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Link Posted: 12/20/2015 1:47:50 AM EDT
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He supports roving wire taps targeting specific terrorist cells, not broad surveillance on everyone.

Either way, that cat is out of the bag already.  If you go down Rubio on the issues, he's way conservative, more so than Romney.

One thing you see resonate in Rubio's statements on all the issues is he wants America great, powerful, and recognizes that we need a vision for the future.  His statements are full of this.

Spend some time studying the issues.  Marco Rubio on the Issues
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Other than the gang of eight amnesty abortion, Rubio has been a staunch conservative.  Like I posted earlier he is the fourth most conservative senator.  He is not a rino, he is more tea party than rino.

What about the wholesale spying on American citizens by Big Government?  NOT conservative OR tea party at all.

He supports roving wire taps targeting specific terrorist cells, not broad surveillance on everyone.

Either way, that cat is out of the bag already.  If you go down Rubio on the issues, he's way conservative, more so than Romney.

One thing you see resonate in Rubio's statements on all the issues is he wants America great, powerful, and recognizes that we need a vision for the future.  His statements are full of this.

Spend some time studying the issues.  Marco Rubio on the Issues

About 3 or 4 years ago, I told a Hispanic coworker from NYC that Rubio will be president some day.  I used to be a fan.  Not anymore.

His support for illegal immigration and amnesty, along with working so closely with Chuck "I support the 2nd Amendment, BUT .. (I want to destroy it)" Schumer told me what I needed to know about him.  He ran ads lying about Ted Cruz not supporting keeping America safe regarding national security because he did not vote for a bill that allows blanket surveillance of Americans.

Rubio is a smooth talker and he's polished, but he's the preferred establishment candidate.  FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT.  Look at how they screw us, the latest example being the omnibus, which Rubio FAILED to vote against.

No thanks.  You can keep Rubio.  We need Ted Cruz.
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About 3 or 4 years ago, I told a Hispanic coworker from NYC that Rubio will be president some day.  I used to be a fan.  Not anymore.

His support for illegal immigration and amnesty, along with working so closely with Chuck "I support the 2nd Amendment, BUT .. (I want to destroy it)" Schumer told me what I needed to know about him.  He ran ads lying about Ted Cruz not supporting keeping America safe regarding national security because he did not vote for a bill that allows blanket surveillance of Americans.

Rubio is a smooth talker and he's polished, but he's the preferred establishment candidate.  FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT.  Look at how they screw us, the latest example being the omnibus, which Rubio FAILED to vote against.

No thanks.  You can keep Rubio.  We need Ted Cruz.
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Other than the gang of eight amnesty abortion, Rubio has been a staunch conservative.  Like I posted earlier he is the fourth most conservative senator.  He is not a rino, he is more tea party than rino.

What about the wholesale spying on American citizens by Big Government?  NOT conservative OR tea party at all.

He supports roving wire taps targeting specific terrorist cells, not broad surveillance on everyone.

Either way, that cat is out of the bag already.  If you go down Rubio on the issues, he's way conservative, more so than Romney.

One thing you see resonate in Rubio's statements on all the issues is he wants America great, powerful, and recognizes that we need a vision for the future.  His statements are full of this.

Spend some time studying the issues.  Marco Rubio on the Issues

About 3 or 4 years ago, I told a Hispanic coworker from NYC that Rubio will be president some day.  I used to be a fan.  Not anymore.

His support for illegal immigration and amnesty, along with working so closely with Chuck "I support the 2nd Amendment, BUT .. (I want to destroy it)" Schumer told me what I needed to know about him.  He ran ads lying about Ted Cruz not supporting keeping America safe regarding national security because he did not vote for a bill that allows blanket surveillance of Americans.

Rubio is a smooth talker and he's polished, but he's the preferred establishment candidate.  FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT.  Look at how they screw us, the latest example being the omnibus, which Rubio FAILED to vote against.

No thanks.  You can keep Rubio.  We need Ted Cruz.


Don't get me wrong, I am a Cruz supporter.  Hell I plan on going to a Cruz rally next Wed.  I'm just saying I understand the electoral college and feel that Rubio is not that bad.  I assure you I will vote for Cruz on super Tuesday, but I won't be heart broken if Trump or Rubio is on the ticket in November.  Rubio is far more conservative than establishment.  
Link Posted: 12/20/2015 1:57:24 AM EDT
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Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.

