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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:43:58 PM EDT
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I would love to hear the profanity coming from that group of dudes. It's German. They could be inviting each other over for a cook out and it would sound like they were ready to hate fuck each other to death. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:45:06 PM EDT
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A friend's father came over the wall in 1954. When the wall came down he was able to go back and visit long lost relatives.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:47:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at that illegal immigrant.  She's probably going to sue the West Germans for making her kneel like that. Prolly headed straight to the nearest gov't welfare office as soon as she got up too. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:48:41 PM EDT
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Why are those fascist imperial dogs keeping that sweet innocent girl from returning to the socialist workers paradise of the G.D.R.?
Look that they have beaten her down to her knees and are making her beg for her life! Her country men are only there with their Russian "burp guns" to ensure she can "freely return". Of course it would suck to be her family, as they would shortly be forced off to "reeducation" for not informing on her plans to defect with "valuable state secrets" I'm sure the powers that be in the G.D.R. are thinking.... "Hummm... Maybe we could build a big wall to protect our innocent citizens against being kidnapped by those fascist bastards!"... B.T,W. Fuck Communism & Fuck the Democratic Party (they being one and the same) |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:49:40 PM EDT
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I'd like to think they're were East Germans who just put on a show for their superiors. Then again it's probably just as likely to end up in a gulag if you under performed.
Does anyone have any good book suggestions on the Iron curtain? |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:49:58 PM EDT
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I think that may be an Stg 44. Stasi issued them, IIRC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome picture: outnumbered,outgunned and fuck you Commies Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I think that may be an Stg 44. Stasi issued them, IIRC. I think you are correct. It was later for the Germans to get AK's. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:52:04 PM EDT
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Pistols appear to be Luger P-08's?
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:53:42 PM EDT
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I'd like to think they're were East Germans who just put on a show for their superiors. Then again it's probably just as likely to end up in a gulag if you under performed.
Does anyone have any good book suggestions on the Iron curtain? this book might be close enough! |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:53:50 PM EDT
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Incredible picture.
That old eastie cat looks like he's about to make a mad dash at her......my caption is. "On your mark, get set......" |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:56:21 PM EDT
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Pistols appear to be Luger P-08's? P-38's I think. It'd make more sense for the timeframe. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 1:58:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:02:30 PM EDT
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Wonder what happened to that girl. . . still alive?
Memo to self: sucks to lose a war that you started and get invaded by an enemy that is hell-bent on retribution. . . . and knows how to get it.  |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:07:02 PM EDT
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Just imagine joint maneuvers with the East Germans and the Red Army in the late '50s/early '60s with field and senior officers who'd probably fought against each other in the '40s. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:17:04 PM EDT
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Fuck communism.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:21:18 PM EDT
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Awesome picture: outnumbered,outgunned and fuck you Commies Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Well stated. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:24:04 PM EDT
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My wife and I just watched "Night Crossing" a few weeks ago. Really helps me appreciate the freedoms we enjoy.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:28:42 PM EDT
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'Hans I vill fuck you up! You know zis!" Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. 
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:34:03 PM EDT
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story?
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:40:29 PM EDT
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story? I'd like to know as well. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:51:56 PM EDT
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2 of them have pistols out, and they have formed a 3 person human chain to block the street. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome picture: outnumbered,outgunned and fuck you Commies Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 2 of them have pistols out, and they have formed a 3 person human chain to block the street. Yep. Fucking badass. 
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:57:44 PM EDT
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Those guys don't look particularly young. What are the odds that they wore the same uniform a decade prior? Mind blowing, isn't it?
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Posted: 7/23/2013 2:59:00 PM EDT
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Wow, that's a heavy pic. Makes me feel very proud and fortunate to live in a free country. The US isn't perfect, but it's about as close as it comes.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:01:46 PM EDT
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Here is another defection pic I wonder if he was thinking "don't get your foot caught on the barbed wire" over and over again.
 ETA> The first East-German border guard to to defect to the West three days after the erection of the Berlin Wall. Aug. 15, 1961 |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:05:23 PM EDT
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What brave policemen. Outgunned, outnumbered and they still stand their ground. Germans (most of them, anyway) have this *thing* about communists. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:11:54 PM EDT
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And fuck communists. In the neck. With a broken bottle. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Fuck communism. And fuck communists. In the neck. With a broken bottle. I love it when you talk sexy!! 
