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Posted: 5/4/2015 2:43:00 PM EDT

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Not a 1911 fan but I'll buy one, fuck yeah.

Posted: 5/4/2015 2:43:52 PM EDT

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Love to find a nice $500 Singer.

I'm guessing CMP would probably toss those in an auction and get a little more than that, though.

Posted: 5/4/2015 2:45:59 PM EDT

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I don't even like 1911s and I'd be in for at least one to be used strictly when shooting 3-gun with my CMP Garand.

Posted: 5/4/2015 4:55:04 PM EDT

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Posted: 5/4/2015 5:04:13 PM EDT

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I would love to see this happen, but I am not holding my breath. FBHO and HRC..

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:20:41 PM EDT

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I don't even like 1911s and I'd be in for at least one to be used strictly when shooting 3-gun with my CMP Garand.

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Holy shit. If I got one of these CMP WWII 1911s to go with my M1 Garand, I'd be left with no choice but to get a WWII era shotty and show up next to the gear queer 3-Gun guys at a match wearing surplus canvas clip holders for the garand, a web belt holding my 1911 mag pouches, and a canteen pouch for my shotgun shells.

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Posted: 5/4/2015 5:22:02 PM EDT

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Yeah, my interest would be tempered by condition and price, too.

I WOULD pay 500+, for an excellent condition example.

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How much are we talking here...$200-300, yes. $500+, no.

Yeah, my interest would be tempered by condition and price, too.

I WOULD pay 500+, for an excellent condition example.

500?

Thats wishful thinking there, the CMP is not going to sell these for cheap IF this ever happens. I would pay 1k without blinking for a service grade Colt.

The chances of this happening are about as good as the CMP selling M14 rifles.

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:28:01 PM EDT

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500?

Thats wishful thinking there, the CMP is not going to sell these for cheap IF this ever happens. I would pay 1k without blinking for a service grade Colt.

The chances of this happening are about as good as the CMP selling M14 rifles.

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How much are we talking here...$200-300, yes. $500+, no.

Yeah, my interest would be tempered by condition and price, too.

I WOULD pay 500+, for an excellent condition example.

500?

Thats wishful thinking there, the CMP is not going to sell these for cheap IF this ever happens. I would pay 1k without blinking for a service grade Colt.

The chances of this happening are about as good as the CMP selling M14 rifles.

You made my mouth water.

I have a very close to correct Winchester M1 Carbine that I got for pocket change years ago, not from CMP.

Anyone remember what the Carbines were selling for from them?

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:30:32 PM EDT

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There's been talk of this for years. I'm guessing it'll never happen.

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:31:27 PM EDT

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A correct Colt from WWII will start around $2k if you can find one......here is a correct 1943 from my collection that I lucky enough to find

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:32:40 PM EDT

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Would be nice if they were similar to the prices they used to charge. Even with inflation, were talking ~$125. :)

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:39:01 PM EDT

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Would be nice if they were similar to the prices they used to charge. Even with inflation, were talking ~$125. :)

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My Dad tells tales of the golden age of CMP. He bought his first rifle from the program when he was a kid. He was about 12 and they sold him a 1903 Springfield for $6.

Posted: 5/4/2015 5:57:06 PM EDT

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Friend of mine was a MP. He said there was a warehouse on the base he was on that had 55 gal drums full of 1911 parts. He said they were suppose to be destroyed but never were. He always wondered what happened to them.

Posted: 5/4/2015 6:52:21 PM EDT

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How much are we talking here...$200-300, yes. $500+, no.

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LOL

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:05:34 PM EDT

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I have a very close to correct Winchester M1 Carbine that I got for pocket change years ago, not from CMP.

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Mine was about $650. Some were going about $450 IIRC.

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:06:24 PM EDT

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The chances of this happening are about as good as the CMP selling M14 rifles.

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Eh, no.

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:14:00 PM EDT

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Holy shit. If I got one of these CMP WWII 1911s to go with my M1 Garand, I'd be left with no choice but to get a WWII era shotty and show up next to the gear queer 3-Gun guys at a match wearing surplus canvas clip holders for the garand, a web belt holding my 1911 mag pouches, and a canteen pouch for my shotgun shells.

