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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:05:53 PM EDT
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You bet it does.

Possible page two ownage.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:08:45 PM EDT
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Well I wouldn't call molesting children, raping women, or brutally slaughtering innocent people good and wholesome would you?  So what does that leave?
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I don't believe "good" exists either.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:10:40 PM EDT
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Please allow me to introduce myself

I'm a man of wealth and taste

I've been around for a long, long year

Stole many a man's soul and faith

And I was 'round when Jesus Christ

Had his moment of doubt and pain

Made damn sure that pilate

Washed his hands and sealed his fate




Pleased to meet you

Hope you guess my name

But what's puzzling you

Is the nature of my game




I stuck around St. Petersburg

When I saw it was a time for a change

Killed the czar and his ministers

Anastasia screamed in vain

I rode a tank

Held a general's rank

When the blitzkrieg raged

And the bodies stank




Pleased to meet you

Hope you guess my name

What's puzzling you

Is the nature of my game




I watched with glee

While your kings and queens

Fought for ten decades

For the gods they made

I shouted out,

";Who killed the Kennedys?";

When after all

It was you and me

Let me please introduce myself

I'm a man of wealth and taste

And I laid traps for troubadours

Who get killed before they reached Bombay




Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name

But what's puzzling you

Is the nature of my game

Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name

But what's confusing you

Is just the nature of my game




Just as every cop is a criminal

And all the sinners, saints

As heads is tails

Just call me Lucifer

'Cause I'm in need of some restraint

So if you meet me

Have some courtesy

Have some sympathy, and some taste

Use all your well-learned politesse

Or I'll lay your soul to waste




Pleased to meet you

Hope you guessed my name

But what's puzzling you

Is the nature of my game
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:13:24 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:19:10 PM EDT
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Lima beans----proof right there!
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:19:47 PM EDT
[#6]
Absolutely it exists.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:19:59 PM EDT
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Lima beans----proof right there!
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FUCKING A

 
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:22:43 PM EDT
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It's all relative . You can always find something worse than any example....that thread just happen to hit close to home.
 
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You have obviously never seen what pure evil can do.

It's all relative . You can always find something worse than any example....that thread just happen to hit close to home.
 


Yeah I understand.

I met a piece of walking waste one time who had killed in various brutal way at least 36 age 12 and under children boys and girls (he did not have any appeal for any children that were hitting puberty.  In his words he was doing "what must be done" after he would rape and torture the children he would kill them in various ways to see how they would die.  I say at least 36 because that is the bodies that were found and he openly admitted he killed many more.  Special place in Hell or whatever after life shit hole for that piece of shit.  

To this day I still remember the mass graves that were excavated with these precious lives that had been snuffed out for what?  I can even recall the smell in my mind it is burned into my head for the rest of my life.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:22:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:27:06 PM EDT
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I don't believe "good" exists either.
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Well I wouldn't call molesting children, raping women, or brutally slaughtering innocent people good and wholesome would you?  So what does that leave?

I don't believe "good" exists either.


So even much-maligned Kant refutes both of your advocated beliefs. I'm interested in hearing if you have a sound philosophical basis for your argument or if you're just another 'tard that doesn't understand semantics.

Let's hear it. My gut based on your verbiage so far is that you don't have the first clue, but I'm willing to listen.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:31:50 PM EDT
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Overwhelming evidence it does exist:
Barack Obama
Vladimir Putin
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry
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Maybe Putin. The rest on that list are just self serving shitty politicians. I don't think they could be classified as evil in the classic sense. Just misguided selfish assholes.

I think evil exists, but not in the sense many do. I'm not a religious person, but I can say that I felt the evil on the grounds of Auschwitz. I can't describe it other than it was there, and it was extremely unsettling. I've never been to a place like that anytime before or afterwards.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:33:14 PM EDT
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Evil is an adjective, not a noun.



Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.




So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.




Do people commit acts of viciousness, malice and brutality which are best characterized as Evil? Absolutely.




Are there people who are so depraved, calloused and merciless that they themselves are best categorized as Evil? You bet!
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:34:50 PM EDT
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So even much-maligned Kant refutes both of your advocated beliefs. I'm interested in hearing if you have a sound philosophical basis for your argument or if you're just another 'tard that doesn't understand semantics.



Let's hear it. My gut based on your verbiage so far is that you don't have the first clue, but I'm willing to listen.

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Well I wouldn't call molesting children, raping women, or brutally slaughtering innocent people good and wholesome would you?  So what does that leave?


I don't believe "good" exists either.




So even much-maligned Kant refutes both of your advocated beliefs. I'm interested in hearing if you have a sound philosophical basis for your argument or if you're just another 'tard that doesn't understand semantics.



Let's hear it. My gut based on your verbiage so far is that you don't have the first clue, but I'm willing to listen.