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:16:19 PM EDT
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Type 2 FSB: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aeByDUlTXb0/TWjM66dmy8I/AAAAAAAAAxw/Dn9YuibCQBo/s1600/AK-47-type2.jpg Unfortunately, the straight front, angled rear is the same on the Type 2 and the STG. The hood on the STG that covers the front sight post is a little larger and more bulbous, but it's really hard to see at this angle. I'm going with AK based on the hole in the FSB. I'm not aware of any STGs with that feature. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Front Sight Base doesn't look triangular enough to me. But with his hand over the Gas Tube, it's hard to tell either way. Type 2 FSB: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aeByDUlTXb0/TWjM66dmy8I/AAAAAAAAAxw/Dn9YuibCQBo/s1600/AK-47-type2.jpg Unfortunately, the straight front, angled rear is the same on the Type 2 and the STG. The hood on the STG that covers the front sight post is a little larger and more bulbous, but it's really hard to see at this angle. I'm going with AK based on the hole in the FSB. I'm not aware of any STGs with that feature. Sling attachment point is consistent with AK47 as well. Where is the sling attachment point on the STG? |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:20:29 PM EDT
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Sling attachment point is consistent with AK47 as well. Where is the sling attachment point on the STG? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Front Sight Base doesn't look triangular enough to me. But with his hand over the Gas Tube, it's hard to tell either way. Type 2 FSB: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aeByDUlTXb0/TWjM66dmy8I/AAAAAAAAAxw/Dn9YuibCQBo/s1600/AK-47-type2.jpg Unfortunately, the straight front, angled rear is the same on the Type 2 and the STG. The hood on the STG that covers the front sight post is a little larger and more bulbous, but it's really hard to see at this angle. I'm going with AK based on the hole in the FSB. I'm not aware of any STGs with that feature. Sling attachment point is consistent with AK47 as well. Where is the sling attachment point on the STG? Looking at the picture blown up, it looks like what appears to be an underfolding stock in the folded position. I am pretty sure it is an AK. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:21:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck communism. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:28:26 PM EDT
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I'd like to think they're were East Germans who just put on a show for their superiors. Then again it's probably just as likely to end up in a gulag if you under performed.
Does anyone have any good book suggestions on the Iron curtain? It's sad that being born in 79, and living through the end of the Cold War, I was taught nothing of the division of Germany or how we transitioned from WWII to the Cold War. Everything I do know, not much btw, I learned from a West German classmate in junior high and arfcom. Why did all of my history classes ignore this stuff? Kinda makes you think about buying another roll of foil. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:28:27 PM EDT
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Looking at the picture blown up, it looks like what appears to be an underfolding stock in the folded position. I am pretty sure it is an AK. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Front Sight Base doesn't look triangular enough to me. But with his hand over the Gas Tube, it's hard to tell either way. Type 2 FSB: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aeByDUlTXb0/TWjM66dmy8I/AAAAAAAAAxw/Dn9YuibCQBo/s1600/AK-47-type2.jpg Unfortunately, the straight front, angled rear is the same on the Type 2 and the STG. The hood on the STG that covers the front sight post is a little larger and more bulbous, but it's really hard to see at this angle. I'm going with AK based on the hole in the FSB. I'm not aware of any STGs with that feature. Sling attachment point is consistent with AK47 as well. Where is the sling attachment point on the STG? Looking at the picture blown up, it looks like what appears to be an underfolding stock in the folded position. I am pretty sure it is an AK. If all the above is true, then isn't the picture from 1956 or later? My understanding is that the first pictures and samples of the AK-47 came out during the 1956 Hungarian Revolution? |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:32:54 PM EDT
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You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. The West German hats are strange, but what is up with commie dress hats? They look similar to their western counterparts, but the crown? has a much larger diameter. Looks really odd to me. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:48:52 PM EDT
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The West German hats are strange, but what is up with commie dress hats? They look similar to their western counterparts, but the crown? has a much larger diameter. Looks really odd to me. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. The West German hats are strange, but what is up with commie dress hats? They look similar to their western counterparts, but the crown? has a much larger diameter. Looks really odd to me. Don't know, but it remains a distinctive feature in former Soviet countries. The commies liked comically oversized hats. 
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:53:55 PM EDT
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How many people escaped from the West to the East? I am sure there was a lot...I mean modern American progressives always talk about how great communism is..I am sure people that were that physically close to it were pining for the opportunity to live in that utopia. well they built a really big wall to stop it so you know the government wasn't happy about it. I would imagine it was more than a couple. They had E.G. border guards saying FU!!!! too.... |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:54:56 PM EDT
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Don't know, but it remains a distinctive feature in former Soviet countries. The commies liked comically oversized hats. http://s2.cncworld.tv/images/photo/20110901/1314846228486.jpg http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/166036590-military-parade-on-victory-day-karakol-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QdfYBZQwQpoNww4yCiTMLF6lwJyxZdo0g6gNBQZCS%2BcpkdwH5r%2Fi0wno04eYDjoXjg%3D%3D Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. The West German hats are strange, but what is up with commie dress hats? They look similar to their western counterparts, but the crown? has a much larger diameter. Looks really odd to me. Don't know, but it remains a distinctive feature in former Soviet countries. The commies liked comically oversized hats. http://s2.cncworld.tv/images/photo/20110901/1314846228486.jpg http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/166036590-military-parade-on-victory-day-karakol-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QdfYBZQwQpoNww4yCiTMLF6lwJyxZdo0g6gNBQZCS%2BcpkdwH5r%2Fi0wno04eYDjoXjg%3D%3D Their typically small stature just make it more ridiculous. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:58:10 PM EDT
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My first thought. Three dudes with pistols against more dudes with rifles. Balls. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Awesome picture: outnumbered,outgunned and fuck you Commies Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile My first thought. Three dudes with pistols against more dudes with rifles. Balls. PPsHs. freakin' hey. Any one of 'em with one coulda zipped through all 4 of 'em in 2 seconds. |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 3:59:40 PM EDT
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A few months after the wall came down I walked from what had been West Berlin to East Berlin. It was like going from a color to a black and white movie.
