Posted: 1/26/2026 1:44:23 AM EDT
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And this will be the nail in the coffin for the 320 and possibly Sig as a whole. I normally don’t repost YouTube videos here. In fact I despise them. But this is a good breakdown.  NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED... The Odds Of All Of This Happening Are EXCEEDINGLY SMALL... I’m gonna laugh my ass off if an Sig UD is what kicks off CWII.  Grok summary… “The YouTube video from Langley Outdoors Academy (titled “NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED… The Odds Of All Of This Happening Are EXCEEDINGLY SMALL…”), uploaded on January 25, 2026, provides a detailed analysis of a fatal shooting in Minneapolis involving federal immigration agents (referred to as ICE/Border Patrol agents) and a man (identified in broader reports as Alex Pretti/Pretty, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and VA ICU nurse) who was shot and killed on January 24, 2026, during clashes amid protests/obstruction related to immigration enforcement. The creator, Braden Loa (a self-described expert in firearms, Second Amendment advocacy, and related litigation), argues strongly against narratives portraying the incident as deliberate murder or aggressive overreach by agents. Instead, he presents his hypothesis—based on piecing together multiple video angles—that the death resulted from a tragic chain of unfortunate, coincidental events rather than intent. Key Points from the Video’s Analysis: • The man was carrying a Sig P320 handgun (noted in passing for its reported history of accidental discharges, though the creator says he can’t prove this played a role here and largely sets it aside). • During a physical struggle/obstruction (described as “obstructionist activity” rather than peaceful protest), agents spotted or the man reached toward his waistband, prompting shouts of “gun, gun, gun” (standard protocol to alert others). • An agent in a gray baseball cap and jacket physically removed/disarmed the man, taking the gun and walking away from the immediate fight while other agents had less-lethal tools out but not firearms drawn initially. • As this gray agent moves away holding the gun (now out of the original man’s possession), the creator points to slowed-down/zoomed footage showing: • The agent’s arm suddenly changing trajectory. • Apparent slide movement on the handgun. • A single initial gunshot audible, followed quickly by multiple shots. • The creator theorizes this first shot was an accidental/negligent discharge from the removed gun in the agent’s hand (possibly due to sympathetic reaction, movement while running, or other factors—not intentional firing). • This single shot triggered “contagious gunfire” (a known phenomenon where officers hearing a shot and already on high alert may reflexively fire) • Other agents, having heard “gun” yelled and then a real gunshot (seemingly from the direction of the gray agent and the original threat area), reacted per training and fired at the perceived source of the threat (the man originally associated with the gun). • Supporting visuals include: • Bullet impact on pavement (from another circulating clip) aligned with the gray agent’s position. • Agents (including one nearby) visibly reacting/jumping backward, consistent with a nearby discharge. • The overall conclusion: Not targeted murder, but a “stack of unended events” combining obstruction, bringing a gun to a chaotic scene, law enforcement protocols, a possible negligent discharge, and contagious gunfire leading to tragedy. The creator stresses this is his opinion/hypothesis (not 100% provable), invites comments, and urges sharing for public awareness. The tone is pro-law-enforcement and critical of “the left’s rhetoric” for escalating tensions and creating dangerous situations. Viewer comments (as provided) largely agree with this take, emphasizing personal responsibility (e.g., don’t bring a gun to obstruct law enforcement), supporting ICE, and criticizing local leadership or protesters. This video offers a firearms-focused, frame-by-frame breakdown that contrasts with some media/protester narratives blaming agents directly.” |
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Quoted: And this will be the nail in the coffin for the 320 and possibly Sig as a whole. I normally don’t repost YouTube videos here. In fact I despise them. But this is a good breakdown.