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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:23:25 PM EDT
Watching now on The History Channel.
Crossroads (S1, Ep5) It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources.  |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:25:25 PM EDT
[#1]
Why don't you own the blu-ray?
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:26:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Still one of my favorites of all time.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:27:21 PM EDT
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Quoted: It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources. One could argue that statement describes war in general. Great series, one of the very few things that made HBO not suck. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:29:02 PM EDT
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They did what they had to do for their time. Now is your time...can you do as much?
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:31:41 PM EDT
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Things would be much worse for the entire world had those brave men and women not sacrificed for us.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:34:22 PM EDT
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The assault on the MG-40 in this episode once again shows how good a tactician Dick Winters was.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:34:51 PM EDT
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Single best miniseries of all time. I really need to upgrade my DVD set to Blu-ray in case I ever cancel HBO.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The assault on the MG-40 in this episode once again shows how good a tactician Dick Winters was. Pretty sure that was an MG-42. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:37:30 PM EDT
[#9]
The long retreat
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:37:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: One could argue that statement describes war in general. Great series, one of the very few things that made HBO not suck. Watch their 2019 series Chernobyl. They even accidentally throw some pot shots at Communism. Plus it's darn compelling TV. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:39:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Watching now on The History Channel. Crossroads (S1, Ep5) It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources. Yeah; looks like we should have concentrated *everything* into Japan first, then attacked the Soviets from the East and let the Nazis and Soviets chew on each other a ton before eliminating them both. We also should have given McCarthy a LOT more credibility and resources. Hindsight, and all... |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:40:37 PM EDT
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I have the DVD boxed set. Maybe time to get the Blu-ray.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:40:58 PM EDT
[#13]
Good series...
Great uncle (101st) died at Bastogne to a mortar. My grandfather (Navy on an LST) was able to see him a few weeks prior to D-Day. When he witnessed the horrors of D-day he knew they’d never meet again.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:41:00 PM EDT
[#14]
Greatest thing ever filmed.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:42:29 PM EDT
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I've over a dozen book on the 101 in WW 2. Guy Whidden is still alive and you can get his autographed book. He jumped in Normandy and Holland where he was injured and became an instructor after that.
He wa a machine gunner and it was in his book that I read about the issue of the M-1Carbine folder being a PoS (OK, he didn't say that, he said that it folded on him when shooting). At Normandy he forgot the password (and couldn't find the clicker) and started speaking in English. "I'm from xxxxxx and graduated from XYZ highschool!"). As an instructor, he had a lieutenant who decided not to do the log exercise (Pick up log, raise above head, lower to opposite shoulder, repeat). The lieutenant objected stating he as an officer and would not take orders from an enlisted man (it was all paratrooper trainees that included enlisted, non-coms and commissioned). Guy explained that while the officer was correct, he (Guy) was in command and that the lieutenant had to comply. The Lt. refused. Guy then pointed out that his buddies had to carry the weight he wouldn't carry and that was poor form for a teammate. The Lt refused. A more senior commissioned officer raised his hand asking for permission to speak. Guy consented and the more senior officer pointed out that Guy was correct. Then the captain in command came around and said, "Sergeant, is there a problem?" Anyway, the captain took the reluctant lieutenant out of the group and got him discharged. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:44:08 PM EDT
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Members here are jacking it to AOC's tits.
This is bullshit. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 8:59:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: Watching now on The History Channel. Crossroads (S1, Ep5) It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources. You'll understand when you get to the episode called, "Why We Fight." |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:04:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll understand when you get to the episode called, "Why We Fight." Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Watching now on The History Channel. Crossroads (S1, Ep5) It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources. You'll understand when you get to the episode called, "Why We Fight." |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:05:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You'll understand when you get to the episode called, "Why We Fight." That's not Mozart That's Beethoven |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:07:20 PM EDT
[#20]
He came back.
