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Posted: 1/18/2021 3:57:06 PM EDT
[#1]
@JoeJeeps
I’m picking up what you are laying down, had the same thoughts. Learn it, but stay out of the system. The people saying “you need to learn and practice” are correct. To practice, you need to be licensed, yet, is contrary to staying out of the system. I find the “4473 is the same” crowd a bit amusing. .gov will need to go digging through paper copies to see what has been purchased over the years. HAM license are in an electronic, searchable public format. Which one is easier to exploit? The same people preaching about being the” Grey man” get all wound up about being a legit license holder. I see both sides of the argument, but there are some with panties so tight they do not understand your point. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 3:57:15 PM EDT
[#2]
I count 16 repeaters (privately owned) within 20 miles of my current location. If the government comes to shut down 16 repeaters, there a good chance they’ve already gotten the guns.
When Katrina hit years ago the only communication coming out of New Orleans was ham radio. Ham was used to coordinate logistic until normal communications could be restored. Ham radio does have its place and limitations. I enjoy the hobby and have met many like minded people I otherwise wouldn’t have meet without the connection to ham. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 3:57:57 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking at makeshift antennas on Youtube. It doesn't seem as hard as a lot of people here want it to be. Again, I'm just looking to be able to listen to people like yourself though. I'll never have any important intel to pass along. I'm a nobody and I like to keep it that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Give me 5 watts, a carrier signal and a simple dipole and I could talk to the world. And space even! I have 1,000's of contacts worldwide on low power morse code. I've been looking at makeshift antennas on Youtube. It doesn't seem as hard as a lot of people here want it to be. Again, I'm just looking to be able to listen to people like yourself though. I'll never have any important intel to pass along. I'm a nobody and I like to keep it that way.  I've seen those guys at Camp Perry shoot. Doesn't look that hard. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 3:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, this radio stuff is kind of like engineering and shit. It ain't cell phone where there's countless billions of dollars worth of technology to make it simple. This is me and another guy "chatting" on a digital mode ... 1200 miles apart ... each using less than 5 watts of power but with nice antennas and radios costing maybe as cheap as $400-$500 dollars. To get that to work you got get shit right or it doesn't work. Sorry but the sun will be a cold glowing ember in the sky before you figure out which of the dozens of knobs and switches to move to what position let alone know what kind of antenna to use, where to mount it, and most importantly how to tune it. There are tutors (loving called Elmers) who teach others how to do this ... what other appliance in your house required hours and hours of study, a test so that you know what you're doing, and then requires a tutor to assist you. Clubs of these clever people form up and they cross teach each other the math, the science, and magic that is RF communications. Yeah, they tend not to be kids at the Extra and even the General. Lots of Tech licenses to be sure .. And what kind of earth shattering things do you chat about? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 3:59:20 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: And you're going to go set that Baofeng on the nearest mountain and your club will continue to use it like nothing happened.  I don't believe I said anything of the sort. They can be useful in increasing range for other baofengs. I have ht's that can be use as cross band repeaters. There are ways to set up local networks if needed rather cheaply. Having a license lets one practice this for fun in case it is ever needed. Doesn't have to be shtf, just a local event that has taken out cell towers for a few days. I live rural, and having the ability to get in touch with fire police and ems could be done with a network of ham radios. Getting a license isn't necessarily putting you on any "list". If it does, well IDGAF. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:02:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I definitely recommend it, especially when you first get your license. If I switched over to a PO box it would still be easy to look up my address through past applications. But then again, if you had my name and city you could just look up my address on the county property list. Which leads us back to, there's nothing stopping us from being on a list just by being on this site. The difference being that my name is not public on this site. The site would need to release it to the authorities or get hacked I guess. Either are possibilities, but those seem like lesser risks than just putting my name, call sign, and address out there for public consumption. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:02:43 PM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... I find the “4473 is the same” crowd a bit amusing. .gov will need to go digging through paper copies to see what has been purchased over the years. HAM license are in an electronic, searchable public format. Which one is easier to exploit? ... You are half right. Unfortunately you are right in the least important area. The 4473 crowd is amusing. The gov will simply need to get from the large corporations who has made purchases from gun shops or ranges, who has visited gun ranges, and who is members of gun groups online. That's easy and actually gets you to your goal sooner than harassing a group that is largely beyond fighting age. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've been looking at makeshift antennas on Youtube. It doesn't seem as hard as a lot of people here want it to be. Again, I'm just looking to be able to listen to people like yourself though. I'll never have any important intel to pass along. I'm a nobody and I like to keep it that way. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Give me 5 watts, a carrier signal and a simple dipole and I could talk to the world. And space even! I have 1,000's of contacts worldwide on low power morse code. I've been looking at makeshift antennas on Youtube. It doesn't seem as hard as a lot of people here want it to be. Again, I'm just looking to be able to listen to people like yourself though. I'll never have any important intel to pass along. I'm a nobody and I like to keep it that way. For a receive only antenna, there are a lot of simple element designs that work quite well. BUT, when you start transmitting, VSWR becomes very important. And no, not all antennas are anywhere near "simple" ! You'd be amazed at the amount of computer modeling required to optimize a "simple" looking design |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:03:58 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: if you are thinking its something you could use when civil war 2.0 starts you are daft. if you think there is gonna be a civil war 2.0, you are double daft. if you want to get into ham radio, have at it. its full of boomers talking about the weather, their grandkids, their rig and they most recent surgeries. it is probably useful for emergencies like earthquakes, hurricanes and similar regional disasters as it is something you can use to communicate with the outside world when other normal forms of communication fair. but this assumes you and the gubernment are on the same side. You basically just repeated my first post. As to your second point, there will most certainly be another war on American soil. Whether that happens within our lifetimes nobody knows. Time will tell. