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Link Posted: 11/24/2020 2:35:55 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/26/2020 6:08:37 PM EDT
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Mister GRRM said he was going to finish the GoT series much like Tolkien ended the LoR Trilogy: The Scouring of the Shire.

OK, but who is doing the Scouring and whom is getting cleaned off

It would be interesting to find that The Children of the Forest are not only the ones behind The Others; AKA: The White Walkers, but have never lost control of them.  They were just bidding their time and gathering their strengths.
Link Posted: 11/26/2020 11:22:45 PM EDT
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It’s hard to think of a direct parallel since I can’t think of anywhere that’s untouched directly by the war. So I can’t think of a place where innocence is hit by an unleashed evil.

I think it will be a more broad sense what we see in the show. While the heroes are fighting the others, Cersei or some other person down south will take advantage of the larger fight to seize power.
Link Posted: 11/26/2020 11:46:41 PM EDT
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GRRM said that Bran is going to the King at the end.
If you try to think about possible heirs, just remember that In The Books Rickon Stark is alive and well.

The youngest male Stark child is alive and well and living with Osha.

Consider:
Sansa Start doing something in courts of the land, pretending to be queen.  Maybe learning HOW to be a queen.
Aria Stark is a notch or two short of being a homicidal maniac.  How does she return?  Does she return?  Is she sane by the ending?
Bran is King.  But he's a cripple.
Rickon returns.  Brandon abdicates in favor of his little brother and does the Scouring.

Link Posted: 11/27/2020 2:45:48 AM EDT
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It’s hard to think of a direct parallel since I can’t think of anywhere that’s untouched directly by the war. So I can’t think of a place where innocence is hit by an unleashed evil.

I think it will be a more broad sense what we see in the show. While the heroes are fighting the others, Cersei or some other person down south will take advantage of the larger fight to seize power.
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I think it will be Euron who will end up being the one to cause the "scouring of the shire" bit.

Daenerys is going to go north with Jon to fight the Others, and Euron, who will be quite powerful, moves in behind and ends up being the final villain.

I don't think Daenerys is going to "go mad" at all. I think at best she'll have a bad reputation from taking on fAegon and the fallout therefrom, but she won't "go mad."


(It's either this, or Euron is going to have something to do with the Others getting past the wall... he supposedly has some ties to Bloodraven/the Three Eyed Crow, and may have some sort of inherent power like Bran does... but he uses it for evil or self empowerment.)
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 2:44:08 PM EDT
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I think you might have it backwards: Euron & Company are the ones that get scoured.

By whom I do not know
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 2:50:26 PM EDT
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I think you should just go ahead and imagine whatever ending you want, because you're never getting one from Fatty McCantfinishbooks.
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 9:29:50 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/27/2020 9:56:41 PM EDT
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There's a lot of truth in this... I DO think we'll get TWoW, and that will move the ball forward quite a bit... but I don't think it will provide enough to reasonably predict the ending.

Fucksake, George, WRITE LIKE THE WIND.
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 10:36:05 PM EDT
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There's a lot of truth in this... I DO think we'll get TWoW, and that will move the ball forward quite a bit... but I don't think it will provide enough to reasonably predict the ending.

Fucksake, George, WRITE LIKE THE WIND.
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There's a lot of truth in this... I DO think we'll get TWoW, and that will move the ball forward quite a bit... but I don't think it will provide enough to reasonably predict the ending.

Fucksake, George, WRITE LIKE THE WIND.
The wind outside is rather calm right this minute.......
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 10:39:33 PM EDT
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There's a lot of truth in this... I DO think we'll get TWoW, and that will move the ball forward quite a bit... but I don't think it will provide enough to reasonably predict the ending.

Fucksake, George, WRITE LIKE THE WIND.
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There's a lot of truth in this... I DO think we'll get TWoW, and that will move the ball forward quite a bit... but I don't think it will provide enough to reasonably predict the ending.

Fucksake, George, WRITE LIKE THE WIND.

At his current pace GRRM finishing the series himself would require a man that has been morbidly obese his whole life live into his mid 80's.  Then if you take into account the last book will be the hardest because he has to wrap everything up it might even require him survive until he is 90.

I don't like his chances.
Link Posted: 11/27/2020 10:40:31 PM EDT
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I still remember some of the more optimistic fans doing mental gymnastics to explain how GRRM would finish the series before the show ended.   Book 6 was going to come out around S3 because reasons and then book 7 was going to come out around S6 because reasons.  Some of them even became enraged and accused others of not being "real fans" when people pointed out how unlikely that was.