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ktY_amK35AI’m gonna laugh my ass off if an Sig UD is what kicks off CWII. Grok summary… “The YouTube video from Langley Outdoors Academy (titled “NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED… The Odds Of All Of This Happening Are EXCEEDINGLY SMALL…”), uploaded on January 25, 2026, provides a detailed analysis of a fatal shooting in Minneapolis involving federal immigration agents (referred to as ICE/Border Patrol agents) and a man (identified in broader reports as Alex Pretti/Pretty, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and VA ICU nurse) who was shot and killed on January 24, 2026, during clashes amid protests/obstruction related to immigration enforcement. The creator, Braden Loa (a self-described expert in firearms, Second Amendment advocacy, and related litigation), argues strongly against narratives portraying the incident as deliberate murder or aggressive overreach by agents. Instead, he presents his hypothesis—based on piecing together multiple video angles—that the death resulted from a tragic chain of unfortunate, coincidental events rather than intent. Key Points from the Video’s Analysis: • The man was carrying a Sig P320 handgun (noted in passing for its reported history of accidental discharges, though the creator says he can’t prove this played a role here and largely sets it aside). • During a physical struggle/obstruction (described as “obstructionist activity” rather than peaceful protest), agents spotted or the man reached toward his waistband, prompting shouts of “gun, gun, gun” (standard protocol to alert others). • An agent in a gray baseball cap and jacket physically removed/disarmed the man, taking the gun and walking away from the immediate fight while other agents had less-lethal tools out but not firearms drawn initially. • As this gray agent moves away holding the gun (now out of the original man’s possession), the creator points to slowed-down/zoomed footage showing: • The agent’s arm suddenly changing trajectory. • Apparent slide movement on the handgun. • A single initial gunshot audible, followed quickly by multiple shots. • The creator theorizes this first shot was an accidental/negligent discharge from the removed gun in the agent’s hand (possibly due to sympathetic reaction, movement while running, or other factors—not intentional firing). • This single shot triggered “contagious gunfire” (a known phenomenon where officers hearing a shot and already on high alert may reflexively fire) • Other agents, having heard “gun” yelled and then a real gunshot (seemingly from the direction of the gray agent and the original threat area), reacted per training and fired at the perceived source of the threat (the man originally associated with the gun). • Supporting visuals include: • Bullet impact on pavement (from another circulating clip) aligned with the gray agent’s position. • Agents (including one nearby) visibly reacting/jumping backward, consistent with a nearby discharge. • The overall conclusion: Not targeted murder, but a “stack of unended events” combining obstruction, bringing a gun to a chaotic scene, law enforcement protocols, a possible negligent discharge, and contagious gunfire leading to tragedy. The creator stresses this is his opinion/hypothesis (not 100% provable), invites comments, and urges sharing for public awareness. The tone is pro-law-enforcement and critical of “the left’s rhetoric” for escalating tensions and creating dangerous situations. Viewer comments (as provided) largely agree with this take, emphasizing personal responsibility (e.g., don’t bring a gun to obstruct law enforcement), supporting ICE, and criticizing local leadership or protesters. This video offers a firearms-focused, frame-by-frame breakdown that contrasts with some media/protester narratives blaming agents directly.” Could have just recalled the P320 and replaced it with a thicker P365…..but noooooooo. They could t admit it was a shitty design. |
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Quoted: And this will be the nail in the coffin for the 320 and possibly Sig as a whole. I normally don’t repost YouTube videos here. In fact I despise them. But this is a good breakdown. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ktY_amK35AI’m gonna laugh my ass off if an Sig UD is what kicks off CWII. Grok summary… “The YouTube video from Langley Outdoors Academy (titled “NEW FOOTAGE SHOWS WHAT HAPPENED… The Odds Of All Of This Happening Are EXCEEDINGLY SMALL…”), uploaded on January 25, 2026, provides a detailed analysis of a fatal shooting in Minneapolis involving federal immigration agents (referred to as ICE/Border Patrol agents) and a man (identified in broader reports as Alex Pretti/Pretty, a 37-year-old U.S. citizen and VA ICU nurse) who was shot and killed on January 24, 2026, during clashes amid protests/obstruction related to immigration enforcement. The creator, Braden Loa (a self-described expert in firearms, Second Amendment advocacy, and related litigation), argues strongly against narratives portraying the incident as deliberate murder or aggressive overreach by agents. Instead, he presents his hypothesis—based on piecing together multiple video angles—that the death resulted from a tragic chain of unfortunate, coincidental events rather than intent. Key Points from the Video’s Analysis: • The man was carrying a Sig P320 handgun (noted in passing for its reported history of accidental discharges, though the creator says he can’t prove