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:05:10 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The difference being that my name is not public on this site. The site would need to release it to the authorities or get hacked I guess. Either are possibilities, but those seem like lesser risks than just putting my name, call sign, and address out there for public consumption. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I definitely recommend it, especially when you first get your license. If I switched over to a PO box it would still be easy to look up my address through past applications. But then again, if you had my name and city you could just look up my address on the county property list. Which leads us back to, there's nothing stopping us from being on a list just by being on this site. The difference being that my name is not public on this site. The site would need to release it to the authorities or get hacked I guess. Either are possibilities, but those seem like lesser risks than just putting my name, call sign, and address out there for public consumption. You are worried about edge cases of the ham community being targeted, but then don't care about the fact that your activation email from here was sent in clear text through ISPs and email servers. There's a good chance you used the same email address at a dozen other sites that know who you really are. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:05:18 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I decided to get my license. I'm getting technician, I might even try for general too if I get time to study this week. I already have NFA items so fuck it, what's one more list? Like you are not already on list anyway. Most I've talked too that got their general wished they had just gone ahead and finished the Extra exam. So much of the knowledge is shared and it's not a whole lot more to study at all. Not a great leap in available frequencies but still nice to just have the callsign. It took me so long to actually get into an exam, (always on the road) that when I did I ran all three exams in one sitting. Easy-peasy. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:05:40 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I count 16 repeaters (privately owned) within 20 miles of my current location. If the government comes to shut down 16 repeaters, there a good chance they've already gotten the guns. When Katrina hit years ago the only communication coming out of New Orleans was ham radio. Ham was used to coordinate logistic until normal communications could be restored. Ham radio does have its place and limitations. I enjoy the hobby and have met many like minded people I otherwise wouldn't have meet without the connection to ham. Friend was an ER nurse at the charity hospital that flooded in New Orleans. They had ONE land lline phone going in/out the entire time. He couldn't call someone in New Orleans or his wife in Baton Rouge. He could call me in East, Texas and I relayed some calls for him, he'd call me and say he was okay and I'd call and tell his wife in Baton Rouge. After a while peoples cell phones batteries died and they didn't have numbers of people to call. Always have in your wallet at least a couple of phone numbers in case you need it without your phone. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:06:17 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You basically just repeated my first post. As to your second point, there will most certainly be another war on American soil. Whether that happens within our lifetimes nobody knows. Time will tell. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: if you are thinking its something you could use when civil war 2.0 starts you are daft. if you think there is gonna be a civil war 2.0, you are double daft. if you want to get into ham radio, have at it. its full of boomers talking about the weather, their grandkids, their rig and they most recent surgeries. it is probably useful for emergencies like earthquakes, hurricanes and similar regional disasters as it is something you can use to communicate with the outside world when other normal forms of communication fair. but this assumes you and the gubernment are on the same side. You basically just repeated my first post. As to your second point, there will most certainly be another war on American soil. Whether that happens within our lifetimes nobody knows. Time will tell. Yet you think that this thing you believe is not useful in a civil war and is full of old guys talking about the weather is what will get you targeted? 1+1=Potatoe 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:07:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Most I've talked too that got their general wished they had just gone ahead and finished the Extra exam. So much of the knowledge is shared and it's not a whole lot more to study at all. Not a great leap in available frequencies but still nice to just have the callsign. It took me so long to actually get into an exam, (always on the road) that when I did I ran all three exams in one sitting. Easy-peasy. Nice. And my callsign is an old 1x3, not a lot of reason to switch up to a 2x2. 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:08:28 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What is your SHTF scenario? Who do you plan to talk with the guy on the other end of the country, world, or your like minded buddies you hav been training and prepping with? If it is the latter perhaps a decent CB set up. If it is a true bullets flying scenario the FCC worrying about you using more than the legal limit of power isn't gonna be on your top priority list. Even with say 200 RMS watts you would be shocked how far you can talk. Yes, I realize that is illegal, but again if bullets are flying are you gonna be worried? It is a means to communicate not chat about your back pain and weather We're pretty much in agreement. I only want to be able to communicate with close friends and family in my immediate vicinity. HF would be for gathering intel from the outside world, but again I'd only be listening in. I highly doubt I'd ever have anything important enough to transmit. My SHTF scenario would be some sort of media blackout. Or if balkanization occurs within the US I assume I'd be behind enemy lines...so hearing transmissions from the free world would come in handy. 
