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Posted: 2/21/2021 1:39:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:23:47 AM EDT
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I like the looks of this one:
 Attached FileWould make for a good guest house / airbnb. https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/ |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:29:51 AM EDT
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That would work nicely as a work shop. A total pain in the ass tho if anything ever dents the outer walls.
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:34:40 AM EDT
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There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less
The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it  Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:      (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:35:15 AM EDT
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Built ours in 2014. Mueller steel building with spray foam. Zero issues in cold last week. Have wood stove that will sweat you out if not in 40's outside. Very efficient.
We did stained concrete throughout house, so it's easy to clean and we are happy with that still. Ours has 12 foot wrap our porches, so it looks like a regular house mainly, but with sheet metal siding. I love going in the attic in summer and it's like 80 degrees, cant say enough about spray foam. Budget 30-50k for well, septic and utilities if not already on site. ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:35:32 AM EDT
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We get flyers in the mail all the time for some Barndominium community up near DFW somewhere, they must be desperate to sell by mailing out stuff to what appears to be the entire state of Texas.
Might be worth taking a look at floorplans to steal ideas from. Free bump |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:41:21 AM EDT
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Barn appreciation tag. I don't live in mine, but the idea is interesting.
I'd be concerned about exhaust and chemical fumes if there was nothing to seperate the shop and living areas. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:44:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 10:53:21 AM EDT
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We’ve built two. Will be doing a 3rd one in next year or two. Anything specific you want to know?
Eta... if you’re building the house you’ll live in forever, build steel frame. It’s more expensive, but also significantly stronger structurally. |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 1:05:33 PM EDT
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We just finished our 30x50x12 3 roll ups and 2 walk through on a concrete foundation with rough plumbing DWV. Red iron, welded- $31.5k. We will be adding windows ourselves and making a small apartment in the front 30x15.
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Posted: 2/21/2021 11:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Built ours in 2014. Mueller steel building with spray foam. Zero issues in cold last week. Have wood stove that will sweat you out if not in 40's outside. Very efficient. We did stained concrete throughout house, so it's easy to clean and we are happy with that still. Ours has 12 foot wrap our porches, so it looks like a regular house mainly, but with sheet metal siding. I love going in the attic in summer and it's like 80 degrees, cant say enough about spray foam. Budget 30-50k for well, septic and utilities if not already on site. ETA- our house is red iron with steel beams, not tubing like above. Pics? |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 11:08:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) Excellent info, thank you! |
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Posted: 2/21/2021 11:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’ve built two. Will be doing a 3rd one in next year or two. Anything specific you want to know? Eta... if you’re building the house you’ll live in forever, build steel frame. It’s more expensive, but also significantly stronger structurally. Nothing specific, just looking for ideas and if its something I can live in long term. Its just me, and I have no problem living in something like this as long as I can find the right piece of land. Do you have pics? |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:12:10 AM EDT
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You can make them as nice or as basic as you want. The only thing that would keep you from living in it long term, is you f do not like the idea of metal siding.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:20:59 AM EDT
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I thought this thread would be about what plants crave.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:21:58 AM EDT
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Buddy is getting ready to build one now.
Said it’s going to be $75-80 per sq foot finished. Thats a red iron frame, concrete (no flooring) and basic amenities. That price doesn’t include grading. Think he also said that the going stick built home in the area is going around $175 per sq foot. So big savings. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 9:23:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buddy is getting ready to build one now. Said it’s going to be $75-80 per sq foot finished. Thats a red iron frame, concrete (no flooring) and basic amenities. That price doesn’t include grading. Think he also said that the going stick built home in the area is going around $175 per sq foot. So big savings. That sounds right. I’d you build w iron, you still have to frame interior walls completely. So the only real savings is the exterior. Metal vs brick, rock, ect. Interior will be exactly the same as stick built. If you want granite counters, they’ll cost exactly the same as they would otherwise. If you go post frame, it a pretty significant savings. The majority of the exterior walls are already there. Usually built as free span, with trusses, you can frame interior as you see fit . None of the walls are load bearing, so no 2x12 headers doubled up, ect. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:58:00 AM EDT
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Are these a viable option up north?
Quoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) ??????????/?????????? Quoted: Barn appreciation tag. I don't live in mine, but the idea is interesting. I'd be concerned about exhaust and chemical fumes if there was nothing to seperate the shop and living areas. That's a great question. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 4:10:30 PM EDT
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Most folk frame out house inside of the shop, so two seperate areas. Don’t have to, I slept next to my tractor for a year, but I don’t keep chlorine gas inside....