this played a role here and largely sets it aside). • During a physical struggle/obstruction (described as “obstructionist activity” rather than peaceful protest), agents spotted or the man reached toward his waistband, prompting shouts of “gun, gun, gun” (standard protocol to alert others). • An agent in a gray baseball cap and jacket physically removed/disarmed the man, taking the gun and walking away from the immediate fight while other agents had less-lethal tools out but not firearms drawn initially. • As this gray agent moves away holding the gun (now out of the original man’s possession), the creator points to slowed-down/zoomed footage showing: • The agent’s arm suddenly changing trajectory. • Apparent slide movement on the handgun. • A single initial gunshot audible, followed quickly by multiple shots. • The creator theorizes this first shot was an accidental/negligent discharge from the removed gun in the agent’s hand (possibly due to sympathetic reaction, movement while running, or other factors—not intentional firing). • This single shot triggered “contagious gunfire” (a known phenomenon where officers hearing a shot and already on high alert may reflexively fire) • Other agents, having heard “gun” yelled and then a real gunshot (seemingly from the direction of the gray agent and the original threat area), reacted per training and fired at the perceived source of the threat (the man originally associated with the gun). • Supporting visuals include: • Bullet impact on pavement (from another circulating clip) aligned with the gray agent’s position. • Agents (including one nearby) visibly reacting/jumping backward, consistent with a nearby discharge. • The overall conclusion: Not targeted murder, but a “stack of unended events” combining obstruction, bringing a gun to a chaotic scene, law enforcement protocols, a possible negligent discharge, and contagious gunfire leading to tragedy. The creator stresses this is his opinion/hypothesis (not 100% provable), invites comments, and urges sharing for public awareness. The tone is pro-law-enforcement and critical of “the left’s rhetoric” for escalating tensions and creating dangerous situations. Viewer comments (as provided) largely agree with this take, emphasizing personal responsibility (e.g., don’t bring a gun to obstruct law enforcement), supporting ICE, and criticizing local leadership or protesters. This video offers a firearms-focused, frame-by-frame breakdown that contrasts with some media/protester narratives blaming agents directly.” DJT is going to sign an EE to get rid of the P320 in the military. I wouldn't be surprised if he just flat out bans it with an EE. Mark my words. |
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Absolutely Watch this one at 0.25x speed. You can definitely see the slide coming back. You can also hear the shot at the same time. I watched it earlier and thought it was so. After watching it at .25x, it's clear. And the agent is also clearly holding the gun way down on the grip, below the trigger guard.
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Quoted: Absolutely Watch this one at 0.25x speed. You can definitely see the slide coming back. You can also hear the shot at the same time. I watched it earlier and thought it was so. After watching it at .25x, it's clear. And the agent is also clearly holding the gun way down on the grip, below the trigger guard.
Is that the slide moving, or a wrinkle forming in the pants of the guy in the background? If I look only at the red dot, it doesn't look like it moves. Really hard to be sure, though. It would be sooooo appropriate though in the world as it currently is, with everyone and everything gone completely hysterical, for the SIG shake awake feature to have been at fault. |
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The entire "anti-ICE" protest shit and feigned outrage by democrats is one giant Psyop. Even the MSM is unwittingly participating by virtue of the fact that they just regurgitate what they're told and don't investigate anything. REAL investigative journalist like Nick Shirley and James Okeef are threatend with death. Prove me wrong. |
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Quoted: Is that the slide moving, or a wrinkle forming in the pants of the guy in the background? If I look only at the red dot, it doesn't look like it moves. Really hard to be sure, though. It would be sooooo appropriate though in the world as it currently is, with everyone and everything gone completely hysterical, for the SIG shake awake feature to have been at fault. |
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Quoted: The entire "anti-ICE" protest shit and feigned outrage by democrats is one giant Psyop. Even the MSM is unwittingly participating by virtue of the fact that they just regurgitate what they're told and don't investigate anything. REAL investigative journalist like Nick Shirley and James Okeef are threatend with death. Prove me wrong. |