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Posted: 9/28/2004 10:18:43 AM EDT
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There are several aftermarket parts such as these for the Sub2K. Check out Kel-Tec Owners Group for details... |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 10:23:28 AM EDT
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Any mountain bikers / road cyclists / hikers out there? When folded these rifles fit perfectly in a Camelback. The one we have here has been flawless for thousands of rounds. -Z |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 10:48:13 AM EDT
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Works great, love mine... it serves its purpose... great trunk gun.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 10:59:21 AM EDT
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If they do I hope they use grease gun mags. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:14:11 AM EDT
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Cool news on the 30 rnd Glock and USA mag successes. Pistol cal plate shoots are my only reason to want a carbine with big mags, and this is a lot less than the AR option.
Thanks |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:35:55 AM EDT
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Horse puckey. I have 2 sub-2000s. (Ok, I have one. Wife stole the first one.) Taking 'em out shooting is like being a kid with his first .22 all over again. Light, comfortable, at least minute of paper plate accurate out to 100 yards, no real recoil, overall a great little plinker. Ammo is dirt cheap, mags are ten bucks each (S&W configuration, 17 round mags via ammoclip.com.), and the KT sling costs around ten bucks and works very well. The weapon itself is short and very manuverable indoors. Bought the first one as a toy and novelty, not expecting any more than that from it. After at least 5000 rounds downrange out of the two of them, one is now a bedroom gun and the other is my truck gun. Does a bad one get out of the factory occasionally? Yup. Does Kel-Tec put it right under warranty? Yup. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 11:41:42 AM EDT
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I have one in .40. Uses Glock 22 mags. It's a fun little carbine with the Scherrer 29 round mags.
That only thing that pisses me off is now I have to get a Glock 22 to have the carbine/pistol combo. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:23:29 PM EDT
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yeah, I had one and it shot really good with wolf ammo! I sold it to a freind of mine. we took his 17 year old nephew out and he (the 17 year old) was getting a lot of body hits at 100 yds using iron sites. In fact I did'nt really see any holes outside the black! Good gun for the price. It used S&W M59 mags though.Either way it was a good gun. My 2 cents
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:40:32 PM EDT
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I've got one in 9mm, it uses S&W mags. It's been reliable, accurate enough, and surprisingly comfortable to shoot. I wish mine was the Glock magazine model, but I didn't have any Glocks at the time I got it and since the P11 uses S&W mags I already had a few.
Here it is with my P11 and P32: 
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:47:17 PM EDT
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I like their pocket guns but that thing is junk.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:49:04 PM EDT
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...I just bought one from ger42. I should be getting it Friday from my FFL, I'll let you know. But, from reading the manual, it's a very promising firearm. Each Sub-2000 comes with a key that can lock and unlock the weapon in folded or unfolded mode. It never has to be "locked," but it can be. Also, if the firearm is locked in the folded position, it CAN NOT FIRE. Any attempt to force the weapon to unfolded mode will render it unoperational (so your kids can't use this unless you give them the key). Also, it's about the simplest weapon I've seen. If you were to build a non-folding model, you'd only need an aluminum block and tube. Also, don't forget, that the joules out of a Kel-Tec at 25 yards is equal to that of a .357 magnum (so therefore, it's great for home-defense). Out to 25 yards, you're basically firing a .357 magnum. Out to 200 yards, it drops off to about the strength of a .380, however. Also, there's many accessories, rails, scope mounts, ect. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:52:57 PM EDT
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Highly disagree. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 3:53:29 PM EDT
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A buddy of mine keeps his at my house. Consequently, I shoot it a good bit.
Fantastic, fantastic gun. Very very good accuracy, practically no recoil, very very reliable. I'd get one before an AR upper. I can't recommend it enough. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 4:18:15 PM EDT
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I've had one for a year now. It's a good plinker and I haven't had one single problem with it. I only use glock factory magazines. It fits in a small gun case, which easily fits in a standard file cabinet. Four other guys I work with bought one at the same time. None of them have had any problems. For $250.00, you can't go wrong with one.
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Posted: 9/28/2004 4:27:59 PM EDT
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I live less than 20 miles from the Kel-Tec factory, and toured it. An impressive operation.
Their quality HAS gotten a lot better over the years. I know of no RECENT customer of theirs who was unhappy with his purchase. I'm waiting for the day they do an AR. CJ |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 4:30:45 PM EDT
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they tried it was the SU-16 |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 5:22:09 PM EDT
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You guys saying they are junk, post some specific problems you personally have had?
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Posted: 9/28/2004 6:07:05 PM EDT
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I know of the SU-16.
I'm hoping Kel-Tec will make a REAL AR clone. Not something that just uses M16 mags and might share one or two other M16/AR family components. I'm not holding my breath, though. George Kelgren seems to follow his own muse. CJ |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 6:12:22 PM EDT
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Can't help but notice most of the positive comments come from people who own and shoot the thing, while the negative comments are overly general, evidently come from people who don't have one, and provide no descriptions of any specific shortcomings. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 6:16:03 PM EDT
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your avatiar is driving me crazy 
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Posted: 9/28/2004 6:34:46 PM EDT
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me too! 
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Posted: 9/28/2004 6:38:58 PM EDT
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How much does one of these run? Thr su 16 also if you know?
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:05:56 PM EDT
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Own one.
P226 model Love it, great plinker I reccomend slip on hand grip (Handall?) +P Ammo seems to cycle better never get to shoot it at the range because everyone takes a liking to it |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:07:45 PM EDT
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The Subs go for around 300 bucks. |
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Posted: 9/28/2004 7:15:02 PM EDT
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Sub-2000s can be bought for $250. Most run $275-300. SU-16s run around the $400 mark, generally a little less. |
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Posted: 10/1/2004 12:05:23 PM EDT
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BTT
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Posted: 10/1/2004 3:14:55 PM EDT
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I paid 390$ for my SU-16. It's on it's second case of Wolf with no problems. One of these days I have to get around to putting a red dot on it. The scope mount is integral to the receiver. It's certainly not an AR, despite the common magazine, but it beats the hell out of a mini 14.
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Posted: 10/2/2004 8:06:11 AM EDT
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Wow, not a single specific response. Go figure. |
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Posted: 10/2/2004 8:13:00 AM EDT
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Have seen a few keltec pistols that kick ass as well, its all about price some times I guess, If it's cheap it cheap shit 
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