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:08:32 PM EDT
[#16]
Whatever. Still studying for my license and planning on taking the test.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:08:50 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Based on the current political climate, I can't find anything to disagree with in your post. The learning/training involved in attaining your amateur radio license is not just a license to transmit, it's a license to build and hack and learn your way around radios in general...something that's proven useful in conflicts throughout history. I agree. I printed off a 100 page guide to take the tech test and studied this past weekend and took several practice tests. I appreciate the new knowledge base I just learned. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:09:26 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We're pretty much in agreement. I only want to be able to communicate with close friends and family in my immediate vicinity. HF would be for gathering intel from the outside world, but again I'd only be listening in. I highly doubt I'd ever have anything important enough to transmit. My SHTF scenario would be some sort of media blackout. Or if balkanization occurs within the US I assume I'd be behind enemy lines...so hearing transmissions from the free world would come in handy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What is your SHTF scenario? Who do you plan to talk with the guy on the other end of the country, world, or your like minded buddies you hav been training and prepping with? If it is the latter perhaps a decent CB set up. If it is a true bullets flying scenario the FCC worrying about you using more than the legal limit of power isn't gonna be on your top priority list. Even with say 200 RMS watts you would be shocked how far you can talk. Yes, I realize that is illegal, but again if bullets are flying are you gonna be worried? It is a means to communicate not chat about your back pain and weather We're pretty much in agreement. I only want to be able to communicate with close friends and family in my immediate vicinity. HF would be for gathering intel from the outside world, but again I'd only be listening in. I highly doubt I'd ever have anything important enough to transmit. My SHTF scenario would be some sort of media blackout. Or if balkanization occurs within the US I assume I'd be behind enemy lines...so hearing transmissions from the free world would come in handy. Some FRS blister packs and a shortwave receiver meet your requirements. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:09:26 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are half right. Unfortunately you are right in the least important area. The 4473 crowd is amusing. The gov will simply need to get from the large corporations who has made purchases from gun shops or ranges, who has visited gun ranges, and who is members of gun groups online. That's easy and actually gets you to your goal sooner than harassing a group that is largely beyond fighting age. Agreed, all the information can be tracked down. However, one situation will take more of a targeted approach, the other not so much resources involved. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:11:37 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Oy, vey. It is unlawful for to use the U.S. mail to facilitate many crimes. It is unlawful to cross a state line to facilitate many crimes. If the FCC notice is the reason you don’t get licensed, perhaps your paranoia has reached the level where professional help is needed...... What if they make "conservative speak" illegal? They're talking about it on CNN. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:11:55 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Agreed, all the information can be tracked down. However, one situation will take more of a targeted approach, the other not so much resources involved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are half right. Unfortunately you are right in the least important area. The 4473 crowd is amusing. The gov will simply need to get from the large corporations who has made purchases from gun shops or ranges, who has visited gun ranges, and who is members of gun groups online. That's easy and actually gets you to your goal sooner than harassing a group that is largely beyond fighting age. Agreed, all the information can be tracked down. However, one situation will take more of a targeted approach, the other not so much resources involved. Targeted? Sure. I question the choice of a center of gravity to expend any effort against in the ham roster. Be better to just use OpenSecrets at that point. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:12:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if they make "conservative speak" illegal? They're talking about it on CNN. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oy, vey. It is unlawful for to use the U.S. mail to facilitate many crimes. It is unlawful to cross a state line to facilitate many crimes. If the FCC notice is the reason you don’t get licensed, perhaps your paranoia has reached the level where professional help is needed...... What if they make "conservative speak" illegal? They're talking about it on CNN. Then you should have stopped posting on this site a long time ago. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:12:54 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The shit people come up with here to worry about... two weeks ago I would have probably agreed with you. Now? Not so much I agree with OP. I'm rethinking every interaction I have with the govt of this country. They are not on my side |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:13:55 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oy, vey. It is unlawful for to use the U.S. mail to facilitate many crimes. It is unlawful to cross a state line to facilitate many crimes. If the FCC notice is the reason you don’t get licensed, perhaps your paranoia has reached the level where professional help is needed...... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/download_jpg-1785234.JPG What happens when they make conservative ideas "hate speech". Then all of a sudden you can't transmit basic conservative tenets over the radio. It's already been happening and the pace is speeding up. Wake up. