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Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:08:22 PM EDT
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This after Vietnam the media saw calling them baby killers to further their cause.

the Gulf they just plain ignoring them.

now they are heroic victims in this terrible war on brown people.
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Local media is giving away free signs for all combat veterans to warn of the use of fireworks...

If I had a neighbor that was like this, I would take them shooting and try and work the PTSD out of them, since apparently they aren't getting the help they want or need already.

What's arfcoms opinion on this?



Gimme attention


This after Vietnam the media saw calling them baby killers to further their cause.

the Gulf they just plain ignoring them.

now they are heroic victims in this terrible war on brown people.


They're only heroic if they are female, a soldier/marine with a MOH, in the airforce, or a navy seal who gets other people killed.

Everyone else is a dirty rapey haliburton blood oil robot.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:08:43 PM EDT
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I think it's attention whoring. I spent 9yrs deployed in the GWOT between the Corps and contracting and I think it's absolute bullshit.  

You know how you confront PTSD issues with fireworks? you got outside and watch them. Don't sit in your house trying to watch TV. If you think "It's fireworks" then look at the sky and see them.... you're fine.
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Thank you for your service and common sense.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:10:29 PM EDT
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Special snowflake syndrome combined with veterans as victims narrative.


I didn't go to war to ensure people had to ask permission to celebrate independence day.

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this right here
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:11:48 PM EDT
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Yeah,  attention seekers.  I want nothing to do with those signs.  
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:13:03 PM EDT
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We did this thread a week or so back.



Meh, fuck em.  I love to let off a metric shit ton of fireworks.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:17:26 PM EDT
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There is too much, "Boo fucking hoo, poor me!" going on in our Country.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:30:32 PM EDT
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Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11
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US Veterans are the next up and coming "Everything effects and offends me" group.



Must be generational.



Yep. The new victim class.


Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11


Not doubting your numbers in any shape, form, or fashion. What's the source?
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:35:44 PM EDT
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Not doubting your numbers in any shape, form, or fashion. What's the source?
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US Veterans are the next up and coming "Everything effects and offends me" group.



Must be generational.



Yep. The new victim class.


Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11


Not doubting your numbers in any shape, form, or fashion. What's the source?


source
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:37:44 PM EDT
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Special snowflake syndrome combined with veterans as victims narrative.


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And we are finished.
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My oldest daughter is an Iraq War vet, and she gets a little wigged-out by fireworks. It's not the big commercial-grade ones that bother her, it's the small ones up close, usually accompanied by little brown people running around(there are a lot of Hispanic children in her neighborhood), that do it. She's slowly getting better about it, but not long after she got back, I got a phone call from her... Calling from her bedroom closet. All she needed was Papa's voice telling her that everything was going to be alright.






I always feel calmer when I see small brown people running around.
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Thanks.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:42:57 PM EDT
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This will be an unpopular thought but a lot of my fellow veterans are being just as whiny as the liberals we all make fun of.
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This will be an unpopular thought but a lot of my fellow veterans are being just as whiny as the liberals we all make fun of.
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As a veteran, I take great offense to that remark. How dare you call me out! I fought for my country!
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:45:38 PM EDT
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in my experience a projectile traveling over your head does not sound like a fire cracker (not combat experience, someone shot several rounds at me while hunting) It was a whistling sound
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Never been in the military or combat, and am very appreciative of those that have served.  I have been working the pits at a number of rifle matches and can see how firecrackers could sound like incoming fire.

The snap of a .223 round coming over head does sound a lot like a small fire cracker going off.   I guess that could trigger some involuntary responses, especially if someone wasn't expecting it or had a particularly traumatic experience.

IMHO, shooting off fireworks is a deep rooted tradition in this country, and is part of what these brave men and women fought for.  I think if I was in their shoes I'd probably find something else to do around the 4th to try not to inconvenience the rest of the neighbors around me.


in my experience a projectile traveling over your head does not sound like a fire cracker (not combat experience, someone shot several rounds at me while hunting) It was a whistling sound


Unless they were shooting a rocket at you, No,  SNAP!
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:45:54 PM EDT
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I agree most are just seeking attention. I've seen my fair share of combat during OIF but I don't have PTSD. When I hear fireworks or helicopters flying, it makes me think "Hm, almost sounds like Iraq."
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:45:57 PM EDT
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My girlfriend's husband fights for your freedom!
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Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11
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US Veterans are the next up and coming "Everything effects and offends me" group.



