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I think now you have reached full retard status. The grip and back strap looked good. Personally not digging the slide, not sure what purpose it serves, and not liking the visual.
To each his own. Great job on the actual work though, very clean and symmetrical. ETA: pg 3 ownage, lol in 9 years i don't think I could claim a page ownage. Need to post more. |
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yo balls is huge!!!!!
I could never bring myself to take a dremel to a gun. It looks great!!! |
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You sir, are a dremel god!
Looks good! Not my personal cup o' tea on the slide, but it does look damn good. ETA: Duracoat it brown. Or, a gunshop refinished my dad's M&P slide with nickel teflon somethign or other. looked great. |
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I'm being facetious about the Dremel. I used a mill, guys. This I figured. |
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I was right with you till you did the tab under the slide. Other wise it looks well done. My first thought. |
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I'm being facetious about the Dremel. I used a mill, guys. Damn you! I knew it was too good! <––––––––- pW3nd |
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Enjoy this brief period of respite. ARFCOM may crucify you if they catch wind of this.
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I think it looks neat in the white, but it does look, well, dremeled. Refinish in IonBond or even Melonite, and the top notches would match the existing slide serrations and look really good IMO.
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So how much would you charge to do that to my slide?
I like it alot. |
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If the slide was refinished would the top serrations look identical to the factory sides?
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Here's mine. My only regret is doing the mag release. Oh well, I can order another. I've since sanded and redone the fronstrap since I wasn't happy with it. It looks much better now than in this pic though you can't really tell: http://i45.tinypic.com/1z5t2bl.jpg I have paid attention to the dozens of different stippling styles and that pic is the first one that I could live with on my gun. |
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Quoted: I forgot to add, if you have a really nice Dremel like mine at home, and you'd like to duplicate this pattern, I used a 0.250" carbide cutter, and the centers of the scales are 0.200" in both axis, alternated 0.100" each row. You gotta be really careful and hold the Dremel at 10 degrees. I had to kinda stick my tongue out to hold it just right. You're lucky. My dremel lays on it's side. |
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Quoted: Any reason you M&P guys don't like going up the backstrap? http://i47.tinypic.com/10clxkk.jpg When establishing my firing grip on the holstered gun, I want the web of my hand slide up as high as possible instead of sticking in the first place it touches. |
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I forgot to add, if you have a really nice Dremel like mine at home, and you'd like to duplicate this pattern, I used a 0.250" carbide cutter, and the centers of the scales are 0.200" in both axis, alternated 0.100" each row. You gotta be really careful and hold the Dremel at 10 degrees. I had to kinda stick my tongue out to hold it just right. Really nice Dremel, AKA milling machine...... |
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That actually doesn't look that bad. Not that I would do that to any of my pistols. Good job milling it though.
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Quoted: I guess it's a problem you can have if you actually have a beavertail on your gun Quoted: Any reason you M&P guys don't like going up the backstrap? http://i47.tinypic.com/10clxkk.jpg When establishing my firing grip on the holstered gun, I want the web of my hand slide up as high as possible instead of sticking in the first place it touches. |
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Looks nice, good job. but. . . I'm thinking the surface hardness has been compromised. Wondering if the slide should be re-heat treated? |
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http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21642 http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=21647 jesus in heaven |
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I was gonna call a strong BS on the dremel before you outed yourself.
Dad was a machinist for 30 yrs, so Ive seen some mill work. The precise overlap and concentric tool marks give it away. I have a Foredom hanging in my shop (Kinda a Professional Dremel so to speak) and it aint yielding that... BTW I wouldnt do any of this, but you did a decent job. Of course I readily cut up my $30k Jeep, so I cant say much. |
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Probably wouldn't do the slide work on my gun, but it looks pretty sweet and you did a damn nice job with it.
Stippling looks great, I've been kicking that around also. |
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Quoted: Looks nice, good job. but. . . I'm thinking the surface hardness has been compromised. Wondering if the slide should be re-heat treated? Well, let's thing about that. If it were surface hardened, what would the purpose be? It's not bearing any pressure, and it's a heavy enough slide it doesn't depend on a case for strength. Wear would be the only thing that comes to mind. Easily accomplished with one of the surface treatments like melonite. I did not notice any case "breakthrough" when milling. I know what it feels like in the mill, as I've had to machine case hardened items in the past. |
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Quoted: If the slide was refinished would the top serrations look identical to the factory sides? It's very close, but not exactly the same. They use a different process for sure. I'm guessing they're forged into the slide, however, if they are machined, they're contouring them and not plunge cutting them. Something I can't easily duplicate (notice the small radius on the peaks of the factory serrations.) |
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Quoted: So how much would you charge to do that to my slide? I like it alot. I don't do gun work for pay. If you look at a previous link in this thread however, there is a great shop that will do it for you, listed. |
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On a side note, holy shit is it a bitch getting out the extractor pin! I ended up grinding a special short punch and putting it in my hydraulic press to get it started. It was like pressing the barrel pin out of a Romanian AK.
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It's the best looking M&P I've seen, only thing I'd change is make the stipling smaller.
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At first i thought this was gonna be another dremel flute job but it looks nice. Wish i could do something like this.
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sir, that loos awesome. Ain't nothing wrong with personalizing a gun and making it unique. Ballsy too
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Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it?
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Quoted: Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? |
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Quoted: Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? Wait, you're serious? |
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Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? Wait, you're serious? I think so . My first thought is it looks awsome , but I wonder how much weight it cut off the slide, and will it need different recoil springs or not? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? Wait, you're serious? I think so . My first thought is it looks awsome , but I wonder how much weight it cut off the slide, and will it need different recoil springs or not? Half an ounce of weight will not affect the function of the pistol. The slide of the M&P Pro and 9L are identical accept for differing slide weights (9L is an ounce lighter), and they both work fine. |
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Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? Wait, you're serious? I think so . My first thought is it looks awsome , but I wonder how much weight it cut off the slide, and will it need different recoil springs or not? or will it crack, because it's now thinner ? |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Did you even consider weight and strength before you started cutting? I mean if you did all the math and came up with an answer that's fine. Hell, it's your gun do whatever you want to it, but I wonder sometimes if those of you with dremels and even home mills ever bother to consider that a gun is more than just parts, it's a functioning machine, there's a lot of engineering that goes into making it reliable and durable. Did you consider that or did you just think "Me want pretty gun!" and start mucking with it? Wait, you're serious? I think so . My first thought is it looks awsome , but I wonder how much weight it cut off the slide, and will it need different recoil springs or not? or will it crack, because it's now thinner ? No. The slides on the M&P Pro and 9L are much thinner than the standard M&P, and they hold up just fine. Gunsmiths have been doing millwork like this on slides for decades––this isn't anything new. |
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You did some very, very bad things to that slide. And I like it.
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