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Link Posted: 7/31/2022 3:08:08 PM EDT
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If they don't their pussies
Link Posted: 7/31/2022 3:11:30 PM EDT
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I just really don’t want any of our flight crew hurt. Those people are important.
Link Posted: 7/31/2022 3:24:33 PM EDT
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Nancy bows to the Chinese: House Speaker Pelosi begins Asia tour with NO mention of Taiwan on her itinerary after Beijing threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the island democracy


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not have any apparent plans to visit the island democracy of Taiwan after Chinese diplomats threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the self-ruled island under Chinese occupation.

In a press release on Sunday, her office said she would visit four Asian countries   but Taiwan was not on the list.

'Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leading a Congressional delegation to the Indo-Pacific region, including visits to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan,' the press release read.

It specified that the visit would include those countries, but did not specify whether Pelosi   who is number three in the line of presidential succession   might make other stops.

'The trip will focus on mutual security, economic partnership and democratic governance in the Indo-Pacific region,' it said.

'In Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan, our delegation will hold high-level meetings to discuss how we can further advance our shared interests and values, including peace and security, economic growth and trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, the climate crisis, human rights and democratic governance.'

She is said to be arriving in Singapore first on Monday, where she will spend two days. according to the country's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

But her trip has been met with much scrutiny by Chinese officials, who have warned that Washington would 'bear all the consequences' if Pelosi did visit Taiwan and have threatened to take 'resolute and forceful measures' against the US if the trip goes ahead.


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Well that's it. We backed down. China owns Taiwan. They can invade now and nothing will be done.
Link Posted: 7/31/2022 3:31:51 PM EDT
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Well that's it. We backed down. China owns Taiwan. They can invade now and nothing will be done.
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Nancy bows to the Chinese: House Speaker Pelosi begins Asia tour with NO mention of Taiwan on her itinerary after Beijing threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the island democracy


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not have any apparent plans to visit the island democracy of Taiwan after Chinese diplomats threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the self-ruled island under Chinese occupation.

In a press release on Sunday, her office said she would visit four Asian countries   but Taiwan was not on the list.

'Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leading a Congressional delegation to the Indo-Pacific region, including visits to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan,' the press release read.

It specified that the visit would include those countries, but did not specify whether Pelosi   who is number three in the line of presidential succession   might make other stops.

'The trip will focus on mutual security, economic partnership and democratic governance in the Indo-Pacific region,' it said.

'In Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan, our delegation will hold high-level meetings to discuss how we can further advance our shared interests and values, including peace and security, economic growth and trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, the climate crisis, human rights and democratic governance.'

She is said to be arriving in Singapore first on Monday, where she will spend two days. according to the country's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

But her trip has been met with much scrutiny by Chinese officials, who have warned that Washington would 'bear all the consequences' if Pelosi did visit Taiwan and have threatened to take 'resolute and forceful measures' against the US if the trip goes ahead.


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Well that's it. We backed down. China owns Taiwan. They can invade now and nothing will be done.

I’m pretty sure they knew that, but needed this to make it official.
Link Posted: 7/31/2022 3:40:38 PM EDT
[#5]
To paraphrase Gordon Gekko, "Not sure how I feel... kinda like Larry Wildman driving over a cliff, in my new Maserati."
Link Posted: 7/31/2022 6:19:54 PM EDT
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Nancy bows to the Chinese: House Speaker Pelosi begins Asia tour with NO mention of Taiwan on her itinerary after Beijing threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the island democracy


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not have any apparent plans to visit the island democracy of Taiwan after Chinese diplomats threatened 'unbearable consequences' if she visited the self-ruled island under Chinese occupation.

In a press release on Sunday, her office said she would visit four Asian countries   but Taiwan was not on the list.

'Speaker Nancy Pelosi is leading a Congressional delegation to the Indo-Pacific region, including visits to Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan,' the press release read.

It specified that the visit would include those countries, but did not specify whether Pelosi   who is number three in the line of presidential succession   might make other stops.

'The trip will focus on mutual security, economic partnership and democratic governance in the Indo-Pacific region,' it said.

