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I didn't watch the whole video but I wouldn't swap an H&K for a Glock ever......
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If you must have striker fire, get cheap and simple, get a Glock.
Ultimate striker fire handgun is like a premium gas station beer. |
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them.
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I dumped the VP9 and went back to my Walther P99.
The Walther has a shorter re-set, and a much crisper and lighter trigger. Both guns are accurate, but the Walther is easier to conceal and I can shoot it faster. The VP9 is an excellent gun, but the Walther is a better pistol. The Glock is ok, but I don't care for the brass ejecting all over the place including into my face, plus the grip feels like shit and the trigger is mushy and heavy and if you lighten it, it will have a mile of creep Fuck dat..
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And to think I almost sold my Glock and bought a VP-9. What a fool I would have been!
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The Walther P99 also has restrike ability, something the Glock and the HK do not have.
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This Agreed. These so-called torture tests are fucking retarded... |
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This Agreed. These so-called torture tests are fucking retarded... Lol, the first one was a mud puddle? |
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A combat handgun failing so hard after a little mud or water is introduced to the action is pathetic. What a POS.
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My vp9 will not cycle cheaper ammo. It's fine with federal but it fails to go into battery 3-4 times a mag with Maxxtech ammo(cheap). Now seeing this vid.... I'm even less impressed
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This It FTF after just being dropped in a water puddle. That's an immediate no go in my book. |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all.
Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. View Quote So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome |
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This Agreed. These so-called torture tests are fucking retarded... Retarded or not, how often does a G19 fail these tests? If I have one gun for real life and SHTF, I won't be carrying clean clothes and a cleaning bench So while I may not throw it at a popper, mud and water isn't that fucking retarded. I've seen what I need to see, my G19 is just fine, glad I sold my HK45 years ago...HK hates me anyway, their gun was a pain to clean and their mags a fucking rip |
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Nah, I'm happy with my Taurus PT111 G2
No problems yet to speak of to date...And its got a slide safety so I won't have to post pics of bloodied jeans and x-rays. Never trust a firearm who's name is synonymous with Emergency Medical Incidents. Glock should have its own ICD-10 code by now. |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. View Quote Does it at least come with a nice hard case? You know to keep the water off of it. |
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I dumped the VP9 and went back to my Walther P99. The Walther has a shorter re-set, and a much crisper and lighter trigger. Both guns are accurate, but the Walther is easier to conceal and I can shoot it faster. The VP9 is an excellent gun, but the Walther is a better pistol. The Glock is ok, but I don't care for the brass ejecting all over the place including into my face, plus the grip feels like shit and the trigger is mushy and heavy and if you lighten it, it will have a mile of creep Fuck dat.. View Quote You know owning glocks since before 2000, There was like a year or 2 the brass to the face issue was present. It was fixed and there is a small cheap part that fixes it. Glocks also have a good, reliable trigger. They get better with age. Every single glock you pick up has an easy to learn, easy to use repeatable trigger. From a G34 down to a little G26, the trigger is consistent. Anyone who can't shoot well with a glock or doesn't like it has a problem between their ears. It has been the gold standard for almost 30 years for a reason. People just like to bitch a moan about irrelevant shit. |
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Quoted: Does it at least come with a nice hard case? You know to keep the water off of it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. Does it at least come with a nice hard case? You know to keep the water off of it. |
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. View Quote I also can't conceive a personal defense situation where your gun might end up in a puddle of water which would seem to cause a failure. |
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So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome I own more glocks & M&Ps (for the GF, she likes the frail gimmicky shit) than HK's. So If anything I'm a Glock/KAC fanboy. I own a bunch of HK's, reliability wise there is nothing that comes close, however their triggers just plain suck. DA/SA or LEM, they fucking suck. VP9 takes the durability of HK and makes it easy to shoot. I have let over a dozen people shoot mine and they all are highly impressed. Its the most accurate (or easiest to shoot accuratley) handgun I have ever owned, and there is some pretty impressive company in there. I'm taking a 4 day vickers class in June and should put another 12-1500 rounds through the VP9. Interested to see how it stacks up to the glocks/M&P's/ect in the class. |
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I dumped the VP9 and went back to my Walther P99. The Walther has a shorter re-set, and a much crisper and lighter trigger. Both guns are accurate, but the Walther is easier to conceal and I can shoot it faster. The VP9 is an excellent gun, but the Walther is a better pistol. The Glock is ok, but I don't care for the brass ejecting all over the place including into my face, plus the grip feels like shit and the trigger is mushy and heavy and if you lighten it, it will have a mile of creep Fuck dat.. View Quote Same here. PPQ/P99>VP9. Although I like the VP9 in my hands better. |
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That ZQI ammo is trash, i have had issues with it leaving my glock out of battery in the same way this VP9 was acting.