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Posted: 2/22/2021 4:28:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the looks of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Barndominium_-_Ozark_Metal_Buildings_jpg-1834822.JPG Would make for a good guest house / airbnb. https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/ A good friend of mine once told me he's looking for a shop with an attached house. I'll have to send this thread to him. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:49:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium:  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached Filethanks for the info and great insight |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here)  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 8:57:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) I like it! |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 10:04:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thanks for the info and great insight Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg thanks for the info and great insight Banks are Fing retarded when it comes to this. It’s cool to get a 750k loan on your 12/hr job, but a house with metal siding on some property outside town limits....... find a land bank. Capital farm credit, ect. I don’t know what’s available in states outside TX, but I’m sure there’s plenty. The process will be exactly the same as building a brick and mortar. Plans, interim financing ect. It really ain’t that difficult. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 10:08:49 PM EDT
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Texas is full already. Sorry.
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:22:45 PM EDT
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This thread is pertinent to my interest.
Been thinking a barndo on 20+ acres would be a nice retirement home. Good info on steel beams. My concern is concrete costs for foundation as I want a large shop on one side and "house" on the other. Sort of like a modern take on the old dog run homes. |
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201123_102509-1736608.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210108_152436-1779368.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210113_143619-1779373.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201101_162450-1674994.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20201107_095742-1682273.jpg (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) Dude, you win. 
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Posted: 2/22/2021 11:49:35 PM EDT
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We call them "Shrouses" around here
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Posted: 2/23/2021 8:46:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most folk frame out house inside of the shop, so two seperate areas. Don’t have to, I slept next to my tractor for a year, but I don’t keep chlorine gas inside.... You got any pics? |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 8:48:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Texas is full already. Sorry. I beg to differ, and you're going to need some votes to change your state back to Red, its currently purple. But I get it though, you like your state. Its come down between Florida and Texas for me, based on taxes, freedom and a few other variables. Where do you live in Texas so that I can avoid that County? 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 8:54:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There isn't much difference between a barndo and a house if you think about it. One has a steel shell and the other is brick, or siding or whatever. Once you frame up the inside it's all the same more or less The problem I ran into in Texas was that banks seem to consider them manufactured homes and everything from insurance to interest rates were higher, if they wanted to touch it at all. I ended up building a hobominium instead with just enough amenities to live in (shower, fridge, washer/dryer, hot water and sink) so that it would still be considered a garage or shop if I ever sell the place. Maybe later I'll build a house house next door, but after dealing with the banks and discussing appraised values for a fresh built barndo it seemed very risky In my area houses are about $150/sqft appraised, and my hobominium is 1500 sqft with my all-in price to live here counting the land work, well, septic, electric, concrete, insulation AC, interior work, appliances, shooting berms and roads is about 140k which puts me at about $90 per sqft. As much as I love it, I doubt few wives would tolerate it though because it's missing a lot of the high end amenities...laminate floors, marble countertops, no proper kitchen or master bath and it has no bedrooms. If I were going to finish it out completely on the interior I think I'd easily be in the $150/sqft range like my neighbors, so that's something to think about IAs unfinished as it is, it's definitely a man cave or adult treehouse but I love it Meanwhile, I'm really happy in my hobominium: (I just posted this in another thread but it bears repeating here) Awesome... |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:16:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You got any pics? No but can take one. Anything specific you want to see? |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:18:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No but can take one. Anything specific you want to see? Nah, maybe just a few to get some ideas. I'm pretty dead set on doing this and living like @TX-Zen in a hobominium on rural land with StarLink. Might even buy a Raptor next year too! |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:24:44 AM EDT
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The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house.
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:32:30 AM EDT
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OP, we are looking to sort of duplicate this one. If some stars align we'll start building on the farm later this year. I'm still trying to make sure I understand the processes/pitfalls as well.