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Rubio is not as bad as Arfcom portrays.  I would much prefer Cruz, but Rubio would be a good president.




Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.

Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.

 



But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.
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Who is gonna win over the moderates?

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Interesting why do you think?
Link Posted: 12/20/2015 2:10:57 AM EDT
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That is a nightmare ticket for me as well....
Link Posted: 12/20/2015 2:16:03 AM EDT
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I have found most of what Miami JBT to be invalid on this site.  I rarely agree with him.  

If you look at the consistency that Rubio has on the issues, it's very conservative.  Where he really differs is that he is talking about a vision for the future.  Other than Trump, I don't hear that from the other candidates.

Outlier voters won't matter anyway once the electorate sees and connects with who they will connect with.  Right now, a lot of people connect with Trump because of Celebrity Apprentice, and he is an accomplished outsider with no political career.  He's a father figure to Millennials since they saw someone being decisive for once on TV and in his speeches.

I'm not an advocate for anyone's campaign right now, just looking at all of this as if I was on the outside, using metrics that get overlooked by almost everyone.
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(Although the net worth thing is probably due to having hardly any equity and a lot of debt in that $700K house).

I have found most of what Miami JBT to be invalid on this site.  I rarely agree with him.  

If you look at the consistency that Rubio has on the issues, it's very conservative.  Where he really differs is that he is talking about a vision for the future.  Other than Trump, I don't hear that from the other candidates.

Outlier voters won't matter anyway once the electorate sees and connects with who they will connect with.  Right now, a lot of people connect with Trump because of Celebrity Apprentice, and he is an accomplished outsider with no political career.  He's a father figure to Millennials since they saw someone being decisive for once on TV and in his speeches.

I'm not an advocate for anyone's campaign right now, just looking at all of this as if I was on the outside, using metrics that get overlooked by almost everyone.


Rubio talks a lot.

He doesn't actually do anything that he talks about.

He's a liar -- just like Cruz, if you heard Cruz on CNN getting the shit beaten out of him about his flip-flops on immigration you'd see that clearly.  Neither of them will get anywhere near the white house.
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I have found most of what Miami JBT to be invalid on this site.  I rarely agree with him.  
If you look at the consistency that Rubio has on the issues, it's very conservative.  Where he really differs is that he is talking about a vision for the future.  Other than Trump, I don't hear that from the other candidates.
Outlier voters won't matter anyway once the electorate sees and connects with who they will connect with.  Right now, a lot of people connect with Trump because of Celebrity Apprentice, and he is an accomplished outsider with no political career.  He's a father figure to Millennials since they saw someone being decisive for once on TV and in his speeches.
I'm not an advocate for anyone's campaign right now, just looking at all of this as if I was on the outside, using metrics that get overlooked by almost everyone.
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(Although the net worth thing is probably due to having hardly any equity and a lot of debt in that $700K house).





I have found most of what Miami JBT to be invalid on this site.  I rarely agree with him.  
If you look at the consistency that Rubio has on the issues, it's very conservative.  Where he really differs is that he is talking about a vision for the future.  Other than Trump, I don't hear that from the other candidates.
Outlier voters won't matter anyway once the electorate sees and connects with who they will connect with.  Right now, a lot of people connect with Trump because of Celebrity Apprentice, and he is an accomplished outsider with no political career.  He's a father figure to Millennials since they saw someone being decisive for once on TV and in his speeches.
I'm not an advocate for anyone's campaign right now, just looking at all of this as if I was on the outside, using metrics that get overlooked by almost everyone.
So the fact that him claiming his family fled Cuba as poltical refugees was proven to be a lie isn't true?

 









Or the fact that he is for open borders and the bringing in of a shit ton of 3rd worlders isn't true?






Or the fact that he was caught using FL State Credit Cards for personal use isn't true?




Or the fact that he was caught using campaign funds for personal expenses isn't true?







Or the fact that he said that he found being a Senator hard work and was tired of it isn't true?










Or the fact that as MY ELECTED SENATOR, he doesn't do shit isn't true.






Come to my State, Live in my city, and talk to my people.... the people that initially voted for him and put him in power. Rubio has lost a lot of support in his own fucking city. Just like Jeb has.







Rubio lost all credibility when he made the bullshit lie about fleeing Castro. In my community, that is serious shit. Especially amongst the older Cubans... some of who fought against Castro in places like the Bay of Pigs. That is the same as some huckster claiming to be a Navy Seal when he wasn't.












