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6/3/2020 12:15:06 PM EDT
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I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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Maybe we’d have nicer things to say about him if he wasn’t out flogging racist SJW talking points.

And his hair cut doesn’t help him any
6/3/2020 12:16:30 PM EDT
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don’t see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn’t approved I will assume it’s because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html



I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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Slow down there Hoss.  You don't get to retroactively dish out infractions for people "being rude" to non-members the second they join.

Is there anything gayer than sack-riding white knights?

I don't think so.
6/3/2020 12:17:14 PM EDT
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don't see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn't approved I will assume it's because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html



I've known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He's an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don't agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don't see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn't approved I will assume it's because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html

Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.

You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. This rule also includes posting disparaging remarks about a member's family.


I've known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He's an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don't agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
Except for satan.  No problem with that authority.
6/3/2020 12:17:14 PM EDT
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Maybe we’d have nicer things to say about him if he wasn’t out flogging racist SJW talking points.

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You guys call him a communist SJW
Leftists on other forums call him a Nazi.

You’re all wrong.  
6/3/2020 12:18:44 PM EDT
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Ive never trusted Karl.

Fucking satanist


THE SATANIST ARE USING D&D TO CONVERT OUR CHILDREN!
Strawman.

What does d&d have to do with karls satanism?
6/3/2020 12:18:57 PM EDT
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My understanding is they’re hardcore atheists that use it as a tool to lobby for separation of church and state.

Not my bag and not a fight that I care about either way.
6/3/2020 12:20:16 PM EDT
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You guys call him a communist SJW
Leftists on other forums call him a Nazi.

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Honestly there’s not much difference between the 2... SJW and nazi ideologies are remarkably similar

Maybe we’re both right?

I’m thinking  “between a SJW and a Nazi: the story of Karl” can be the name of his memoirs
6/3/2020 12:20:52 PM EDT
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What does d&d have to do with karls satanism?
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What does satanism have to do with anything.

Oh no big scary devil worshippers lmao

Watch out, they might drink red wine  labeled as blood and have an orgy, how evil.
6/3/2020 12:21:57 PM EDT
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This. Ian and Karl have a winning recipe for gun vids and a lot of it comes from the fact they are a refreshing break from the manipulative political shitshow.  It would be a shame to throw that away.
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I think people just wanted it to not even be brought up. Stay apolitical like Forgotten Weapons. There's no need to comment on every current event, just stick with gun videos.


This. Ian and Karl have a winning recipe for gun vids and a lot of it comes from the fact they are a refreshing break from the manipulative political shitshow.  It would be a shame to throw that away.
I have zero problem with Ian's 100% apolitical aspect of the show.    We would be a better place if all the companies did that.
6/3/2020 12:22:08 PM EDT
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ya he's been on my shit list since he vacuumed up all the logins and passwords of members with that script he was playing with.
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6/3/2020 12:23:11 PM EDT
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You guys call him a communist SJW
Leftists on other forums call him a Nazi.

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Parroting SJW talking points makes you an SJW.

You know the old saying about walking and quacking like a duck?  It is true.
6/3/2020 12:25:10 PM EDT
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What does satanism have to do with anything.

Oh no big scary devil worshippers lmao

Watch out, they might drink red wine  labeled as blood and have an orgy, how evil.
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What does d&d have to do with karls satanism?

What does satanism have to do with anything.

Oh no big scary devil worshippers lmao

Watch out, they might drink red wine  labeled as blood and have an orgy, how evil.
I tend to not trust people that worship the devil.



6/3/2020 12:25:40 PM EDT
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I tend not to trust people that worship anything.
6/3/2020 12:25:53 PM EDT
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Well, he's not real so..........
6/3/2020 12:26:46 PM EDT
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don’t see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn’t approved I will assume it’s because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html



I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don’t see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn’t approved I will assume it’s because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html

Attacking or insulting a member in an effort to elicit a negative response.

You have the right to disagree, but please do so in a respectful manner. This rule also includes posting disparaging remarks about a member's family.


I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.


Well, since you’ve known him for 15 years would you mind enlightening us on this disgusting display of white guilt?
6/3/2020 12:29:47 PM EDT
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They're atheist. They don't worship the devil; they don't believe he exists.
6/3/2020 12:35:16 PM EDT
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I have to agree with outofbattery on this one, although Forgotten Weapons has some good content.