Here we are over a year after the show ended and the fat fuck still hasn't finished book 6.  
Link Posted: 11/29/2020 4:34:31 PM EDT
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At his current pace GRRM finishing the series himself would require a man that has been morbidly obese his whole life live into his mid 80's.  Then if you take into account the last book will be the hardest because he has to wrap everything up it might even require him survive until he is 90.

I don't like his chances.
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I'm slowly reading the books.
You made me realize just how much work he puts into people just plain EATING!!!
We can't eat those apples; too wormy and brown....
Link Posted: 11/30/2020 3:55:29 AM EDT
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I'm pretty much convinced at this point that GRRM realized his ending sucks and doesn't know how to end it.
Link Posted: 11/30/2020 4:23:04 AM EDT
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I think he knows how he wants to end it.  He just has no idea how to wrap up his 87 different storylines and 8,787 characters to get to that end.

I’ve been saying for years that he reminds me of a grade school kid that’s totally unprepared to give his oral book report so he’s doing everything he can to try and stall until the bell rings.
Link Posted: 12/2/2020 2:13:48 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/2/2020 2:19:12 AM EDT
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I think he knows how he wants to end it.  He just has no idea how to wrap up his 87 different storylines and 8,787 characters to get to that end.

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I think he's got a direction and knows how he wants it to end, but that's too much of the "planner" approach, and he's done too much as the "gardener"... now he has to get those 8787 plot lines to convincingly converge to achieve his end.

Thus I hope he's untangling most of that shit with TWoW, and ADoS will be more straightforward (and take much less time to write!)
Link Posted: 12/2/2020 2:30:01 AM EDT
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I still remember some of the more optimistic fans doing mental gymnastics to explain how GRRM would finish the series before the show ended.   Book 6 was going to come out around S3 because reasons and then book 7 was going to come out around S6 because reasons.  Some of them even became enraged and accused others of not being "real fans" when people pointed out how unlikely that was.

Here we are over a year after the show ended and the fat fuck still hasn't finished book 6.  
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Link Posted: 12/2/2020 8:02:43 AM EDT
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About that meme saying the last seasons had Porn Levels of dialogue....

If GRRM was the writer of a silent Stag Films (Early porn) it would take him a week to get the part where the two (or more) stars take off their clothing.
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 6:08:31 PM EDT
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Has this been brought up yet?

Link Posted: 12/3/2020 6:26:48 PM EDT
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As long as Dumb and Dumber are not in any way, shape, or form associated with it I'm willing to give it a "wait and see" approach. Still, it's hard to get excited for a prequel about the Targs after the laughably ridiculous way their House was killed off in S8.  Even IF it's good the whole time I'm watching it I'm going to be thinking "this is the House that goes extinct because a woman got triggered by a bell."

At least they had the commonsense to cancel the NK prequel.  After he gets killed by a 90 pound girl jumping out of some bushes and one shotting him with a knife who gives a fuck what lead to him reaching that pathetic end?
Link Posted: 12/3/2020 6:28:33 PM EDT
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And speaking of the NK:

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Link Posted: 12/4/2020 7:10:58 AM EDT
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It's interesting that people who never watched the show noticed how it just vanished after it ended. Spectacular, that.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 9:13:43 AM EDT
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As long as Dumb and Dumber are not in any way, shape, or form associated with it I'm willing to give it a "wait and see" approach. Still, it's hard to get excited for a prequel about the Targs after the laughably ridiculous way their House was killed off in S8.  Even IF it's good the whole time I'm watching it I'm going to be thinking "this is the House that goes extinct because a woman got triggered by a bell."

At least they had the commonsense to cancel the NK prequel.  After he gets killed by a 90 pound girl jumping out of some bushes and one shotting him with a knife who gives a fuck what lead to him reaching that pathetic end?
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Every time I read about a poster gripping griping about Arya being a 90 pound weakling, they show how much they forgot abut how much training she went through.  Water Dancing from season 1 through 4.  Season 5 and 6 she gets Faceless Men training.  Try to remember just how well she defeated Brienne.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:09:12 PM EDT
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Every time I read about a poster gripping griping about Arya being a 90 pound weakling, they show how much they forgot abut how much training she went through.  Water Dancing from season 1 through 4.  Season 5 and 6 she gets Faceless Men training.  Try to remember just how well she defeated Brienne.
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As long as Dumb and Dumber are not in any way, shape, or form associated with it I'm willing to give it a "wait and see" approach. Still, it's hard to get excited for a prequel about the Targs after the laughably ridiculous way their House was killed off in S8.  Even IF it's good the whole time I'm watching it I'm going to be thinking "this is the House that goes extinct because a woman got triggered by a bell."

