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Link Posted: 2/27/2010 9:56:34 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
The guy is a putz.
Leaves his house without a gun during the fucking riots.
Leaves his wife home alone.
Wanders around during the riots.
Lets his wife talk him into leaving his gun at home.
Moves to fucking Australia.

Good riddance.


Here's how the story really played out:

13 year old airsofter writes a passage of unmitigated bullshit from his mom's basement.

13 year old airsofter masturbates like a spider monkey.

13 year old airsofter writes another passage of unmitigated bullshit.

13 year old airsofter masturbates like a spider monkey.

And so on...
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 9:57:08 PM EDT
[#2]
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 9:57:26 PM EDT
[#3]
huh?
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:04:17 PM EDT
[#4]
While it certainly sounds like the author is full of shit when it comes to what he actually did and experienced, I do feel he did a pretty decent job of capturing what the event felt like for those caught up in the chaos.

BTW, reading that makes me want to pull out the credit card and lay in some extra supplies. Bulkfoods.com has some powdered eggs, cheddar cheese powder, tomato powder and TVP for pretty decent prices (and $5 shipping if you order $75 or more worth of stuff). I'm in decent shape on my grains and beans. But I could use some extra stuff to go into long term storage.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:04:46 PM EDT
[#5]



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Good Lord. . .ok, I just started reading and a couple of things got me:



Pia Zadora, although a punch line as an actress, (but actually a pretty good singer) has never been known as a "soft core porn actress". . . second, these riots occurred in 1992. . .cell phones (or "mobiles" as he calls them) were NOT ubiquitous. . . .



I'm going to keep reading. . . but I'm suspicious. . .



ETA: ok, I skimmed all of it––––utter horseshit. . .


yup



he's full of shit imo
 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:09:45 PM EDT
[#6]
I lived in Burbank in '92. Worked at the Black Angus off of 5.

Not so much truth in the OP.




We were all watching the TV and tense, but everything seemed to be happening in 'the hood'...

Everything always happened in SC.



Worked with a lady whose husband was Beverly PD. They all got called in and worked roadblocks. Noone got in if they didn't live there. That's the way you do it.

I have to say though, it was the only time I've ever heard the Emergency Broadcast System come on and not be a test. Freaky stuff.



The waiting period back then was 15 days. No Walmarts in LA, they took Walmart to court to stop them. WM had just opened a store in Lancaster (high desert) in 90 or 91. First one in CA IIRC.



Bottom line - this isn't an indictment of society so much as a warning that certain parts of society were, are, and may always be, closer to uncivilized than others... take that how you want it, but there were no riots in Burbank or Beverly Hills.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:18:57 PM EDT
[#7]
The only people that would probably have some interesting stories to tell are the Korean store owners, but they zipped it pretty quick, probably out of fear of gang retaliation. As to the post riot repercussions, a complete turn around on gun control and a national demand for cell phones.


Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:24:10 PM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:
(If you've never been in a riot... you don't want to be. Civil unrest is scary shit.)

 





 


If I'm ever in a riot, chances are I'll be responding *to* the riot, with the Guard.



 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:25:07 PM EDT
[#9]
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In!

There were lots of guys trying to buy guns off people waiting in line because the gunshop owner had reminded them of the thirty day waiting periods they had voted for in referendum and told them they could apply for a permit but would not be taking a gun out of the shop.




I'm pretty sure the waiting period was 15 days, and I think it was enacted by the pols in the legislature.


It's 10 days and has been for a long time.


I remember hearing it was 15 in 1992.


My memory is of 15 days for handguns, 10 days for shotguns and rifles. It went to 10 days for handguns sometime in the mid '90s??

I hate getting old, the memory is the second thing to go, I think?


See my post on P1...   IME in Summer 1993 it was a 15 day wait for long guns and hand guns.  Regardless, it never was the 30 days the author mentions.


