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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:28:28 PM EDT
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It is funny how the bleeding hearts in this country hold welfare for our poor so dearly (steak dinners and EBT ) while wearing clothing made by a Chinese kid who lives on rice and the occasional bean.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:30:21 PM EDT
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FPNI The solution is find a job. Those who truly couldn't would have to use charities. Private charities could not replace the bohemouth that is institutionalized welfare in this country. The system is so easy that it enables people to depend on it. It even tempts them and entices them. Welfare is the downfall of those communities and cultures that depend on ot as a matter of practice. It enslaves them to being second class citizens. It is itself a racist institution against those it ensnares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would donate job applications  FPNI The solution is find a job. Those who truly couldn't would have to use charities. Private charities could not replace the bohemouth that is institutionalized welfare in this country. The system is so easy that it enables people to depend on it. It even tempts them and entices them. Welfare is the downfall of those communities and cultures that depend on ot as a matter of practice. It enslaves them to being second class citizens. It is itself a racist institution against those it ensnares. Ya know… Right after the welfare reforms of the 1990s I worked in a factory that hired a lot of low skilled type folks. When you are in Alabama that means Blacks and Rednecks. (Some people might be surprised to learn how well Blacks and Rednecks can get along, but that’s not important right now.) And the funny thing is a lot of the Black people were praising Clinton for passing welfare reform. Why? Because it made them get a job and that was a great thing for Black people. I’m serious, they were not only happy for being kicked off welfare but they were thanking Clinton for doing it… go figure. I imagine that some local preachers had a lot to do with that. (Church is central to the life of Southern Black people.) But still, they knew that they were better off working than on welfare. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:32:59 PM EDT
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. ITT the liberals out themselves. A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:36:33 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Wait what? Studies show that we through away 40-50% of good eatable food every year in this country. Want to know why? You and I don't throughout half our fridge stock every time we go to the grocery store. Grocery stores and restaurants toss it in the garbage and get a tax write off on it as "unsold spoiled". Eliminate the tax write off for throwing away good food and make it a write off to give to local food banks. Food stamp problem solved. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:37:51 PM EDT
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Ya know… Right after the welfare reforms of the 1990s I worked in a factory that hired a lot of low skilled type folks. When you are in Alabama that means Blacks and Rednecks. (Some people might be surprised to learn how well Blacks and Rednecks can get along, but that’s not important right now.) And the funny thing is a lot of the Black people were praising Clinton for passing welfare reform. Why? Because it made them get a job and that was a great thing for Black people. I’m serious, they were not only happy for being kicked off welfare but they were thanking Clinton for doing it… go figure. I imagine that some local preachers had a lot to do with that. (Church is central to the life of Southern Black people.) But still, they knew that they were better off working than on welfare. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would donate job applications FPNI The solution is find a job. Those who truly couldn't would have to use charities. Private charities could not replace the bohemouth that is institutionalized welfare in this country. The system is so easy that it enables people to depend on it. It even tempts them and entices them. Welfare is the downfall of those communities and cultures that depend on ot as a matter of practice. It enslaves them to being second class citizens. It is itself a racist institution against those it ensnares. Ya know… Right after the welfare reforms of the 1990s I worked in a factory that hired a lot of low skilled type folks. When you are in Alabama that means Blacks and Rednecks. (Some people might be surprised to learn how well Blacks and Rednecks can get along, but that’s not important right now.) And the funny thing is a lot of the Black people were praising Clinton for passing welfare reform. Why? Because it made them get a job and that was a great thing for Black people. I’m serious, they were not only happy for being kicked off welfare but they were thanking Clinton for doing it… go figure. I imagine that some local preachers had a lot to do with that. (Church is central to the life of Southern Black people.) But still, they knew that they were better off working than on welfare. Older black folks realize it. It is the same deal with a lot of foriegn aid. It makes a dependant culture unavoidable. I first heard these ideas in my life time (other than from my dad when I was young) was from Ron Paul. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:38:46 PM EDT
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A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. ITT the liberals out themselves. A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. Now that you mention it, I remember him caterwauling about how minimum wage is the bedrock of our society, or some bullshit like that. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:42:23 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand for free steak and lobster, and soda and doritos, and lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu.... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand for free steak and lobster, and soda and doritos, and lambs and sloths, and carp and anchovies, and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit-bats and large chu.... |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:43:59 PM EDT
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A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. ITT the liberals out themselves. A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. tc sure loves him some government. Should be wearing this 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 6:50:48 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. No, the programs were set up to buy votes. See LBJ. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:02:23 PM EDT
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If they were only set up to prevent starving you would only be able to get bread, veggies, peanut butter, and milk. It is a vote buying scheme and a second enslavement for people of color (whites to).
