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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:05:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That dude in the meme survived, skull fracture and chest brokies. That's one tough sumbitch. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:07:52 PM EDT
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I just replaced a blink camera with a eufy stand+alone w/solar panel over the cars in the driveway. The blink would just stop working after a time. I would have to pull batteries to reset and get motion detection working again.
I like the eufy app better. More responsive. I still have blink at my front door and back yard. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:14:16 PM EDT
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I have a hardwired unifi system with dream machine pro. It was a steep learning curve with no tech support but I have it mostly figured out now. I want to expand but cameras are super hard to find now.
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:36:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hikvision or Dahua running in Blueiris https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169304/call_box_2020-04-13_04_37_40_306_AM-1365747.jpg I use Hikvision with Blue Iris. It’s been very reliable over the years. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poe wired is still the best. Get 8MP resolution Reolink Amcrest Hikvision Quote HistoryQuoted: Poe wired is still the best. Get 8MP resolution Reolink Amcrest Hikvision This. My vote goes to Hikvision. Quoted: If you’re talking a real system, find an Avigilon integrator. If you’re just looking for a big box solution, I think the Arlos aren’t Chinese made. Hikvision, Lorex, Dahua, they’re all Chinese made and are likely to have back doors built in. What’s the risk at your home? Eh, probably not big, but does it make you feel weird that some dude in Shanghai can look in on you? Wired POE is the only way to go. But then, you’re probably not worried about your home network being hacked. Work maybe, maybe not. Just about any maker could have a back door by design OR someone figured one out. One of the quickest ways to tell if a manufacturer is security conscious is if they have firmware updates available on a regular basis for their equipment. If not, it is a given they only care about pushing out the equipment and have no intention of closing back doors or other security flaws discovered after the product has been released. And NO manufacturer can truthfully claim their cams are unhackable so there is never a need for a firmware update. If a NVR or camera manufacturer never has any firmware updates, steer clear of them. |
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Posted: 5/10/2022 11:46:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you’re talking a real system, find an Avigilon integrator. If you’re just looking for a big box solution, I think the Arlos aren’t Chinese made. Hikvision, Lorex, Dahua, they’re all Chinese made and are likely to have back doors built in. What’s the risk at your home? Eh, probably not big, but does it make you feel weird that some dude in Shanghai can look in on you? Wired POE is the only way to go. But then, you’re probably not worried about your home network being hacked. Work maybe, maybe not. Nothing wrong with the Chinesium cameras. You just have to know how to cut them off from phoning home. Almost all my cameras are Dahuas. Some of them have been going 24/7 for 5+ years...rain, snow, heat, hurricanes, whatever...they rarely quit. I have them on their own subnet with no gateway, and a second NIC in my BI PC on the same subnet. The traffic on the IP camera subnet is unroutable, so nothing can phone home. I VPN into my network if I want to view the cameras with the BI app, so no ports have to be opened at the perimeter for web server access. The added benefit of Blue Iris is direct Deepstack integration. That is some pretty awesome AI, especially with a decent GPU (since you can run multiple instances in parallel). False positives for motion detection are almost unheard of now. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:43:34 AM EDT
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I also use Reolink. They have been pretty good about support and updates and listening to feedback..
I have 1 amcrest, biggest price of shit ever, software hasn't been updated for about 2 years, garbage design, garbage UI.. garbage all around. They are both china.. But Reolink cares a little bit.. amcrest doesn't. Are Reolinks perfect? Nope, sometimes they hiccup a bit if i'm streaming hi-res and other times they'll be fine. I use them MOSTLY wired, as wireless isn't great for any system in reality, but they've been worth the money I paid except one that flaked out, which they promptly replaced and let us keep the old broken one. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:46:34 AM EDT
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We have Arlo Pro cameras. I got tired of changing batteries about once every other week. So I got solar panels compatible with the Pro cameras. Batteries stay at 100% day and night.
We have 4 cameras set up around the house. I have a 5th camera I need to set up, just haven't gotten around to it yet. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:09:25 AM EDT
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I have a POE 4mp hikvision setup.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:15:48 AM EDT
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I really like my Ubiquiti setup. I have both wired and Wireless and am very happy with their performance. I get about 60 days of continuous recoding on 4 cameras.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 8:03:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much AI is built into a system like this? Does it send motion alerts? Can you set a detection zone? Can you set it to only detect people or vehicles? |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 8:59:13 AM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:07:09 AM EDT
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OP, google and youtube 'Nelly's security" they have two brands of POE wired cameras., Both plug and play with the matching NVR. watch all their videos, they go from basic to advanced. UNI is their better brand and has advanced AI.