Must be generational.



Yep. The new victim class.


Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11


I bet Couch Commando wishes he could quote you on this.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:47:37 PM EDT
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If PTSD is so prevalent with current military guys, how did veterans of wars past ever survive?

How did someone ever dust themselves off the beach of Normandy and go on to live a normal, productive civilian life?
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:47:52 PM EDT
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You only got snakes and sparklers??!!
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I'll post a video from the pit if i can find it.   Never once have I heard a whistle,  just the snap.  Hundreds of rounds over my head, if not thousands in a match environment.





This was a video from my first match in the pits at Camp Perry.   This was I think the M16 EIC match, so these are 5.56 bullets coming in overhead.   The snaps are the bullets and sounded like someone lit off one of those 1000rd firecracker chains in the pits right next to us.



http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/th_VIDEO0023.mp4



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Never been in the military or combat, and am very appreciative of those that have served.  I have been working the pits at a number of rifle matches and can see how firecrackers could sound like incoming fire.



The snap of a .223 round coming over head does sound a lot like a small fire cracker going off.   I guess that could trigger some involuntary responses, especially if someone wasn't expecting it or had a particularly traumatic experience.



IMHO, shooting off fireworks is a deep rooted tradition in this country, and is part of what these brave men and women fought for.  I think if I was in their shoes I'd probably find something else to do around the 4th to try not to inconvenience the rest of the neighbors around me.




in my experience a projectile traveling over your head does not sound like a fire cracker (not combat experience, someone shot several rounds at me while hunting) It was a whistling sound






I'll post a video from the pit if i can find it.   Never once have I heard a whistle,  just the snap.  Hundreds of rounds over my head, if not thousands in a match environment.





This was a video from my first match in the pits at Camp Perry.   This was I think the M16 EIC match, so these are 5.56 bullets coming in overhead.   The snaps are the bullets and sounded like someone lit off one of those 1000rd firecracker chains in the pits right next to us.



http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/th_VIDEO0023.mp4



http://vid221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/VIDEO0023.mp4




 
That loud pop that sounds like a blackcat is the rounds impacting.






Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:51:02 PM EDT
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I'm certainly no attention whoring snowflake and enjoy fireworks. But if something unexpectedly goes boom, then yeah I freak. Mortar barrages and rocket attacks affect everyone differently.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:51:52 PM EDT
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I grew up around WWII, Korean War and Vietnam Vets

Not once ever did I hear any vet say they didn't like fireworks or gunshots.

More like the exact opposite.

These threads here on arfcom are the very first I've ever heard of it.



Also, FYI, the WWII guys called a magazine a "clip".

I grew up calling my 22 mag a clip.





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Get that 100%.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:54:49 PM EDT
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I always feel calmer when I see small brown people running around.
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My oldest daughter is an Iraq War vet, and she gets a little wigged-out by fireworks. It's not the big commercial-grade ones that bother her, it's the small ones up close, usually accompanied by little brown people running around(there are a lot of Hispanic children in her neighborhood), that do it. She's slowly getting better about it, but not long after she got back, I got a phone call from her... Calling from her bedroom closet. All she needed was Papa's voice telling her that everything was going to be alright.






I always feel calmer when I see small brown people running around.


I've seen things man......once, on the FOB the DFAC ran out of chocolate ice cream....only had vanilla.

Yeah,
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:56:00 PM EDT
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Like I said....the good stuff
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:56:06 PM EDT
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It's a brilliant plan to further degrade the holiday.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 1:58:27 PM EDT
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If you really want PTSD, let a Gunnery Sgt catch you washing your flight suit or FROG suit in the showers while taking yma shower, while on limited non-potable water supply.





Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:00:01 PM EDT
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Iraq war veteran.



I don't like the signs, I agree with it being part of the Victim card with a special blend of I'm a special snowflake.




I also thinks it helps perpetuate the "Vets are psychos that become unhinged from loud noises or some other type of trigger" mythos that we see in society today.  
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:00:47 PM EDT
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If a GWOT veteran with PTSD had a fireworks stand:



 
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I've seen things man......once, on the FOB the DFAC ran out of chocolate ice cream....only had vanilla.

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That's rough, brother.