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Retarded or not, how often does a G19 fail these tests? If I have one gun for real life and SHTF, I won't be carrying clean clothes and a cleaning bench So while I may not throw it at a popper, mud and water isn't that fucking retarded. I've seen what I need to see, my G19 is just fine, glad I sold my HK45 years ago...HK hates me anyway, their gun was a pain to clean and their mags a fucking rip View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This Agreed. These so-called torture tests are fucking retarded... Retarded or not, how often does a G19 fail these tests? If I have one gun for real life and SHTF, I won't be carrying clean clothes and a cleaning bench So while I may not throw it at a popper, mud and water isn't that fucking retarded. I've seen what I need to see, my G19 is just fine, glad I sold my HK45 years ago...HK hates me anyway, their gun was a pain to clean and their mags a fucking rip Taking a pistol and smashing it against trees and steel is not realistic. I can destroy ANY gun by throwing it with the right amount of force, in the right area against a hard surface. It would not even enter my mind to do something this stupid. For reference, this last summer I was on a camping/cannoe trip and had my VP9 on me. It spent ALOT of time under water and wasn't cleaned/lubed for over a week. Shot the piss out of it and it was flawless (with zero rust). No I didn't put it in a bucket, freeze it and drop it out of a plane. Which scenario do you think is more realistic for someone carrying a VP9? |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. View Quote On a positive note I don't think it rains in hell so your gun should do fine. On the other hand there might be some lava. If water is enough to cause it to fail just imagine what lava would do. |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. Does it at least come with a nice hard case? You know to keep the water off of it. Hopefully it doesn't rain when the operator takes it out to operate with it |
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I don't normally throw my guns at steel targets, wood piles, or intentionally push wet sand/gravel mix in them. So I guess I will stay with my VP9. This Agreed. These so-called torture tests are fucking retarded... I guess bashing it with rocks is cheaper than shooting 20,000 rounds. |
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I own more glocks & M&Ps (for the GF, she likes the frail gimmicky shit) than HK's. So If anything I'm a Glock/KAC fanboy. I own a bunch of HK's, reliability wise there is nothing that comes close, however their triggers just plain suck. DA/SA or LEM, they fucking suck. VP9 takes the durability of HK and makes it easy to shoot. I have let over a dozen people shoot mine and they all are highly impressed. Its the most accurate (or easiest to shoot accuratley) handgun I have ever owned, and there is some pretty impressive company in there. I'm taking a 4 day vickers class in June and should put another 12-1500 rounds through the VP9. Interested to see how it stacks up to the glocks/M&P's/ect in the class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome I own more glocks & M&Ps (for the GF, she likes the frail gimmicky shit) than HK's. So If anything I'm a Glock/KAC fanboy. I own a bunch of HK's, reliability wise there is nothing that comes close, however their triggers just plain suck. DA/SA or LEM, they fucking suck. VP9 takes the durability of HK and makes it easy to shoot. I have let over a dozen people shoot mine and they all are highly impressed. Its the most accurate (or easiest to shoot accuratley) handgun I have ever owned, and there is some pretty impressive company in there. I'm taking a 4 day vickers class in June and should put another 12-1500 rounds through the VP9. Interested to see how it stacks up to the glocks/M&P's/ect in the class. I'm another. I own all of them though thanks to a settlement with someone and I got some bucks. So I have carried my P2K9 for 9 years with several different BUGs. For the past year I've gone to a Shield as my BUG and I may keep it. I put an RMR on a M&P Core. I have a P2Ksk coming in so I'll compare that with the Shield and perhaps a VP9 with an RMR. It will be fun as there are really no bad guns in the group. |
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I own more glocks & M&Ps (for the GF, she likes the frail gimmicky shit) than HK's. So If anything I'm a Glock/KAC fanboy. I own a bunch of HK's, reliability wise there is nothing that comes close, however their triggers just plain suck. DA/SA or LEM, they fucking suck. VP9 takes the durability of HK and makes it easy to shoot. I have let over a dozen people shoot mine and they all are highly impressed. Its the most accurate (or easiest to shoot accuratley) handgun I have ever owned, and there is some pretty impressive company in there. I'm taking a 4 day vickers class in June and should put another 12-1500 rounds through the VP9. Interested to see how it stacks up to the glocks/M&P's/ect in the class. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome I own more glocks & M&Ps (for the GF, she likes the frail gimmicky shit) than HK's. So If anything I'm a Glock/KAC fanboy. I own a bunch of HK's, reliability wise there is nothing that comes close, however their triggers just plain suck. DA/SA or LEM, they fucking suck. VP9 takes the durability of HK and makes it easy to shoot. I have let over a dozen people shoot mine and they all are highly impressed. Its the most accurate (or easiest to shoot accuratley) handgun I have ever owned, and there is some pretty impressive company in there. I'm taking a 4 day vickers class in June and should put another 12-1500 rounds through the VP9. Interested to see how it stacks up to the glocks/M&P's/ect in the class. What happens if you put fireclean on it? Does Vickers address that? |
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The VP9 is the finest combat pistol I have ever shot. I have been shooting glocks for over 15 years and own/owned them all. Stock to fully worked over custom guns, I would take the VP9 over any of them. For whatever reason, its an absolute laser and stacks rounds with ease. I really could care less what some mouthbreather small sample size backyard test says. HK guns just plain work. If I could own 1 handgun to take to hell and back, it would be a VP9. Yet to have one malf between 3 guns with about 7k rounds combined. Yes that is a small sample, but more than enough confidence for these 3 guns. Bonus is an amazing trigger and easily conceals IWB. Glock 19 & 26's just get left at home now. Probably should start selling them and buy some more VP9's. I think a half dozen would do. So you're the one HK fanboi in here Welcome No, he's a retread. |
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The test was a little over the top towards the end with the tossing. But the vp9 choking after being submerged in a puddle is unacceptable. I would even give it a pass in the mud and grit test because you could hear it grinding In the slide, but the water puddle.. You gotta be kidding me..
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