Hikvision and others are not NDAA compliant. that is why Nelly's dropped them. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:21:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blink cameras going on 7 years now, quite sufficient for my needs. Our Blink crapped out after 1 year. And they would record when there was no motion. Visual quality was good though. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:26:11 AM EDT
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I use unifi cameras, I've got a mix of cameras around the house.
The reason I went with them and not something else is because I was building out a unifi network anyway, and didn't want to pay for access monthly for some other asshole in a datacenter somewhere to have access to my cameras. The recordings stay with me on site. It's not a perfect system, but overall pretty good. With the 6 cameras I have now, I get about 35 days of 1440p recordings on an 8tb HDD. Nice thing about protect is the NVR is built into the UDM pro, so the double duty it pulls as a switch and firewall plus NVR is a bonus. Downside is availability and cost.. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:26:27 AM EDT
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If you have less than 8 cameras, get Axis cameras and Milestone VMS.
I have that setup at my house and I have an 8TB drive in my PC for video storage. It is more expensive than the commie cams you mentioned, but you get out of systems what you put into them. NEVER USE WIRELESS Wire everything. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 9:57:26 AM EDT
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I’m looking for advice as well.
I’m pretty much sold on Ubiquiti. I have their APs, the latest POE switch, and getting a Dream Machine Pro delivered this week. Love the app. I want to get their cameras. What wired cameras should I be looking at? I need something that’ll survive outdoors, NV out of the box, I want something that’s not obsolete and not cutting edge (don’t want to pay for that). Is there a sweet spot for those requirements? I know finding anything Ubiquiti is going to be the real issue. I don’t mind getting a couple of cameras at a time. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:03:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m looking for advice as well. I’m pretty much sold on Ubiquiti. I have their APs, the latest POE switch, and getting a Dream Machine Pro delivered this week. Love the app. I want to get their cameras. What wired cameras should I be looking at? I need something that’ll survive outdoors, NV out of the box, I want something that’s not obsolete and not cutting edge (don’t want to pay for that). Is there a sweet spot for those requirements? I know finding anything Ubiquiti is going to be the real issue. I don’t mind getting a couple of cameras at a time. I use mainly g4 cameras, (have one g3 flex in the garage) Mine have been outdoors for over a year now, no issues so far. I do hang them under eaves to try and provide some protection, but I'm sure they'd be fine without the eaves as well. they're 1440p, and have decent nightvision, plus gig ethernet, the g3's have 100mbps FE. Not like it really matters performance wise, but just something to be aware of. The G4 is probably your best bet, not crazy expensive, fairly new and good performers. Wish the FOV was wider on them, but tradeoffs and all that. G3 is not bad, but only 1080p and the G4 is only $50 more. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:13:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I use mainly g4 cameras, (have one g3 flex in the garage) Mine have been outdoors for over a year now, no issues so far. I do hang them under eaves to try and provide some protection, but I'm sure they'd be fine without the eaves as well. they're 1440p, and have decent nightvision, plus gig ethernet, the g3's have 100mbps FE. Not like it really matters performance wise, but just something to be aware of. The G4 is probably your best bet, not crazy expensive, fairly new and good performers. Wish the FOV was wider on them, but tradeoffs and all that. G3 is not bad, but only 1080p and the G4 is only $50 more. What he said. G4 is fine. There are actually a handful of negative review on the G4 Pro and moisture behind the glass last I saw. Plus, the price/performance isn't really there. I managed to snag two of the G3 Instants and those are great for a "mobile" camera to watch a spot "temporarily". By that I mean, it is wifi connected so you wouldn't want to rely on it. However, I've been able to plug it into a 20,000 mAh battery and it run forever. It is however not weather resistant at all. The G3 Flex is nice, but definitely the bottom of quality I would ever get. Mine looks at a rollup door so it is fine for that. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:14:41 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on arfcoms recommendations I went with a Reolink system. The only real downside to the system is the motion alerts suck. Way too sensitive if you live in the woods. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:15:24 AM EDT
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I have several types. Harbor Freight 6 cam kit wired into a hidden recorder, Wyze and Ring that alert on my phone. The Wyze cams are very easily hidden inside the house.