So "I dont believe" isn't good enough for you? If his philosophical basis doesn't meet your soundness criteria, will he not be allowed to believe as he does?

 
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:36:38 PM EDT
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Evil is an adjective, not a noun.




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Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.







So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.







Do people commit acts of viciousness, malice and brutality which are best characterized as Evil? Absolutely.







Are there people who are so depraved, calloused and merciless that they themselves are best categorized as Evil? You bet!


e·vil




'ev?l/




adjective










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    profoundly immoral and malevolent.


    "his evil deeds"


















































































































































noun










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    profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, especially when regarded as a supernatural force.


    "the world is stalked by relentless evil"







 
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:37:09 PM EDT
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Nothing to discuss! That is a stupid thing to say. It does exist, all around you and if you can't see it you are in serious trouble.

Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:38:22 PM EDT
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IMO it should be a verb, not a noun.  I've seen lots of evildoing in the world, but I've never seen any evil.

Then again, libs think guns are evil . . .
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:40:30 PM EDT
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Not as an entity.





Evil is an action and a mindset; therefore it is perpetrated by people.
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This^
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:42:22 PM EDT
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Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.
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Evil is an adjective, not a noun.



Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.




So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.




Do people commit acts of viciousness, malice and brutality which are best characterized as Evil? Absolutely.




Are there people who are so depraved, calloused and merciless that they themselves are best categorized as Evil? You bet!

e·vil


'ev?l/


adjective





  1. 1.



    profoundly immoral and malevolent.

    "his evil deeds"









































































noun





  1. 1.


    profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, especially when regarded as a supernatural force.

    "the world is stalked by relentless evil"


 




 
I don't believe in supernatural boogie men.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:42:37 PM EDT
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ooo!  fun!



IMO, evil does not have any kind of objective existence.  it is a concept created by humans to identify behavior that they find the most disagreeable.

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Evil is a figment. A very purposeful figment in many cases. It's often about a bit more than behaviors.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:43:18 PM EDT
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Overwhelming evidence it does exist:
Barack Obama
Vladimir Putin
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry
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Exhibit A.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:44:23 PM EDT
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Evil is an adjective, not a noun.



Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.




So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.




Do people commit acts of viciousness, malice and brutality which are best characterized as Evil? Absolutely.




Are there people who are so depraved, calloused and merciless that they themselves are best categorized as Evil? You bet!

e·vil


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adjective





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    profoundly immoral and malevolent.

    "his evil deeds"









































































noun





  1. 1.


    profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, especially when regarded as a supernatural force.

    "the world is stalked by relentless evil"


 


 
I don't believe in supernatural boogie men.
Your beef is with Merriam-Webster then.

 
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:46:40 PM EDT
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Am I the only one who sees the "fueled by satan" title??
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:47:13 PM EDT
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Evil is a word used to describe actions perpetrated by man.  IMO, evil does not exist in nature...animals kill out of necessity, defense, territory, etc.  They don't go out and stalk/kill for pleasure.  This was a practice developed by humans as we evolved, and 'evil' is the word we use to define our behavior.  

Evil is a possibility in everyone - attribute it to whatever (devil, chemical make-up, etc.) but man is capable of it.  What makes a person good (in my opinion) is the moral compass that keeps them from committing evil, or recognizes when they do and vows to never do it again.  

Scary, the shit man has conjured up.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:50:02 PM EDT
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Evil is a word used to describe actions perpetrated by man.  IMO, evil does not exist in nature...animals kill out of necessity, defense, territory, etc.  They don't go out and stalk/kill for pleasure.  This was a practice developed by humans as we evolved, and 'evil' is the word we use to define our behavior.  
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Animals do in fact kill for pleasure.

Chimps have engaged in war, including rape and the elimination of other bands of chimps.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:51:32 PM EDT
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Maybe Putin. The rest on that list are just self serving shitty politicians. I don't think they could be classified as evil in the classic sense. Just misguided selfish assholes.
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Overwhelming evidence it does exist:
Barack Obama
Vladimir Putin
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry


Maybe Putin. The rest on that list are just self serving shitty politicians. I don't think they could be classified as evil in the classic sense. Just misguided selfish assholes.


Seems to me that those who engaged in Fast and Furious and the IRS scandal are quite willing to do evil. They are limited by the society they live in in a way Putin isn't.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:55:19 PM EDT
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As a concept and adjective,yes. As the dark side of the force,no.

I think the concept exists to explain the unexplainable ,regarding how awful some humans can be as it doesn't seem possible otherwise that some can be so rotten.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 5:58:04 PM EDT
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So "I dont believe" isn't good enough for you? If his philosophical basis doesn't meet your soundness criteria, will he not be allowed to believe as he does?  
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Well I wouldn't call molesting children, raping women, or brutally slaughtering innocent people good and wholesome would you?  So what does that leave?