Also, this thread is full of posts from obvious troll accounts - someone should send up the bat signal.
6/3/2020 12:35:25 PM EDT
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Double tap
6/3/2020 12:36:14 PM EDT
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My understanding is they're hardcore atheists that use it as a tool to lobby for separation of church and state.

Not my bag and not a fight that I care about either way.


Let's run with either of these, assuming either is 100% true:

One would speak to his values - as placing importance on the literal embodiment of evil is...well insane

The other would speak to his character- as purposefully antagonizing otherwise well meaning religious beliefs that founded the country is...well insane.

As always, the truth probably lay somewhere in the middle

This is peoples frustration with the Satanist thing, since it seems to be a sticking point. I've already stated I personally don't give a shit about it. Technoculture/Infosec people are all fucking weird. You live with it.

What I did care about was my money being sent to people who parrot SJW Propaganda. I certainly think the content is "worth a dollar" based on my previous contribution - but I am not gonna pay to be preached to. I don't buy Gillette razors after the stunt they pulled - what should set Karl apart?


6/3/2020 12:38:24 PM EDT
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I have crab juice and absinthe....

EEEEEEEWW.... I'll take the crab juice

6/3/2020 12:40:07 PM EDT
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Let's run with either of these, assuming either is 100% true:

One would speak to his values - as placing importance on the literal embodiment of evil is...well insane

The other would speak to his character- as purposefully antagonizing otherwise well meaning religious beliefs that founded the country is...well insane.

As always, the truth probably lay somewhere in the middle

This is peoples frustration with the Satanist thing, since it seems to be a sticking point. I've already stated I personally don't give a shit about it. Technoculture/Infosec people are all fucking weird. You live with it.

What I did care about was my money being sent to people who parrot SJW Propaganda. I certainly think the content is "worth a dollar" based on previous contribution - but I am not gonna pay to be preached to. I don't buy Gillette razors after the stunt they pulled - what should set Karl apart?
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Tucker Carlson has had a church of Satan weirdo on a few times talking about their goals.  As strange as that guy appears and acts, he often makes some very good pro-freedom points.

However you are right that their "trolling" usually seems petty and targets things that aren't hurting anybody and that our country was founded on.  Why protest that a church puts out a nativity scene by placing some pentagrams and stuff next to the same place the church has been doing it for years?  Why complain about the ten commandments at a court house?  etc

I'm an atheist.  I have exactly zero capability to believe in anything I can't directly see.  It is impossible.  However, I recognize the judeo-christian beliefs and values our country (and indeed much of western society and culture) were founded on and embrace them.  I think it was a better time in this country when more people did.

I just kind of write those guys off as kooky nerds/weirdos though.

SJWing is what really pisses me off.  That shit has gone WAY too far in the past 5 years.  The amount of white people ashamed of themselves for no reason whatsoever and bending over for the mob is absolutely fucking shameful.
6/3/2020 12:43:20 PM EDT
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Tucker Carlson has had a church of Satan weirdo on a few times talking about their goals.  As strange as that guy appears and acts, he often makes some very good pro-freedom points.

However you are right that their "trolling" usually seems petty and targets things that aren't hurting anybody and that our country was founded on.  Why protest that a church puts out a nativity scene by placing some pentagrams and stuff next to the same place the church has been doing it for years?  Why complain about the ten commandments at a court house?  etc

I'm an atheist.  I have exactly zero capability to believe in anything I can't directly see.  It is impossible.  However, I recognize the judeo-christian beliefs and values our country (and indeed much of western society and culture) were founded on and embrace them.  I think it was a better time in this country when more people did.

I just kind of write those guys off as kooky nerds/weirdos though.

SJWing is what really pisses me off.  That shit has gone WAY too far in the past 5 years.  The amount of white people ashamed of themselves for no reason whatsoever and bending over for the mob is absolutely fucking shameful.
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6/3/2020 12:43:41 PM EDT
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They seemingly use it as tool to offend Christians and to mock/disparage traditional societal norms and western values.  I would imagine most are of the left, both morally and socially.
6/3/2020 12:43:51 PM EDT
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don’t see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn’t approved I will assume it’s because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html



I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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If he becomes a member, I would respect the CoC.  It will be interesting in that he is a content creator and a "internet personality" so how does that play out when you engage in a sign of support for X cause outside of the forum, but the outside content is also subject to discussion here?  What about when you have a multiple episode guest who is also a internet personality to some degree that gets exposure through those episodes but his other content appears to contrast with how he appears in those episodes? What is beyond discussion or commentary when the internet and social media viewpoint footprint they have put out there is accessible and possibly contradictory?
6/3/2020 12:44:43 PM EDT
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Except for satan.  No problem with that authority.

