many, many years of separation and segregation. And 50 years of living under the Civil Rights Act is not enough time to see that obliterated yet............maybe little by little over time but too early yet IMHO. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:52:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You might want to look at America now. No need to time travel. And I disagree completely about the American Irish premise. There are no literal shackles on anyone. The lefts plantation requires voluntary participation. There is a reason why it's magnet like attraction has an allure, today, to some and not others. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The left has most definitely created the "plantation of dependency". That's a part of it. Not all of it. The Africa example illustrates a very tough to refute "high" water mark that is a pattern that is impossible to ignore.....and no, colonialism is no more of an explanation of current affairs as slavery is in the US. The glaring, obvious difference between the CONTINENT of Africa and the NATION of Ireland, is that Ireland is a first world, prosperous, advanced society. By all measure, they've got their shit together. Africa (the ENTIRE continent) on the other hand is a universally, dysfunctional, unstable, violent, 3rd world pile of crap from one end to the other......and has been for many generations with zero signs of improvement. Did the left create that too? I'm not versed enough in African history to comment, and again is irrelevant as most black Americans are separated by the continent by hundreds of years. Most American Irish immigrants are separated from Ireland by a couple hundred years too. I must be missing all the Irish ghettos attached to every major American city. Wait. Are you being serious? Did you forget the whole 19th and early 20th centuries in America? ETA: Actually, the American Irish is basically what would have happened to Blacks if the left hadn't have meddled. You might want to look at America now. No need to time travel. And I disagree completely about the American Irish premise. There are no literal shackles on anyone. The lefts plantation requires voluntary participation. There is a reason why it's magnet like attraction has an allure, today, to some and not others. So if the Irish in America had been given special programs and as many social services as they could ever need after being upgraded from second class citizens, you think they would have turned out the same? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:53:07 AM EDT
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Sad fact is, even without out the whole black people commit all the crime,murder,rape, we would still be hated because we are black! That's just the way this country is and will remain, people would just find another reason to hate us if everyone of us was an upstanding citizen , oh look at that one, he too black, that one over there has a big ole nose, look at her weave , Jesus the size of her buttocks look look! Completely disagree. Virtually nobody is judging black people by the color of their skin, or ever would. It's universally recognized as insane to do so. If you were able to wave a magic wand and take away those negatives, I think you would find the open arms of the entire world waiting. Black people need to fix this. By themselves, and for themselves. No amount of external influence, money, or support will ever work. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:53:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well maybe you haven't been there very long but we had slavery for centuries and Jim Crow for another 100 years after that.............how in the world could there NOT have been a black culture created under those circumstances? The black culture is centered on the very real cerebral black culture that developed from those many, many years of separation and segregation. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: .................. I'm living in what most people here would consider the "ghetto". I see no behavior differences between races, or any unique culture. If they said there was, I'd like to hear there explanation. So far rap music is the best GD can come up with as an example of Black American culture. Well maybe you haven't been there very long but we had slavery for centuries and Jim Crow for another 100 years after that.............how in the world could there NOT have been a black culture created under those circumstances? The black culture is centered on the very real cerebral black culture that developed from those many, many years of separation and segregation. What does that culture entail? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:56:31 AM EDT
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............ What does that culture entail? Millions see themselves as still being outside of the mainstream. Many, many neighborhoods are still segregated for all intents and purposes..........you see different outward habits when it comes to music, religion practices, family structure where the woman is most often the head of the family (this came from slavery not the welfare system). You see differences in more boisterous behavior at social events versus the more subdued behavior at white events. Same for funerals, weddings, and many other social gatherings. You see a more basic distrust of authority, more suspicion of "outside" society..........in fact regarding society as "two pronged" is a clear sign that there is a separate black culture. I could go on, and on and on. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 8:59:57 AM EDT
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.................. I'm living in what most people here would consider the "ghetto". I see no behavior differences between races, or any unique culture. If they said there was, I'd like to hear there explanation. So far rap music is the best GD can come up with as an example of Black American culture. Well maybe you haven't been there very long but we had slavery for centuries and Jim Crow for another 100 years after that.............how in the world could there NOT have been a black culture created under those circumstances? The black culture is centered on the very real cerebral black culture that developed from those many, many years of separation and segregation. What does that culture entail? Religion, music, food, language, fashion and high art... |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:02:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Millions see themselves as still being outside of the mainstream. Many, many neighborhoods are still segregated for all intents and purposes..........you see different outward habits when it comes to music, religion practices, family structure where the woman is most often the head of the family (this came from slavery not the welfare system). You see differences in more boisterous behavior at social events versus the more subdued behavior at white events. Same for funerals, weddings, and many other social gatherings. You see a more basic distrust of authority, more suspicion of "outside" society..........in fact regarding society as "two pronged" is a clear sign that there is a separate black culture. I could go on, and on and on. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ............ What does that culture entail? Millions see themselves as still being outside of the mainstream. Many, many neighborhoods are still segregated for all intents and purposes..........you see different outward habits when it comes to music, religion practices, family structure where the woman is most often the head of the family (this came from slavery not the welfare system). You see differences in more boisterous behavior at social events versus the more subdued behavior at white events. Same for funerals, weddings, and many other social gatherings. You see a more basic distrust of authority, more suspicion of "outside" society..........in fact regarding society as "two pronged" is a clear sign that there is a separate black culture. I could go on, and on and on. See, this might actually be the first halfway convincing post ITT.  |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:03:45 AM EDT
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There once was and lest we forget, blacks gave us Jazz, Blues, the Charleston, artists like Josephine Baker, Louie Armstrong,Cab Calloway, Dizzy Gillispie and even break dancing. Modernly we have Winton Marsalas, Brandon Marsalas, Jessie Norman. Now its degenerate with rap, gangsta culture, pants down to the cheeks and other degenerate behavior.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:03:57 AM EDT
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And why do Blacks get credit for "Soul Food" when all it is is poor southern food. The same southern food the poor white folk were eating.