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:33:24 PM EDT
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I was just googling "what did poor people do before welfare?" and found this interesting article.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/06/23/welfare-state-doesnt-adequately-describe-how-much-americas-poor-control-your-wallet/ and Welfare before the welfare state There was a lot of banding together. I had known something of the mutual assistance societies among the Eastern European immigrants, such as the PRCU (Polish Roman Catholic Union of America). http://www.prcua.org/about.htm "Poor" people call themselves "poor" but are they really? With the flashy cars/SUVs, clothes, elaborate hair/manicure/pedicures, newest electronic gadgets (mobile and otherwise), processed food, these folks are NOT poor. We're just subsidizing their luxuries. How many welfare recipients would be in really dire shape without EBT/TNAF, SNAP, section 8, etc.? Previous generations had to be in really, really dire shape before they would accept any sort of organized help. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:39:14 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Seriously?? With all the graft and corruption, welfare fraud and the like, I would love to abolish it just to see the roaches scurry. I work too damn hard and i hate seeing my tax dollars go to the FSA. I hate it. There is a big difference between a "hand up" and a "handout". |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Is that what they teach in NY? |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 8:57:30 PM EDT
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Is that what they teach in NY? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Is that what they teach in NY? I think they teach work for twenty years and live off your pension. 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:15:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. 
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:16:36 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Nope. I think that when they're hungry enough they'll actually be willing to work for food. Charities should o ly have to take care of those who can't take care of themselves, not those who choose not to. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:45:26 PM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Demand for free stuff is infinite. The poor should be served a nutritious gruel after standing in line for 2 hours. I am opposed to any additional mollycoddling. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. The demand for free shit is always going to exceed supply. Some people simply are not worth providing for and will suffer the consequences of their choices.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:56:52 PM EDT
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? No shit, is this a fucking joke? My family donates food every year. Canned food and off-brand turkey isn't good enough for the FSA. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 9:58:21 PM EDT
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If the .gov were out of the welfare bidness, charities would not make up the difference. Members of the FSA would actually have to find a job. My charitable contributions would continue at their present generous level. It would be a 50/50 thing (or 90/10). The truly needy that are some form of disabled would be all that's left, the lazy assholes would finally work. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:00:46 PM EDT
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The programs we have now were created to buy votes and nothing more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. The programs we have now were created to buy votes and nothing more. Yep. LOTS of food/shelter private non-profit organizations out there. I used to work at an accounting firm that had 1/2 the staff dedicated to auditing and compiling financial statements for non-profits, many homeless shelters and soup kitchens. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:05:30 PM EDT
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Who would be the first to actually donate to the charities that would theoretically replace EBT? It would not be EBT like as we know it now. Able bodied men and women would be expected to work period. Do a staple food stipend and daycare that is it, and put some of the former looters to work in the daycare. Localized community interest support groups would be the order of the day. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:12:25 PM EDT
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OP is a lib troll.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:14:55 PM EDT
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Sometimes I feel like this site could serve as a case study in sociopathy
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:24:27 PM EDT
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I would donate job applications There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. Don't care, donate to your church or salvation army. I wont give a penny |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:46:12 PM EDT
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The system is broken beyond repair. The joke about lobster, crab legs and steak are true. I personally see it on a daily basis.
Can't afford food? Here is your 50 pound bag o'spuds, block of cheese product, and lard. Have fun eating that. Other than that, get a fucking job, stop sucking on the .gov tit. Why are we a fucking cradle to grave welfare system that keeps on keeping' on? Look to ancient Rome. They had a huge welfare system towards the end. Where did that get them? There is a reason it's called ruins, and not modern Rome. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 10:54:53 PM EDT
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out of all the money the government wastes, food for the poor doesnt bother me too bad. It should. In the first place most of the money is wasted. I believe that 30% was the amount quoted upthread that goes to actual food. In the 2nd place, much of the SNAP money is spend on non-nutritional garbage like Doritos and Mt. Dew, again as quoted upthread. So it's corporate handouts, not individual assistance. Seriously, the entire Welfare (what a joke of a misnomer) system needs to be done away with. It is nothing more than a vote buying scam from the very people who are trying to steal your freedoms and turn this once free land into a communist state. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:07:09 PM EDT
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I already give about $7,000 a year to various charities and ministries. Give me my taxes back and I'll donate even more.