They're atheist. They don't worship the devil; they don't believe he exists.
Ok. Im sure you believe that.  The ceremonies are just to fool everybody
6/3/2020 12:45:53 PM EDT
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I tend not to trust people that worship anything.
Uhhhh, ok.  Karl's friend.
6/3/2020 12:46:30 PM EDT
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Idk karl or any of the inrange people but I'm also not scared of some imaginary boogeyman
6/3/2020 12:47:53 PM EDT
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I wonder if there are even a total of 10 people in the WORLD who are convinced satan exists and think they are in his service?

I may actually take the "under" on that bet.
6/3/2020 12:50:51 PM EDT
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If he becomes a member, I would respect the CoC.  It will be interesting in that he is a content creator and a "internet personality" so how does that play out when you engage in a sign of support for X cause outside of the forum, but the outside content is also subject to discussion here?  What about when you have a multiple episode guest who is also a internet personality to some degree that gets exposure through those episodes but his other content appears to contrast with how he appears in those episodes? What is beyond discussion or commentary when the internet and social media viewpoint footprint they have put out there is accessible and possibly contradictory?
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don't see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn't approved I will assume it's because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

https://www.ar15.com/forums/code-of-conduct.html



I've known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He's an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don't agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.


If he becomes a member, I would respect the CoC.  It will be interesting in that he is a content creator and a "internet personality" so how does that play out when you engage in a sign of support for X cause outside of the forum, but the outside content is also subject to discussion here?  What about when you have a multiple episode guest who is also a internet personality to some degree that gets exposure through those episodes but his other content appears to contrast with how he appears in those episodes? What is beyond discussion or commentary when the internet and social media viewpoint footprint they have put out there is accessible and possibly contradictory?
What is fucked up about that is any D political personality could just sign up here, and never post, and be free from anything beyond "nice" disagreement.  

That is the antithesis of political speech.

Same could be said for gun celebs.
6/3/2020 12:51:25 PM EDT
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Idk karl or any of the inrange people but I'm also not scared of some imaginary boogeyman
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Uhhhh, ok.  Karl's friend.

Idk karl or any of the inrange people but I'm also not scared of some imaginary boogeyman
Good for you.
6/3/2020 12:53:49 PM EDT
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6/3/2020 12:54:01 PM EDT
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Satan is a pussy and sucks dicks.  In fact, I heard he never comes up from hell because he's afraid to fight even a 10th level cherub.  Just like the nerd that doesn't show up for his after school ass-beating.

Let's see if anything happens to me.  

Hint:  Nothing will
6/3/2020 12:54:35 PM EDT
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I don't get it. I'm supposed to dislike these pro 2nd amendment dudes because they don't dress like I do or because of the haircut?

This horseshit is the kind of thing that keeps the 2A community fractured. Bunch of jealous fucks is more like it.
6/3/2020 12:54:41 PM EDT
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Satan is a pussy and sucks dicks.  In fact, I heard he never comes up from hell because he's afraid to fight even a 10th level cherub.  Just like the nerd that doesn't show up for his after school ass-beating.

Let's see if anything happens to me.  

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The devil is a loser and he's my bitch
6/3/2020 12:55:33 PM EDT
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I don't get it. I'm supposed to dislike these pro 2nd amendment dudes because they don't dress like I do or because of the haircut?

This horseshit is the kind of thing that keeps the 2A community fractured. Bunch of jealous fucks is more like it.
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You seem to not be addressing the real reason most people are disregarding him, his endorsement of leftist SJW propaganda.
6/3/2020 12:56:36 PM EDT
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Ian is the man to watch. Karl is the squire.
6/3/2020 12:58:06 PM EDT
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Karl's always been like that.

Ya, seen a few rather BSy one sided agenda BS.

He's the type who would want only anti-American things to ever be talked about. In the schools, any where.
6/3/2020 12:59:04 PM EDT
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I do not count Karl as a 'patriot.'
6/3/2020 12:59:12 PM EDT
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@SinistralRifleman

When are the 2 gun matches in pima resuming??
6/3/2020 12:59:41 PM EDT
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Come again?
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Satan is a pussy and sucks dicks.  In fact, I heard he never comes up from hell because he's afraid to fight even a 10th level cherub.  Just like the nerd that doesn't show up for his after school ass-beating.

Let's see if anything happens to me.  

