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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:34:21 PM EDT
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Responsible for, or indicative of?
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:35:55 PM EDT
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Yay, time for another thread of people completely ignorant for the dynamics of Rap Culture as a whole.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:36:21 PM EDT
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War on Drugs made rap music.
Had a similar problem in the 20's-30's. We ended prohibition to counter it. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:37:12 PM EDT
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I would say the lack of husband/fathers that gives a shit is the real downfall of society. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:37:44 PM EDT
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Facebook and the Kardashians. Mainly Facebook.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Rap glorifies that. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:38:14 PM EDT
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Not even close
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:39:27 PM EDT
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ITT
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:41:07 PM EDT
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I had a friend that was gonna be a rapper. Signed up and everything. Got off the bus and quit like three days later. Rap school was too hard, yo.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:41:07 PM EDT
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I blame this douchebag. 
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:41:41 PM EDT
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Symptom of the culture of acceptance and tolerance born in the Hippie Movement, strengthened by the shackles of public assistance and general tolerance of thug behavior by a society that doesn't want to be bothered by culture that doesn't affect them directly day to day - even if the affection is not recognized.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:42:30 PM EDT
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Its part of the culture that is responsible for the downfall of America sure... But no, Rap music is not responsible for anything other than celebrating and promoting uncivilized behavior, that and vibrating rust of shitty cars with expensive rims...
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:43:28 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:43:41 PM EDT
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Symptom, not root cause. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:44:18 PM EDT
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False. Guns are an inanimate object which can only be wielded in the manner chosen by the person using it. Rap, and any other form of "art", is a vehicle for conveying ideas, values and language which have the power to influence others towards behaviors and beliefs. To Liberals, weapons cause violence, so they need to be blamed. That statement is inherently false, and it has been proven to be so. Jazz,Rock,Blues,Metal,Rap, Etc. cause violence/misogyny/rape/bad stuff, so it needs to be blamed. That statement is inherently false and has been proven to be so. In both cases, the inanimate object and the "art" form are not the cause. You have to look deeper into American Culture to see what the real root of the problem is, not a knee jerk reaction to put blame on someone or something. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:45:05 PM EDT
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Rap was not the first genre to do any of the things you listed.
 Yelawolf - American You (Official Music Video)  Hopsin - False Advertisement  Hopsin - ILL MIND OF HOPSIN 5 |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:45:28 PM EDT
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FPNI
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:45:38 PM EDT
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LOL no. We were on a downward spiral years, maybe decades, before rap even came into existence. Take your pick, mix-n-match, all or none, some or none. 1. Black migration from the rural south to the urban north. 2. Women working during WW2. 3. Counterculture (Hippies) of the 60's. 4. Sexual Revolution of the 60's. 5. Women's Lib. 6. Two income families. 7. Single parent families. 8. Narcissistic lifestyle of the 70's-80's. 9. Jazz, the Devil's Music. 10. The Rock and/or Roll of the 50's, 60's, 70's on. 11. Disco, Hip-Hop, Rap music of the 70's on up. 12. So-called "Separation of church and state". What else? |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:46:21 PM EDT
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FPNI
And not all rap is the same. The problem is people being coddled and protected from their actions. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:47:55 PM EDT
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Like Obama, it's more of a symptom then the disease. Why did white suburban youths seek to emulate ghetto culture?
Growing up in a low-middleclass neighborhood in the 1980s Amongst third-generation Irish and Italians; The last thing that anyone aspired to be was Black. Then there was Eddie Murphy and the Cosbys and Will Smith and Basketball, and Rap. And black was the coolest. And of course white kids adopted the worst parts of the culture. Rap is just the most visible example of the desperation and degeneracy that has overtaken at least half of our population. It spoke to the anger and hopelessness of a generation raised in the Cold War, where the odds were stacked against you, everything was illegal, and the cops were everywhere, just waiting for you to screw up. And if somehow you didn't screw up, (or didn't get caught) the taxman would be stopping by, to take half your shit. If you want to blame anybody you can blame Ze Germans. We are still living the aftermath of World War I. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:48:18 PM EDT
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I'm sure your Grandpa made the same exact statements about the flappers and gangsters of the 1920's. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:48:22 PM EDT
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it was the downfall of MTV(although Remote Control was the precursor)
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:50:43 PM EDT
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Rap has had a deleterious impact on American culture by; legitimizing fraud, canonizing violent criminals, exemplifying gang membership and degrading the American dialect of the English language by making the slang used by the least articulate and educated segments of society mainstream. What started as fun, dance themed poetry set to a musical beat at the end of the Disco Era has culminated in employers advertising for employees with the slogan "Get your side hustle on", where in the context of this usage the word "hustle" would most commonly mean to defraud or swindle. I blame rap for being the driving force behind the death of American culture. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:51:24 PM EDT