It's tough to find the waiting period history, but I found some dates. California had a 15 day waiting period for handguns starting in mid 70s. In 1990 it was extended to shotguns and rifles. Sometime between 94 and 97 it went to 10 days for all. So you are correct and I was thinking about the pre-1990 waiting periods.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:35:19 PM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
Cliff Notes!!!!

I'm not reading all thqt shit


Knowledge not earned is knowledge worth nothing.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:37:15 PM EDT
[#11]





Quoted:
Quoted:





(If you've never been in a riot... you don't want to be. Civil unrest is scary shit.)  



If I'm ever in a riot, chances are I'll be responding *to* the riot, with the Guard.


 



Better you than me, Dave.



 






Seriously though, I was on Eastern Parkway during the Crown Heights Riots (which were actually pretty tame, by riot standards) and it was pretty intense.







(Of course, being out of the police academy only 4 months or so didn't help.)







The thing I remember most was feeling that, if things really kicked off, just about anything could happen... and a six shot .38 and a couple of speed loaders weren't going to be any help at all.







Like I said, the best way to deal with a riot is to not be in it. Unfortunately, that wouldn't be an option for you.



 
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:40:56 PM EDT
[#12]
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Loads of embellishing and inaccuracies. I lived in L.A. during the riots.

1) He mentions his residence was at the corner of Sunset Blvd and Martin. If someone can find a street called Martin that intersects Sunset, please let me know because I can't find it anywhere in the area he describes.

2) 30 day waiting period at the gun store... my experience from this time period tells me there was a 15 day waiting period on all firearms purchases in state of California (summer 1993... 15 day wait to get a .22 bolt action )

3) He talks about a big box Walmart store within walking distance of his residence on Sunset... I never even saw a Wal-Mart in the L.A. area before the mid 90s, and certainly not in the Hollywood/Beverly Hills area he is talking about.

I could go on, but you get the picture. I call BS, but his message is not without its merits.

I lived in the LA area during those riots as well.  The above is spot on.  I call BS.


Yup, the story is pretty much BS. The riots were very wide spread but concentrated mostly in or near the "bad" neighborhoods. The waiting period was 15 days for handguns but I think that it changed to 10 days sometime mid 90's and it was 1 day or same day for long guns and shotguns. I had purchased a shotgun and a rifle just a few years prior, 89' I believe, and walked out with them that same day.

I remember the verdict day vividly. I was on vacation from college that day, "lucky"!, and I kept hearing police cars racing down the back streets towards the college. It wasn’t just a couple cars but it seemed every single cop car Alhambra PD had was heading to the over pass and 710/Valley Blvd. A quick flip of the TV, and I was suddenly racing to my bedroom to load up everything I had at the time.

One of the first flash points of the 92 riots was at Cal State LA and after burning a few cop cars and a guard shack, the rioters tried marching down into Alhambra just across the 710 freeway. Well luckily, APD set up an armed blockade across most the main roads from East LA into Alhambra and sent them back. It must have sucked for all of the students that lived in Alhambra or Monterey Park, they could not get home that way anymore and had to traverse back through East LA in the middle of a riot.  

Also, if you happened to show up at a gun store during the middle of the riots, you might get a gun pointed at you. We took a drive to a gun store in Pasadena shortly after the riots ended and were surprised to see all of the front windows were shot out and boarded up. They told us of a very scary gun fight during the peak of the riots with a group of “homies” looking to stock up on stolen guns.

My best friend works down near Florence and Normandy. His business was only a couple blocks away. Luckily they cut the day short when the verdicts were announced and lucky that his business is inside an old brick firehouse. He and his dad would have been massacred if they would have been driving down those streets after 5pm.

The only real stories from the riot that even come close to this fable are from my Korean friends. It was every bit as intense and crazy as the YouTube videos show them to be. Lots of shots fired, burning buildings and lots of scumbag looters. You could be barricaded on top of a mini mall with the building next to you burning down and no one would come to help or put out the flames. The only businesses that survived the riots were the ones with ordinary Korean American citizens defending them.