Hint:  Nothing will


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Ahhhh.. Lordi!

Music videos were always entertaining.
6/3/2020 1:04:21 PM EDT
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Well, since you’ve known him for 15 years would you mind enlightening us on this disgusting display of white guilt?
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In several videos (especially ones related to FAQ and historical topics), Karl has long expressed his interest in the civil rights movement and made statements about various groups, including African Americans, being oppressed in various times and places. He has also made references to wanting to do a series of historical videos on the intersection of firearms and the civil rights movement.
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In several videos (especially ones related to FAQ and historical topics), Karl has long expressed his interest in the civil rights movement and made statements about various groups, including African Americans, being oppressed in various times and places. He has also made references to wanting to do a series of historical videos on the intersection of firearms and the civil rights movement.
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Well, since you've known him for 15 years would you mind enlightening us on this disgusting display of white guilt?


In several videos (especially ones related to FAQ and historical topics), Karl has long expressed his interest in the civil rights movement and made statements about various groups, including African Americans, being oppressed in various times and places. He has also made references to wanting to do a series of historical videos on the intersection of firearms and the civil rights movement.
He's not wrong on that. Gun Control in the US is tied to the oppressing of various minority groups in the country.
6/3/2020 1:13:29 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone has a problem with Karl's views on civil rights, I really enjoyed the InRange video series on the Underground Railroad or the video on the War of 1812 and the town of Fazendeville, I think the backlash comes from the cringy virtue signaling and the black lives matter hashtag nonsense.
6/3/2020 1:16:44 PM EDT
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I don't think anyone has a problem with Karl's views on civil rights, I really enjoyed the InRange video series on the Underground Railroad or the video on the War of 1812 and the town of Fazendeville, I think the backlash comes from the cringy virtue signaling and the black lives matter hashtag nonsense.
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The cringey virtue signaling and SJW stuff is exactly the problem for me
6/3/2020 1:17:58 PM EDT
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He's not wrong on that. Gun Control in the US is tied to the oppressing of various minority groups in the country.
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I'm aware. When I did my history undergrad, one of the required readings in one of my modern US classes was about that specific topics (gun control and oppression of blacks). As accurate as that topic is, I believe that the reality is that gun control is more directly tied to otherizing more broadly (and blacks have been largely otherized in our society, along with several other groups at various times). I believe that it's more of a time and place connection than many realize (e.g. gun control in the south was targeted at blacks, in NY and NJ at southern and eastern European immigrants, some might argue that even modern gun control is a targeted measure against certain groups- potentially with a more traditional role of hegemony that increasingly powerful forces would like to otherize, or at groups that have been long standing targets of oppression [way oversimplified] ). One of the other considerations that came to mind when doing that study is that there are often many other ideological connections, considerations, and fears that end up becoming interconnected.
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I don't think anyone has a problem with Karl's views on civil rights, I really enjoyed the InRange video series on the Underground Railroad or the video on the War of 1812 and the town of Fazendeville, I think the backlash comes from the cringy virtue signaling and the black lives matter hashtag nonsense.
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That's where I'm at. I couldn't give a fuck less about whatever Satan level trolling he enjoys.

But now is the time to listen to black voices? Get the fuck out of here with that

If you want to change how you're treated in this country, change how you act.
6/3/2020 1:19:35 PM EDT
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I unsubscribed. I don't go in for adherence to group-think that is ultimately detrimental to the 2nd amendment and the USA.
6/3/2020 1:21:48 PM EDT
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Karl is still waiting for Jorge Avila to approve his account.  
Because InRange is theoretically a business they are in discussions regarding commercial rules though I don’t see how he would make money off this site as he is solely funded by patrons.

If he isn’t approved I will assume it’s because many of the people here would immediately be in violation of the sites code of conduct rule 6

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I’ve known Karl for 15 years.  And the way people talk about him here is frankly disgusting.  Many of you choose to create your own narratives rather than taking his statements at face value.  

He’s an anti authoritarian libertarian.  I don’t agree with him on everything, but intelligent people can have nuanced contrary opinions and still get along.
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Well now we know why your lower was chosen for their Stoner build.
6/3/2020 1:26:37 PM EDT
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Well now we know why your lower was chosen for their Stoner build.
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Respectfully, that's kind of a low blow - Russell happens to have the only evolution and production details of the CavArms lower. I wouldn't exactly call myself a shill for his products, But the fact of the matter is, it is the only working and effective polymer lower receiver

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