Congress shits out more than that practically any time they pass a law these days.

When I was younger I heard rumors about Northwoods(not by name), considered to be conspiracy theories. I thought it sounded crazy at first, why would Americans plain an attack on Americans...then years later "they" admit to it?

I don't think you see the levels of corruption  that "we" know about over night.

The government has multiple 70 meter antennas.

So you believe the government when they confirm your already decided upon "facts". You don't believe them otherwise.

Of course you don't have to listen to a word the government says about the moon landing to know it's real, but go ahead go through life not knowing anything ever.

Stupid as his post may be, I fail to see how "Laughs in SR-71" is much of a rebuttal.

Sure thing with 4 wheelers wrapped in aluminum foil and guys wearing scuba suits while talking to the President on rotary phones. Good thing they didn't just walk right off the edge considering the horizon looked like it was 5ft away.

And I know we're so woke and diverse now that all the Affirmative Action hires couldn't duplicate the feat now despite the technological progress.  We'd have to outsource to Japan or something.

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I’m with you. Matter of fact, I think we’ve done more than they are telling us.
Too many people working at NASA, Skunkworks, Area 51, and all the rest of the secret facilities to be just twiddling their thumbs.

But, I will always listen to contrasting views.

Because it's still the fastest air breathing plane ever built and it was built in the late 50s? We had plenty of technology.

I listen to contrasting views, mostly for the lulz.

SR-71 is pretty cool, I believe it's still the fastest plane not powered by a rocket engine. Astronaut/ pilots.

I saw something saying they have one operational to test parts for going into space.

Why do you believe that? Have you flown one? Have you measured the speed of one in flight?

I know this is going to blow some GD minds because its par for the course here to stick doggedly to your beliefs etc but.......

I was a sceptic for a long time.

But, gradually the research points to us actually landing on the moon.

Now a believer.

14 pages and still not even a weak attempt to construct an argument against a moon landing.

Guess all that question asking doesn’t produce anything.

Stop and think (might be a stretch, but try) about that for a second.

A secret plan (and it was only a plan) that was shared only between the CIA and the White House and which was a fraction of the scope and complexity of the moon mission was proposed in 1962. Today, the details of it have been leaked everywhere and you can literally find scans of the original documents online.

But for a conspiracy to fake the culmination (more than once) of a decade+ long program to land men in the moon and bring them back , involving countless agencies, contractors, and even foreign governments? Absolutely nothing has surfaced.

That engine isn't like a normal jet engine. The ram jet with adjustable intake cone is a work of engineering art

They did a few air show demos with SR-71s.

I once heard them described as, "like watching Emperor Palpatine cook a turkey with force lightning."

A freeze-frame from the Apollo 17 lunar liftoff video (December 1972) shows the exact same tracks in the lunar soil as imaged by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter in September of 2011.

Just to drive the point home:

On the left is a screenshot from a documentary on YouTube about Apollo 17, showing a freeze-frame from the video taken inside the LM as it blasts off from the moon's surface in December of 1972.  You can see the Challenger Descent Stage, lots of craters, and astronaut footpaths and paths from the Lunar Rover.

On the right is an image from the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter taken in September of 2011 of the Apollo 17 landing site.  Original image here.  I have rotated it in GIMP to roughly the same orientation as the image on the left.  There is a slight perspective difference since the image on the left was taken at an angle while the image at the right was taken looking essentially straight down.  

Note how all the tracks from the Lunar Rover and the astronaut's foot paths line up.  Note how all the various craters all line up. I've drawn an approximate view on the LRO image of what you see in the video freeze-frame on the left.  Right-click and view in a new tab to see it in full-resolution so you can really view the details.

Don't know what to tell you if you don't believe we went to the moon, when presented with something like this.

This.

It's a shame they took physics and shop out of HS. Or if it's there it's so dumbed down you get a country full of chippers.


This is why China is #1 in science and the US is way down there, not even in the top 20.

I worked in a genetics research lab when I attended a large university for my BS. When I left most of the grad students on that floor were Chinese with a smattering of indians and a few middle easterners. There were hardly any Americans trying to get advanced degrees in the various hard sciences. This was in the late 80's, now we don't know what a woman is.

Your being optimistic.

Satan invented the SR-71.

I'm glad you feel that way because it means you haven't run into the plethora of imbeciles I have. I assure you, people are really that stupid, I personally know quite a few and it's pretty unnerving when you realize how many are out there.

Because it was amazing technology for an aircraft made in the 50's. It was light-years advanced beyond anything else that existed then and it still remains relevant today.

Yet the edgy unbelievers in this thread wouldn't be any different than diversity hires.

You mean the space the government faked going to?

Some things are better left unsaid.

Well the chippy poster gave it the old college try, pointing out that the moon is too small of a target and there isn't enough air conditioning, or something like that.

1. It's expensive as f--- to go back
2. It's just a huge rock

There's a moon walk photo that shows a red exit sign in the upper right corner, proving that it was shot in a studio.  Totally not photoshopped at all!  

He actually never asked a single question.  