One time, we had a dust storm last for almost three days. There were no AAFES convoys running, so the only vegetables Subway had by the second day were tomatoes. It was terrible.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:02:54 PM EDT
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Dude the shit blowing up is about as a comforting sound as it gets. because if  you can hear it it means it missed your ass.
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Whiskey

Veterans have always been negatively affected by the psychological trauma of war. Back in the day they were more stoic about it, bottled that shit up, self medicated, and tried to act like men. Nowadays, veterans are told at the eleventy billion PTSD briefs we attend before and after deployment that we have to talk about our feelings and not bottle it up, to seek help, etc. Which means anyone with any issues has to let everyone around them know they have triggers. Instead of booze, its Zoloft and Prozac and Xanax.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:08:19 PM EDT
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I am an Iraq war vet, and I do not do fireworks.  But no sign for me.  I just stay at home, and listen to my music with headphones or the night.  But I do not begrudge others their fun.

I do not "snap."  I do get more anxious, shorter temper, and more "jumpy." I prefer not to make my wife and daughter have to deal with me like that.

I do start out a bit more jumpy at a shooting range, but quickly settle out of it.  I guess it is just the environment; at a shooting range, the gunshots are expected.  in the neighborhood, they are not- July 4th, or not.  My Lizard brain does not do holidays.  It sees what environment I am in: neighborhood, no explosions expected.  range, gunshots expected.
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Whiskey

Veterans have always been negatively affected by the psychological trauma of war. Back in the day they were more stoic about it, bottled that shit up, self medicated, and tried to act like men. Nowadays, veterans are told at the eleventy billion PTSD briefs we attend before and after deployment that we have to talk about our feelings and not bottle it up, to seek help, etc. Which means anyone with any issues has to let everyone around them know they have triggers. Instead of booze, its Zoloft and Prozac and Xanax.
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Whiskey

Veterans have always been negatively affected by the psychological trauma of war. Back in the day they were more stoic about it, bottled that shit up, self medicated, and tried to act like men. Nowadays, veterans are told at the eleventy billion PTSD briefs we attend before and after deployment that we have to talk about our feelings and not bottle it up, to seek help, etc. Which means anyone with any issues has to let everyone around them know they have triggers. Instead of booze, its Zoloft and Prozac and Xanax.


also they got to beat their wives and kids, you go to jail now for that.
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I am an Iraq war vet, and I do not do fireworks.  But no sign for me.  I just stay at home, and listen to my music with headphones or the night.  But I do not begrudge others their fun.

I do not "snap."  I do get more anxious, shorter temper, and more "jumpy." I prefer not to make my wife and daughter have to deal with me like that.

I do start out a bit more jumpy at a shooting range, but quickly settle out of it.  I guess it is just the environment; at a shooting range, the gunshots are expected.  in the neighborhood, they are not- July 4th, or not.  My Lizard brain does not do holidays.  It sees what environment I am in: neighborhood, no explosions expected.  range, gunshots expected.
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From what I've heard, one of the better treatments of PTSD is to immerse yourself in the environment that triggers your anxiety but in a controlled way (not actually threatening) and to surround yourself with positive factors. Don't like crowds because of fear of suicide bombers? Go to a concert, have fun, and get a blowjob. Don't like explosions because of IEDs? Go to fireworks hammered on booze with friends, watch the pretty lights, and work through that shit. Gunfire fucks you up? Go to a gun range and just hang out all day doing normal shit, eat lunch, read a good book . Eventually your brain will stop associating those effects with negative thoughts.

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I'll post a video from the pit if i can find it.   Never once have I heard a whistle,  just the snap.  Hundreds of rounds over my head, if not thousands in a match environment.


This was a video from my first match in the pits at Camp Perry.   This was I think the M16 EIC match, so these are 5.56 bullets coming in overhead.   The snaps are the bullets and sounded like someone lit off one of those 1000rd firecracker chains in the pits right next to us.

<a href="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/VIDEO0023.mp4" target="_blank">http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/th_VIDEO0023.mp4</a>

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Never been in the military or combat, and am very appreciative of those that have served.  I have been working the pits at a number of rifle matches and can see how firecrackers could sound like incoming fire.

The snap of a .223 round coming over head does sound a lot like a small fire cracker going off.   I guess that could trigger some involuntary responses, especially if someone wasn't expecting it or had a particularly traumatic experience.