But I won't give one red cent to anyone who has better stuff than I have. I might offer to buy an item at a fair price, though. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:11:48 PM EDT
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Did you see the thread about the lady complaining her food stamps was cut $75 or so from almost $1200. My family eats on a fraction on that, so can they. I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:12:42 PM EDT
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And oddly enough, after $16 trillion over 65 years, there are more people on welfare (both raw numbers and per capita) than ever before. What does that tell you? (Hint--finish the sentence: "throwing good ___ after bad.") Did someone claim that poverty was going to go away? |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:14:03 PM EDT
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Couldnt be more wrong. There was more opportunity before Big Gov. The welfare state was created by the left to tear down families, communities, and make individuals dependant. They could never defeat us militarily, so they have done it from within, just as Kruschev said they would. More opportunity for what? My original comment stands. These programs started because private charity couldn't meet demand. The private charities that exist today can't meet demand either |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:27:30 PM EDT
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I don't really think we should get rid of Welfare per se; but rather, revamp the whole system.
A coworker and I came up with this theory of a network of products that you can only use your EBT card for. Great Value rice *good*, Appetite Pleasin' ranch style beans *good*, T-bone steak (2) *invalid item*, Monster Energy six pack *invalid item*. Benefits would only be available for a limited amount of time (measured in months) and; if you needed more, it would be time to pick up a .gov part time labor job until you find a better job. We all know that's inconsiderate and unreasonable though.
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:38:37 PM EDT
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Who would be the first to actually donate to the charities that would theoretically replace EBT? Probably the same people that donate now, but really, this is a pointless question. The only thing that will replace EBT is mass violence and/or cannibalism. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with a safety net, but you have to design and run it in good faith. Neither is happening now or has been happening for a long time. Most of the transfer payment programs are just that; taking shit from one group to hand to another. It's institutionalized theft; some ghetto idiot with a couple of neglected children pulls down as much as I make. This is simply fucked up. The entitlement programs are not anywhere close to sustainable, and many of those on them are - to be perfectly frank - utterly useless, even beyond their sense of entitlement. What can't go on forever, won't. They'll probably end up eating each other sooner or later. Quoted:
I don't really think we should get rid of Welfare per se; but rather, revamp the whole system. It's neat how some people think we have a choice. We don't; the government will never voluntarily stop it, and it's not possible for them to continue it indefinitely. |
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Posted: 10/25/2013 11:49:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:11:30 AM EDT
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I would donate job applications There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. This is because of a lack of education opportunities. I hope that's sarcasm, because surely you can't be serious. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:16:49 AM EDT
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It's neat how some people think we have a choice. We don't; the government will never voluntarily stop it, and it's not possible for them to continue it indefinitely. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't really think we should get rid of Welfare per se; but rather, revamp the whole system. It's neat how some people think we have a choice. We don't; the government will never voluntarily stop it, and it's not possible for them to continue it indefinitely. I don't think we have a choice, I just think it'd be better to do what I stated above. I realize there's really no chance that we'll be able to sort this out the usual way by voting. Doesn't mean I won't vote; but I think we're pretty much set on a dark path. 
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:36:10 AM EDT
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A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. If the alternative is to suggest as the poster above did that we should drop our minimum wage to that of China, I'll be happy to be the contrarian in this discussion. Quoted:
The system is broken beyond repair. The joke about lobster, crab legs and steak are true. I personally see it on a daily basis. Can't afford food? Here is your 50 pound bag o'spuds, block of cheese product, and lard. Have fun eating that. Other than that, get a fucking job, stop sucking on the .gov tit. Why are we a fucking cradle to grave welfare system that keeps on keeping' on? Look to ancient Rome. They had a huge welfare system towards the end. Where did that get them? There is a reason it's called ruins, and not modern Rome. I agree that what they can buy on SNAP or food stamps or whatever you want to call it should be limited to generic store brands and fresh foods. I don't agree with the suggestion I see in these threads that there should be special SNAP stores like the gov't run booze stores in some states |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:38:59 AM EDT
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If the .gov were out of the welfare bidness, charities would not make up the difference. Members of the FSA would actually have to find a job. My charitable contributions would continue at their present generous level. Yep. I give to a local food bank and Goodwill on a monthly basis. I'd probably give more to the food bank if I wasn't being raped every two weeks. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:42:19 AM EDT
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You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I already have. Haven't you ever given to a food drive at your church before? You really think a few cans at a food drive is a viable substitute for welfare and food stamps? Op, the programs we have now were created because private charity couldn't keep up with the demand.
