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Posted: 9/25/2023 7:43:16 AM EST
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Guns are icky.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:48:06 AM EST
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Lack of gun culture + fear of liability
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:48:47 AM EST
[#3]
lol
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:48:55 AM EST
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They are happy to be armed with sporks or some such thing ???

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:49:19 AM EST
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Part and parcel.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:49:31 AM EST
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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:49:34 AM EST
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Roger that on fear of liability.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:50:37 AM EST
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Do you need to be armed to smile and wave?
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Scare bystanders off with their rotten teeth.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:51:21 AM EST
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They are happy to be armed with sporks or some such thing ???

Granted OP didn’t provide the context, but they’re apparently turning them in in protest of legal action against a recent OIS. Unarmed black male.

Police said the action was being taken after an officer was charged with the murder of unarmed Chris Kaba, 24.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:52:33 AM EST
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Stop or I’ll breath on you!

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:53:23 AM EST
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Is this the first example of the NWO getting rid of local policing and going to a national police force?

Just thinking out loud on the interwebz....
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:56:54 AM EST
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by the looks of some of the videos we have seen here -- it would be a good option for a certain percentage of 'marginal' US police officers

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:57:36 AM EST
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Do you need to be armed to smile and wave?
They can just use these, right?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 7:59:24 AM EST
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The best way to control the opposition is to lead it. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, better known as Lenin.


Get control of government get control of the military...fill the schools with enemy loving propaganda then your country
with hordes of foreign born violent criminals a total anathema to your culture...mix them equally among your native populace.Then begin the clean up and equal purging of everyone...in the name of peace...
The victims will beg you to take over and do it anyway you like.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:01:46 AM EST
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Posse Comitatus whoops wrong country maybe
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:05:14 AM EST
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Great so now the British army will be censoring Arfcom.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:09:58 AM EST
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Roger that on fear of liability.
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Roger that on fear of liability.


In a way, yes. I read something on this yesterday saying that the armed cops are worried because a cop is being prosecuted for shooting a suspect.

BTW: is this the same "Metropolitan Police" of ARFcom fame? Or is it "shame"? The org that leaned on ARF to shut down a thread?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:11:53 AM EST
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Reading is fundamental:  Its a protest and response....   "the action was being taken after an officer was charged with the murder of unarmed Chris Kaba, 24"
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:13:47 AM EST
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They also don't have to worry about their dental plans.  
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Wanna know how I know you guys didn’t read the article?
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Fresh fruit.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:18:44 AM EST
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They also don't have to worry about their dental plans.  

what dental plans?
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:20:21 AM EST
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Army’s ‘information warfare’ unit monitored Covid lockdown critics
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:28:13 AM EST
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IIRC, from reading articles in the past, an officer who shows an interest in firearms won't be armed.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:33:55 AM EST
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Exactly.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:35:14 AM EST
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I look forward to seeing them hitting a new bottom, a new low.

Loop, repeat.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:37:58 AM EST
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IIRC, every use of a firearm by the Brit armed police - no matter how cut and dried - has been prosecuted or locked up in contentious civil litigation for years.  Welcome to the jungle brothers.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:38:53 AM EST
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Huh, British police have more balls than American Police...

Who knew?

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:39:22 AM EST
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Good that the British police are unwilling to chute their own.  If the Army stands down, then it's over.  

That happened in Romania and the USSR.  In the former both its army and police lowered their muzzles.  They were sick of chute'n their own.  In the latter the army refused to leave its barracks to support the militia (Soviet name for the police).  The once mighty Soviet Union passed without a whimper.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:39:39 AM EST
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Just came back from London. Spoke to some armed Met police asking for directions and what not. They seem to be pretty squared away, I would argue more so then your average big city PD.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:40:05 AM EST
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In a way, yes. I read something on this yesterday saying that the armed cops are worried because a cop is being prosecuted for shooting a suspect.

BTW: is this the same "Metropolitan Police" of ARFcom fame? Or is it "shame"? The org that leaned on ARF to shut down a thread?
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Yes I believe so.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:45:32 AM EST
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A lot of big city cops have that "us v. them" attitude.  They are apart from the public and not part of the public.  Sad.

