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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:44:35 PM EDT
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How many times have I read posts from our brethren in the military saying "I don't agree with what (insert idiotic peace activist's name here) said but I will defend - to the death - their right to say it" I may never have served but I aspire to have that level of compassion. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:45:17 PM EDT
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 .This is Tom cleaning up Fallujah. All he needed was a "Kidnap and murder me" sign on his back 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:45:17 PM EDT
[#3]
You have me all wrong on this one. I am pissed they killed an American , PERIOD. I have no direct sympathy for the person in question , especially after I read why he was over there. I take offense that they believed they were killing an American to hurt us, you don't actually believe they thought they were doing us a favor do you? Their motives in killing him are why i would like to do the same to them ten fold. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:46:08 PM EDT
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Damned shame for his family. When I went to Iraq, I went heavily armed, in large groups and riding in armored vehicles. He was just suicidal.
He may be one of ours, but he's not one of mine. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:47:10 PM EDT
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*Heh*...You and me against the world. There are just some people in this world that i'm ok with seeing dead. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:48:25 PM EDT
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Yeah, but there is a big difference between defending his rights, and giving a shit if his stupidity got him killed. Would you have much sympathy for a full functioning, otherwise intelligent adult who wanders into the bear cage, and gets killed by the bears if his reasoning is "I want to be their friends they will understand and treat me well"? Same instance here. Only the bears were muslims.... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:53:03 PM EDT
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1st off....Can I just say I'm sorry? Temper gets away with me somtimes. I get the "One of us" thing...i subscribe to it..most times. I'll call "Peace" here....I don't like argueing with americans either. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:54:00 PM EDT
[#8]
Then party on with your hatred.
Cheers. 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 5:56:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Party on with you peacenick love then, I guess....Since you want to leave a parting shot. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:00:15 PM EDT
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Well, just out of curiousity for the guy (and girls if any) who might be saying "but he was still an American"
Is there a point where that doesn't matter, and where is that point for you. Is Jihad Johnny, John Walker Lindh AOK with you, even though he was FIGHTING with al queda elements in Afghanistan? Afterall, he IS an American? Serious question, is there a line where you would say "fuck him (or her) they got what they deserved" How about Rachael Corrie? She was an American too... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:01:08 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:01:52 PM EDT
[#12]
I welcome you to join us over here. There is plenty of work for all interested. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:02:10 PM EDT
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Jihad Johnny was an American....I guess I should feel sad. I'd like to feel sad, but, I can't. I wan't to feel sad for a guy that was killing Americans......Even though he was "One of us" |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:02:26 PM EDT
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As time goes on her at ARFCOM you see who is really who. Still wish we had an ignore button here.
I hope God has mercy on Tom Fox's soul. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:03:19 PM EDT
[#15]
You're a "last word" kinda guy aren't you? Call me a Peacenik...  Edit: I'm a WARNIK! 
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:04:46 PM EDT
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While I was in Iraq part of my job was to make sure people received training that would keep them alive when they went out. He was text book of what not to do, just as most of the people that were kidnapped were doing something outside of security protocol.
He brought this upon himself. Just a surely if a woman went walking in the back alleys of SW D.C. on a Friday night and she got raped..... He may have believed he was doing something good, (which I, also being a Christian, would disagree with) but he went about it in way that would get himself killed. From what my friends back in Iraq tell me he and his group activlly worked against us while they were alive. So in my book he was a traitor to our country. While it's not good that he died in this way he will not be doing things that get our guys killed anymore. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:06:32 PM EDT
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Waging war against your country and serving in the forces of our enemy is another matter entirely. I can repect pacifists who are not cowards even if I disagree with them. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:09:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Good on you then!  (last word) |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:09:59 PM EDT
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Well, assuming what this man has to say is true (and I see no reason not to believe him) there you go...the guy was a POS... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:10:28 PM EDT
[#20]
If he actively worked against us then he got his traitors death. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:10:54 PM EDT
[#21]
"Pacifist" is just another word for "Scumbag". |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:11:08 PM EDT
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Shoulda had a Red Cross on his chest adn a rifle with lots of magazines then....... No real sympathy for some hippy being schooled on the real world (reminds me of Bulldozer girl in many ways) |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:12:51 PM EDT
[#23]
What I'd said from the begining. But.....i was intolerant on PG1. I'm all of a sudden more relevent on PG 3 |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:13:08 PM EDT
[#24]
Well, there you go...you do have a line. It appears that your line and my line are just at different places. How about Rachael Corrie...she was not waging war against her own country, but she certainly was active for people who hate us. She was pictured snarling like an animal and burning our flag...which side of the line is she on? Again, not trying to stir shit, just curious to see where people stand in regards to this issue... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:13:52 PM EDT
[#25]
Ever hear the parable about the scorpion and the frog?