Helped locate a lost dog a few days ago with my security cams. Only use it has gotten except for peace of mind (knocks wood). |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:18:45 AM EDT
[#22]
We run a Lorex 8 camera system with a 1TB recorder. The only wiring is the power to the cameras. Great clarity, and the has the range for the 2 cameras on my shop 300 feet away.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vivotek or Geovision are about the best value and aren't Chinese, but Korean. Dahua and Hikvision and the many relabels are Chinese. Vivotek cams are awesome. I use Axis at home. Also awesome. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:25:57 AM EDT
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I have a bunch of 8yr old Hikvision cameras and an NVR that have been running without any attention since I installed them. I'm thinking of upgrading some of the cameras to newer, higher resolution ones but the old 3mp aren't too bad. Even knowing what I do now about Hikvision and some of the other Chinese cameras, I'd probably still buy them again. Put them on their own wired network and forget about it.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:31:35 AM EDT
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I already use Ubiquiti for my network gear. Once I finally get around to running cables to my attic I will be getting the Unifi cameras.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:37:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hikvision or Dahua running in Blueiris https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/169304/call_box_2020-04-13_04_37_40_306_AM-1365747.jpg This is the same setup I am running. A great way to go for DIY if you a bit technical... |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:41:19 AM EDT
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I use the Blink system and I really like it!
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Posted: 5/11/2022 10:42:19 AM EDT
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Quoted: My wife is a security nut. She told me to ask the hive what security camera set up would be good for home and my shop? Wired or Wi-Fi? We have the Ring but I think it’s lame. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance guys. Security is LAYERED Good Security requires MULTIPLE Layers I would initially go with Wireless as most thieves and home invaders aren't going to hack the system, then I would put in a second and different system that is wired on the odd chance that the thief/invader is tech savvy. Security should have an Outer layer, an inner compound layer, and an internal layer with safe rooms. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:04:52 AM EDT
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Dahua cameras w/ the Sony Starlight sensor wired to an NVR accessible via VPN.
AI features: motion, trip lines, missing objects, etc. PTZ camera offer tracking which I don't use but do have the camera zoom into a trip wire area when breached. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:28:03 AM EDT
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I installed an eight channel reolink system. I have 5 hardwired cameras mounted outside and one wireless that I can setup in the house when we go on vacation. I haven't had any problems. I think they are 4K 8mp with night vision. I can remotely view them from my phone or computer at work.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:32:04 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a hardwired unifi system with dream machine pro. It was a steep learning curve with no tech support but I have it mostly figured out now. I want to expand but cameras are super hard to find now. I would love to switch to a UniFi NVR but their insistence on being a closed system is a dealbreaker. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:32:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing wrong with the Chinesium cameras. You just have to know how to cut them off from phoning home. Almost all my cameras are Dahuas. Some of them have been going 24/7 for 5+ years...rain, snow, heat, hurricanes, whatever...they rarely quit. I have them on their own subnet with no gateway, and a second NIC in my BI PC on the same subnet. The traffic on the IP camera subnet is unroutable, so nothing can phone home. I VPN into my network if I want to view the cameras with the BI app, so no ports have to be opened at the perimeter for web server access. The added benefit of Blue Iris is direct Deepstack integration. That is some pretty awesome AI, especially with a decent GPU (since you can run multiple instances in parallel). False positives for motion detection are almost unheard of now. I have them firewalled off to. They do want to chat. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:37:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would love to switch to a UniFi NVR but their insistence on being a closed system is a dealbreaker. As opposed to…? |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:40:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As opposed to…? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would love to switch to a UniFi NVR but their insistence on being a closed system is a dealbreaker. As opposed to…? Supporting onvif cameras. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:55:19 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Supporting onvif cameras. Yeah understood. UniFi is just now getting to h265 in some of their cameras. Ubiquiti likes Ubiquiti |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 11:58:50 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OP, google and youtube 'Nelly's security" they have two brands of POE wired cameras., Both plug and play with the matching NVR. watch all their videos, they go from basic to advanced. UNI is their better brand and has advanced AI. Hikvision and others are not NDAA compliant. that is why Nelly's dropped them. Nellys is great but you do realize who the OEM for their cameras are right? Mostly Hikvision. Also, Nellys sells both NDAA and Non-NDAA compliant cameras. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 12:34:48 PM EDT
