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Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:45:12 AM EDT
[#1]
I'm so happy for this Christmas gift.

See what a bunch of gun enthuasists can accomplish. I hope they throw the book at him.

Tim
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:45:59 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:47:10 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:50:32 AM EDT
[#4]
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There is a lot of talk out there that this email is a hoax. Can anyone confirm this is real?


The one that was sent to our own OODA_Loop?
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:51:11 AM EDT
[#5]
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Has anybody done a FOIA requested to get the email from NBC on when they requested permission?  If we can get a date/time frame, then we will know if they did this knowingly against the law.


Send a FOIA request to the private sector? This thread is lost.


TK5..I'm not sure if you were serious?  You send the request to DC MPD and ask for any correspondence from NBC.  Those are public records.

I'm sure you were joking, because if not, your FUCKING LACKING INTELLIGENCE.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:51:48 AM EDT
[#6]
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devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this?  After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man


Dunno, depends on the District's laws. He should be arrested and tried as any normal man would.


Not only that, he's actively trying to destroy our collective gun rights. Fuck him.

I hope he gets the maximum penalty allowed under the law; we all know if it had been LaPierre waving the magazine around DC would already have a warrant out for his arrest.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:52:28 AM EDT
[#7]
Does David Gregory live in the District of Columbia?  If not, I expect MPD is waiting for him to show up to work so they can arrest him.   This is the only reason I see as to why he hasn't been processed yet.  We may have to wait for next weekend's show, unless he turns himself in.  It would be interesting if suddenly there were a guest host for next weekend.





We all MUST obey all the laws, therefore I fully expect David Gregory to "Meet the Consequences" - otherwise his audience buys his propaganda that there aren't enough gun laws, when in fact there are.  His audience NEEDS to know he broke a law, to inform them about his fallacies regarding gun laws.





A nutjob could have watched Gregory's show - and might do something tragic based on the inaction of MPD.  When actions have no consequences, bad things happen.





Just like that nut who just killed the firemen - he was released from prison after murdering his 92-year old grandmother.  Now, with 2 deceased firemen, they all come questioning "what could have been done?" - well, you could have done something rather than let that nut loose to hurt more people.  His previous actions had no consequences, therefore we have another tragedy.  Just like nobody will give Prince Harry's gun the credit for recently killing the Taliban leader, because it was in fact Prince Harry who killed him - don't ask us to blame a gun for what some nut job did with it in killing the firemen.  That crazy guy who shot the firemen was released from prison after murdering his grandmother with a HAMMER.  Did that hammer kill grandmom?  NO! - the crazy guy did. Did a gun kill the firemen? - Or, did the system... by releasing an obviously deranged killer back into the public?  Do guns stand trial and receive sentencing?  Do hammers stand trial and receive sentencing?  No - people who don't act lawfully do.





David Gregory did not act lawfully.  He must have consequences for his actions - or the laws mean nothing.




 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 9:54:51 AM EDT
[#8]
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It's a prima faciae case here . . . what's the problem?

Oh, my bad . . . he's a talking head for the other side . . .

DC Police Investigating NBC's Gregory for Brandishing Illegal Magazine


 


Here is their out
Yes, we are investigating the incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real."


Thy are looking for a training magazine to show the police.

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 10:04:19 AM EDT
[#9]
petition signed.....
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 10:06:31 AM EDT
[#10]
Quoted:
devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this?  After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man


absolutely he should be jailed.  He's the one pushing for these sorts of laws, let him live by them.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 10:07:38 AM EDT
[#11]
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Has anybody done a FOIA requested to get the email from NBC on when they requested permission?  If we can get a date/time frame, then we will know if they did this knowingly against the law.


Send a FOIA request to the private sector? This thread is lost.


TK5..I'm not sure if you were serious?  You send the request to DC MPD and ask for any correspondence from NBC.  Those are public records.

I'm sure you were joking, because if not, your FUCKING LACKING INTELLIGENCE.


Sweet irony.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 10:16:09 AM EDT
[#12]
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Has anybody done a FOIA requested to get the email from NBC on when they requested permission?  If we can get a date/time frame, then we will know if they did this knowingly against the law.


Send a FOIA request to the private sector? This thread is lost.


TK5..I'm not sure if you were serious?  You send the request to DC MPD and ask for any correspondence from NBC.  Those are public records.

I'm sure you were joking, because if not, your FUCKING LACKING INTELLIGENCE.


Sweet irony.


