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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:56:32 AM EDT
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It's funny how people went from circle jerking over a holster to calling it crap.  It's GD and threads tend to "evolve" that way. If this lasts several more pages the fapping over the holster will resume. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 5:58:33 AM EDT
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I carry a USP in a SERPA OC sometimes. But I did throw it down the driveway first...
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:14:09 AM EDT
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Safariland ALS for the win.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:15:25 AM EDT
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This past weekend I went to walmart three times in 3 days for fishing gear each time I saw at least three guys open carrying guns. All were big dudes with arm tats and they were all carrying in cheap uncle mikes holsters a variety of revolvers and auto pistols.
Not my thing but if that's how you want to roll go for it. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:19:08 AM EDT
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My only experience with an "open carrier" was some dude who walked into my store with an empty serpa paddle holster on his hip.
I asked him if he had problems with the holster and clownshoes ensued. The holster was for an XD cause he was proclaiming the virtues of the retention system of, his serpa, and the grip safety of his XD. He was all condescending and lecturing which was odd cause his only formal training was a 2000 round front sight class. Throughout the entire convo I noticed his eyes scanning my waistband area. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:20:40 AM EDT
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Just like vegans, they'll tell you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Huh, I always spot them from the unconcealed gun on their hip. Wait, over the internet? I don't know, magic probably Just like vegans, they'll tell you. ^^^ This. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:21:41 AM EDT
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For such a short post, why didn't you just post what you wanted to say instead of redirecting us to your blog?
Don't own an XD, but the guys I know who do seem to like them. None open carry, so from my small sample your theory is a bust. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:26:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, not good about the Marines using them. Just because my beloved Corps uses something does NOT make it good gear (See the MOLLE fiasco). Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, not good about the Marines using them. Just because my beloved Corps uses something does NOT make it good gear (See the MOLLE fiasco).  when lots of military and police use them.I never open carried because, frankly, I'm scared of the police freaking out over the whole thing, But I don't see what the big deal is if it's legal. I don't think it's the same thing as showing up in the parking lot of a restaurant with twenty guys with rifles when some moms against guns group is having sandwiches inside
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:30:55 AM EDT
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1911 in a JR custom anyone?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 6:52:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How to spot an anti open carry guy on a gun forum..... They can't stop talking about open carry. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:08:36 AM EDT
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So is the XD crap too
I was going to do a trade for one this weekend |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:12:27 AM EDT
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OP, your forum must be higher-end than around here. Just about everyone I see OCing in these parts has a Hi-Point, or maybe a Ruger P-series for the double-wide crowd... stuffed into 3 bucks worth of gunshow nylon.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:19:21 AM EDT
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I have two Serpas for my M&P pistols.
They work well, and I have never shot myself or anyone else. I very seldom open carry but, I don't mind if you do. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:21:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1911 in a JR custom anyone? http://jrcholsters.com/images/stories/holsters/iwb_p1_front_600.jpg |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:33:44 AM EDT
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I OC this...
Only at the range... And I still sorta feel like a tool
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:35:24 AM EDT
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Hey, I should buy a VEPR-12 for only $799!!!
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:45:42 AM EDT
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Nike or Adidas, Ford or Chevy. Don't make a fuck to me.
GOD forbid someone has gear that isn't popular with the cool crowd. Oh Fuck, bury my head in shame. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:48:32 AM EDT
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Wait, the USMC adopted the Serpa holster? Guess I missed that memo.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:49:59 AM EDT
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Wait, the USMC adopted the Serpa holster? Guess I missed that memo. Read up here |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:51:22 AM EDT
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Taurus Judge + Cheap Nylon holster
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:52:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryWell damn, that was a dumb move. Cost or a greased palm I suppose. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:53:05 AM EDT
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OP, your forum must be higher-end than around here. Just about everyone I see OCing in these parts has a Hi-Point, or maybe a Ruger P-series for the double-wide crowd... stuffed into 3 bucks worth of gunshow nylon. Every time I see someone OC'ing in Northern VA, it's a SERPA. Haven't ran into the guy that OC's on a Segway while grocery shopping yet. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:53:19 AM EDT
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So is the XD crap too I was going to do a trade for one this weekend XD's are fine. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:54:39 AM EDT
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Nike or Adidas, Ford or Chevy. Don't make a fuck to me. GOD forbid someone has gear that isn't popular cool crowd. Oh Fuck, bury my head in shame. Yes, it's all about popularity, not shit breaking. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:56:16 AM EDT
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I thought it was a Hi Point & Uncle Mikes
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:58:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/18/2014 7:58:57 AM EDT
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I read the blog and all I can do is roll my eyes and think "How to spot a jerk off".
