Quoted: <snip>most of you are those overweight, racist, redneck, hillbilly, hee-haw watching, smelly, BDU-wearing, storytelling jerkoffs seen at every gunshow with nothing better to do than brag about your gun collections and tell your made up stories because there is nothing more impressive about your lonely lives. <snip>

Wow dude! You took too many "angry pills" this morning. Calm down have a drink and catch your breath. I've been a member of this site for over 4 years and I am proud to call many of its members my friends.

I fought a war once under Bush Sr. and I'm not going to bullshit you, I would have rather stayed home to chase pussy and drink beer, but I made a decision to voluntarily join our Armed forces. At 19 I can’t honestly say I really knew why I was being sent there except that a big country was picking on its little neighbor (which kind of pissed me off). As I was heading there and almost certain I would die far from home for people I didn’t know hardly anything about, I wasn’t really crazy about the idea, but I knew this… We have it pretty good in this country, and if my blood was the price to pay for all that my family had and I was given up until that point… fair enough (maybe I’m just stupid)… Well them I got there and actually saw what Iraq did to Kuwait and all doubt was gone. I knew I was there as the sword of Justice. My only regret was that they made me stop! We had more work to do; the evil was not yet cleaned away…

Fast-forward 2 years… Clinton is president…the Army is being gutted with “Force Reductions”… I’ve just got off active duty and I’ve been working 14-hour days in a Tool & Die shop. Work and Sleep, but my car was acting up. So I’m sitting in a “Grease-n-Go” and I see on the TV a little black kid dragging something in DCU’s…. It’s one of our Soldiers… Maybe someone I’ve met while in the Army. This is where I found out about the Rangers. I’m so enraged my hands are shaking and I’m gritting my teeth so hard it’s making an audible noise. A soccer mom sitting in the waiting room is so scared of the sight that is me unraveling she moves between me and her brood out of some primal instinct. I get out of there and go straight home and call My Reserve Plt Sgt. I figure something this obscene, will get us to “Light the fires and kick the tires”. He’s so mad he can hardly speak and tells me he’ll let me know… Well we do NOTHING…we actually tuck tail and run! A bunch of savages just slightly better then desert nomads with spears…run us off… The shame and hate for my “Commander and Chief” builds.  Over ½ of the guys I still speak with on active duty do not re-enlist (especially the NCO’s and Officers).

Fast-forward 10 years… I’m sitting on the couch watching the travel channel talk about the art of French cheese making putting on my boots (always a slow process as I have a bad knee from my Army days). The wife is getting her shit together for work (we only had one car at the time and I was going to have her drop me at work) and my cell phone rings. It’s a member of this site calls me and asks, “Are you watching TV!” I say yes, I didn’t know how cheese was made until now”… he yells at me “WTF! They hit the WTC! DUDE Its WAR!”…I grab the wife and the dog and we head to the shop… The “Boys” are all there and there loading mags and linking belts… They ask me “What now?” and “What will the US do?”. I am so used to use being “bitches” that I tell them we will most likely shoot some Cruse missiles at someone and talk some hard talk and that will be it and that will give the “rags” the green light to pull more shit with us… We are all very Angry/Sad/Depressed/Scared…. Well do you know what happened? A Fucking miracle… Colin Powel stood there on TV and said that he what just left the President and that we were going to hunt down the people who did this and it would be a long war and that we would bleed in the process, but that we would prevail and we would get then no matter how long it took… I cried like a little girl…a huge weight was lifted off of me. This wasn’t pretty, but it was what needed doing. THE PRESIDENT ACTUALLY NOT ONLY KNEW WHAT WAS NEEDED, BUT SAID IT WOULD BE DONE! NO MATTER HOW UNPOPULAR!

I started paying close attention to Bush after that. This is a guy who goes to Texas to chop wood on his Ranch on his “down time”…This is a guy who promises a soldier who got his feet blown off that when he gets better he would be honored to go running with him…and then a year later when the guy was ready…They went for that run!.. Maybe it’s all “bullshit”…but I tell you this Brother…It’s my kind of bullshit and come November I’m going to vote for GW Bush. I keep sending boxes of free parts out to soldiers heading to Iraq and Afghanistan and when I get letters from them and meet them when they’re back home… Do you know whom these guys who were “tricked into a war for oil” say they are going to vote for? That’s right…BUSH! Like me, they are ok with bleeding for this country, they aren’t stupid, and they know anything worth having is worth paying for. When they get hurt and their buddies get killed, we don’t roll up camp and slink home in shame. WE GET TO WORK!

Quoted: and not to derail this thread but i love how poor jay is made to be a by stating his own opinions, and hes warned to be nice to others or he's liable to get B7'd, yet if you read this thred through you'd see some people AREN'T being so nice to him and respecting his opinions. so i guess if youre liberal youre a , and if youre not youre a hero. gg.

Please read the post above by Garryowen--you have your heroes, I have mine.  No one official has sanctioned your hero.  

God bless my hero, and those like him.  

Quoted: i am sorry if i am deemed a troll, a child with no guns, a kerry supporter...etc. i just thought the original posts about rock being on a washed-up has beens show were kind of weird. better to be a has been than a never was. it seems to me the bigger of the two losers is the one listening to the other loser. and then to run home and post about it, like a small child running home to tattle to mommy. i also really thought the racist remarks about rock were out of line. tizzun? go back to eating spaghetti you greasy wop. i may get banned for this and if i do it would really suck. i like this board for its great wealth of info. i just have a problem with bush, that is all. how bout i start a thread bashing kerry? bet most of you would post having my back and not complain about my ranting and trolling. seems as long as you bitch along with the masses, you are golden on this board. -jay

This does it for you--not only you show extreme stupidity, but you don't learn--you were warned about personal attacks and name calling.  Goodbye.

Quoted: originaly posted by driftpunch --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FDR killed 400,000, the biggest Mass Murder in US history... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- actually hitler did with 6 million + jews not to be a smart a$$ just thought I would point that out

Psssst--Hitler wasn't an American.