*you're*
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 11:20:03 AM EDT
[#13]
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There is a lot of talk out there that this email is a hoax. Can anyone confirm this is real?


The one that was sent to our own OODA_Loop?


The internet is full of conspiracy, when in reality it's tough to get three buddies to agree on the same night to get out for a beer.

From Breitbart:

Breitbart contacted the office of the police chief and asked if there were any plans to look into this apparent violation of the District's gun laws. In response, Chief Lanier replied, "Yes, we are investigating the incident to determine if the magazine was in fact real.

You can always create an e-mail account and e-mail them yourself.  You can get the same form letter back from MPD.  I don't think Gregory lives in DC.  I don't think he'll be arrested, but I'd love to see this make, if not the NYTimes, at least the WSJ, and deflate the antis a bit.  

There are some mainstream journalists who are class acts; while Chris Wallace would be an obvious choice, Charlie Rose is able to interview people he clearly dislikes and remain professional about it.  Gregory was the stereotype of the left-wing reporter conducting a biased interview with all the vitriol and "outrage" that he could muster.  I guess that is how it feels when 'progress' is on your side.

Edit: btw, I've let my membership lapse.  I think I'll renew/pay for 2013 ;)
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 11:30:10 AM EDT
[#14]
Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW


Link Posted: 12/25/2012 11:43:13 AM EDT
[#15]
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Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW




fucking outstanding!!!

CNN now:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/25/washington-d-c-police-investigating-whether-nbc-moderator-violated-law/
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:02:31 PM EDT
[#16]
Love it.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:03:19 PM EDT
[#17]





i just posted this in the comments:



"do non-gun owners/anti-gun people realize that it takes 2 seconds to
change a magazine? so in an environment like Newtown, where no one is
going to confront the shooter and he can just take his time, whether a
magazine has 10 rounds or 30 rounds makes ZERO difference..."



 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:09:48 PM EDT
[#18]
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Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW




I would laugh my ass off if that law is struck down.

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:10:59 PM EDT
[#19]
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It'll get bumped up to the Police Chief, since it involves a member of the media, who will ask the Mayor what to do, who will ask Eleanor Holmes Norton what to do (she's the non-voting DC representative of the House), who will ask her master Mr Obama what he wants done about it.  Being as the TV reporter sends his kids to the same school as the President does, and is in the same social circles, it's a fair bet IMHO that this will be quashed pronto.  Nothing will come of it - after all the elitists are NOT subject to the same laws as we the peons.

We'll all wail and gnash our teeth, and the game of some animals are more equal than others will continue on it's merry way.




EXACTLY.
Just like how Fast and Furious would materialize into something, just like how 0bama-care would be repealed, just like how 0bama would lose the election.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:18:13 PM EDT
[#20]
The firearm owner community is watching - all 50 million of us.  Actually it's more like 60 million as of this week.
Let's see what kind of lie they pull out of the hat - and let's see if they can keep every intern, every cameraman, and that person who supplied the mag... let's see if they can keep everyone's mouth shut and tell a monstrously huge lie - and not get caught doing that too.
I certainly hope the head of the NRA didn't happen to see that mag - and NBC try to lie their way out of this.
Without taking responsibility for the obvious, they leave themselves open to making it 100 times worse with a cover up, and any cover up can only work if they get LE's total cooperation.
 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 12:45:49 PM EDT
[#22]
I wonder if Sharyl Attkisson is interested in this. Couldn't find an e-mail for her.............




 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 1:43:31 PM EDT
[#24]
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Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW




I just shed a tear.

Praying for justice.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 2:07:19 PM EDT
[#25]
Whoever had the email response from the police stating that it was premeditated (he asked them for one to do the story and they said no) send it to Breitbart please.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 2:19:55 PM EDT
[#26]
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i just posted this in the comments:

"do non-gun owners/anti-gun people realize that it takes 2 seconds to change a magazine? so in an environment like Newtown, where no one is going to confront the shooter and he can just take his time, whether a magazine has 10 rounds or 30 rounds makes ZERO difference..."
 



Some of those replies makes my brain bleed. Hypocrites and apologists as far as the eye can see. One of the more mind-bending...

mitchell

The DC police should be concentrating on real crime not looking at someone who clearly was just using the clip for news reporting only.and would not be a threat to anyone
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 2:48:34 PM EDT
[#27]
If the law is on the books, it should be enforced.