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:04:13 AM EDT
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The only real culture I have been able to notice, is a lot of the older ones are "devout" Baptists and may drag the son to church but then allow the son to buy them stuff with illegal gains or register the car they bought with the drug money under their own name. Then they pray on Sunday for them boys to stop doing wrong It really is baffling. And the insane names are found across the country Not saying this is all of them by far, but unfortunately the majority Oh and they ALL voted for OBAMA and the Democrats and most if not all, could not tell you a thing about them other than the D next to their name. This. >70% born out of wedlock but go to church three times a week. 
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:04:26 AM EDT
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................ See, this might actually be the first halfway convincing post ITT.
To be honest I don't blame them for having the view that they are separate culture but I would have hoped this would be changing more than it has. Maybe in a couple hundred more years we will be more of a "same" culture in the main..............heck, I don't know. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:06:23 AM EDT
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There is no black culture and there is no white culture.
There are those that are responsible and hard working and are good people and there are those that are irresponsible, FSA and are bad people. They come in both black and white. It has to do with upbringing and individual intellect on which path people choose. Unfortunately the democratic policies of free shit and rewarding irresponsible actions have created the current urban ghetto that breeds irresponsiblility and crime. Many escape it but many don't. We had urban ghettos before FDR free shit policies, but they were filled largely with whole families and responsible people. Since govt started rewarding irresponsible and criminal behavior we continue to get more of the same. At some point today's urban ghetto will collapse society, but it has nothing to do with black or white. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:09:05 AM EDT
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There is no black culture and there is no white culture. There are those that are responsible and hard working and are good people and there are those that are irresponsible, FSA and are bad people. They come in both black and white. It has to do with upbringing and individual intellect on which path people choose. Unfortunately the democratic policies of free shit and rewarding irresponsible actions have created the current urban ghetto that breeds irresponsiblility and crime. Many escape it but many don't. We had urban ghettos before FDR free shit policies, but they were filled largely with whole families and responsible people. Since govt started rewarding irresponsible and criminal behavior we continue to get more of the same. At some point today's urban ghetto will collapse society, but it has nothing to do with black or white. when you live in an poor area controlled by criminal gangs, you join or they will kill you. that is true everywhere. do you think Mexico or chicago is the way it is because a majority want it that way? Nope, it is that way because if you don't conform to the rules of the gangs, you will be met with violence. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:10:33 AM EDT
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The civil rights movement of the 60 was able equality and inclusion, now it is about exclusion and black pride and special treatment which is back to separating races and exclusion.
The govt is to blame for this. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:12:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: when you live in an poor area controlled by criminal gangs, you join or they will kill you. that is true everywhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There is no black culture and there is no white culture. There are those that are responsible and hard working and are good people and there are those that are irresponsible, FSA and are bad people. They come in both black and white. It has to do with upbringing and individual intellect on which path people choose. Unfortunately the democratic policies of free shit and rewarding irresponsible actions have created the current urban ghetto that breeds irresponsiblility and crime. Many escape it but many don't. We had urban ghettos before FDR free shit policies, but they were filled largely with whole families and responsible people. Since govt started rewarding irresponsible and criminal behavior we continue to get more of the same. At some point today's urban ghetto will collapse society, but it has nothing to do with black or white. when you live in an poor area controlled by criminal gangs, you join or they will kill you. that is true everywhere. That's only true in 3rd world level areas(of which we have a few in the states). My neighbor got hit 3 days in a row by the Marshal service. Bagged 3 on the first day, 2 on the second, and 1 on the last. They are mostly gang members. No one has tried to make me join shit. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:13:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The civil rights movement of the 60 was able equality and inclusion, now it is about exclusion and black pride and special treatment which is back to separating races and exclusion. The govt is to blame for this. You and me are singing the same tune. |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:13:39 AM EDT
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when you live in an poor area controlled by criminal gangs, you join or they will kill you. that is true everywhere. do you think Mexico or chicago is the way it is because a majority want it that way? Nope, it is that way because if you don't conform to the rules of the gangs, you will be met with violence. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is no black culture and there is no white culture. There are those that are responsible and hard working and are good people and there are those that are irresponsible, FSA and are bad people. They come in both black and white. It has to do with upbringing and individual intellect on which path people choose. Unfortunately the democratic policies of free shit and rewarding irresponsible actions have created the current urban ghetto that breeds irresponsiblility and crime. Many escape it but many don't. We had urban ghettos before FDR free shit policies, but they were filled largely with whole families and responsible people. Since govt started rewarding irresponsible and criminal behavior we continue to get more of the same. At some point today's urban ghetto will collapse society, but it has nothing to do with black or white. when you live in an poor area controlled by criminal gangs, you join or they will kill you. that is true everywhere. do you think Mexico or chicago is the way it is because a majority want it that way? Nope, it is that way because if you don't conform to the rules of the gangs, you will be met with violence. and why isn't there a war on gangs? why are gangs not delt with severely? I don't disagree with you. We have a govt that persecutes gun owners. Why do we have a govt that does not absolutely crack down on gangs? |
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Posted: 6/28/2016 9:14:47 AM EDT
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And why do Blacks get credit for "Soul Food" when all it is is poor southern food. The same southern food the poor white folk were eating. Because for whatever reason the poor white people still couldn't season it properly to save their fucking life. That was a joke but seriously, yall love some bland stuff.
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