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read the blog and all I can do is roll my eyes and think "How to spot a jerk off". Clue #1 is that they link to their own blogs to get traffic.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:01:54 AM EDT
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So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:02:27 AM EDT
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I guess I'm slow witted, but isn't saying "a serpa is a sign of open carry" the equivalent of saying "The surest sign that a guy has a credit card is that he has a credit card".
I mean, how the hell else are you going to carry a gun in a Serpa, other than OC? |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 8:53:24 AM EDT
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Glock in a Fobus.
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:16:55 AM EDT
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No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. They haven't been adopted by any major agency or organization outside of the Croatian army and have design flaws like not being able to rack the slide without depressing the grip safety. I think they've fixed the problem with breaking the roll pins. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:25:16 AM EDT
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I guess I'm slow witted, but isn't saying "a serpa is a sign of open carry" the equivalent of saying "The surest sign that a guy has a credit card is that he has a credit card". I mean, how the hell else are you going to carry a gun in a Serpa, other than OC? I've used mine in the winter under a carhartt coat and under bibs. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:31:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They haven't been adopted by any major agency or organization outside of the Croatian army and have design flaws like not being able to rack the slide without depressing the grip safety. I think they've fixed the problem with breaking the roll pins. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. They haven't been adopted by any major agency or organization outside of the Croatian army and have design flaws like not being able to rack the slide without depressing the grip safety. I think they've fixed the problem with breaking the roll pins. Why is that a design defect? How is it less safe than racking the slide on a Glock?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:39:11 AM EDT
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Why is that a design defect? How is it less safe than racking the slide on a Glock? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. They haven't been adopted by any major agency or organization outside of the Croatian army and have design flaws like not being able to rack the slide without depressing the grip safety. I think they've fixed the problem with breaking the roll pins. Why is that a design defect? How is it less safe than racking the slide on a Glock? XD's are a no go for serious use--the inability to retract the slide without engaging the grip safety makes one-hand injured operation very difficult with the XD--this is a deal breaker for me. In addition, in some government tests, XD's (particularly the .40's) have broken a lot of parts compared to other pistols being tested...I'll take a 9 mm Glock or M&P any day of the week over an XD. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:43:39 AM EDT
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This past weekend I went to walmart three times in 3 days for fishing gear each time I saw at least three guys open carrying guns. All were big dudes with arm tats and they were all carrying in cheap uncle mikes holsters a variety of revolvers and auto pistols. Not my thing but if that's how you want to roll go for it. I was thinking the claim would be about Uncle Mikes and various wheel guns, or a Ruger. I have three XDs and a Serpa. Ooooo!
I don't open carry, though. XD SC sits in a Crossbreed. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:45:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryAs an XD owner, who has practiced a lot of one handed (strong and weak hand) manipulation, I'm failing to see how this is an issue. I've never had an issue manipulating it one handed. Both hands injured? Yeah, I could see that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:49:17 AM EDT
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Open Carry is in the bible, true. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How to spot an anti open carry guy on a gun forum..... They can't stop talking about open carry.how they disagree with others exercising their god-given rights because it scares them. FIFY Open Carry is in the bible, true. Boobolitz 4:13 - yea verily, the shepard of the sheep shalt go forth into the flock of the Lord, and thy shalt wearith thine croatian devining rod of retribution upon thine body within the shell of holy kydex. Though the evils of the world, the neckbeards of Satan congregate at Walmart, the sons the Lord need not fear, as they shall be sheltered by the holy sheepdog. I say verily unto you, woof. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. They haven't been adopted by any major agency or organization outside of the Croatian army and have design flaws like not being able to rack the slide without depressing the grip safety. I think they've fixed the problem with breaking the roll pins. Why is that a design defect? How is it less safe than racking the slide on a Glock? XD's are a no go for serious use--the inability to retract the slide without engaging the grip safety makes one-hand injured operation very difficult with the XD--this is a deal breaker for me. In addition, in some government tests, XD's (particularly the .40's) have broken a lot of parts compared to other pistols being tested...I'll take a 9 mm Glock or M&P any day of the week over an XD. Still not seeing how that's an issue. Do you need to be able to rack the slide while holding the frame in your teeth by the trigger guard or something?