Smaller town cops not so.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:47:12 AM EST
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I knew a couple of Met policemen and when they visited me here in Estados Unidos, I'd take them to the range.  They loved the armalite (as did their Irish girlfirends).  All cops should join the International Police Association which promotes friendship.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:47:39 AM EST
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IIRC, every use of a firearm by the Brit armed police - no matter how cut and dried - has been prosecuted or locked up in contentious civil litigation for years.  Welcome to the jungle brothers.
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The news articles about the shooting are vague.  They all mention the dead guy was unarmed. I read only one that mentioned the dead guy hit one of the police cars with his car, but didn’t say what the circumstances were.  A couple mentioned his car was a suspect in or linked to a “firearm incident” the day before.  I wonder if he tried to flee and the police thought he was trying to ram or run them down when he was shot.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:47:59 AM EST
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A lot of big city cops have that "us v. them" attitude.  They are apart from the public and not part of the public.  Sad.

Smaller town cops not so.
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I have seen a large number of small town cops with a worse attitude than big city.

The pay is absolute dogshit in small towns, the hiring requirements are often quite lax, so you have one cop for a small town who is in his early 20's with all kinds of perceived power.

It's not a good mix.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:49:36 AM EST
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A lot of big city cops have that "us v. them" attitude.  They are apart from the public and not part of the public.  Sad.

Smaller town cops not so.
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Just came back from London. Spoke to some armed Met police asking for directions and what not. They seem to be pretty squared away, I would argue more so then your average big city PD.

A lot of big city cops have that "us v. them" attitude.  They are apart from the public and not part of the public.  Sad.

Smaller town cops not so.


I’m not sure, I’ve had bad experiences with both and great experiences with both. I believe it’s purely on a per officer basis or department by department basis

The Met police were friendly and more than happy to tell me which way was what and where to eat. Unlike the armed German police who shoved a MP5 in my face for the same questions last year
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:50:23 AM EST
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WeLL aT LeASt oWaR SkOOLz ArEnT ShoOtiN' RaNgEz!
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 8:54:29 AM EST
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Members of certain favored groups are not to be shot, regardless of behavior.  It’s like a super power.  Violating this rule will result in punishment, official or unofficially, even for a member of the Met police.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:01:11 AM EST
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Some say the devil’s dead, some say he’s hardly
Some say the devil’s dead, and buried in Killarney
More say he rose again, more say he rose again,
More say he rose again... and joined the British Army

Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:02:06 AM EST
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Wanna know how I know you guys didn’t read the article?
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Wanna know how I know you guys didn’t read the article?

no. You can wait for the racists again.
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Reading is fundamental:  Its a protest and response....   "the action was being taken after an officer was charged with the murder of unarmed Chris Kaba, 24"


According to the anonymous cop in the article, it's really less of a protest and more of a pragmatic decision. Why carry a tool around that you know will send you to prison if you ever have to use it?

One former officer - who left the Met's specialist firearms command a few months ago - told BBC Radio 4's Today Programme that the risk to officers and their families "is just too great".

Speaking anonymously, he explained: "What is obvious to me, they are not acting out of anger or petulance.

"It's not a co-ordinated protest. These are individuals with partners and families who are incredibly committed to their profession.

"They're incredibly concerned it's not worth it anymore."


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Some say the devil’s dead, some say he’s hardly
Some say the devil’s dead, and buried in Killarney
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More say he rose again... and joined the British Army

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Don't start that talking
I could talk all night
My mind was sleepwalking
While I'm putting the world to right
Call careers information
Have you got yourself an occupation?

Oliver's army is here to stay
Oliver's army are on their way
And I would rather be anywhere else
But here today
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:07:38 AM EST
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@Runcible

Looks like "jobs for two, for two of job age!"

I'll join the Met if you do!
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:10:09 AM EST
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The lack of combat power in the UK is pretty startling.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:10:30 AM EST
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looks like a job for these guys...

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Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:10:51 AM EST
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Yeah, I often look back and regret not being friendlier with the hoodrats.
Sad that I didn't appreciate how lucky I was to be exposed to all that vibrancy.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:12:12 AM EST
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A lot of circle talk in that article.  And acronyms that don't help.
Link Posted: 9/25/2023 9:15:04 AM EST
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