I don't believe "good" exists either.


So even much-maligned Kant refutes both of your advocated beliefs. I'm interested in hearing if you have a sound philosophical basis for your argument or if you're just another 'tard that doesn't understand semantics.

Let's hear it. My gut based on your verbiage so far is that you don't have the first clue, but I'm willing to listen.
So "I dont believe" isn't good enough for you? If his philosophical basis doesn't meet your soundness criteria, will he not be allowed to believe as he does?  


Being able to provide a reasoned basis for one's belief system isn't an unreasonable expectation. In fact, it's the most basic of expectations.

Disagree?
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:00:27 PM EDT
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nope
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:00:28 PM EDT
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It's one of the two things I came away with after my 3rd combat tour.

1. Be careful what you wish for.

2. Evil exists

Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:00:43 PM EDT
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So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.
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Evil is an adjective, not a noun.



Evil is a word that we use to describe acts which are abhorrent to our society.




So, does Evil exist like a rock or tree? No.




Do people commit acts of viciousness, malice and brutality which are best characterized as Evil? Absolutely.




Are there people who are so depraved, calloused and merciless that they themselves are best categorized as Evil? You bet!

e·vil


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adjective





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    profoundly immoral and malevolent.

    "his evil deeds"









































































noun





  1. 1.


    profound immorality, wickedness, and depravity, especially when regarded as a supernatural force.

    "the world is stalked by relentless evil"


 


 
I don't believe in supernatural boogie men.
Your beef is with Merriam-Webster then.  
They included the noun to accommodate the language of the superstitious.

 
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:01:37 PM EDT
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Read up on Unit 731 and get back to me with that question.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:02:57 PM EDT
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Uh, yeah evil exists.
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Some would argue- freewill
Others that there is evil, a force that tests us constantly...
A lively debate is likely to ensue.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:16:43 PM EDT
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I have another question, does God exist?

If so, then we know that God is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient and completely good.

If that is so, then why does evil even exist?

Because man has free will. And sometimes men chose evil. Yet God, for some reason, refuses to interfere with evil.

Consider the Paris shootings - the BGs AKs did not jam, nor did they miss their targets.

The answer is yes, the devil, the evil, etc all are very real and that raises the question: "Where is God"?


Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:45:26 PM EDT
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Is a rabid dog evil?
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:46:45 PM EDT
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its relevant to the situation.



for instance, a male lion takes over a pride...one of the first thing he does is kill all the young cubs that is not his.




is that evil or just nature ?
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:51:01 PM EDT
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Seems to me that those who engaged in Fast and Furious and the IRS scandal are quite willing to do evil. They are limited by the society they live in in a way Putin isn't.
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Overwhelming evidence it does exist:
Barack Obama
Vladimir Putin
Hillary Clinton
John Kerry


Maybe Putin. The rest on that list are just self serving shitty politicians. I don't think they could be classified as evil in the classic sense. Just misguided selfish assholes.


Seems to me that those who engaged in Fast and Furious and the IRS scandal are quite willing to do evil. They are limited by the society they live in in a way Putin isn't.


No they aren't. They are just a bunch of incompetent boobs with more power than sense and think they are free to do what they please. A couple border agents were killed by a weapon sold in some stupid scheme the government thought would somehow help them track weapons. They used the IRS to fuck with political openents. Both actions are completely unacceptable and stupid, but not exactly on the scale of sadistic torture, mass murder or genocide.....
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:51:54 PM EDT
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Does Happiness exist ?

Sorrow?


some people.  sheesh.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:52:57 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:54:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Does "luck" exist?
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:54:23 PM EDT
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Cujo = Zombie = YES!

: ... And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:55:27 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:57:45 PM EDT
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Uh, yeah.

OP, if you don't think it's evil that exists in people like Hitler, Pol Pot, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, etc. etc.?

Link Posted: 1/14/2015 6:59:55 PM EDT
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Evil is an action and a mindset; therefore it is perpetrated by people.
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Evil exists within humans.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 7:01:30 PM EDT
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Absolutely.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 7:01:39 PM EDT
[#47]
Are you blind?
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 7:02:29 PM EDT
[#48]
I am not sure I believe in hell, but I do believe in evil.
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 7:03:39 PM EDT
[#49]
aye, it does
Link Posted: 1/14/2015 7:04:30 PM EDT
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For it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things. If not so, my firstborn in the wilderness, righteousness could not be brought to pass, neither wickedness, neither holiness nor misery, neither good nor bad.

Wherefore, all things must needs be a compound in one; wherefore, if it should be one body it must needs remain as dead, having no life neither death, nor corruption nor incorruption, happiness nor misery, neither sense nor insensibility.
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"opposition in all things" is exactly what came to mind for me, too.
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