Some Videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=1bEG2AMaM7w&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=xVB9qARy06E&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=zlNUlpqT-F0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=9_gXrKlD1WI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=xTT4GY3AWsw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=vx-8R2juK3A&feature=related

Nice 80's hairdos in these
http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=nkM_bqCD0Ts&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=mmzGDXj2-BU&feature=related

Link Posted: 2/27/2010 10:59:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I thought it was pretty well written, except for the embellishment, exaggeration and outright bullshit   He needs a good proof reader, stat.

The Trotsky character was just too much.  The diolog was forced and the coincidences were implausible.   Caltrops?   WTF.  

Beaning a Mexican in the face with a  60 ounce-100 mph jar of babyfood?   Yeah, that didn't happen, homey.

The other glaring errors have already been motioned.  It could have been a great story, with just a little attention to detail.

The author is one of those annoying little compulsive liars.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 11:47:21 PM EDT
[#14]
Arfcom just came in it's collective pants.
Link Posted: 2/27/2010 11:48:53 PM EDT
[#15]
Y'all bust yer asses making him out to be a liar.

He probably is.

BFD.

I watched them cave Denny's head in on live TV, I watched them drag a couple out of a green car and they started beating them, and then the TV cut away, I watched the Orientals waging a greatly outnumbered firefight, dumping mags with no cops or anybody else showing up to stop it, and this guy has the tone of what went down dead on. That shit was cracking for three days, and then they all went to sleep it off and that was about when I FIRST saw any authority of ANY kind moving into where the shit was happening.

You bust your ass concentrating on whether he has his details straight or not, I'll be focusing on where his tactical and strategic errors were, and maybe we'll have a good laugh about it on the other side, and maybe your head will meet a fire extinguisher at 45 mph, and you'll bleed out in the middle of a big intersection while a chopper records it for your widow and kids to watch.

You got your priorities, and I got mine.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 12:18:43 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Y'all bust yer asses making him out to be a liar.

He probably is.

BFD.

I watched them cave Denny's head in on live TV, I watched them drag a couple out of a green car and they started beating them, and then the TV cut away, I watched the Orientals waging a greatly outnumbered firefight, dumping mags with no cops or anybody else showing up to stop it, and this guy has the tone of what went down dead on. That shit was cracking for three days, and then they all went to sleep it off and that was about when I FIRST saw any authority of ANY kind moving into where the shit was happening.

You bust your ass concentrating on whether he has his details straight or not, I'll be focusing on where his tactical and strategic errors were, and maybe we'll have a good laugh about it on the other side, and maybe your head will meet a fire extinguisher at 45 mph, and you'll bleed out in the middle of a big intersection while a chopper records it for your widow and kids to watch.

You got your priorities, and I got mine.


I don't see anyone here saying that you shouldn't prepare for civil unrest or that the LA riots were not very bad.  Most people here probably masturbate to the thought of that.

If you want to watch video or read accounts, there are plenty of interesting ones out there that aren't bullshit.

Your mileage may very, but I don't see any benefits coming from the story posted.  If it generates discussion and turns up some real interesting stories, then that is another matter.  For now, the author deserves all the scorn and derision we can heap upon him.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 12:41:14 AM EDT
[#17]

   Certain things just did not add up.

  203 caliber rifle?

  Shotgun behind a water heater?

 Heck I recieved several call from different relatives living in Los Angeles asking to loan my guns to them .  I told them no.  I'm not going there.  Needless to say they were armed a few months after the riot.

I did keep my .357 revolver with me at all times even though I was far, far away from Los Angeles.  There were rumors that a riot may start up by my area.  Which in a way I'm glad was just a rumor.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 12:58:53 AM EDT
[#18]
The story was an absolute fabrication.



I trust the knowledge base of resident Arfcommers enough to know that when many people say things don't jive with the geography, etc... it's a lie.




BUT - I understand what the message was supposed to be.




My riot plan, is to GTFO.




I'll go camping for a few days, and hope I have a home left when we come back.