Is it just me or does it seem that the people who believe we couldn't have gone to the moon the same kind of people who believe we have space alien technology captured from the supposed Roswell crash in 1947.


We captured technology from space aliens, who came here across countless light years in 1947... and we couldn't manage to go to the moon in 1969?

I would love to see a study where these two questions were put to people, just to see what the correlation is.

It seems to me a lot of "us" on the right hold on to what America was. "We're" the law abiding, "we" "fight back" through approved ways.

I'm not calling for violence, but do we sit back upholding the  law and the American way while the Country is destroyed around us. "We" love the history it means something to "us" while "they" actively fight from many different fronts.

To much patriotism, your probably on a list...

Why not question things, everything I knew about America, if it was true we wouldn't be in the position we're in.

You keep saying you have questions.

List the questions you have.

Did you post in the wrong thread?

It has been bleached completely white.

How many governments around the world participated in telemetry?
How many people listened to the commas around the world?
How many people built the electronics?
How many people built the mechanical systems?

Why would they fake a 1201 error?
Why would they fake having to adjust the landing and almost running out of fuel?
Why would they have having to use a pen to repair a broken switch that would have stranded Apollo 11 on the moon?
Why would they fake switching a console to an alt position after a lightning strike to continue a mission? On a later flight.

In the “how” group above are many thousands of people.

Falling and missing is what an orbit is….

It would absolutely destroy a sane person’s outlook on life. I guess you don’t use science, yet you’re on a computer - weird.

They used antennas the size of football fields to capture the signal and boost them enough to be useable. Places like Parkes in Australia.

Says who?

They used giant radio telescopes to get the signals because they were weak. The data is out there and can be found. If you want to know, do the research.

Do you have proof that the moon is real?

Does "can't be answered" mean "I don't know how to find them"? Although, that you think voltage is significant rafter than wattage, I'm not sure you're able to interpret the information (what do you think voltage has to do with radio transmission power?).

Here's the specs for you.
NASA doc

And a bit of background info about the unit
Mororola


Currently we have s-band units that deliver 10Mbps from orbit to a 3M dish with 2W of transmission power from a 10W unit draw. When you have receiving units with much larger dishes and big amplifiers and you have zero clutter between receiver and sender, it doesn't take much transmit power.

S-band was invented for Apollo but is still used precisely because of it's very low power requirements.

of course we do. ffs stop trolling

But do you though? If certain people refuse to accept video or photographs taken during the landing, telescope photographs showing the landing sites, experiments using the laser reflectors left behind or the first hand accounts of everyone involved - what evidence is acceptable that the moon is actually a planetary body and not just some weird lightning phenomenon or something?

You do realise that not only was the earth believed to be round but a decently accurate estimate of its diameter was  produced two thousand years before we put anything into space? It's a simple experiment, you can reproduce it yourself (much more easily thanks to modern mapping data) and you don't need one of the locations to be on the tropic or to do it on the solstice, that was just what gave him the idea. You just need two sticks, a friend at a different latitude, a map and a basic understanding of geometry.



Eratosthenes had heard from travelers about a well in Syene (now Aswan, Egypt) with an interesting property: at noon on the summer solstice, which occurs about June 21 every year, the sun illuminated the entire bottom of this well, without casting any shadows, indicating that the sun was directly overhead. Eratosthenes then measured the angle of a shadow cast by a stick at noon on the summer solstice in Alexandria, and found it made an angle of about 7.2 degrees, or about 1/50 of a complete circle.

He realized that if he knew the distance from Alexandria to Syene, he could easily calculate the circumference of Earth. But in those days it was extremely difficult to determine distance with any accuracy. Some distances between cities were measured by the time it took a camel caravan to travel from one city to the other. But camels have a tendency to wander and to walk at varying speeds. So Eratosthenes hired bematists, professional surveyors trained to walk with equal length steps. They found that Syene lies about 5000 stadia from Alexandria.

Eratosthenes then used this to calculate the circumference of the Earth to be about 250,000 stadia. Modern scholars disagree about the length of the stadium used by Eratosthenes. Values between 500 and about 600 feet have been suggested, putting Eratosthenes’ calculated circumference between about 24,000 miles and about 29,000 miles. The Earth is now known to measure about 24,900 miles around the equator, slightly less around the poles.

Eratosthenes had made the assumption that the sun was so far away that its rays were essentially parallel, that Alexandria is due north of Syene, and that Syene is exactly on the tropic of cancer. While not exactly correct, these assumptions are good enough to make a quite accurate measurement using Eratosthenes’ method. His basic method is sound, and is even used by schoolchildren around the world today.

Other Greek scholars repeated the feat of measuring the Earth using a procedure similar to Eratosthenes’ method. Several decades after Eratosthenes measurement, Posidonius used the star Canopus as his light source and the cities of Rhodes and Alexandria as his baseline. But because he had an incorrect value for the distance between Rhodes and Alexandria, he came up with a value for Earth’s circumference of about 18,000 miles, nearly 7,000 miles too small.

I am quite surprised at the number of ppl that voted yes. My faith has been restored in GD. Well, until I click on the next thread that is.

He just virtue signaled that he was an asker of questions.