 
 
 
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Jeb! Thanks you for your support.
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Romney in a landslide

Link Posted: 12/20/2015 2:23:42 AM EDT
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Hell, Rubio claims to be a fiscally responsible and conservative person yet his personal finances are in ruins.










You know why Younger People are going to Trump? Because they see someone that made it big. They want that too. To today's Gen X'ers and Millennials. The economy is the number one thing.




As a Gen X'er, I want someone that can actually make a buck run the government. Not someone that burns through cash buying a 24 foot boat and has a home foreclosed on while racking up debt on credit cards... all while advocating open borders and allowing 3rd worlders to come in and take jobs away from Americans.











 
Link Posted: 12/20/2015 2:28:37 AM EDT
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Like the last Presidential election when the Dems said they feared a Romney ticket, then when Romney got the nod and FBHO told the country he based obama care on what Romney had in Mass.  Also how many polls have been right since 2008, the news/Dems never thought they would loose as much as the have.  Even in the last round back in Nov. there was three or four Dems that lost and nobody even thought that was going to happen.
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So the fact that him claiming his family fled Cuba as poltical refugees was proven to be a lie isn't true?  

Or the fact that he is for open borders and the bringing in of a shit ton of 3rd worlders isn't true?
Or the fact that he was caught using FL State Credit Cards for personal use isn't true?
Or the fact that he was caught using campaign funds for personal expenses isn't true?
Or the fact that he said that he found being a Senator hard work and was tired of it isn't true?
Or the fact that as MY ELECTED SENATOR, he doesn't do shit isn't true.

Come to my State, Live in my city, and talk to my people.... the people that initially voted for him and put him in power. Rubio has lost a lot of support in his own fucking city. Just like Jeb has.

Rubio lost all credibility when he made the bullshit lie about fleeing Castro. In my community, that is serious shit. Especially amongst the older Cubans... some of who fought against Castro in places like the Bay of Pigs. That is the same as some huckster claiming to be a Navy Seal when he wasn't.      
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 Listen to this man!

(Although the net worth thing is probably due to having hardly any equity and a lot of debt in that $700K house).

I have found most of what Miami JBT to be invalid on this site.  I rarely agree with him.  

If you look at the consistency that Rubio has on the issues, it's very conservative.  Where he really differs is that he is talking about a vision for the future.  Other than Trump, I don't hear that from the other candidates.

Outlier voters won't matter anyway once the electorate sees and connects with who they will connect with.  Right now, a lot of people connect with Trump because of Celebrity Apprentice, and he is an accomplished outsider with no political career.  He's a father figure to Millennials since they saw someone being decisive for once on TV and in his speeches.

I'm not an advocate for anyone's campaign right now, just looking at all of this as if I was on the outside, using metrics that get overlooked by almost everyone.
So the fact that him claiming his family fled Cuba as poltical refugees was proven to be a lie isn't true?  

Or the fact that he is for open borders and the bringing in of a shit ton of 3rd worlders isn't true?
Or the fact that he was caught using FL State Credit Cards for personal use isn't true?
Or the fact that he was caught using campaign funds for personal expenses isn't true?
Or the fact that he said that he found being a Senator hard work and was tired of it isn't true?
Or the fact that as MY ELECTED SENATOR, he doesn't do shit isn't true.

Come to my State, Live in my city, and talk to my people.... the people that initially voted for him and put him in power. Rubio has lost a lot of support in his own fucking city. Just like Jeb has.

Rubio lost all credibility when he made the bullshit lie about fleeing Castro. In my community, that is serious shit. Especially amongst the older Cubans... some of who fought against Castro in places like the Bay of Pigs. That is the same as some huckster claiming to be a Navy Seal when he wasn't.      

Here's the main problem I have with most of your statements:

They read like Democrat talking points repeatedly.  Your perspective on things I am familiar with is way off most of the time, and I find myself disagreeing with you regularly.

If you actually look at Marco Rubio's family immigration story, one that happened well before he was born, they were first fleeing the dictator, Batista.  After the Revolution, they actually hoped to resettle there, but Castro was even worse.

To openly express your hatred for another human being is a bit excessive, especially since he wasn't even born at the time.  He has to rely on the story from his parents, who probably don't want any confusion that they were entertaining ideas of going back to Castro's Cuba, so people within the ex-pat community wouldn't label them communists.