Link Posted: 2/28/2010 1:15:52 AM EDT
[#19]
It was a fun story.....
a total bullshit fabrication, but fun to read none-the-less!

I think the writer is possibly spreading this story around in hopes of a book or movie deal if it catches internet-fire!

.... and on the .0000001% chance that the ending was true, have fun in Australia asshole!
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 1:21:40 AM EDT
[#20]
OST for later
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 1:40:04 AM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
I just wasted an hour reading this bullshit. I love how the last post was almost an advertisement for Australia. No conservative gun enthusiast would even concider moving to Australia.



This. Horrendously embellished.

My experience: I was a senior in high school, living in Ventura County during the riots. Ventura County is next to L.A. County, just north of the San Fernando Valley. There was some fear that the suburbs would also become involved, but as far as I know, it didn't happen. Back then I would drive down to L.A. just about every weekend to go to underground warehouse parties. Riots or not, we still did our thing, myself driving and a couple of my equally situational-awareness-blind friends. Besides having to avoid the National Guard intersections and a brief run-in with an LAPD cop in panic mode while I was trying to illegally park outside an underground after-hours club (Flammable Liquid), I was physically unaffected by the riots. Mentally, being near to the situation did change my perspective, more afterwards than during the actual events. In hindsight I was pretty ignorant/foolish to be out at night, driving around downtown and west L.A. I now live in Free America, California, great place to visit, wouldn't want to live there.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 1:43:26 AM EDT
[#22]
Quoted:
James Wesley, Rawles is jealous.



I see, what you did there.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 1:59:58 AM EDT
[#23]
While it may be a hugely embellished story, I agree with the overall point:

Society is only 15 minutes away from utter chaos at any given time. The riots have proven this, Katrina has proven this, and many other events around the world have proven this.

It's not a question of IF, but of WHEN.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:34:44 AM EDT
[#24]
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:39:45 AM EDT
[#25]




Quoted:

haha he almost had me until the barbed wire


He lost me at "Desert Eagle".



Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:41:01 AM EDT
[#26]
Quoted:
In!

There were lots of guys trying to buy guns off people waiting in line because the gunshop owner had reminded them of the thirty day waiting periods they had voted for in referendum and told them they could apply for a permit but would not be taking a gun out of the shop.


WTF? This is news to me. It's 10 days and AFAIK, there have been no referendums WRT guns in California. I will have to verify that, but I don't think the author is correct.

There were crowds bigger than Bible epics filling the parking lots of the all mega stores on La Cienega and they were stealing everything that was not tied down. Anybody watching the news could see the majority of all of them were the new mexican enrichers, not "poor downtrodden disaffected blacks." These guys who were operating leaf blowers for the wealthy the day before were taking advantage of the chaos to show their true colors and were running rampant as animals once they knew the law was not going to show up. They were systematically stripping every single retailer to the west shoreline of anything bigger than a thumbtack - and they were doing it brazenly right in front of television cameras hovering overhead off helicopters.


Yes, no wants wants to talk about this, but the majority of the looting was done by the local Mexicans, legal or otherwise. But they're here just to help, right?



I was here then, and remember the coverage. It was at least 80% hispanic's looting. Funny how things died down on welfare day, remember that?
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:42:52 AM EDT
[#27]
Quoted:
Glad I don't live in the PRK.

True, I live near Memphis...but I am fairly sure rioters would have..."issues" operating around here.



Oh, the poor, hard working store owners took matters into their own hands when the police pulled out. Mass amounts of Asians shooting from the rooftops.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:44:12 AM EDT
[#28]
Quoted:
I was in LA for the 92 riots. I walked around a corner into a riotgun pointed into my face by a policeman in full riot gear. And I wasn't even that close to the worst of it.


But according to the author, all the cops were sitting in their stations saying, "Someone should do something."


Cops were sending a message. They refused to go in and stop it.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:45:33 AM EDT
[#29]
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Y'all bust yer asses making him out to be a liar.

He probably is.