IMHO, shooting off fireworks is a deep rooted tradition in this country, and is part of what these brave men and women fought for.  I think if I was in their shoes I'd probably find something else to do around the 4th to try not to inconvenience the rest of the neighbors around me.


in my experience a projectile traveling over your head does not sound like a fire cracker (not combat experience, someone shot several rounds at me while hunting) It was a whistling sound



I'll post a video from the pit if i can find it.   Never once have I heard a whistle,  just the snap.  Hundreds of rounds over my head, if not thousands in a match environment.


This was a video from my first match in the pits at Camp Perry.   This was I think the M16 EIC match, so these are 5.56 bullets coming in overhead.   The snaps are the bullets and sounded like someone lit off one of those 1000rd firecracker chains in the pits right next to us.

<a href="http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/VIDEO0023.mp4" target="_blank">http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/th_VIDEO0023.mp4</a>

http://vid221.photobucket.com/albums/dd136/jblomenberg16/VIDEO0023.mp4


Sometimes a ricochet can sound like a high pitched whirring sound. Maybe that's what he heard.

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A loud bang scared me once after my first tour of duty in Afghan...I reached for a rifle that wasn't there....then I realized I was in America....at a McDonald's drive through....called myself an idiot and moved on. Haven't had issues since, even with three other deployments back to Afghan and Iraq.... Some people adjust easier than others. With that being said I wouldn't go out of my way to make sure every sweetheart in my neighborhood is okay with fireworks on the fourth of July.... Fuck em. They've had notice all year.

Controlled dets, 4 days.
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This is called prolonged exposure therapy, and it is one of the two evidence based practices the VA uses to treat PTSD (the other being cognitive behavioral therapy).
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Veterans have always been negatively affected by the psychological trauma of war. Back in the day they were more stoic about it, bottled that shit up, self medicated, and tried to act like men. Nowadays, veterans are told at the eleventy billion PTSD briefs we attend before and after deployment that we have to talk about our feelings and not bottle it up, to seek help, etc. Which means anyone with any issues has to let everyone around them know they have triggers. Instead of booze, its Zoloft and Prozac and Xanax.
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Whiskey

Veterans have always been negatively affected by the psychological trauma of war. Back in the day they were more stoic about it, bottled that shit up, self medicated, and tried to act like men. Nowadays, veterans are told at the eleventy billion PTSD briefs we attend before and after deployment that we have to talk about our feelings and not bottle it up, to seek help, etc. Which means anyone with any issues has to let everyone around them know they have triggers. Instead of booze, its Zoloft and Prozac and Xanax.


I could get free drugs for life, legally?

This just keeps getting better and better.

Good thing my wife is such an avid firearms collector.
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I would try to be considerate of their condition since I am not an asshole
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My grandad was at Normandy and ended up having a family and good, normal life.  His life was hard before he even went to war though. He was working in coal and zinc mines as a kid and saw some pretty rough times. I think that generation was just made out of tougher metal.
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My german shepherd has ptsd pretty bad on the fourth of july.  A good family friend who was an Arp in Vietnam, as well as a door-gunner at one point, always celebrated the 4th with us by mag dumping his Colt Commando on FA after dark.  Followed by devilish laughter.
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From what I've heard, one of the better treatments of PTSD is to immerse yourself in the environment that triggers your anxiety but in a controlled way (not actually threatening) and to surround yourself with positive factors. Don't like crowds because of fear of suicide bombers? Go to a concert, have fun, and get a blowjob. Don't like explosions because of IEDs? Go to fireworks hammered on booze with friends, watch the pretty lights, and work through that shit. Gunfire fucks you up? Go to a gun range and just hang out all day doing normal shit, eat lunch, read a good book . Eventually your brain will stop associating those effects with negative thoughts.





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I am an Iraq war vet, and I do not do fireworks.  But no sign for me.  I just stay at home, and listen to my music with headphones or the night.  But I do not begrudge others their fun.





I do not "snap."  I do get more anxious, shorter temper, and more "jumpy." I prefer not to make my wife and daughter have to deal with me like that.





I do start out a bit more jumpy at a shooting range, but quickly settle out of it.  I guess it is just the environment; at a shooting range, the gunshots are expected.  in the neighborhood, they are not- July 4th, or not.  My Lizard brain does not do holidays.  It sees what environment I am in: neighborhood, no explosions expected.  range, gunshots expected.