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Posted: 7/23/2013 4:01:12 PM EDT
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Those guys don't look particularly young. What are the odds that they wore the same uniform a decade prior? It would probably smell pretty bad. 
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Posted: 7/23/2013 4:53:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder what happened to that girl. . . still alive? |
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Posted: 7/23/2013 6:08:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wonder what happened to that girl. . . still alive? I tossed the pic into tinyeye and this came back.  http://www.amazon.de/Berlin-Kalten-Krieg-Kampf-geteilte/dp/3814801628/ref=zg_bs_15778361_51 |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 5:13:42 AM EDT
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You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I always wonder is there were many guys who had served together in Nazi Germany and then ended up in the military or police on opposite sides of that city just a few short years later. Those German cops look like they're ready to hand out an ass whuppin despite being outnumbered and outgunned You wear that hat for a few days, see if you aren't looking for an excuse to de-tooth a volk or two. Yeesh. Post-war haberdashery. The police shako was around long before the war as well. They probally just removed the Nazi eagle insignia from the hats they are wearing. . |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 6:55:59 AM EDT
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that picture speaks a thousand words, should be hung in every classroom!
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:01:20 AM EDT
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How many people have ever risked their very lives to get into a communist country? Kill a commie for mommie. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:10:59 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:11:29 AM EDT
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How many people have ever risked their very lives to get into a communist country? Kill a commie for mommie. According to many here, millions. According to many here, that woman left one Communist country and entered another. "Communist" has grown in use here more than "fascist" at DU. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:12:58 AM EDT
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If there is one thing Germans do well, it is obey rules to the letter. Burn 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:24:24 AM EDT
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Show this picture to a few of today's communist apologists. See what they say. But it's different, because this is America. It could never happen here. 
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:31:10 AM EDT
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What men'll do for a blonde....  And a German blonde too. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:33:58 AM EDT
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It's sad that being born in 79, and living through the end of the Cold War, I was taught nothing of the division of Germany or how we transitioned from WWII to the Cold War. Everything I do know, not much btw, I learned from a West German classmate in junior high and arfcom. Why did all of my history classes ignore this stuff? Kinda makes you think about buying another roll of foil. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'd like to think they're were East Germans who just put on a show for their superiors. Then again it's probably just as likely to end up in a gulag if you under performed.
Does anyone have any good book suggestions on the Iron curtain? It's sad that being born in 79, and living through the end of the Cold War, I was taught nothing of the division of Germany or how we transitioned from WWII to the Cold War. Everything I do know, not much btw, I learned from a West German classmate in junior high and arfcom. Why did all of my history classes ignore this stuff? Kinda makes you think about buying another roll of foil. Amazing. I was born just a few years before you and was intimately aware of the Cold War going on in my youth. |
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:35:26 AM EDT
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Wow.. that is an interesting picture!
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Posted: 7/24/2013 7:36:25 AM EDT
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Here is another defection pic I wonder if he was thinking "don't get your foot caught on the barbed wire" over and over again. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb1aito7BV1ruhu7eo1_500.jpg ETA> The first East-German border guard to to defect to the West three days after the erection of the Berlin Wall. Aug. 15, 1961 That's my favorite picture of the era... A little history about this picture: On 15 August 1961, Schumann was sent to the corner of Ruppiner Straße and Bernauer Straße to guard the Berlin Wall on its third day of construction. At that time, the wall was only a low barbed wire fence. From the other side, West Germans shouted to him, "Komm' rüber!" ("Come over!"), and a police car pulled up to wait for him. Schumann jumped over the barbed wire fence and was promptly driven away from the scene by the West Berlin police. West German photographer Peter Leibing photographed Schumann's escape. His picture has since become an iconic image of the Cold War era. The scene, including Schumann's preparations, has also been filmed on 16-mm film from the same perspective. Schumann was later permitted to travel from West Berlin to the main territory of West Germany, where he settled in Bavaria. He met his wife Kunigunde in the town of Günzburg. Sadly, he commited suicide in June of 1998 due to a terrible bout of depression... 
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