BFD.

I watched them cave Denny's head in on live TV, I watched them drag a couple out of a green car and they started beating them, and then the TV cut away, I watched the Orientals waging a greatly outnumbered firefight, dumping mags with no cops or anybody else showing up to stop it, and this guy has the tone of what went down dead on. That shit was cracking for three days, and then they all went to sleep it off and that was about when I FIRST saw any authority of ANY kind moving into where the shit was happening.

You bust your ass concentrating on whether he has his details straight or not, I'll be focusing on where his tactical and strategic errors were, and maybe we'll have a good laugh about it on the other side, and maybe your head will meet a fire extinguisher at 45 mph, and you'll bleed out in the middle of a big intersection while a chopper records it for your widow and kids to watch.

You got your priorities, and I got mine.


I don't see anyone here saying that you shouldn't prepare for civil unrest or that the LA riots were not very bad.  Most people here probably masturbate to the thought of that.

If you want to watch video or read accounts, there are plenty of interesting ones out there that aren't bullshit.

Your mileage may very, but I don't see any benefits coming from the story posted.  If it generates discussion and turns up some real interesting stories, then that is another matter.  For now, the author deserves all the scorn and derision we can heap upon him.


Heap scorn and derision all you want.

I'm making a list.

1. Riots within 10 miles of my home and I'm wearing armor and pot, and vest, plus rifle and sidearm, 24/7.

2. Rest is a weapon. He disarmed himself.

3. Rather than string barbed wire, I'm digging successive positions with cover.

4. No need to go to the store, and honey-do can make the trip herself if she just has to have fresh milk.

5. If by some wild ass miracle i did find myself in a public place, Joe Clerk is on his own, period. I'm not getting paid to kick thugs out of Joe Owner's store, Joe Clerk ain't getting paid to kick thugs out of Joe Owner's store, and picking fights with scum, unarmed and outnumbered, over (absentee) somebody else's insured property when a passel of them are burning buildings just down the street is a fool's move.

6. During any period of civil unrest, any person lighting any bottles within 200 feet of my home is taking rounds till they leave, stop or drop.

7. During civil unrest, anyone in my AO wants to eat from my stash, they pack a weapon and cover my six, period.

8. During civil unrest, any strangers congregating within visual range will hear snapping noises and see dirt flying until they leave or come closer, if the latter, they take rounds till the perceived threat is negated.

9. No fucking idea what he might have been doing with wire and nails, but I'd spend that time filling trash bags with dirt and stacking them on the roof. A covered position inside the house to sleep in wouldn't be a bad idea either. Willy Smith can sleep in the tub if he likes, but I'm too tall, and my tubs are made of fiberglass.

10. If Joe Cop objects to my toting a rifle around on my roof, I will be more than happy to spend the week in his jail sharing his donuts. Assuming he has the sack to actually land nearby and cuff me, of course.

11. Any riots within 20 miles of me and you won't find me at a resteraunt, or anywhere else outside my home and property. Unarmed? Sure...right.

12. When I'm sleeping, the others in my AO rotate manning an OP, or scanning the news, or both, waking me up when they should, or they leave my AO, period.

13. Rioters generally moving my direction, at a distance of my choosing, will be engaged from cover until they change direction, or catch and kill me. I reserve the right to protect my home and family from mobs already burning and looting, REGARDLESS of subsequent cost.

14. Rather than zombie out glued to the boob tube, I'm taking very low profile patrols on the hour. I want to know what's out there, what direction it's moving, how many, capabilities, etc.

15. Somewhere in there I'll be in contact with all my neighbors, and they will either join up a well executed neighborhood defense, or...burn alone should it come to that.

That'll do for starters. I consider my time on this post better spent than your time on yours.

Best of luck to you, sport.



Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:46:47 AM EDT
[#30]
I hate you so won't quote you


The National Guard finally arrived, way too late to make any difference. Curfew was maintained for weeks, martial law and tanks on street corners. The real purpose of the military presence was to force whites and blacks to go back to pretending to like each other, that multiculturalism actually worked and that there was not a race war of apocalyptic proportions brewing everywhere and anywhere in the near future. It was all about maintaining appearances.
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Bull fucking shit...