Your talking points are straight off the Huffington Post though, not just on immigration, but campaign finances, personal assets, and credit cards.

If you study US Presidential politics, campaigns start in stealth mode sometimes decades before they even get near entertaining a run.  The candidates look very closely within their own party, as well as the other party, and begin oppositional research.  The Democrap party has pretty much a monopoly on the big presstitute networks, and their campaigns issue talking points to these networks as election seasons kick into gear.

Every one of your talking points comes from:

Politifact (founded by Bill Adair-major connections to DNC)
Huffington post (DNC front)
NPR (DNC front)
CBS (DNCfront)
NY Times (DNC front)
Washington Post (DNC front)
Mother Jones (DNC/CPUSA)

Can you see why I have a problem with your claims?  I'm not even anywhere near decided on who I'm voting for, just pointing out what I see.  One thing I do know is that in ex-pat communities, which I am also part of, I'm not used to open hatred of another person, even if I disagree with them on politics.  I have lifelong friends who are typical leftist/socialists that I simply disagree with on about everything when it comes to politics, especially guns, healthcare, defense, environment, energy, education, etc., but we're still friends.
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Romney in a landslide

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4 words;

Romney in a landslide




Not saying I believe it. Its just what the polls show.

Personally, I think Hillary can beat Rubio.  I think the Dems figured out the best way to beat the Republicans is not to gain the majority of Independents, but to make Conservatives stay home.  Too many conservatives are pissed about Rubio being in the gang of 8.  

This is why we need a true conservative as the nominee.  The middle of the road shit just aint working anymore.
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Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.



I know, you would think he led the gang of eight the way he's treated on arfcom.



 
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Bingo. If the R's don't win Florida and Ohio, it's game over. They also have to carry Virginia or Colorado. Hispanic votes will matter in most of these places.

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You're one of about seven Republicans that understand this. Florida and Ohio. That's it.


Bingo. If the R's don't win Florida and Ohio, it's game over. They also have to carry Virginia or Colorado. Hispanic votes will matter in most of these places.




There are also hotly contested Senate races in those states that are must win to keep control of that chamber.
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I believe this. I think they are most afraid of Cruz. Anyone with principles and integrity is a huge threat to their lying asses.
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Here's the main problem I have with most of your statements:
They read like Democrat talking points repeatedly.  Your perspective on things I am familiar with is way off most of the time, and I find myself disagreeing with you regularly.
If you actually look at Marco Rubio's family immigration story, one that happened well before he was born, they were first fleeing the dictator, Batista.  After the Revolution, they actually hoped to resettle there, but Castro was even worse.
To openly express your hatred for another human being is a bit excessive, especially since he wasn't even born at the time.  He has to rely on the story from his parents, who probably don't want any confusion that they were entertaining ideas of going back to Castro's Cuba, so people within the ex-pat community wouldn't label them communists.
Your talking points are straight off the Huffington Post though, not just on immigration, but campaign finances, personal assets, and credit cards.
If you study US Presidential politics, campaigns start in stealth mode sometimes decades before they even get near entertaining a run.  The candidates look very closely within their own party, as well as the other party, and begin oppositional research.  The Democrap party has pretty much a monopoly on the big presstitute networks, and their campaigns issue talking points to these networks as election seasons kick into gear.
Every one of your talking points comes from:
Politifact (founded by Bill Adair-major connections to DNC)






Huffington post (DNC front)






NPR (DNC front)






CBS (DNCfront)






NY Times (DNC front)






Washington Post (DNC front)






Mother Jones (DNC/CPUSA)
Can you see why I have a problem with your claims?  I'm not even anywhere near decided on who I'm voting for, just pointing out what I see.  One thing I do know is that in ex-pat communities, which I am also part of, I'm not used to open hatred of another person, even if I disagree with them on politics.  I have lifelong friends who are typical leftist/socialists that I simply disagree with on about everything when it comes to politics, especially guns, healthcare, defense, environment, energy, education, etc., but we're still friends.
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What Ex-Pat community are you from? Is it Cuba? I doubt it because I doubt your vast knowledge of everything doesn't come close to it.








Cuban Ex-Pats and their children know the date that their families came over, the method, and why. My family came over on May 3rd 1961. I was born in the USA. But I know when we came here and why.








In the Cuban Community, that is major shit. Were you pre or post Mariel? Did you come over by Pedro Pan or Pan-Am? Are you Cubanaso or Balsero? What date did you come over? How close to Spanish Ancestry is your family?