 BAND OF BROTHERS - Lieutenant Speirs' run through the enemy lines (HD) |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:07:30 PM EDT
[#21]
The Western Allies should have kept the Eastern Front going as long as possible.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:13:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Things would be much worse for the entire world had those brave men and women not sacrificed for us. Yeah, thank God it prevented the rise of Soviet and Chinese communist superpowers. And Europe loves us too. We sure are lucky. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:48:39 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've over a dozen book on the 101 in WW 2. Guy Whidden is still alive and you can get his autographed book. He jumped in Normandy and Holland where he was injured and became an instructor after that. He wa a machine gunner and it was in his book that I read about the issue of the M-1Carbine folder being a PoS (OK, he didn't say that, he said that it folded on him when shooting). At Normandy he forgot the password (and couldn't find the clicker) and started speaking in English. "I'm from xxxxxx and graduated from XYZ highschool!"). As an instructor, he had a lieutenant who decided not to do the log exercise (Pick up log, raise above head, lower to opposite shoulder, repeat). The lieutenant objected stating he as an officer and would not take orders from an enlisted man (it was all paratrooper trainees that included enlisted, non-coms and commissioned). Guy explained that while the officer was correct, he (Guy) was in command and that the lieutenant had to comply. The Lt. refused. Guy then pointed out that his buddies had to carry the weight he wouldn't carry and that was poor form for a teammate. The Lt refused. A more senior commissioned officer raised his hand asking for permission to speak. Guy consented and the more senior officer pointed out that Guy was correct. Then the captain in command came around and said, "Sergeant, is there a problem?" Anyway, the captain took the reluctant lieutenant out of the group and got him discharged. That's great, that's classic. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 9:52:20 PM EDT
[#24]
Wow can't believe it's been twenty years since it came out....
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Posted: 1/23/2021 10:06:21 PM EDT
[#25]
"Why We Fight"
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Posted: 1/23/2021 10:21:23 PM EDT
[#26]
Great series, I have the metal box set. Lots of good bonus features. I need to get the blueray set as well.
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, thank God it prevented the rise of Soviet and Chinese communist superpowers. And Europe loves us too. We sure are lucky. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Things would be much worse for the entire world had those brave men and women not sacrificed for us. Yeah, thank God it prevented the rise of Soviet and Chinese communist superpowers. And Europe loves us too. We sure are lucky. Seriously? Nazi-ism and Japanese imperialism were defeated in WWII. They were the major threats at that time. Nixon's visit to Red China in '73 is what put the Chicoms on the road to being a superpower. You should do a little bit of homework before you start spouting off about stuff. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:17:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It was a waste of effort considering that we now have a Totalitarian regime in control now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Watching now on The History Channel. Crossroads (S1, Ep5) It seems now that this was all a waste of lives and resources. You'll understand when you get to the episode called, "Why We Fight." I wonder how many descendants of Holocaust survivors in the US have voted 
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:23:55 PM EDT
[#29]
I own BOB and The Pacific box set. I get giddy every year when I break it out to watch it
 Best series eva |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:25:49 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great series, I have the metal box set. Lots of good bonus features. I need to get the blueray set as well. |
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Posted: 1/23/2021 11:37:27 PM EDT
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Checking Sobel on Wikipedia revealed this:
Sobel returned to the United States in 1945,  and was honorably discharged from the Army on 18 March 1946. He worked as an accountant before being recalled to active duty during the Korean War.[9] He remained in the Army National Guard, eventually retiring at the rank of lieutenant colonel.[citation needed] He later married and had three children.[10]In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol in an attempted suicide.[11] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[11] Soon afterward, he began living at a VA assisted-living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He died there of malnutrition on 30 September 1987.[11][12] No memorial services were held for him.[11] |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 12:13:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Checking Sobel on Wikipedia revealed this: Sobel returned to the United States in 1945, and was honorably discharged from the Army on 18 March 1946. He worked as an accountant before being recalled to active duty during the Korean War.[9] He remained in the Army National Guard, eventually retiring at the rank of lieutenant colonel.[citation needed] He later married and had three children.[10]In 1970, Sobel shot himself in the head with a small-caliber pistol in an attempted suicide.[11] The bullet entered his left temple, passed behind his eyes, and exited the other side of his head. This severed his optic nerves and left him blind.[11] Soon afterward, he began living at a VA assisted-living facility in Waukegan, Illinois. He died there of malnutrition on 30 September 1987.[11][12] No memorial services were held for him.[11] Any time Band of Brothers gets its own thread, this sad story gets mentioned. Even though Easy Company despised Sobel, many members of the company still sought to include him in their reunion organization; one E Company member (I forget who) even paid his annual dues for a time (Sobel never attended any reunion events). Yes, he was/would've been a terrible combat leader; yes, he was quite a jackass of a training environment leader, too- but, many E Co members credit his actions with contributing to the Company's success. His aggression and severity made the men of the company bond so well that they were especially equipped to endure tremendous hardships and fight with distinction during every single campaign in the war. Sobel was an unlikable jerk, but his works did yield fruit- it's a tragedy that his end went the way it did.  Can't remember where I read the above: it was either Ambrose's account of the company, the Biggest Brother account of Winters, or the account written by Donald Malarkey (I think that was called Easy Company Soldier). |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 2:54:17 PM EDT
[#33]
in the series,
 Band of Brothers: interview&flashbacks sorry about the poor quality. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:00:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryBalls of steel. That man had em. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:00:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The assault on the MG-40 in this episode once again shows how good a tactician Dick Winters was. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:03:53 PM EDT
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BAND OF BROTHERS - Lieutenant Speirs' run through the enemy lines (HD) |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:14:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Around the time B.O.B. came out, I was traveling alone in France and I made a journal entry while I was having a little picnic overlooking the remnants of the D-day landings on the beach at Arromanches.