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+1
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 2:49:06 AM EDT
[#31]
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What people forget is the policy of the police was to contain rioters. To keep them in LA proper and out of the nice burbs to the west and north east. This is all they did for the first few days and it allowed the scumbag rioters and looters to get away with anything they wanted. And remember, the majority of looters were Mexicans. They saw a chance to get one over on the man and they took it. They had no beef with the cops then like the Blacks said they did.

At the time I was thinking good for the Koreans. I hope they killed hundreds of the scumbags.


My thoughts as well, as the 24/7 coverage on local TV went on and on...
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 3:14:04 AM EDT
[#32]
I was young at the time, but I remember the riots. Didn't wholly understand the racial implications of what was happening, but I knew it was a dangerous time to be in South Central or LA in general for that matter. I still went to school every morning in Monterey Park (about 10 miles from Downtown LA), so it wasn't crazy bad.

But yeah, this story reeks of hyperbolic bullshit laced with a couch commando's masturbatory fantasy. However, he gets a good point across and it was decent enough fiction to keep me entertained for a few minutes.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 3:29:19 AM EDT
[#33]
Quoted:
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Y'all bust yer asses making him out to be a liar.

He probably is.

BFD.

I watched them cave Denny's head in on live TV, I watched them drag a couple out of a green car and they started beating them, and then the TV cut away, I watched the Orientals waging a greatly outnumbered firefight, dumping mags with no cops or anybody else showing up to stop it, and this guy has the tone of what went down dead on. That shit was cracking for three days, and then they all went to sleep it off and that was about when I FIRST saw any authority of ANY kind moving into where the shit was happening.

You bust your ass concentrating on whether he has his details straight or not, I'll be focusing on where his tactical and strategic errors were, and maybe we'll have a good laugh about it on the other side, and maybe your head will meet a fire extinguisher at 45 mph, and you'll bleed out in the middle of a big intersection while a chopper records it for your widow and kids to watch.

You got your priorities, and I got mine.


I don't see anyone here saying that you shouldn't prepare for civil unrest or that the LA riots were not very bad.  Most people here probably masturbate to the thought of that.

If you want to watch video or read accounts, there are plenty of interesting ones out there that aren't bullshit.

Your mileage may very, but I don't see any benefits coming from the story posted.  If it generates discussion and turns up some real interesting stories, then that is another matter.  For now, the author deserves all the scorn and derision we can heap upon him.


Heap scorn and derision all you want.

I'm making a list.

1. Riots within 10 miles of my home and I'm wearing armor and pot, and vest, plus rifle and sidearm, 24/7.

2. Rest is a weapon. He disarmed himself.

3. Rather than string barbed wire, I'm digging successive positions with cover.

4. No need to go to the store, and honey-do can make the trip herself if she just has to have fresh milk.

5. If by some wild ass miracle i did find myself in a public place, Joe Clerk is on his own, period. I'm not getting paid to kick thugs out of Joe Owner's store, Joe Clerk ain't getting paid to kick thugs out of Joe Owner's store, and picking fights with scum, unarmed and outnumbered, over (absentee) somebody else's insured property when a passel of them are burning buildings just down the street is a fool's move.

6. During any period of civil unrest, any person lighting any bottles within 200 feet of my home is taking rounds till they leave, stop or drop.

7. During civil unrest, anyone in my AO wants to eat from my stash, they pack a weapon and cover my six, period.

8. During civil unrest, any strangers congregating within visual range will hear snapping noises and see dirt flying until they leave or come closer, if the latter, they take rounds till the perceived threat is negated.

9. No fucking idea what he might have been doing with wire and nails, but I'd spend that time filling trash bags with dirt and stacking them on the roof. A covered position inside the house to sleep in wouldn't be a bad idea either. Willy Smith can sleep in the tub if he likes, but I'm too tall, and my tubs are made of fiberglass.