If enforcing it is wrong, it should be repealled.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 2:59:14 PM EDT
[#28]
I love how many people have said that he didn't mean any harm with the magazine. I don't mean any harm with my firearms and yet they still want to take them away. Talk about hypocrites!
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 4:40:14 PM EDT
[#29]



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i just posted this in the comments:



"do non-gun owners/anti-gun people realize that it takes 2 seconds to change a magazine? so in an environment like Newtown, where no one is going to confront the shooter and he can just take his time, whether a magazine has 10 rounds or 30 rounds makes ZERO difference..."

 


dont change the focus of the narrative.



Keep the narrative on how completely ineffective magazine bans are.

Remind them of prohibition, illegal drugs, and How the assault weapons ban did nothing to stop columbine.
 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 4:46:45 PM EDT
[#30]
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dont change the focus of the narrative.

Keep the narrative on how completely ineffective magazine bans are.
Remind them of prohibition, illegal drugs, and How the assault weapons ban did nothing to stop columbine.


 



"A magazine ban so ineffective that any idiot can get them.." Cut to picture of DG holding the mag.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 4:47:20 PM EDT
[#31]
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Has anybody done a FOIA requested to get the email from NBC on when they requested permission?  If we can get a date/time frame, then we will know if they did this knowingly against the law.


Send a FOIA request to the private sector? This thread is lost.

would not the PD fall under FOIA ?
 
i was under the impression that FOIA applied to federal government

 


Guess who owns Washington D.C.....

Link Posted: 12/25/2012 4:49:57 PM EDT
[#32]
"Brandishing a Magazine"

I would have NEVER thought i would hear something like that.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 4:56:27 PM EDT
[#33]
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"Brandishing a Magazine"

I would have NEVER thought i would hear something like that.


Assault magazine.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:02:57 PM EDT
[#34]
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Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW




LOL

Genius.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:05:33 PM EDT
[#35]
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:10:57 PM EDT
[#36]
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Has he been arrested yet?


I think they're still "looking into it" while he scrambles to find a rubberduck to show he didn't really brandish a standard capacity magazine.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:13:34 PM EDT
[#37]





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Has he been arrested yet?






I think they're still "looking into it" while he scrambles to find a rubberduck to show he didn't really brandish a standard capacity magazine.

 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:20:11 PM EDT
[#38]



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Has anybody done a FOIA requested to get the email from NBC on when they requested permission?  If we can get a date/time frame, then we will know if they did this knowingly against the law.




Send a FOIA request to the private sector? This thread is lost.


would not the PD fall under FOIA ?

 
i was under the impression that FOIA applied to federal government



 




Guess who owns Washington D.C.....





I just figured metro pd would be considered a municipal force and not a federal entity. But I could be completely wrong, it's happened once before.



 
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 5:22:27 PM EDT
[#39]
Quoted:
update:

E-mail response:

"From:  "DC Police (imailagent)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Email from DC Police (Intranet Quorum IMA00519327)
Date: December 24, 2012 4:13:12 PM EST
To:  (OODA_Loop)


The Metropolitan Police Department is in receipt of your e-mail regarding David Gregory segment on "Meet the Press." MPD has received numerous e-mails informing us of the segment.  NBC contacted MPD inquiring if they could utilize a high capacity magazine for their segment.  NBC was informed that possession of a high capacity magazines is not permissible and their request was denied.  This matter is currently being investigated.   Thank you for taking the time to bring this matter to our attention.

Customer Service - Metropolitan  Police Department"


good job, no one, no one is above the law!

btw does DC law has grandfather clause? how about if he has a mag that's made 20 years ago?
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:22:37 PM EDT
[#40]
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Twitter user offers to defend NBC’s David Gregory on 2nd Amendment grounds
http://twitchy.com/2012/12/25/twitter-user-offers-to-defend-nbcs-david-gregory-on-2nd-amendment-grounds/


In fact, @davidgregory, I am admitted in DC. I would be happy to represent you in a challenge to DC's gun laws breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

Twitter user and lawyer Aaron Walker has graciously offered to defend NBC’s David Gregory, who is now under investigation by Washington DC police for brandishing a high-capacity magazine on Meet the Press yesterday.

Walker (whose Twitter handle is @AaronWorthing) says that Gregory’s lawyer should argue that the DC assault weapon ban violates the Second Amendment of the US Constitution:

This is your chance, @davidgregory! You can help get DC's assault weapon ban declared unconstitutional! breitbart.com/Big-Journalism…

So, @davidgregory, do you think DC's ban on assault weapons works? Cause it didn't stop you breitbart.com/Big-Journalism… #NoWayNRA #GUNCONTROLNOW




fucking outstanding!!!