What did this guy think was going to happen roaming the streets of Iraq unarmed like he was a native when even being a native buys you zero safety? "Hi mister insurgent, I'm mister unarmed American. Can we be friends? Notice how I placidly rake your rubble for you." I hate seeing any innocent get killed but if you jump in the viper nest don't cry about getting the fangs. Now, let's go wipe out the vipers before someone else gets the same treatment. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:14:17 PM EDT
[#26]
Most so-called pacifists are cowards, but some believe enough in what they stand for that it is still honorable even if overly simplistic or misguided. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:19:43 PM EDT
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Not totally familiar with her situation. I do believe that defending this clown's right to not agree with me is worth fighting for lest the day come I cannot speak for my values. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:20:26 PM EDT
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I definately like Citizen Soldier. He's definately one squared away individual. He seems to truely understand what America is about and what his role in it is. I applaud you sir and thank god there are men like you to defend her.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:20:31 PM EDT
[#29]
i went to Bethany Christian High School. If you don't know, it, resarch it. I know all about pacifists. I have no respect for them. I have no respect for any man that would stand withut threat of violence. Pacifists.........Ok..Unless you have lived in a mennonite community..you have no idea. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:20:37 PM EDT
[#30]
You are quite correct. There were many pacifists in WWII, who still answered the call, but would only serve as medics or litter bearers, etc. These I will respect. But those pacifist ilk who are out there bad mouthing our military, the same one our great grandfathers, grandfathers, fathers (and mothers) and I served in, and all the men and women who serve today, going in harms way, VOLUNTEERING to go into harms way...those types, I'll piss on their graves. And this guy appears to have been the latter.... |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:22:42 PM EDT
[#31]
Thank you. Just trying to get me and my unit through this next year in one piece. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:24:15 PM EDT
[#32]
Had a little contact growing up in southern Kansas. It is still their right to be wrong in your opinion as it is mine and yours. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:25:13 PM EDT
[#33]
The man was in Iraq trying to do some good. He was there under his own volition and he knew the risks. There was very little if any the US govt could've helped him. I'm sure that Uncle Sam did all he could considering the limited amount of leverage he has with the moslem extremists. Here is one fellow that actually "put his money where is mouth was," of couse he paid a real high price for his beliefs.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:27:16 PM EDT
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I tossed in disclaimers for my opinion because I have a bad habit of opening my piehole and stepping on my proverbial dick. As a newbie I don't want to make myself unwelcomed for being too forward. That having been said...this is where I stand: I know that every tree hugging fuckstick that tries to "do good" over there is an abduction waiting to happen. If they had been killed for being tree hugging fucksticks, good riddens...my beef is that johnny jihad using them to illustrate false power by "killing Americans". If they came out in videos and said "This is what we do to Peace Activists", more power to them, I'd load the mag...they don't, they just show that they can kill Americans. That's all. Above all, it doesn't matter worth a damn if I agree with one word in the thread, I would lay down my life-sincerely- for everyone's right to every word they post. I'm not noble..the 1st ammendment allows me to put food on my table; the 2nd, to protect it. No one has to agree, that doesn't mean anyone 'sucks'. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:27:20 PM EDT
[#35]
I have met a few of the type you mention. They are men and women of conscience and courage. I still will defend the rights of ones who I disagree with. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:28:04 PM EDT
[#36]
Again, I am not abdicating his right to not agree with me, and I have and would again defend everyones right to do so. I also said I hate those who did this, and would like to see them found and killed, and strung up. I just won't shed a tear over this individual. I HAVE shed many a tear since 9/11, for those who deserved it, and for those serving beside their Brothers who have been killed. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:28:17 PM EDT
[#37]
And i don't give a damn for him. An opponant of liberty has met his fate. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:29:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Even though I may disagree with his beliefs, it puts him miles ahead of those who speak but never act on their convictions. I find it hard past a certain point to speak ill of the dead. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:30:10 PM EDT
[#39]
I think he got what he disserved, he is paying for his ignorance, I'm not pleased that he was killed, but I think he is a victim of his own negligence.
Believing in something, does not necessarily make it the real... "welcome to the real world" |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:31:28 PM EDT
[#40]
I'd challenge anyone to come up with names. there have been a few in my ranks.....i was a medic....There were a few very brave medics that served their country as pasifiscts. There is a PROFOUND difference between these men and, the modern peace movement. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:32:55 PM EDT
[#41]
Cool.....I list him as "Traitor" |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:34:18 PM EDT
[#42]
I think anyone who goes over there and doesn't see that what we're doing is nothing other than helping people is an asshole.
That said, I wouldn't wish that kind of death on my worst enemy. I think the the final punctuation mark to this poor soul's life only serves to underscore the fact that the "people" we're up against are animals. Not all so-called humans are created equal. The kind of shitbags that killed this guy must be crushed, its the only kind of pacification they understand. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:34:52 PM EDT
[#43]
if he's one of those peace freaks or reporters... GOOD, they just make us look like shit over here anyway.
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:35:45 PM EDT
[#44]
You gotta fuckin' be kidding.. He is an AMERICAN! His being a "peace freak" does NOT change that. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:36:06 PM EDT
[#45]
We are working on it. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:36:44 PM EDT
[#46]
Nice sentiments, you've reached an all time low. What can I say, Bon Appitite.. |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:37:58 PM EDT
[#47]
He was still an American and he is from my home town.
Bomber |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:38:00 PM EDT
[#48]
*heh* does for me. Read back. He's not an American AFAIK |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:39:20 PM EDT
[#49]
Yup, I just got back in December myself, 340 days in Sadr City....Godspeed to you and your guys! |
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Posted: 3/10/2006 6:39:29 PM EDT
[#50]
Super duper! An agent of our enemy is from your town and you mourn his death. Thanks! |
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