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https://www.blaetter.de/sites/default/files/images/ausgaben/2014/09/marcuse.jpg I blame this douchebag. Author of Eros and Civilization Started the Hippie movement. considered the godfather of the New Left. Integral part of the Frankfurt School. Originally recruited as one of the first philosophers of the Frankfurt school by Max Horkheimer. Political correctness- his brain child. Wrote the paper "repressive tolerance" |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:51:49 PM EDT
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WC Fields? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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https://www.blaetter.de/sites/default/files/images/ausgaben/2014/09/marcuse.jpg I blame this douchebag. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:51:51 PM EDT
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You are taking the statement too literal as I used the statement about firearms to parallel the mode of thinking. To Liberals, weapons cause violence, so they need to be blamed. That statement is inherently false, and it has been proven to be so. Jazz,Rock,Blues,Metal,Rap, Etc. cause violence/misogyny/rape/bad stuff, so it needs to be blamed. That statement is inherently false and has been proven to be so. In both cases, the inanimate object and the "art" form are not the cause. You have to look deeper into American Culture to see what the real root of the problem is, not a knee jerk reaction to put blame on someone or something. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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False. Guns are an inanimate object which can only be wielded in the manner chosen by the person using it. Rap, and any other form of "art", is a vehicle for conveying ideas, values and language which have the power to influence others towards behaviors and beliefs. To Liberals, weapons cause violence, so they need to be blamed. That statement is inherently false, and it has been proven to be so. Jazz,Rock,Blues,Metal,Rap, Etc. cause violence/misogyny/rape/bad stuff, so it needs to be blamed. That statement is inherently false and has been proven to be so. In both cases, the inanimate object and the "art" form are not the cause. You have to look deeper into American Culture to see what the real root of the problem is, not a knee jerk reaction to put blame on someone or something. There is also the difference between rap and other forms of musical art in that rappers often brag about coming from criminal street gang backgrounds and later becoming rappers. Rappers have also been involved in gang activities, including murder, after becoming rappers. Gangs, crime and violence are inseparable from rap. Metallica may sing about violence, but they have never participated in any actual violence. The rappers who have participated in violent crime are too numerous to recount. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:52:43 PM EDT
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I blame the dirty hippies and the death of 2 parent families.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:53:55 PM EDT
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I thought it was Elvis, The Beatles, or Ozzy Osborne.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 12:55:32 PM EDT
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I thought it was Elvis, The Beatles, or Ozzy Osborne. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:07:49 PM EDT
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I blame John Denver and all of his talk about pot needles.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:08:35 PM EDT
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Lucille Bogan - Shave 'Em Dry (1935)
 LUCILLE BOGAN - Shave 'Em Dry (1935) I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb
I got somethin' between my legs'll make a dead man come Oh daddy, baby won't you shave 'em dry? Now, draw it out! Want you to grind me baby, grind me until I cry Say I fucked all night, and all the night before baby And I feel just like I wanna, fuck some more Oh great God daddy Grind me honey and shave me dry And when you hear me holler baby, want you to shave it dry I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb Daddy you say that's the kind of 'em you want, and you can make 'em come Oh, daddy shave me dry And I'll give you somethin' baby, swear it'll make you cry I'm gon' turn back my mattress, and let you oil my springs I want you to grind me daddy, 'til the bell do ring Oh daddy, want you to shave 'em dry Oh great God daddy, if you can't shave 'em baby won't you try? Now if fuckin' was the thing, that would take me to heaven I'd be fuckin' in the studio, till the clock strike eleven Oh daddy, daddy shave 'em dry I would fuck you baby, honey I'd make you cry Now your nuts hang down like a damn bell sapper And your dick stands up like a steeple Your goddam ass-hole stands open like a church door And the crabs walks in like people Ow, shit! Ooh! Baby, won't you shave 'em dry A big sow gets fat from eatin' corn And a pig gets fat from suckin' Reason you see this whore, fat like I am Great God, I got fat from fuckin' Eeeeh! Shave 'em dry My back is made of whalebone And my cock is made of brass And my fuckin' is made for workin' men's two dollars Great God, round to kiss my ass Oh! Whoo, daddy, shave 'em dry |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:10:31 PM EDT
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Responsible? No. Contributor? Absolutely |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:12:16 PM EDT
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I knew we were done for once that Elvis boy started a-gyrating his hips like a negro 
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:13:04 PM EDT
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What makes you think we are in a downfall?
Old geezers throughout our country's history were saying we are in a downfall, but here we are. I think we are sitting pretty damn good as a culture. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:15:42 PM EDT
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What makes you think we are in a downfall? Old geezers throughout our country's history were saying we are in a downfall, but here we are. I think we are sitting pretty damn good as a culture. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:19:16 PM EDT
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Rap by itself, no.
It's one small piece of a disgusting culture that was allowed to metastasize into full-blown societal cancer. Rappers are  .