Batista while a dictator wasn't Castro. Cubans didn't flee Cuba in record numbers and by any means necessary to get away from Batista. They did because of Castro.








Cubans in Cuba before the Revolution knew who Castro was and the shit he spewed. He wasn't an underground nobody. He was known nationwide.








You claim to be friends with open socialists in your ex-pat community. So I truly doubt you understand the dynamics of the Miami Cuban Culture and the current hatred towards the current influx of openly socialist Cubans coming in. Or the fact that families were split apart by that simple poltical belief and family members were excommunicated from families.








Come down to Little Havana and visit Versailles on Calle Ocho. Say the statements you're telling me there on the front steps of the most focal point of Cuban American Politics.






 
 
 







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My Visabuelo in the Policia National on my mother's side.




 
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Polls consistently show that Trump loses to Hillary in a head-to-head matchup.  He fares worse against her than any other candidate
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Really....Rubio/Kasich gonna beat Hillary?



They also said Trump and Cruz would be the easiest one for Hillary to beat



Polls consistently show that Trump loses to Hillary in a head-to-head matchup.  He fares worse against her than any other candidate



The rest of them are BEATING her.

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Sounds more like this.

"Drown me! Roast me! Hang me! Do whatever you please," said Brer Rabbit. "Only please, Brer Fox, please don't throw me into the briar patch."
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Remember, the POTUS is elected by the Electoral College.  The dems have most of the EC already in the bag, such as new york and california.  Rubio and Kasich would hand over Florida and Ohio to the republicans, making a victory somewhat tougher.

A lot of people don't realize this - it's ALL ABOUT the Electoral votes, has nothing at all to do with the popular vote.

This is how hitlery WILL win in November.

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Just like how Romney won Massachusetts by -23%
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Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.  

But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.
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Rubio is not as bad as Arfcom portrays.  I would much prefer Cruz, but Rubio would be a good president.


Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.
Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.  

But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.


Unlike all those truthful politicians.
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It's true -- Trump or Cruz would be the easiest candidates for the Democrats to beat. Their consultants are having wet dreams about that possibility.

Rubio would be the strongest Republican candidate in the general election. But even with Rubio, it would be uncomfortably close.

Don't be misled by listening only to the right-wing echo chamber. Even if every conservative, Tea Partier, libertarian, etc., turned out to vote for the Republicans, it still would not carry the presidential election. The numbers just aren't there (in the handful of swing states that will decide the election).

The only way the Republicans can win is to appeal to significant numbers of moderate, middle-of-the-road, and independent voters. Rubio maybe can do that. Trump or Cruz can't.

Edited to add: Sometimes I wish that the Republicans would run an extremist like Cruz, just to bury, once and for all, the myth of the "stay-at-home conservatives." But then I think of 8 years of Hillary, and I cringe. This country may be doomed.
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I know, right?      Every time we run a moderate we win big.     Like we did with Dole.      Oh, wait.....
Like we did with McCain.        Shit, that doesn't work either.....     Like we did with Romney.......     Well fuck.   When did that work again?
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LOL...


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It's a false flag.

The Democrats will NEVER lose against Democrat Lite.
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This.

Br'er Rabbit didn't want to be thrown in the Briar Patch neither.
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Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.  

But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.
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Rubio is not as bad as Arfcom portrays.  I would much prefer Cruz, but Rubio would be a good president.


Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.
Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.  

But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.


They are all liars.  Don't hold that against him.  Hold his immigration and the fact that he needs politics to bail him out of personal finance issues against him.
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Rubio is not as bad as Arfcom portrays.  I would much prefer Cruz, but Rubio would be a good president.




Indeed. The bizarre sudden Rubio hate is one of the reasons I've written off GD for all purposes other than comedy.

Since you don't live in Florida and in Miami and aren't Cuban. You won't understand why I hate him. I remember when he was a nobody... he was a liar then and he is a liar now.  



But take it from me. He is a liar. Been one his whole life.





They are all liars.  Don't hold that against him.  Hold his immigration and the fact that he needs politics to bail him out of personal finance issues against him.
Trust me... I know all about him. His thieving isn't knew nor is his open border policy either.

 
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Looks like Ted Cruz...
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The rest of them are BEATING her.

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Really....Rubio/Kasich gonna beat Hillary?