At least they had the commonsense to cancel the NK prequel.  After he gets killed by a 90 pound girl jumping out of some bushes and one shotting him with a knife who gives a fuck what lead to him reaching that pathetic end?
Every time I read about a poster gripping griping about Arya being a 90 pound weakling, they show how much they forgot abut how much training she went through.  Water Dancing from season 1 through 4.  Season 5 and 6 she gets Faceless Men training.  Try to remember just how well she defeated Brienne.

It's almost impressive how you could get so much wrong in such a short post.

1. I never said Arya was a "weakling."

2. Criticizing Arya killing the NK isn't a shot at Arya.  It's a shot at Dumb and Dumber for their decision to have Arya kill the NK (and the manner in which it happened) while Jon yelled at a dragon for some reason.  Hell, even Maisie Williams acknowledged it probably should have been Jon to do the deed.

3. It's ironic you talking about people forgetting things that happened on the show and that others should "try to remember just how well she defeated Brienne."  Arya never defeated Brienne, much less defeated her "well."  You are lecturing people to remember something that literally never happened.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:11:48 PM EDT
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Whatever.

Winter is Coming.

Der & Derer ain't involved in it, either.

So far.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:20:09 PM EDT
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EXACTLY. I would bring that up when the kneelers use to come in here with their "REEEE, STOP TRASHING SOMETHING I LIKE, REEE!!!"

And they would tell us "yeah, sure, like GoT is the only show to have an ending some people didn't like" thus completely missing the point your post made.  There has literally never been a show like GoT and I doubt very much there will EVER be one like it again.  Much like how classes about how good The Wire is are taught at major colleges I think there will be classes about the historic way Dumb and Dumber ruined one of the most popular shows in TV history.
Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:23:36 PM EDT
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Every time I read about a poster gripping griping about Arya being a 90 pound weakling, they show how much they forgot abut how much training she went through.  Water Dancing from season 1 through 4.  Season 5 and 6 she gets Faceless Men training.  Try to remember just how well she defeated Brienne.
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Point of order.  You cannot justify your argument by pointing to one of the dumbest scenes in the show.  Arya was supposed to be an assassin.  Brienne would have carved her up in a straight up duel.  Arya is a badass assassin, and the Trant and Frey scenes were great.  The Brienne sparring was cringe.  

The Hound - "Armor and a big fucking sword"

Link Posted: 12/4/2020 2:28:12 PM EDT
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Come on, regale us with the time Arya not only defeated Brienne, but defeated her well.
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 1:50:52 AM EDT
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The problem with Arya killing the Night King to me is it just doesn’t make any sense to the story. You spend hours and hours showing how all of these events are tied to the birth of one character. EVERY single thing that happens in the show is caused by a single decision.

That decision being Rhaegar’s choice to leave his wife for Lyanna Stark. Everything is the telling of the consequences of that choice. The Night King and the others are the reason Rhaegar made that choice. To bring about the hero to stop that evil.

To have it not be Jon that ends it, makes all that pointless. That in itself could have been something fun. To show that chasing prophecy is dangerous. Or that Jon somehow caused it to be fulfilled but not in a predictable way. Or if they had even taken the time to show that yeah someone other than Jon did it and Jon wasn’t necessary, and all this evil and these terrible events in chasing the throne happened because of Rhaegar’s attempt to fulfill prophecy.  

BUT they didn’t do any of that. They didn’t take the time to make any type of payoff to being invested in Jon’s story. The payoff didn’t have to be Jon killing the Night King. The pointless destruction caused and the viewer twisting themselves up seeing how it all happened but was pointless with some simple dialogue between Jon and Tyrion, or Sam or Bran about how all this happened to create Jon and he wasn’t even needed would have been interesting as hell.

Could have made us feel like there was a point to be made. Some thought put into who did it. Some greater story. Instead it was just used as a cheap trick and to say gurl powa
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 1:54:06 AM EDT
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The problem with Arya killing the Night King to me is it just doesn’t make any sense to the story. You spend hours and hours showing how all of these events are tied to the birth of one character. EVERY single thing that happens in the show is caused by a single decision.