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:14:24 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: two weeks ago I would have probably agreed with you. Now? Not so much I agree with OP. I'm rethinking every interaction I have with the govt of this country. They are not on my side Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The shit people come up with here to worry about... two weeks ago I would have probably agreed with you. Now? Not so much I agree with OP. I'm rethinking every interaction I have with the govt of this country. They are not on my side Do you have a CCW? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:15:39 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What happens when they make conservative ideas "hate speech". Then all of a sudden you can't transmit basic conservative tenets over the radio. It's already been happening and the pace is speeding up. Wake up. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Oy, vey. It is unlawful for to use the U.S. mail to facilitate many crimes. It is unlawful to cross a state line to facilitate many crimes. If the FCC notice is the reason you don’t get licensed, perhaps your paranoia has reached the level where professional help is needed...... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/66085/download_jpg-1785234.JPG What happens when they make conservative ideas "hate speech". Then all of a sudden you can't transmit basic conservative tenets over the radio. It's already been happening and the pace is speeding up. Wake up. Okay. I'll still practice on the radio talking about the weather and tech stuff. You'll still expect to magic it together when needed. I'm still ahead in the game. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:15:48 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are other SHTF scenarios besides our own government hunting down and destroying HAM operations. Yes there are, and I'll be able to listen in for any interesting tidbits. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:16:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How do you develop ability without practice and experience? How do you plan to practice and gain experience when almost nobody will talk to you because you don't have a callsign? Use someone else's callsign. Make one up. Talk to other people who don't give a shit about call signs? There's soon to be alot, according to CNN. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:17:06 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where is the switch that shuts down ham radio? It won't require a switch. They'll just outlaw it like they've done before during world events. And all the good little licensees will comply. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:18:19 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Easy to say until you get some tard dumping a 100w of RF energy into you legitimate business operations Did they find the guy? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:20:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Targeted? Sure. I question the choice of a center of gravity to expend any effort against in the ham roster. Be better to just use OpenSecrets at that point. All the points made are valid. Paranoia, tin foil hat? Possibly. It seems things are changing at a faster pace than what we have seen in the past. Last year, would you ever thought that arfcom would have to pull the archives to maintain some PERSEC? There is a disturbance in the force, I think we can all agree on that one. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:21:13 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The thing I do not like is that in their regulations: "Your base station can and will be inspected at any time without prior notice". You just gave away your 4th amendment right.  If that's even close to accurate I'm out. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:22:15 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are two different things. MURS to the best of my understanding can't use encryption. Businesses using licensed frequencies may use encryption. Thanks, that's what I figured. To my knowledge no civi radio communications can LEGALLY be encrypted. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:23:18 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Easy to say until you get some tard dumping a 100w of RF energy into you legitimate business operations Yup, or comes up on your industrial remote control channel and causes your overhead crane to perform unexpected operations. Or starts talking on the radio frequencies your hospital uses for telemetry, etc. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:23:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You've reached a conclusion on a course of action with frankly questionable assumptions. Why are hams going to get doxxed by liberals? Sorry, I should have said "may be doxxed." Happy? I feel that way because they would love to shut down all forms of "unregulated" conservative speech. Just watch the news or open up Gab. It's disgusting what's going on right now. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:25:35 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What if they make "conservative speak" illegal? They're talking about it on CNN. If we get to that level, it will be completely irrelevant whether you are in the FCC’s database or not. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:25:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, that's what I figured. To my knowledge no civi radio communications can LEGALLY be encrypted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are two different things. MURS to the best of my understanding can't use encryption. Businesses using licensed frequencies may use encryption. Thanks, that's what I figured. To my knowledge no civi radio communications can LEGALLY be encrypted. Civilian, yes Hobbiest, no |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:25:49 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I still haven't heard how the government is going to take control of the repeater at Joe's house. If Joe or anyone using his repeater transmits "hate speech" Joe gets shut down. It won't matter if they physically come take his equipment, he's a rule follower and he will comply. If not, they come take his shit. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:26:43 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So you think that every ham is going to get doxxed by liberals? Careful who you call mouth breathers. You’re projecting. No actually, I was non-specific. You seem to be pretty pointed, however. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:26:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There are HAM nerds out there that can figure out where you're broadcasting from and sic the FCC on you if you're unlicensed. doesn't this really just apply if you're doing it from your home? if you're mobile then what's the concern? |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:31:13 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. The first two points are called living in reality. You are worried about being on a list while failing to appreciate you're already on the list. And expecting to just jump right into HF when folks that do it regularly are always tweaking their stuff and techniques to to get better is as laughable as buying a shotgun and box of shells to bury and figure out how to use when the balloon goes up. Long story short, you're making the 1% of this site that's sane look bad. You can't see that you are using logical fallacies as arguments. You're assuming there are lists to begin with. You're assuming I'm on said lists. All the while, you fail to recognize that a person can be okay with being on list A while not wanting to be on list B (because list A is private and list B is public for instance). They are two different things. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:32:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @JoeJeeps I’m picking up what you are laying down, had the same thoughts. Learn it, but stay out of the system. The people saying “you need to learn and practice” are correct. To practice, you need to be licensed, yet, is contrary to staying out of the system. I find the “4473 is the same” crowd a bit amusing. .gov will need to go digging through paper copies to see what has been purchased over the years. HAM license are in an electronic, searchable public format. Which one is easier to exploit? The same people preaching about being the” Grey man” get all wound up about being a legit license holder. I see both sides of the argument, but there are some with panties so tight they do not understand your point. They are just using the logical fallacy of whataboutism while failing to realize one list is private and the other is public. They are very different lists and a person can be okay being on one and not want to be on the other. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:34:03 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fruinmyweek.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2Foof-size-large-23-memes-85.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 If that's even close to accurate I'm out. https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet It reads like a dystopian faq. Sad. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:34:04 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't see that you are using logical fallacies as arguments. You're assuming there are lists to begin with. You're assuming I'm on said lists. All the while, you fail to recognize that a person can be okay with being on list A while not wanting to be on list B (because list A is private and list B is public for instance). They are two different things. You can't see past the fact that you are in far left field. If you are that paranoid you should drop off of electronic communications completely, yet here you are. And for the record, I've never seen whataboutism used to do anything other than deflect a point that the receiver didn't want to hear. It hasn't changed today. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:35:11 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I count 16 repeaters (privately owned) within 20 miles of my current location. If the government comes to shut down 16 repeaters, there a good chance they’ve already gotten the guns. When Katrina hit years ago the only communication coming out of New Orleans was ham radio. Ham was used to coordinate logistic until normal communications could be restored. Ham radio does have its place and limitations. I enjoy the hobby and have met many like minded people I otherwise wouldn’t have meet without the connection to ham. Are you a licensee? What if they simply issue a letter that says you can't transmit for a period of time like they did during the world wars? Will you comply? Will your club? It has happened. They don't have to go disconnect your backup power to make this happen. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:35:39 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My local Ham shop requires a valid call sign to buy equipment from them. Well, that's not the law, so why is your shop doing that? I would buy from someone else. One needs a license "to operate" it. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:36:32 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fruinmyweek.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F01%2Foof-size-large-23-memes-85.jpg&f=1&nofb=1 If that's even close to accurate I'm out. https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet Yet everyone that is paranoid about this rule still probably has a wifi router at home. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:37:18 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: For a receive only antenna, there are a lot of simple element designs that work quite well. BUT, when you start transmitting, VSWR becomes very important. And no, not all antennas are anywhere near "simple" ! You'd be amazed at the amount of computer modeling required to optimize a "simple" looking design I won't be transmitting. |
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:38:51 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are worried about edge cases of the ham community being targeted, but then don't care about the fact that your activation email from here was sent in clear text through ISPs and email servers. There's a good chance you used the same email address at a dozen other sites that know who you really are. I'm pretty good with my online security. Half the people here are calling me paranoid and the other half assume I haven't thought of using a throw away email address.
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Posted: 1/18/2021 4:38:58 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, that's what I figured. To my knowledge no civi radio communications can LEGALLY be encrypted. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There are two different things. MURS to the best of my understanding can't use encryption. Businesses using licensed frequencies may use encryption. Thanks, that's what I figured. To my knowledge no civi radio communications can LEGALLY be encrypted. Wow. You read me saying "Businesses using licensed frequencies may use encryption" and still to your knowledge believe that no civilian radio communications can be legally encrypted? At this point all of the issues seem to be on your end. |
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