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:51:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Many would like to be able to rack the slide using a compromised and/or one handed grip. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:51:25 AM EDT
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Clue #1 is that they link to their own blogs to get traffic. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I read the blog and all I can do is roll my eyes and think "How to spot a jerk off". Clue #1 is that they link to their own blogs to get traffic. I generally find most people with blogs are fucking douchebags. 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:51:51 AM EDT
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I have a SERPA holster that I've had since before we knew they sucked.
I use it at home because it's got a paddle, and it's comfortable. At home. Otherwise, I have much nicer rigs (but if I OC, it's got to have belt loops, not a paddle).....I have a safariland for that. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:52:24 AM EDT
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I generally find most people with blogs are fucking douchebags. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I read the blog and all I can do is roll my eyes and think "How to spot a jerk off". Clue #1 is that they link to their own blogs to get traffic. I generally find most people with blogs are fucking douchebags. Strongly agreed 
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:52:53 AM EDT
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Boobolitz 4:13 - yea verily, the shepard of the sheep shalt go forth into the flock of the Lord, and thy shalt wearith thine croatian devining rod of retribution upon thine body within the shell of holy kydex. Though the evils of the world, the neckbeards of Satan congregate at Walmart, the sons the Lord need not fear, as they shall be sheltered by the holy sheepdog. I say verily unto you, woof. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How to spot an anti open carry guy on a gun forum..... They can't stop talking about open carry.how they disagree with others exercising their god-given rights because it scares them. FIFY Open Carry is in the bible, true. Boobolitz 4:13 - yea verily, the shepard of the sheep shalt go forth into the flock of the Lord, and thy shalt wearith thine croatian devining rod of retribution upon thine body within the shell of holy kydex. Though the evils of the world, the neckbeards of Satan congregate at Walmart, the sons the Lord need not fear, as they shall be sheltered by the holy sheepdog. I say verily unto you, woof. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I want to steal that quote! |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:56:32 AM EDT
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Many would like to be able to rack the slide using a compromised and/or one handed grip. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Many would like to be able to rack the slide using a compromised and/or one handed grip. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not totally in love with my XD. However, it's worked without fail for thousands of rounds. It's reasonably accurate. It fits my hand and carries well. All that said, I like Glocks better.
However, my wife does not. She can manipulate the XD better than the Glock. She shoots it better than the Glock. I'd rather have a gun that works perfectly, that I shoot well, that can share holster, magazines, etc with the gun my wife carries - than carry a gun I just "like" a little better. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:57:01 AM EDT
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I want to steal that quote! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How to spot an anti open carry guy on a gun forum..... They can't stop talking about open carry.how they disagree with others exercising their god-given rights because it scares them. FIFY Open Carry is in the bible, true. Boobolitz 4:13 - yea verily, the shepard of the sheep shalt go forth into the flock of the Lord, and thy shalt wearith thine croatian devining rod of retribution upon thine body within the shell of holy kydex. Though the evils of the world, the neckbeards of Satan congregate at Walmart, the sons the Lord need not fear, as they shall be sheltered by the holy sheepdog. I say verily unto you, woof. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I want to steal that quote! It was one of the first verses I learned as an alter boy at the first national church, car wash and video rental when I was a lad. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 9:58:59 AM EDT
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So what's wrong with an XD?
I like my XDM compact just fine, it's my go-to CC gun. Decent shooter. Reliable. Compact. Not seeing the derp? I don't have a Serpa, though...
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:02:35 AM EDT
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I'll be the first to admit that I'm not totally in love with my XD. However, it's worked without fail for thousands of rounds. It's reasonably accurate. It fits my hand and carries well. All that said, I like Glocks better.
However, my wife does not. She can manipulate the XD better than the Glock. She shoots it better than the Glock. I'd rather have a gun that works perfectly, that I shoot well, that can share holster, magazines, etc with the gun my wife carries - than carry a gun I just "like" a little better. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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However, my wife does not. She can manipulate the XD better than the Glock. She shoots it better than the Glock. I'd rather have a gun that works perfectly, that I shoot well, that can share holster, magazines, etc with the gun my wife carries - than carry a gun I just "like" a little better. Not disagreeing with your line of thinking, dude. |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:03:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So is the XD crap too No. They work well. Better grip angle than a Glock, for me. The trigger is....striker. The Glock and M&P fanbois seem to dump on it to validate their choices. The 1911 fanbois dump on it, too, but they dump on everything. I guess I have to buy an M&P, then. I already have an XDM, a Glock, and a 1911. Must ensure I have something for everyone to hate! |
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Posted: 4/18/2014 10:05:20 AM EDT
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I don't always open carry, but when I do it's because my shirt has rode up over my gun.
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