No, they were created as a method of control. Our gov doesn't give a fuck about the welfare of the people, it only wants more control. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:51:22 AM EDT
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I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you see the thread about the lady complaining her food stamps was cut $75 or so from almost $1200. My family eats on a fraction on that, so can they. I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. You know fractions 3/4, 1/2, 1/3? Growing up in a family of 5 our food budget was around 600 a month and we ate very well. That was only a few years ago btw... There is no reason a family needs 1200 a month to eat on all of my monthly bills arent too much more than that. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 12:55:08 AM EDT
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I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you see the thread about the lady complaining her food stamps was cut $75 or so from almost $1200. My family eats on a fraction on that, so can they. I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. My family and I eat on about $800 a month. That's with us buying a good amount of stupid shit that we don't need. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:03:48 AM EDT
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I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you see the thread about the lady complaining her food stamps was cut $75 or so from almost $1200. My family eats on a fraction on that, so can they. I know what food costs in the store, and I find it unbelievable that a family could eat for a "fraction" of $1200 a month. A couple of hundred bucks a week for a family is very very easy to rack up without even hitting the meat section. 
Are you joking? I can bulk on ~$130 worth of food each month and I have a high metabolism. It's not unhealthy shit either. You must be on that whole foods time. Pretty sure you could feed a family of 20 with $1400 a month if you really wanted to. Sadly, they might have to cut out the lobster and steak dinners every night. Funny thing is, most people are like you, which is why we are screwed. Most of the people I see using EBT are whales, so I'm pretty sure they could get by on less. Nomsayin? |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:07:30 AM EDT
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A quick searched confirmed by (increasingly poor) memory, and 556guy outs himself pretty much every time he posts on economics. If the alternative is to suggest as the poster above did that we should drop our minimum wage to that of China, I'll be happy to be the contrarian in this discussion. tc... you've gotten huffy and praised Cuba in some past discussions. Stop pretending to be a centrist. Quoted:
More opportunity for what? My original comment stands. These programs started because private charity couldn't meet demand. The private charities that exist today can't meet demand either Demand by whom? 
You do know they are giving food to people already on foodstamps, right?
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:08:27 AM EDT
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And oddly enough, after $16 trillion over 65 years, there are more people on welfare (both raw numbers and per capita) than ever before. What does that tell you? (Hint--finish the sentence: "throwing good ___ after bad.") Since initiating the "war on poverty" with all the welfare programs of the 1960's, poverty has NEVER GONE DOWN. All it did was make people dependent on government when they used to at least produce things or provide a service. They are still poor.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:08:58 AM EDT
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There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would donate job applications There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. That's not a good enough reason in itself to make people dependent (frequently taking away their incentive to take an entry level job). |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:09:35 AM EDT
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Until my taxes reflect no more redistribution of wealth, not a damned cent to charity. Except the one who dances at the Flight Club.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:09:56 AM EDT
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OP is a lib troll. He has stated in a past thread that he is only an apologist for them.
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:45:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would donate job applications There has never been a time in US history where ever single person had a full-time, family sustaining job. |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:51:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: out of all the money the government wastes, food for the poor doesnt bother me too bad. The vast majority of people who are homeless, could find a shelter, and food, etc... if they would just drop the bottle or the crack pipe.
The vast majority of people who go without food, shelter, etc in this country... are people who have simply traded food and shelter for the beer bottle. No one is homeless and hungry in America, because they are just "down on their luck". It's almost always either mental illness or addiction... (more often both, actually) |
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Posted: 10/26/2013 1:54:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is funny how the bleeding hearts in this country hold welfare for our poor so dearly (steak dinners and EBT ) while wearing clothing made by a Chinese kid who lives on rice and the occasional bean. ...and works for it. |
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