That decision being Rhaegar’s choice to leave his wife for Lyanna Stark. Everything is the telling of the consequences of that choice. The Night King and the others are the reason Rhaegar made that choice. To bring about the hero to stop that evil.

To have it not be Jon that ends it, makes all that pointless. That in itself could have been something fun. To show that chasing prophecy is dangerous. Or that Jon somehow caused it to be fulfilled but not in a predictable way. Or if they had even taken the time to show that yeah someone other than Jon did it and Jon wasn’t necessary, and all this evil and these terrible events in chasing the throne happened because of Rhaegar’s attempt to fulfill prophecy.  

BUT they didn’t do any of that. They didn’t take the time to make any type of payoff to being invested in Jon’s story. The payoff didn’t have to be Jon killing the Night King. The pointless destruction caused and the viewer twisting themselves up seeing how it all happened but was pointless with some simple dialogue between Jon and Tyrion, or Sam or Bran about how all this happened to create Jon and he wasn’t even needed would have been interesting as hell.

Could have made us feel like there was a point to be made. Some thought put into who did it. Some greater story. Instead it was just used as a cheap trick and to say gurl powa
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You nailed it, but of course that cross has about 22580236 nails in it by now. They definitely set things up, but failed miserably to pay them off (Jon, Cersei blowing up the Sept...), and then they paid off things that were just not set up (Arya "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" retcon bullshit).  UGH.

Link Posted: 12/5/2020 1:55:41 AM EDT
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The problem with Arya killing the Night King to me is it just doesn't make any sense to the story. You spend hours and hours showing how all of these events are tied to the birth of one character. EVERY single thing that happens in the show is caused by a single decision.

That decision being Rhaegar's choice to leave his wife for Lyanna Stark. Everything is the telling of the consequences of that choice. The Night King and the others are the reason Rhaegar made that choice. To bring about the hero to stop that evil.

To have it not be Jon that ends it, makes all that pointless. That in itself could have been something fun. To show that chasing prophecy is dangerous. Or that Jon somehow caused it to be fulfilled but not in a predictable way. Or if they had even taken the time to show that yeah someone other than Jon did it and Jon wasn't necessary, and all this evil and these terrible events in chasing the throne happened because of Rhaegar's attempt to fulfill prophecy.  

BUT they didn't do any of that. They didn't take the time to make any type of payoff to being invested in Jon's story. The payoff didn't have to be Jon killing the Night King. The pointless destruction caused and the viewer twisting themselves up seeing how it all happened but was pointless with some simple dialogue between Jon and Tyrion, or Sam or Bran about how all this happened to create Jon and he wasn't even needed would have been interesting as hell.

Could have made us feel like there was a point to be made. Some thought put into who did it. Some greater story. Instead it was just used as a cheap trick and to say gurl powa
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And it was such an easy fix.  Have Arya stab NK but not kill him, just give Jon the opening he needs to finish NK.  Then Arya looks at him and says "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives."  I mean, Jebus even the 1982 Conan movie got this part right.

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Link Posted: 12/5/2020 3:57:18 AM EDT
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The problem with Arya killing the Night King to me is it just doesn’t make any sense to the story. You spend hours and hours showing how all of these events are tied to the birth of one character. EVERY single thing that happens in the show is caused by a single decision.

That decision being Rhaegar’s choice to leave his wife for Lyanna Stark. Everything is the telling of the consequences of that choice. The Night King and the others are the reason Rhaegar made that choice. To bring about the hero to stop that evil.

To have it not be Jon that ends it, makes all that pointless. That in itself could have been something fun. To show that chasing prophecy is dangerous. Or that Jon somehow caused it to be fulfilled but not in a predictable way. Or if they had even taken the time to show that yeah someone other than Jon did it and Jon wasn’t necessary, and all this evil and these terrible events in chasing the throne happened because of Rhaegar’s attempt to fulfill prophecy.  

BUT they didn’t do any of that. They didn’t take the time to make any type of payoff to being invested in Jon’s story. The payoff didn’t have to be Jon killing the Night King. The pointless destruction caused and the viewer twisting themselves up seeing how it all happened but was pointless with some simple dialogue between Jon and Tyrion, or Sam or Bran about how all this happened to create Jon and he wasn’t even needed would have been interesting as hell.

Could have made us feel like there was a point to be made. Some thought put into who did it. Some greater story. Instead it was just used as a cheap trick and to say gurl powa
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I agree with most that.