10. If Joe Cop objects to my toting a rifle around on my roof, I will be more than happy to spend the week in his jail sharing his donuts. Assuming he has the sack to actually land nearby and cuff me, of course.

11. Any riots within 20 miles of me and you won't find me at a resteraunt, or anywhere else outside my home and property. Unarmed? Sure...right.

12. When I'm sleeping, the others in my AO rotate manning an OP, or scanning the news, or both, waking me up when they should, or they leave my AO, period.

13. Rioters generally moving my direction, at a distance of my choosing, will be engaged from cover until they change direction, or catch and kill me. I reserve the right to protect my home and family from mobs already burning and looting, REGARDLESS of subsequent cost.

14. Rather than zombie out glued to the boob tube, I'm taking very low profile patrols on the hour. I want to know what's out there, what direction it's moving, how many, capabilities, etc.

15. Somewhere in there I'll be in contact with all my neighbors, and they will either join up a well executed neighborhood defense, or...burn alone should it come to that.

That'll do for starters. I consider my time on this post better spent than your time on yours.

Best of luck to you, sport.





That's, like, nice and junk.

Of course, you had started preparing and planning long before this post was made and knew all of that before you read that lengthy pack of lies, so what did you gain from reading it?

Some of us aren't going to broadcast our preparations and planning.  You know what they say about assumptions.

You should rethink some of that, though. While I agree with the "one problem at a time" approach, you will be held responsible for any rounds you touch off after the mess is over.  Plan your use of force contingencies ahead of time and plan them carefully.  If you need to shoot to warn, you need to shoot to kill, so don't use warning shots.  Maybe secure some CS grenades to disperse strangers without putting rounds into the air.  

Also, while I'm an advocate of active patrolling and probing as a first line of defense, you want to be careful about sneaking around an urban or suburban area with a rifle during a period of civil unrest.  Joe cop doesn't care who you are or what you're doing, and while he might not go into the inner city to keep the creatures from burning their habitat, he and his coworkers will swarm a man with a gun in a peaceful area outside or near the cordon.  They will be hyped up and ready to roll, and you will give them an excuse.  Low profile is the way to go.  A fight you avoid is a fight you've won.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:20:07 AM EDT
[#34]
I remember they tried to start some riots in Atlanta after it started in California................it lasted a few hours but was extinguished pretty quick
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:39:22 AM EDT
[#35]
I was thinking that the veneer of society is not really thin as these riots make it look. Not every segment of society fights and burns and loots and kills because of something that they don't like such as the outcome of a trial. A lot of things have happened that I as well as most everyone that I know don't like yet I never have seen the need to riot arise over it.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:43:24 AM EDT
[#36]
Bunch of mall-ninja fantasy BS there...
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:52:47 AM EDT
[#37]
Entertaining Sunday morning read. Don't have the time or the inclination to fact check. Lots of things don't pass the smell test but the overall intent of the story was worthwhile.

By the way... good luck with that DEagle in Australia.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:56:23 AM EDT
[#38]
I lived in North Long Beach when this happened.
I worked at LAX and commuted right through the middle of this shit.

Lots of interesting shit went down.

Lots.


Chris


BTW,there are ton of inconsistencies in his story...
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 4:59:08 AM EDT
[#39]
Tag for later.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 5:26:57 AM EDT
[#40]

The rabid leftist across the street, a guy with a little goatee like
Trotsky and an earring, came over and offered me a blank check if I
would loan him my .22 pistol for the duration of the riots. He said his
girlfriend was so scared she had been unable to sleep and he wanted it
to give her a feeling of security. About two weeks beforehand, this guy
had given me a long smug lecture about the evils of guns in private
hands. I gave him the cold shoulder and told him to go up the street to
the gunshop if he needed a gun. He said, "They've got a ninety day
waiting period! I already tried!" I told him "You're s**t out of luck,
then, I guess. Can you even appreciate the irony? That is called being
hoisted by your own petard." It was true. The guy didn't appreciate the
irony. He was a creature of emotion and now felt fear, maybe for the
first time in his pathetic life. Ah, the utter blindness to
self-knowledge of the liberal mind.