The minute I find out someone listens to rap they're blacklisted. I don't associate with degenerate scum. I'll deal with them if forced to due to circumstances (such as in a work environment) but on a "just business" basis only. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:30:55 PM EDT
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Lucille Bogan - Shave 'Em Dry (1935)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PhOWpdt6xg
I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb
I got somethin' between my legs'll make a dead man come Oh daddy, baby won't you shave 'em dry? Now, draw it out! Want you to grind me baby, grind me until I cry Say I fucked all night, and all the night before baby And I feel just like I wanna, fuck some more Oh great God daddy Grind me honey and shave me dry And when you hear me holler baby, want you to shave it dry I got nipples on my titties, big as the end of my thumb Daddy you say that's the kind of 'em you want, and you can make 'em come Oh, daddy shave me dry And I'll give you somethin' baby, swear it'll make you cry I'm gon' turn back my mattress, and let you oil my springs I want you to grind me daddy, 'til the bell do ring Oh daddy, want you to shave 'em dry Oh great God daddy, if you can't shave 'em baby won't you try? Now if fuckin' was the thing, that would take me to heaven I'd be fuckin' in the studio, till the clock strike eleven Oh daddy, daddy shave 'em dry I would fuck you baby, honey I'd make you cry Now your nuts hang down like a damn bell sapper And your dick stands up like a steeple Your goddam ass-hole stands open like a church door And the crabs walks in like people Ow, shit! Ooh! Baby, won't you shave 'em dry A big sow gets fat from eatin' corn And a pig gets fat from suckin' Reason you see this whore, fat like I am Great God, I got fat from fuckin' Eeeeh! Shave 'em dry My back is made of whalebone And my cock is made of brass And my fuckin' is made for workin' men's two dollars Great God, round to kiss my ass Oh! Whoo, daddy, shave 'em dry First off it is extremely obscure. I doubt that you could find five people out of a thousand who'd ever heard of her. Conversely, rap is extremely mainstream, to the point that day time television uses gangsta rap in advertisement, such as the new Bud Light commercial which uses a rap from Ice-T. Second, it is glorifying sex, which while being a theme of rap is not the sole theme of rap. Crime and violent crime are more problematic theme of rap which has been normalized by rap. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:31:38 PM EDT
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no. its fluoridation. chemicals in the water and maybe hormones and pesticides in fried chicken. 
I always thought it was Elvis' gyrating hips that caused the downfall of America. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:32:34 PM EDT
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rap no, thug culture yes.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:34:26 PM EDT
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rap no, thug culture yes. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:35:06 PM EDT
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FPNI!
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:35:18 PM EDT
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Jesus, go be old somewhere else. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:35:21 PM EDT
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That's definitely dirty, but it's not even close to what I am talking about. First off it is extremely obscure. I doubt that you could find five people out of a thousand who'd ever heard of her. Conversely, rap is extremely mainstream, to the point that day time television uses gangsta rap in advertisement, such as the new Bud Light commercial which uses a rap from Ice-T. Second, it is glorifying sex, which while being a theme of rap is not the sole theme of rap. Crime and violent crime are more problematic theme of rap which has been normalized by rap.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:36:38 PM EDT
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Are you white and listen to rap? If so then go be stupid somewhere else. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:36:49 PM EDT
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Regardless of where we fall on the "is rap crap?" debate, I think we can all agree that Fred Durst gargles balls.
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:38:49 PM EDT
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Look at who spends money buying the albums...
It's a bunch of white kids. Parents are the problem. Parents overall has sucked balls at raising children... Hence, a suck ass culture. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:42:17 PM EDT
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Rap has had a deleterious impact on American culture by; legitimizing fraud, canonizing violent criminals, exemplifying gang membership and degrading the American dialect of the English language by making the slang used by the least articulate and educated segments of society mainstream. What started as fun, dance themed poetry set to a musical beat at the end of the Disco Era has culminated in employers advertising for employees with the slogan "Get your side hustle on", where in the context of this usage the word "hustle" would most commonly mean to defraud or swindle. I blame rap for being the driving force behind the death of American culture. Are you sure it wasn't the devil's lettuce, Pops? Get back in your time machine and tell 1950 to leave us alone. I swear, it's like some of you are TRYING to hit all the crusty, out of touch, racist gun nut stereotypes. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:42:42 PM EDT
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Are the two not inseparably melded? |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:43:11 PM EDT
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Old school hip hop is great. It tackled all sorts of subjects and became an oral history of sorts for NYC and, later, other urban areas. You may not like it, and that's fine, but it used to be legit cultural music of urban America.
Modern rap is shit. Sorta how country music used to be about the experience of living in a mutual aid, agriculturally-based community, and now it's just millionaire hipsters in pre-ripped jeans singing trite lyrics about tractors and light beer. Money/commercialism ruined it. |
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Posted: 4/5/2017 1:44:11 PM EDT
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Rap has had a deleterious impact on American culture by; legitimizing fraud, canonizing violent criminals, exemplifying gang membership and degrading the American dialect of the English language by making the slang used by the least articulate and educated segments of society mainstream. What started as fun, dance themed poetry set to a musical beat at the end of the Disco Era has culminated in employers advertising for employees with the slogan "Get your side hustle on", where in the context of this usage the word "hustle" would most commonly mean to defraud or swindle. I blame rap for being the driving force behind the death of American culture. its the people who make money off of it and those whose minds and behavior are fashioned by it entertainment is the opiate of the masses |
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