Not THAT though.
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 4:01:07 AM EDT
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Peter Jackson originally had planned for a final fight between Aragorn and Sauron, but decided against it because it did NOT make sense.

Dumb and Dumber didn't have a final fight between Jon and the NK because it made TOO MUCH sense.
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You nailed it, but of course that cross has about 22580236 nails in it by now. They definitely set things up, but failed miserably to pay them off (Jon, Cersei blowing up the Sept...), and then they paid off things that were just not set up (Arya "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" retcon bullshit).  UGH.

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The problem with Arya killing the Night King to me is it just doesn’t make any sense to the story. You spend hours and hours showing how all of these events are tied to the birth of one character. EVERY single thing that happens in the show is caused by a single decision.

That decision being Rhaegar’s choice to leave his wife for Lyanna Stark. Everything is the telling of the consequences of that choice. The Night King and the others are the reason Rhaegar made that choice. To bring about the hero to stop that evil.

To have it not be Jon that ends it, makes all that pointless. That in itself could have been something fun. To show that chasing prophecy is dangerous. Or that Jon somehow caused it to be fulfilled but not in a predictable way. Or if they had even taken the time to show that yeah someone other than Jon did it and Jon wasn’t necessary, and all this evil and these terrible events in chasing the throne happened because of Rhaegar’s attempt to fulfill prophecy.  

BUT they didn’t do any of that. They didn’t take the time to make any type of payoff to being invested in Jon’s story. The payoff didn’t have to be Jon killing the Night King. The pointless destruction caused and the viewer twisting themselves up seeing how it all happened but was pointless with some simple dialogue between Jon and Tyrion, or Sam or Bran about how all this happened to create Jon and he wasn’t even needed would have been interesting as hell.

Could have made us feel like there was a point to be made. Some thought put into who did it. Some greater story. Instead it was just used as a cheap trick and to say gurl powa



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You nailed it, but of course that cross has about 22580236 nails in it by now. They definitely set things up, but failed miserably to pay them off (Jon, Cersei blowing up the Sept...), and then they paid off things that were just not set up (Arya "green eyes, brown eyes, blue eyes" retcon bullshit).  UGH.


Jon gets all the attention, but for me the worst in all of this is what they did to Jaime.

GRRM handed them on a silver platter one of the greatest character arcs in TV history and Dumb and Dumber still somehow manged to fuck it up.  "I've never cared about innocent people."  Seriously? The guy who sacrificed his honor to save innocent people doesn't care about innocent people?  

It'd be like a football team being up 40-0 in the final 5 minutes of the game, the head coach has to leave so he tells his assistant to take over, and the team someone manages to lose.  You have to basically be trying to lose to fuck up THAT bad.
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So you’re saying Sumlin at UCLA bad?
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 11:04:08 AM EDT
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Also, I wasn’t saying Jon shouldn’t have been the one to kill the Night King. I think giving the entire prophecy stuff some payoff would have been nice.

I was just saying if you are going to make the prophecy be meaningless, you have to give fans who have paid attention to it some payoff on it by acknowledging it cause all of this and it was ultimately pointless. Not just ignore it.  Not a single scene of anyone being like “prophecy caused this - but why?”
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Also, I wasn’t saying Jon shouldn’t have been the one to kill the Night King. I think giving the entire prophecy stuff some payoff would have been nice.

I was just saying if you are going to make the prophecy be meaningless, you have to give fans who have paid attention to it some payoff on it by acknowledging it cause all of this and it was ultimately pointless. Not just ignore it.  Not a single scene of anyone being like “prophecy caused this - but why?”
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That was just a reference to the "would have been interesting as hell" line.  Don't get me wrong.  It certainly would have been better than what we got (pretty much anything would have been), but "interesting as hell" was a bit of a stretch, IMO.
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And it was such an easy fix.  Have Arya stab NK but not kill him, just give Jon the opening he needs to finish NK.  Then Arya looks at him and says "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives."  I mean, Jebus even the 1982 Conan movie got this part right.

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Good point.

As it has been mentioned nearly as many times already, Mr. Knows Nothing could have fought NK.
While they fought Arya could have showed up and distracted NK or saved Jon from a killing blow.
Or Arya from a killing blow.
Or both.

D&D making Jon pause for those few seconds before he was able to reach NK makes so little sense.  Jon was a better fighter than that; he would have and SHOULD have kept charging at Blue Eyes.