Priceless.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 5:45:29 AM EDT
[#41]
Quoted:
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Also realized as I was finishing the article and seeing some of the replies on the originating site that he's in Australia - not a lot of other folks with first hand experience.

If you can filter out the embellishments it's not a bad reminder that we're not that far from Hobbes' "nasty, brutish and short' existence - it seems many folks are kept in check by the threat of law, rather than the force of their own ethics.


That is the takeaway from the story. Tall tales or not, the people with regular contact with all aspects of society (usually Police & EMS, Fire to a slightly lesser but equally important extent) understand what is out there. And it ain't pretty and you never see (or smell) it on TV.

The other thing to contemplate is the current generation was sired by that era - and have grown up without much (if any) discipline. No folks from the old days around (or strong enough) to rein em in or counsel them on what is appropriate behavior in society.


This is true.... It is very ugly!

And with that... Whatever is coming down the pike for this country next is going to play out VERY ugly!


Link Posted: 2/28/2010 5:51:12 AM EDT
[#42]
I stopped reading at heavily armed private police force.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 5:55:19 AM EDT
[#43]
Quoted:
It will happen again.  Give it some time.


- BG


Of this you can be sure.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:21:15 AM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
I call BS as well. Mobile phones were still somewhat rare in 1992.  


And laptop computers.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:22:33 AM EDT
[#45]
BS or not, the one thing to remember is that the Cops/AR/NG are not going to protect you as an indivigual. That is up to you. No Govt entity is tasked to protect you or your property and thats the plain fact.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:23:37 AM EDT
[#46]
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Yeah , there's a pretty good account of what happened when the guy ran the roadblock and tried to run down a marine..........ended up in a full auto burst to the car, killing the driver.  


The part about full auto I would question....   We had A2s.... 3 round burst  No full auto....


I'd have to say most Guard units probably had A1s. Just 2 years earlier, plenty of active army troops went through Desert Storm with A1s.
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:25:44 AM EDT
[#47]
Quoted:


He references "I Am Legend"(2007)  But claims the account of events were scribed in 2004.




I Am Legend (novel written in 1954.)
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:27:08 AM EDT
[#48]
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In!

There were lots of guys trying to buy guns off people waiting in line because the gunshop owner had reminded them of the thirty day waiting periods they had voted for in referendum and told them they could apply for a permit but would not be taking a gun out of the shop.




I'm pretty sure the waiting period was 15 days, and I think it was enacted by the pols in the legislature.


It's 10 days and has been for a long time.


I remember hearing it was 15 in 1992.


Okay, I was wrong. It was 15 days for handguns back then. The law changed to 10 days in 1997.

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Time_Line_of_California_Firearms_Laws#Firearms_purchase_waiting_periods
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:30:30 AM EDT
[#49]
Do Mexicans actually use the word "arse"? Why do the Mexicans sound Jamaican?
Link Posted: 2/28/2010 6:45:48 AM EDT
[#50]
Listen....I believe the guy...every story has a note of truth in it.



Walmart being in Los Angeles, that I got....most likely it was another store.




I think the guy experienced it but his memory is shaky and not perfect. That I get....it happens to the best of us.




I know everyone is not going to REMEMBER every word every details in their life.




Seriously guys......get a fucken hard on and stop making it out that everything is total bullshit.







30 days 15 days ....that was wrong but I know some folks..WHO NEVER GOT THE FUCKEN CALL from the gun shop that their rifle is ready to pick up....so it did end up being one month.




BB guns in North Hollywood did this alot......fucken waiting and calling and waiting and calling and then OH we found it in the stack..it's ready to pick up.




martin B did the same thing and so did this gun shop I remember in Olympic going to Beverly.



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