'In Singapore, Malaysia, South Korea and Japan, our delegation will hold high-level meetings to discuss how we can further advance our shared interests and values, including peace and security, economic growth and trade, the COVID-19 pandemic, the climate crisis, human rights and democratic governance.'

She is said to be arriving in Singapore first on Monday, where she will spend two days. according to the country's Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

But her trip has been met with much scrutiny by Chinese officials, who have warned that Washington would 'bear all the consequences' if Pelosi did visit Taiwan and have threatened to take 'resolute and forceful measures' against the US if the trip goes ahead.


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Well that's it. We backed down. China owns Taiwan. They can invade now and nothing will be done.



After China opened thier mouth she should of made a point to go" inwasnt planning on it but will now" would of been a huge fuck you to them.  



Don't get me wrong I despise her with a passion but she could of earned some serious respect in choosing to go after they told her not too.  Letting them have even the slightest hint of authority into US diplomacy is weakness of the highest level.  

Link Posted: 7/31/2022 6:27:04 PM EDT
[#7]
I support her trip to Taiwan
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 7:23:04 AM EDT
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That escalated quickly.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 7:25:39 AM EDT
[#10]
Its happening
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 7:27:21 AM EDT
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I knew that we would back down and she would not go........Face it boys and girls, China is the next world premier super power and they practically own us and have every member in Congress in their pockets.......and they didnt have to fire one shot to do it...............Our country is over I think we just need to begin to start accepting this reality.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 7:49:46 AM EDT
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I knew that we would back down and she would not go........Face it boys and girls, China is the next world premier super power and they practically own us and have every member in Congress in their pockets.......and they didnt have to fire one shot to do it...............Our country is over I think we just need to begin to start accepting this reality.
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Yep... but we deserve this. Most women support Walmart and most men support Harbor Freight. Cheap shitty products that are disposable and contain traces of toxic compounds. "Muh $3 screwdrivers and $129 generators!!..."

Our elected "leaders" failed to protect this country when the Chinese started buying and stealing everything in sight..... much like they are actively failing to protect this country right now at the border. The Chinese have stolen our intellectual property, poisoned us, infected us, and purchased us.

Illegals are pouring over the border every day... carrying Mexican flags, drugs, small pox, and "dreams" of free shit without even having to learn our language, much less comply with our laws. They have no car insurance, no medical insurance, use hospital ERs as their primary care providers, cause over-crowding in schools, and live 8 - 14 people in the same house. All subsidized at taxpayer expense.

This is the new reality.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:00:54 AM EDT
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Yep... but we deserve this. Most women support Walmart and most men support Harbor Freight. Cheap shitty products that are disposable and contain traces of toxic compounds. "Muh $3 screwdrivers and $129 generators!!..."

Our elected "leaders" failed to protect this country when the Chinese started buying and stealing everything in sight..... much like they are actively failing to protect this country right now at the border. The Chinese have stolen our intellectual property, poisoned us, infected us, and purchased us.

Illegals are pouring over the border every day... carrying Mexican flags, drugs, small pox, and "dreams" of free shit without even having to learn our language, much less comply with our laws. They have no car insurance, no medical insurance, use hospital ERs as their primary care providers, cause over-crowding in schools, and live 8 - 14 people in the same house. All subsidized at taxpayer expense.

This is the new reality.
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AGREED----110%-------    GREED IS WHAT DESTROYED US and China knew where our weakness was and honed in on it.  But looking at history, wasnt that Romes problem too?
                                                                                        Pride goeth before destruction and destruction before a fall.  

And no I dont buy at Walmart  (But I have when I absolutely had to) --- nor have I ever been in a Harbor Freight store.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:09:12 AM EDT
[#14]
She will sneak in



By boat.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:11:11 AM EDT
[#15]
China is full of shit.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:12:59 AM EDT
[#16]
oh please oh please oh please
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:38:14 AM EDT
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They should say they are sending her there on a plane and have it be empty.   Call their bluff.

Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:54:31 AM EDT
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I mean I hate Pelosi but we would still have to glass their asses,totally an·ni·hi·late
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 8:54:52 AM EDT
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AGREED----110%-------    GREED IS WHAT DESTROYED US and China knew where our weakness was and honed in on it.  But looking at history, wasnt that Romes problem too?
                                                                                        Pride goeth before destruction and destruction before a fall.  

And no I dont buy at Walmart  (But I have when I absolutely had to) --- nor have I ever been in a Harbor Freight store.
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Yep... but we deserve this. Most women support Walmart and most men support Harbor Freight. Cheap shitty products that are disposable and contain traces of toxic compounds. "Muh $3 screwdrivers and $129 generators!!..."

Our elected "leaders" failed to protect this country when the Chinese started buying and stealing everything in sight..... much like they are actively failing to protect this country right now at the border. The Chinese have stolen our intellectual property, poisoned us, infected us, and purchased us.

Illegals are pouring over the border every day... carrying Mexican flags, drugs, small pox, and "dreams" of free shit without even having to learn our language, much less comply with our laws. They have no car insurance, no medical insurance, use hospital ERs as their primary care providers, cause over-crowding in schools, and live 8 - 14 people in the same house. All subsidized at taxpayer expense.

This is the new reality.




AGREED----110%-------    GREED IS WHAT DESTROYED US and China knew where our weakness was and honed in on it.  But looking at history, wasnt that Romes problem too?
                                                                                        Pride goeth before destruction and destruction before a fall.  

And no I dont buy at Walmart  (But I have when I absolutely had to) --- nor have I ever been in a Harbor Freight store.


We need about 50,000,000 more people like you!

It's becoming almost impossible to NOT buy anything made in China these days..... I was recently looking to buy some new place settings, and was surprised to find out there is exactly ONE flatware manufacturer left in the USA... Liberty Tabletop. Needless to say, I gladly gave them my business. Yes, I paid more for their product, but I felt good knowing my $$ was going to help an American company instead of our ideological enemy.

"I have principles, but I'm not going to let them get in the way of [making a buck / saving money]." is the unofficial American motto.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:00:00 AM EDT
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If Nancy's plane has fighter escorts, I'd love to see what Chicom is going to send up against our boys.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:03:40 AM EDT
[#21]
Did she get to Taiwan yet, or is she taking a layover in Hawaii or Guam to look over her family’s pineapple plantations where they pay the workers less than min wage?
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:07:20 AM EDT
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Her big tits might cause Guam to flip over.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:11:23 AM EDT
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I'm having to wipe off my screen now........thanks........
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:17:05 AM EDT
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So what would happen if some US pilots, not commanded but out of the kindness of their own hearts, decided to escort Pelosi's plane to Taiwan?
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:28:17 AM EDT
[#25]
They don't have the balls to do it.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:33:27 AM EDT
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probably the chengdu j-20 if they send aircraft up.
its hard to know its full capabilities and we even built mock ups of it to attempt to test its stealth (you can see one on google earth at an air base on the east coast)




Against an F-18 it has an advantage
fairly even fight with an F-35
F-22 would beat it

provided you have pilots with fairly equal skill levels.

It's important not to take for granted the possible targeting computers and the technology of a J-20. Don't forget how much of the worlds electronics are made in China.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:36:34 AM EDT
[#27]
This admin will back down and not go.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:39:05 AM EDT
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The S&P 500 seems to think trouble is inbound. Look at the dramatic change in futures earlier when CNN reported Pelosi would go.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:49:40 AM EDT
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Better send AOC to balance out the island.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:52:20 AM EDT
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IMO, then Taiwan was lost without a shot being fired.

Wall St. fucked around and the US found out.

The silence on this issue given its global impact is deafening.

DC establishment folks must be busy.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 9:58:11 AM EDT
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Pelosi expected to visit Taiwan, Taiwanese and US officials say


(CNN)US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is expected to visit Taiwan as part of her tour of Asia, according to a senior Taiwanese government official and a US official, despite warnings from Biden administration officials, who are worried about China's response to such a high-profile visit.