And I still think Arya could have have gotten close to NK:


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Link Posted: 12/5/2020 8:13:17 PM EDT
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Ok, interesting as hell might be a bit of a stretch, but it would have been interesting angle to look at it if Jon wasn’t the guy but we acknowledged that all the events involving the Game of Thrones were out in motion by trying to fulfill a prophecy.

Lots of discussion could be had about how much the attempt to fulfill the prophecy contributed to a victory over the Night King vs a would have happened another way scenario.
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And it was such an easy fix.  Have Arya stab NK but not kill him, just give Jon the opening he needs to finish NK.  Then Arya looks at him and says "The lone wolf dies, but the pack survives."  I mean, Jebus even the 1982 Conan movie got this part right.

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I would reverse it.  Have Jon fight the NK in an epic battle and lose.  Then right before the NK finishes him, an undead stabs the NK in the back and then rips off it's face to reveal Arya who says the wolf line.
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 8:27:36 PM EDT
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I just got my 4K Steelbook series set




Now to see if I can actually fucking see anything at The Battle of Winterfell
Link Posted: 12/5/2020 8:30:14 PM EDT
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This would have fixed (or at least made significantly less sucky) four things all at once:


Link Posted: 12/5/2020 8:32:28 PM EDT
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As long as Dumb and Dumber are not in any way, shape, or form associated with it I'm willing to give it a "wait and see" approach. Still, it's hard to get excited for a prequel about the Targs after the laughably ridiculous way their House was killed off in S8.  Even IF it's good the whole time I'm watching it I'm going to be thinking "this is the House that goes extinct because a woman got triggered by a bell."

At least they had the commonsense to cancel the NK prequel.  After he gets killed by a 90 pound girl jumping out of some bushes and one shotting him with a knife who gives a fuck what lead to him reaching that pathetic end?
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As long as Dumb and Dumber are not in any way, shape, or form associated with it I'm willing to give it a "wait and see" approach. Still, it's hard to get excited for a prequel about the Targs after the laughably ridiculous way their House was killed off in S8.  Even IF it's good the whole time I'm watching it I'm going to be thinking "this is the House that goes extinct because a woman got triggered by a bell."

At least they had the commonsense to cancel the NK prequel.  After he gets killed by a 90 pound girl jumping out of some bushes and one shotting him with a knife who gives a fuck what lead to him reaching that pathetic end?

It's stupid as fuck that HBO ditched a series set during Age of Heros for this one. iirc, it was already in preproduction when it got sidelined
Link Posted: 12/8/2020 4:25:36 AM EDT
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It's stupid as fuck that HBO ditched a series set during Age of Heros for this one. iirc, it was already in preproduction when it got sidelined
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The series about the first Long Night? From what I have heard, it likely would have sucked. There was practically NO material from GRRM about that period. The production was also using black actors as the Children of the Forest... but not with any makeup or prosthetics... they were just black people. Apparently, they were going to have the Children 'cursed' so they end up looking like what we saw in GoT.

I think HoTD will have much better support, story-wise. It's already got (or will have) framework set up by GRRM. While it doesn't have source material as in novels with full dialog and such, the major happenings are going to be based on shit that's actually, you know, written down.

There's still a chance it might suck... but it might be great. I'll give it a chance...but it will suck knowing how House Targaryen ends up.
Link Posted: 12/9/2020 9:33:02 AM EDT
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Lol.  That's cheesy as hell compared to the way it should have gone down, but still have me goosebumps.

I can't believe you guys are still at this.  I was the biggest fan, had read everything asofai related I could get my hands on.  The series and that fat bastard have been dead to me for the last year.
Link Posted: 12/9/2020 1:53:53 PM EDT
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Lol.  That's cheesy as hell compared to the way it should have gone down, but still have me goosebumps.

I can't believe you guys are still at this.  I was the biggest fan, had read everything asofai related I could get my hands on.  The series and that fat bastard have been dead to me for the last year.
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Lol.  That's cheesy as hell compared to the way it should have gone down, but still have me goosebumps.

I can't believe you guys are still at this.  I was the biggest fan, had read everything asofai related I could get my hands on.  The series and that fat bastard have been dead to me for the last year.

You can't believe people are still talking about something so significant it will have college classes about it, on ongoing book series, and an upcoming prequel?
Link Posted: 12/10/2020 3:47:14 PM EDT
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It's a lot of fun re-reading pages near the start......
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