https://youtu.be/m4dKspMgQl4 Good info in this thread. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:34:55 AM EDT
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Here’s ours
Purchased last year on 13 acres already “finished”......  Attached File40x60 pole building 1/2 house-1/2 barn Mini splits Electric appliances Some random pics  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 9:36:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house. Bingo! I want what would essentially appear to be a large garage on rural land. Inside would be a loft and a single bathroom, and plenty of room to park my truck inside. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 10:33:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The whole trick is to make it look like a barn so the tax appraisal stays low. If you make it look like a house, you might as well build a house. A roll up door will cost 300$. Put 2 on there no matter what. Remove tracks on inside if you don’t want to actually use them. When it comes up, and it will, you tell them it’s a 1800 ft garage, w 200 ft finished space. In TX they can’t come inside unless you let them . Taxes should be about $10/month.... This is what a friend of mine did, I wouldn’t personally ever deny the king his rightful money |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are these a viable option up north? Mine has 4 large doors and even with 2 inches of closed cell on the sides and 4 on the roof it gets fairly cold. I have two 24,000 BTU mini splits but even during our snowpocalypse below at 15 degrees they could keep the interior at 60f. When we lost power and it was 15f outside the inside stayed about 45, except one morning where it was 35 inside. As soon as the sun came up it hit 45 and stayed there though. Anytime it's around freezing or warmer I can get by on just 1 of the two units though which is nice and if it's in the high 30s I can actually get too hot if I run both units at full power My place is yuuuuuge as far as HVAC conditions though and it has no interior paneling to protect from the outside. Add in 16 foot walls and the surface area of 1500 sqft, plus the 4 large doors and it's definitely a challenge. I knew it going into it and it doesn't bother me cold wise, but if I were in a consistently colder climate I'd for sure finish the inside to add the extra level of insulation. If you go with a smaller building obviously it will be easier to insulate, but the roll up doors are for sure a big hit to efficiency Summer temps haven't hit yet but last fall I was able to run both 24k units on AC and kept it at 72 inside on an 85 degree day outside which was fine. I bet I'd die if it hits triple digits though, especially now that I have a loft because it's about 5 degrees warmer up there than the floor. To be safe I bought a couple more 24k units and will have them installed in the next few weeks. They are dirt cheap so even with 4 I am still way ahead of a fullsize house unit |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:27:42 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing specific, just looking for ideas and if its something I can live in long term. Its just me, and I have no problem living in something like this as long as I can find the right piece of land. Do you have pics?  It's definitely cost me more to make it livable than my buddy who is building a place up by Tmm1270. The soil up there is pretty sandy and there are plenty of small elevation changes that help with drainage, but where I'm at it's black gumbo mud, flat as a board and there isn't anywhere for water to go That cost me roughtly 10k in caliche rock to build a driveway, and another 9 or 10k to dig deep enough to get to clay and use that clay to build up the pad for the hobominium. I think I'm close to 35k for landwork easy, and while some of that is for the shooting berms and clearing trees, a lot of that was a consequence of the gumbo and how you have to work with it The further you build from a main road the further from power you are, and that costs you money too. Add in another 15 to 20k for well and septic These are a few things to keep in mind when you are looking for land |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:28:51 PM EDT
[#41]
You need a really understanding woman to live with you unless you make it less spartan inside.
Ask me how I know |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:31:13 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You need a really understanding woman to live with you unless you make it less spartan inside. Ask me how I know  That's why I have another 3000 sqft of space next to the hobominium, so that if I decide to make an offer to the current potential Mrs Zen I already have room to build a house 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's ours Purchased last year on 13 acres already "finished"...... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/469047/CC09C3DB-9435-4B01-A3E9-A86FF55BD753_jpe-1837844.JPG 40x60 pole building 1/2 house-1/2 barn Mini splits Electric appliances Some random pics https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/469047/4EFA70BF-3AD6-4F94-B75E-951BCB7B3AAA_jpe-1837845.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/469047/A0BE5963-1AC3-4578-8745-B7D566549F0D_jpe-1837846.JPGhttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/469047/D739BAF5-2D23-48C5-8A31-3D28C148660F_jpe-1837847.JPG |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:33:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For sure That's why I have another 3000 sqft of space next to the hobominium, so that if I decide to make an offer to the current potential Mrs Zen I already have room to build a house A wise man
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:37:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like the looks of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/41568/Barndominium_-_Ozark_Metal_Buildings_jpg-1834822.JPG Would make for a good guest house / airbnb. https://ozarkmetalbuildings.com/ I actually like that quite a bit... but I'm sort of a hick.. 
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look carefully at your land choices, and make sure you can see them in the rain...I love my place but I bought a fucking swamp https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/73202/20210120_095622-1807559.jpg It's definitely cost me more to make it livable than my buddy who is building a place up by Tmm1270. The soil up there is pretty sandy and there are plenty of small elevation changes that help with drainage, but where I'm at it's black gumbo mud, flat as a board and there isn't anywhere for water to go That cost me roughtly 10k in caliche rock to build a driveway, and another 9 or 10k to dig deep enough to get to clay and use that clay to build up the pad for the hobominium. I think I'm close to 35k for landwork easy, and while some of that is for the shooting berms and clearing trees, a lot of that was a consequence of the gumbo and how you have to work with it The further you build from a main road the further from power you are, and that costs you money too. Add in another 15 to 20k for well and septic These are a few things to keep in mind when you are looking for land Holy shit, that mud! Yea I have more research to do. I'll be down in September for a few weeks to hunt, eat BBQ, and then explore a little. Until then its mainly Zillow and LandWatch. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 5:57:27 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bingo! I want what would essentially appear to be a large garage on rural land. Inside would be a loft and a single bathroom, and plenty of room to park my truck inside. I would approach the bank with a shop loan with an office and bathroom. You can add a kitchen etc with cash after the loan closes. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 6:00:50 PM EDT
[#48]
Look for banks that specialize in "farm and ranch" type loans. They're generally more flexible in how the finance buildings, etc.
Following with interest. |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 6:11:57 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryEric is good people. He’s big into precision shooting, and is a better shooter than I ever will be |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 6:29:38 PM EDT
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