[#37]
Nelly's used to have their "H" series cameras, they were Hikvision. they no longer carry them. I called and to be honest I do not remember who they said the OEM is, but it was not Hikvision. If you call they are very open on who they use.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 12:50:33 PM EDT
[#38]
Motown_Steve gave me quite a few Hikvisions. Gonna get a POE switch and keep em off the internet.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:41:12 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nelly's used to have their "H" series cameras, they were Hikvision. they no longer carry them. I called and to be honest I do not remember who they said the OEM is, but it was not Hikvision. If you call they are very open on who they use. Lately I see a lot of UNV (Uniview) cameras on Nellys. Made in the same city in China right along Hikvision and Dahua. Don't get me wrong Nellys is great I love their garage sale site. UNV uses the same chips and was found to have the same/similar back door as Dahua and others. This isn't towards you. My point is that it doesn't matter what brand of camera you buy. If your not taking the proper steps on your local network to secure and segregate the cams then what's the point. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:48:51 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:49:35 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: WTF? ?? I hope he survived. WOW Quote Historydoubt it, looked like it may have broken his neck. that looked like a CNS hit. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:53:50 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lorex Nocturnal series. Wired. There is not a single light in my driveway on: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/485801/Screenshot_20220510-205305_Lorex_Cloud_j-2379507.JPG Edit: the quality is compressed in live mode for web access, but is stored in high definition on the DVR for playback or on the station monitor. That confused me for a little while at first. which Lorex system? I am looking to replace my old Lorex |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 1:55:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on arfcoms recommendations I went with a Reolink system. I was so impressed I have installed 6 systems for all of my friends and family. Very good camera quality and the app is top notch. The only real downside to the system is the motion alerts suck. Way too sensitive if you live in the woods. So basically I use it as a cctv so I can keep an eye on everything when I'm at work (I work from home). I also use a Nest doorbell camera and a Nest inside camera that I use as a nanny cam that allows me to keep an eye on the kids inside when I'm working. I prefer the nest for inside since I can stream a single camera to a Google home hub (I can also display the doorbell camera from the home hub). which one, all I saw on their website was cameras, do they have a DVR also? |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:02:14 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a bunch of 8yr old Hikvision cameras and an NVR that have been running without any attention since I installed them. I'm thinking of upgrading some of the cameras to newer, higher resolution ones but the old 3mp aren't too bad. Even knowing what I do now about Hikvision and some of the other Chinese cameras, I'd probably still buy them again. Put them on their own wired network and forget about it. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:13:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I cannot speak highly enough for Unifi Protect personally. There is no subscription, the data is recorded locally so no cloud to snoop on your cameras, it is closed circuit but IP based. The prices aren't horrible though stock is really hard to come by right now. B&H Photo Video is a good source if the UI store is out of stock some times too. I also recommend Unifi cameras. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:25:12 PM EDT
[#46]
Another vote for Reolink wired. I installed mine this last winter and has been great. I have 4 cams in and around my show pointing towards my house and driveway and also just added one on my front porch. The nvr is in the shop and the wired one on the porch works flawlessly going over my network and wireless bridge.
The only real complaint I have is rain and snow make the alerts for motion go nuts. You would think if it could identify a vehicle or person it would be able to identify precipitation and not send an alert but other than that I like the system. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 2:26:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Cheap and easy is blink. That’s what I use at my house and rentals.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 3:32:59 PM EDT
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I have the newest version of blink. They are great, very clear, wireless, can yell at kids to get off my lawn, and don't need a subscription everything is stored on a usb hard drive. The only annoying thing is how much they alert my phone when it is windy because of braches or wind chimes. Even if I turn off the motion in that part of the picture. Doors and Door bell have Eufy.
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Posted: 5/11/2022 3:47:28 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a hardwired unifi system with dream machine pro. It was a steep learning curve with no tech support but I have it mostly figured out now. I want to expand but cameras are super hard to find now. I have the dream pro but no cams ever in stock. I din't buy the dream pro for the protect side but now I have it I might as well throw a cam or two up to back up my nest door bell. One day I will ditch the nest thing. |
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Posted: 5/11/2022 3:59:34 PM EDT
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Old fashion tag
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