I wrote about how all of the efforts, death, destruction....were all worth it. I realized long ago that my assessment was shallow, and I don't think I have ever been more wrong. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:28:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any time Band of Brothers gets its own thread, this sad story gets mentioned. Even though Easy Company despised Sobel, many members of the company still sought to include him in their reunion organization; one E Company member (I forget who) even paid his annual dues for a time (Sobel never attended any reunion events). Yes, he was/would've been a terrible combat leader; yes, he was quite a jackass of a training environment leader, too- but, many E Co members credit his actions with contributing to the Company's success. His aggression and severity made the men of the company bond so well that they were especially equipped to endure tremendous hardships and fight with distinction during every single campaign in the war. Sobel was an unlikable jerk, but his works did yield fruit- it's a tragedy that his end went the way it did. Can't remember where I read the above: it was either Ambrose's account of the company, the Biggest Brother account of Winters, or the account written by Donald Malarkey (I think that was called Easy Company Soldier). That was Wild Bill that paid his dues. He spoke openly about how he hated his techniques but credited his results. I believe Sobel's son attended at least one reunion. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:35:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Around the time B.O.B. came out, I was traveling alone in France and I made a journal entry while I was having a little picnic overlooking the remnants of the D-day landings on the beach at Arromanches. I wrote about how all of the efforts, death, destruction....were all worth it. I realized long ago that my assessment was shallow, and I don't think I have ever been more wrong. Not to criticize, certainly not you in particular, but to mention people who feel this sentiment. Do y’all work for a living? No matter how bad it is, it could ALWAYS be worse. One of my toolies used to say “It doesn’t get any better than this. It could, it just doesn’t.” Be happy for your blessings and quit lessening the Sacrifices of our predecessors. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:39:21 PM EDT
[#40]
Spiers! Get yourself over here!
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:40:33 PM EDT
[#41]
One of my favorite scenes.
 Band of Brothers-German General's Farewell Address |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:42:05 PM EDT
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OP, you don’t own the box set?
I’m reassigning you to Chilton Foliat. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:51:27 PM EDT
[#43]
Well this thread made me order the Blurays.
I've been wanting to watch it lately. I thought it used to be free on Prime but it appears it no longer is. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 3:51:32 PM EDT
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I knew a person from Easy Company, he was my high school shop teacher for electricity / electronics. A real hero.
Forrest Guth |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:06:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not to criticize, certainly not you in particular, but to mention people who feel this sentiment. Do y’all work for a living? No matter how bad it is, it could ALWAYS be worse. One of my toolies used to say “It doesn’t get any better than this. It could, it just doesn’t.” Be happy for your blessings and quit lessening the Sacrifices of our predecessors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Around the time B.O.B. came out, I was traveling alone in France and I made a journal entry while I was having a little picnic overlooking the remnants of the D-day landings on the beach at Arromanches. I wrote about how all of the efforts, death, destruction....were all worth it. I realized long ago that my assessment was shallow, and I don't think I have ever been more wrong. Not to criticize, certainly not you in particular, but to mention people who feel this sentiment. Do y’all work for a living? No matter how bad it is, it could ALWAYS be worse. One of my toolies used to say “It doesn’t get any better than this. It could, it just doesn’t.” Be happy for your blessings and quit lessening the Sacrifices of our predecessors. I do work for a living. I'm also an avid student of WW II, the Soviet Union and Communism in general. Of course it could be worse. But in hindsight and when looking at where we are today, it seems clear that the American lives that were lost in Europe were lost in vain. It is not at all lessening their sacrifice in saying so. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:11:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pretty sure that was an MG-42. No it was an MP42 |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:16:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, thank God it prevented the rise of Soviet and Chinese communist superpowers. And Europe loves us too. We sure are lucky. Twattyers...... |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Spiers! Get yourself over here! To me, that's one of the best scenes in the entire series. |
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:23:32 PM EDT
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FPNI, also grabbed generation kill set for cheap from hbo awhile back. Solid!
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Posted: 1/24/2021 4:23:33 PM EDT
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Assholes being assholes.
 Graffiti & Vandalism at Band of Brothers Site!!! |
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