CNN now:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/12/25/washington-d-c-police-investigating-whether-nbc-moderator-violated-law/


I wanted to leave a comment but after 81 they are turned off
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:34:09 PM EDT
[#41]
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Has he been arrested yet?


I think they're still "looking into it" while he scrambles to find a rubberduck to show he didn't really brandish a standard capacity magazine.


Maybe they're waiting for the epoxy that they filled the magazine with to dry

I'll be (pleasantly) shocked if this goes anywhere...
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 6:45:53 PM EDT
[#42]
I remember back in 1989 on that CBS program "48 Hours" hosted by Dan Rather, they did an hour show just prior to President Bush signing the import ban. Anyway, one of their reporters had taken a Type 56 AK to a "Gunsmith" where it showed him working on it, and made it into a full auto. Scenes of this rifle firing opened the hour long segment. I don't think anything ever happened to the guy who did the conversion. The reporter said it took him "15 minutes" from being a semi-auto to a full automatic.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:01:42 PM EDT
[#43]
Bullets are the projectile part held by a cartridge. I buy bullets all the time to assemble in to loaded rounds of ammunition.

Quoted:
He didn't break the law - it holds bullets, not cartridges.


Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:07:50 PM EDT
[#44]
Quoted:
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i just posted this in the comments:

"do non-gun owners/anti-gun people realize that it takes 2 seconds to change a magazine? so in an environment like Newtown, where no one is going to confront the shooter and he can just take his time, whether a magazine has 10 rounds or 30 rounds makes ZERO difference..."
 



Some of those replies makes my brain bleed. Hypocrites and apologists as far as the eye can see. One of the more mind-bending...

mitchell

The DC police should be concentrating on real crime not looking at someone who clearly was just using the clip for news reporting only.and would not be a threat to anyone

Marion Barry wasn't hurting anyone with the hookers and blow either AFAIK - they should've let him off too as he obviously wasn't a threat to anyone. In fact, he was helping to keep his hoes and his dealer gainfully employed; doesn't that deserve at least a public service award? Maybe they can get Gregory to present it.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:09:25 PM EDT
[#45]
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Has he been arrested yet?


I think they're still "looking into it" while he scrambles to find a rubberduck to show he didn't really brandish a standard capacity magazine.


That show was broadcast in HD all around the world, and a firearms "expert" was on the set. It will be a tough sell that the head of the NRA doesn't know an AR mag when he sees one and their are tons of stills backing him up.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:16:24 PM EDT
[#46]
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i just posted this in the comments:

"do non-gun owners/anti-gun people realize that it takes 2 seconds to change a magazine? so in an environment like Newtown, where no one is going to confront the shooter and he can just take his time, whether a magazine has 10 rounds or 30 rounds makes ZERO difference..."
 

Some of those replies makes my brain bleed. Hypocrites and apologists as far as the eye can see. One of the more mind-bending...

mitchell

The DC police should be concentrating on real crime not looking at someone who clearly was just using the clip for news reporting only.and would not be a threat to anyone


Yeah, because that's how laws work.  What a moran.  Maybe a newscaster could hold up a 1 kilo brick of cocaine as a news prop.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:17:48 PM EDT
[#47]
Cathy Lanier
Chief of Police
300 Indiana Avenue NW
Room 5059, Washington , DC 20001

Email:[email protected]

Phone: (202) 727-9099

Fax: (202) 727-4106
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:20:36 PM EDT
[#48]
It will be determined that it was a "prop" for purposes of discussion, and nothing will come of it. WL will not say a word about it, and the whole thing will go away.
Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:37:45 PM EDT
[#49]



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It will be determined that it was a "prop" for purposes of discussion, and nothing will come of it. WL will not say a word about it, and the whole thing will go away.


Of course that's the way it will go, but can't we have some fun first?

 





Link Posted: 12/25/2012 7:42:52 PM EDT
[#50]
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devil's advocate

This is a non-violent crime even if a felony.

Should David lose his gun and voting rights over this?  After all if he's free to live in our society he should have all the same rights as any other free man


absolutely he should be jailed.  He's the one pushing for these sorts of laws, let him live by them.


This.

What makes him above the law? What, he wants more laws for everyone except for himself?

There's a word for that...
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