The stop -- the first for a US House speaker in 25 years -- is not currently on Pelosi's public itinerary and comes at a time when US-China relations are already at a low point.
The Taiwanese official added that she is expected to stay in Taiwan overnight. It is unclear when exactly Pelosi will land in Taipei.

The US official added that Defense Department officials are working around the clock on monitoring any Chinese movements in the region and securing a plan to keep her safe.

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Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:01:34 AM EDT
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Bloomberg: Pelosi to land in Taiwan Tuesday night local time.

Yeah, I'll be buying gas today.

So much for depleting the strategic oil reserve.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:02:45 AM EDT
[#33]
I can't believe I'm actually rooting for Nancy fucking Pelosi.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:08:19 AM EDT
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Why is she going to Taiwan?   Did she run out of shit to screw up in America?
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:11:53 AM EDT
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How do you know that's not already what's happening?
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:13:52 AM EDT
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LMFAO
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:14:05 AM EDT
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How do you know that's not already what's happening?
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How do you know that's not already what's happening?


Wouldn't matter to China.

A claimed visit is enough to cause China to lose face.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:19:51 AM EDT
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Will Pelosi tested positive for Covid later today?

Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:25:02 AM EDT
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Right!?
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:33:16 AM EDT
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Because the Chicoms told the US where their government officials were allowed to go.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:37:32 AM EDT
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(CNN)US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is expected to visit Taiwan as part of her tour of Asia, according to a senior Taiwanese government official and a US official, despite warnings from Biden administration officials, who are worried about China's response to such a high-profile visit.

The stop -- the first for a US House speaker in 25 years -- is not currently on Pelosi's public itinerary and comes at a time when US-China relations are already at a low point.
The Taiwanese official added that she is expected to stay in Taiwan overnight. It is unclear when exactly Pelosi will land in Taipei.

The US official added that Defense Department officials are working around the clock on monitoring any Chinese movements in the region and securing a plan to keep her safe.

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so now the only question is, "will the US also send our fighter escorts along with her jet?"
i doubt it since as BAU that kind of thing never happens for someone as lowly as a senator in peacetime; her visiting Taiwan is plenty enough to punk those bitchass chicoms such that they lose plenty of face.
But.. be a lot cooler if they did
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This seems likely.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 10:44:39 AM EDT
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A cur dog ate Nancy's homework.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:03:03 AM EDT
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Get ready taiwan, pelosi is coming
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:15:53 AM EDT
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this stirkes me as momentous.

There is no "saving face" for the Chinese if her plane flies toward Taiwan and they do not intercept it.  They drew their red line and she crossed it--starkly reversing the American diplomatic posture of strategic ambiguity.

Interesting days.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:18:27 AM EDT
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Maybe I'm wrong, but this stirkes me as momentous.

There is no "saving face" for the Chinese if her plane flies toward Taiwan and they do not intercept it.  They drew their red line and she crossed it--starkly reversing the American diplomatic posture of strategic ambiguity.

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We are so strung out and have done so many epically stupid things since Xiden took office it seems like a setup.
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:22:36 AM EDT
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One might think that's the idea behind this trip
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:25:06 AM EDT
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One might think that's the idea behind this trip


Do you think the Chinese are in on the political theatre (hard to imagine they would be--can Xi afford to be publicly embarrassed?)--or is she risking an International Incident to improve Dem prestige/prospects in the fall?
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Do you think the Chinese are in on the political theatre (hard to imagine they would be--can Xi afford to be publicly embarrassed?)--or is she risking an International Incident to improve Dem prestige/prospects in the fall?
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One might think that's the idea behind this trip


Do you think the Chinese are in on the political theatre (hard to imagine they would be--can Xi afford to be publicly embarrassed?)--or is she risking an International Incident to improve Dem prestige/prospects in the fall?


No, nothing as conspiratorial as China being in on it. I just think there's plenty of wiggle room in China's statement that she can go and have a big "historic moment" without actually "crossing the red line"
Link Posted: 8/1/2022 11:30:04 AM EDT
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Why on earth does she NEED to go to Taiwan that bad?
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