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_11_2012/post-100672-0-33103400-1354139256.jpg
http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/1912728/9619668/668d3671b006e29e512f2935e71d0e2c.jpg

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I don't even like 1911s and I'd be in for at least one to be used strictly when shooting 3-gun with my CMP Garand.

Holy shit. If I got one of these CMP WWII 1911s to go with my M1 Garand, I'd be left with no choice but to get a WWII era shotty and show up next to the gear queer 3-Gun guys at a match wearing surplus canvas clip holders for the garand, a web belt holding my 1911 mag pouches, and a canteen pouch for my shotgun shells.

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_11_2012/post-100672-0-33103400-1354139256.jpg
http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/1912728/9619668/668d3671b006e29e512f2935e71d0e2c.jpg

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"Canvas clip holders" like the Belt, Dismounted, Cartridge, M1923 that you have in the pic? The one made of cotton webbing in Olive Drab #3, not canvas?
It's a damn cartridge belt. Was a standard type of US military equipment from the 1870s until the 1950s. Not a "clip holder."

Also, why use a canteen cover for shotgun shells? How about just getting a shotgun shell pouch...

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:16:00 PM EDT

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would they qualify for C&R or not?

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Who cares? CMP isn't bound by C&R rules.

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:22:04 PM EDT

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And a 1909 S vdb cent is just another penny that spends the same way.

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CMP really has a great thing going on the M1, and I took advantage of the low price and great selection.

On these 1911's, I don't think they will be anywhere near a price I can afford.

Why not?

These are probably barely service grade weapons. Even if they are "New Old Stock" they are standard GI grade pistols.

Other than some nostalgia and old school US machining, these aren't that much different than the RIA's.

If they were so great why would there be entire industries around making them better?

And a 1909 S vdb cent is just another penny that spends the same way.

Were there 3 million 1909 S vdb cents? And are they making infinitely better 1909 S vdb cents today?

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:24:15 PM EDT

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There were 3.5 million M1 Garands made. Not all survived the war or returned to the US, but the CMP has sold many, with more flooding the shelves as they are assembled.
There were 2.7 million M1911 A1s made, but only 108,000 or so making it to CMP, maybe.
This is the going rate for some of the more authentic US 1911's existing.
CMP has never really gone nuts with their prices, but I'm just curious as to what they would charge..

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CMP really has a great thing going on the M1, and I took advantage of the low price and great selection.

On these 1911's, I don't think they will be anywhere near a price I can afford.

Why not?

These are probably barely service grade weapons. Even if they are "New Old Stock" they are standard GI grade pistols.

Other than some nostalgia and old school US machining, these aren't that much different than the RIA's.

If they were so great why would there be entire industries around making them better?

There were 3.5 million M1 Garands made. Not all survived the war or returned to the US, but the CMP has sold many, with more flooding the shelves as they are assembled.
There were 2.7 million M1911 A1s made, but only 108,000 or so making it to CMP, maybe.
This is the going rate for some of the more authentic US 1911's existing.
CMP has never really gone nuts with their prices, but I'm just curious as to what they would charge..

That is the going rate for those 1911's before a large quantity is dropped on the market.

Posted: 5/4/2015 7:33:36 PM EDT

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That is the going rate for those 1911's before a large quantity is dropped on the market.

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CMP really has a great thing going on the M1, and I took advantage of the low price and great selection.

On these 1911's, I don't think they will be anywhere near a price I can afford.

Why not?

These are probably barely service grade weapons. Even if they are "New Old Stock" they are standard GI grade pistols.

Other than some nostalgia and old school US machining, these aren't that much different than the RIA's.

If they were so great why would there be entire industries around making them better?

There were 3.5 million M1 Garands made. Not all survived the war or returned to the US, but the CMP has sold many, with more flooding the shelves as they are assembled.
There were 2.7 million M1911 A1s made, but only 108,000 or so making it to CMP, maybe.
This is the going rate for some of the more authentic US 1911's existing.
CMP has never really gone nuts with their prices, but I'm just curious as to what they would charge..

That is the going rate for those 1911's before a large quantity is dropped on the market.

I don't really think you understand the value of a USGI 1911 pistol.
Sure, new Rock Islands could be had for $500, but you won't see one of these go for that.
If you can't understand the historical value and collect-ability of an authentic USGI 1911, well, there is nothing that will convince you of their value.