From what I've heard, one of the better treatments of PTSD is to immerse yourself in the environment that triggers your anxiety but in a controlled way (not actually threatening) and to surround yourself with positive factors. Don't like crowds because of fear of suicide bombers? Go to a concert, have fun, and get a blowjob. Don't like explosions because of IEDs? Go to fireworks hammered on booze with friends, watch the pretty lights, and work through that shit. Gunfire fucks you up? Go to a gun range and just hang out all day doing normal shit, eat lunch, read a good book . Eventually your brain will stop associating those effects with negative thoughts.








There is another called CBT that is an absolute bitch to get through.  But it sure beats going to Alcohol rehab.


And it is only unexpected noises that cause me to jump.  Anybody should be able to watch fireworks on the 4th.





 
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I am an Iraq war vet, and I do not do fireworks.  But no sign for me.  I just stay at home, and listen to my music with headphones or the night.  But I do not begrudge others their fun.

I do not "snap."  I do get more anxious, shorter temper, and more "jumpy." I prefer not to make my wife and daughter have to deal with me like that.

I do start out a bit more jumpy at a shooting range, but quickly settle out of it.  I guess it is just the environment; at a shooting range, the gunshots are expected.  in the neighborhood, they are not- July 4th, or not.  My Lizard brain does not do holidays.  It sees what environment I am in: neighborhood, no explosions expected.  range, gunshots expected.
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Your experience sounds a lot like my daughter's, and she is most definitely NOT an attention whore. We can shoot at the range all day without problems, aNd she can watch the big boomers downtown without problems. Her son keeps her busy, and time is also helping her with her issues.


I guess it's too bad I didn't raise a hairy-chested Tier One Operator, like some of y'all here. My little girl volunteered to go, did her duty, and is dealing with her issues, now that she's out. She would NEVER put a sign like that in her yard, nor beg the government for a service dog, either. But if she did, she would certainly keep it from pooping in her neighbor's yard.



Did I cover them all?
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That's rough, brother.



One time, we had a dust storm last for almost three days. There were no AAFES convoys running, so the only vegetables Subway had by the second day were tomatoes. It was terrible.
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I've seen things man......once, on the FOB the DFAC ran out of chocolate ice cream....only had vanilla.



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That's rough, brother.



One time, we had a dust storm last for almost three days. There were no AAFES convoys running, so the only vegetables Subway had by the second day were tomatoes. It was terrible.




 



Our DFAC overcooked the lobster for Christmas dinner
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:41:34 PM EDT
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Pics of sign? WTF does it say? I volunteered for PTSD?

Dad was a Vietnam vet. He dove under a table at a wedding once. Apparently a folding chair falling over sounds just like a mortar hitting the tube.

He screamed at me once for smashing a whole roll of caps with a rock outside the window he was sitting in front of.

Well, it looked like he was screaming. All I heard EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Can't really see him flying a sign though.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:46:14 PM EDT
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Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11
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US Veterans are the next up and coming "Everything effects and offends me" group.



Must be generational.



Yep. The new victim class.


Wait until these folks get used to their new standard of living.

Total Living GWOT Veterans:  1,847,047
Total who have filed disability claims:  914,193
Total who have been awarded disability benefits:  810,307
Total claims denied: 15,105
Pending claims:  168,702

GWOT is at around 50k WIA since 9/11

 Unless you have numbers for previous generations you're kinda talking out of your ass. Keep in mind vets these days are better informed than previous generations ever were about the VA. And you're hearing about them more mainly because of our interconnected world. Back in the day an asshole hitching about fireworks in a neighborhood in Wisconsin was just a neighborhood asshole. Today, they're a social media attraction.
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Just the beginning steps towards destroying another Cornerstone of America.
Give it a decade or two and shooting fireworks on the fourth of july will be completely banned so as to not trigger or offend anyone.
Link Posted: 6/30/2015 2:58:47 PM EDT
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This is called prolonged exposure therapy, and it is one of the two evidence based practices the VA uses to treat PTSD (the other being cognitive behavioral therapy).
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From what I've heard, one of the better treatments of PTSD is to immerse yourself in the environment that triggers your anxiety but in a controlled way (not actually threatening) and to surround yourself with positive factors. D



This is called prolonged exposure therapy, and it is one of the two evidence based practices the VA uses to treat PTSD (the other being cognitive behavioral therapy).


Does the VA do a good job with this? From the medical treatments I got for them, I'd never see them about anything more important.
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