They also said Trump and Cruz would be the easiest one for Hillary to beat



Polls consistently show that Trump loses to Hillary in a head-to-head matchup.  He fares worse against her than any other candidate



The rest of them are BEATING her.




more of that war on wimminz
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My Visabuelo in the Policia National on my mother's side.

 






Looks like Ted Cruz...
Damn, you're right. Just noticed.

 
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Title should have been from the controlled media;





Globalists/controlled GOP/controlled Dems/controlled media most want a Rubio/Kasich ticket so they can win against America.





Trump/Cruz fucks up the Globalists dismantling of America and puts bad ideas in the heads of European countries not enjoying their planned cultural/racial genocide.





So they plant these stories thinking you are not stupid enough to see who they want you to chose in order to "win".

 
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"If you're not taking flack, you're not over the target."

Are Rubio or Kaisch(SP? as if I care) taking flack?

Then I'm not voting for them, and I don't believe anyone else on this board (with a few exceptions) will either.
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Trump/Cruz is a juggernaut
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With Rubio and oasich votoers won't see the contrast between Hillary and them on some issues

So then even if we win you get a rino
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Let me guess....




You think we are stupid.
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If Rubio wins, we still lose, so who gives a shit?
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  Yeah, because that strategy worked perfectly in the last 2 elections.


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The only way the Republicans can win is to appeal to significant numbers of moderate, middle-of-the-road, and independent voters. Rubio maybe can do that. Trump or Cruz can't.

  Yeah, because that strategy worked perfectly in the last 2 elections.


You guys really need to pull your heads out of your collective ass.


Our greek socialist has our best interests at heart.
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Hot or cold, no one wants piss warm.  A "moderate" that can't/wont defend their beliefs will never win.  A republican the can't differentiate his brand w/ a few one liners; will not beat "yo, free stuff".
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Fear what...winning the biggest landslide since Reagan beat Mondale like a rented mule against Rubio and Kasich?





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Where is Kasich from? He never said.
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RINO powers, activate!
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That's pretty much how it would go.  I don't think most of the base would turn out for either of those idiots.

I'm one of those guys that pretty much will vote for the guy just because -- if those two idiots get the nomination somehow I would be very tempted to just say let it burn and not even bother to vote.  Hell, I'd vote for Fiorina over either of them, and I think she's a fucking idiot.
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Marco Rubio is the presidential candidate equivalent of Paul Ryan.

He's bought and paid for like a back page hooker.
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I don't know who the Democrats *really* fear...

I can tell you this... It aint Trump.

Most of the stuff he is promising, including socialized medicine... They want.
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Reverse that for what they are REALLY afraid of.


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Democrats always try reverse psychology, as if it's some Jedi mind trick only a democrat can see.
No different that Putin endorsing Trump. He did so because Trump is the one he dreads most and it's a weak attempt to make Trump toxic.
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^^^^THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER^^^^

Democrats always try reverse psychology, as if it's some Jedi mind trick only a democrat can see.
No different that Putin endorsing Trump. He did so because Trump is the one he dreads most and it's a weak attempt to make Trump toxic.
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^^^^THIS IS THE CORRECT ANSWER^^^^

Democrats always try reverse psychology, as if it's some Jedi mind trick only a democrat can see.
No different that Putin endorsing Trump. He did so because Trump is the one he dreads most and it's a weak attempt to make Trump toxic.


You honestly think Putin dreads a president who says the reason he is more qualified than the other candidates is because nobody can make deals like he can?  

Putin probably can't wait for a Trump presidency so that they can "make some deals"
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I believe NOTHING coming out of the mouths of democrat hacks.
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Not to put too fine a point on it, Cruz is an extremist. His unconditional opposition to abortion, even in cases of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother, proves this. That issue alone would make him unelectable. (In the general election. It probably helps him in some of the primaries.) And harping on gay marriage is out of step with the times.

True, Cruz is good on guns. Probably the best of the candidates, on guns. And I personally am not affected by the abortion issue, so I wouldn't vote based on it. Nor am I a fan of gay marriage. I wouldn't mind Cruz as president. But, it's a moot point if he can't be elected. Nominating Cruz means conceding the election to Hillary. That would be a disaster. Wake up, people, and smell the coffee.

Cruz can easily take the nomination, and then lose the election. In fact, that's the most likely scenario for what will actually happen. It means 8 years of Hillary as president. Flush your gun rights down the toilet. This country is finished, due 100% to Republican stupidity.

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