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1/7/2025 3:52:36 PM EDT
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While I dig the concept and I'd love an original AR-180, this does nothing better than my DI AR15s and costs a good bit to boot.

1/7/2025 3:54:55 PM EDT
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I wanted to just piss and moan about the gasket, hoping instead for an FAL style slide or some mechanical means of covering the cavern side of the bolt area, but the positives outweigh the negatives.  


Good upper to rail transition contour.  Slick, clean bolt appearance even if it's a separate dustcover.  Good improvement on takedown latch.  


1/7/2025 4:08:07 PM EDT
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Can a non-P&W upper be purchased for those who have a registered lower?

Is the barrel CL or nitrided?  

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Not yet, but there will be line extensions.

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1/7/2025 4:12:26 PM EDT
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It looks pretty sweet. I had not been interested in the previous iterations but I'll give this one a closer look.
1/7/2025 4:15:42 PM EDT
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I have to say this is losing any resemblance whatsoever to the AR 180. It's become more like a G-36 or an SA-80. It's just a rifle that uses the AR 180s operating system, but has nothing else in common with it.
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The current gen Mustang doesn't have anything in common with the original either. I don't think it was really intended to be a remake, but was always more of a modern interpretation.
1/7/2025 4:19:22 PM EDT
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10% of the population is left handed
7.2% of the population is gay


If the lefties are catered to then next it will be the gays, do you want your rifles to have dick shaped selectors and to shoot rainbows? A line needs to be drawn.
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1st week of January and already contender for post of the year.
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1/7/2025 4:26:35 PM EDT
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Glad I visited this thread to be able to read the lamentations of roughly 10%-13% of the population. Worth it. May buy.
1/7/2025 4:27:08 PM EDT
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I guess I don’t need to spend anymore money with brownells since they hate me for being left-handed
1/7/2025 4:27:24 PM EDT
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Why assume when it is explained in the video?
1/7/2025 4:34:15 PM EDT
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I guess I don't need to spend anymore money with brownells since they hate me for being left-handed
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There's always the gen2 :)
1/7/2025 4:47:39 PM EDT
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Any plans for a 5-6" 500blk barrel option?  9" is ok but shorter is better.
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Many suppressors aren't rated for .300 blk shorter than 8 or 8.5 inches.
1/7/2025 5:05:47 PM EDT
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Many suppressors aren't rated for .300 blk shorter than 8 or 8.5 inches.
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?
1/7/2025 5:22:50 PM EDT
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I'm going to post a poll for line extension this week so we can get the Arf input. I'll make sure to link in this thread.

Thanks!
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Any plans for a 5-6" 500blk barrel option?  9" is ok but shorter is better.
I'm going to post a poll for line extension this week so we can get the Arf input. I'll make sure to link in this thread.

Thanks!


I’d snatch one of those up in a heartbeat
1/7/2025 5:28:09 PM EDT
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$1200 upper what a rip off! It’s cool as fuck but not 12 bones cool.
1/7/2025 5:30:11 PM EDT
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?
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Lol, ignorant.
1/7/2025 5:39:28 PM EDT
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$1200 upper what a rip off! It’s cool as fuck but not 12 bones cool.
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$1200 upper what a rip off! It’s cool as fuck but not 12 bones cool.



It's not for left handed folks, gays or the poors....

The price seems to be right in line with other piston AR uppers.

1/7/2025 5:49:05 PM EDT
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No 10.5/11.5 ?  This is why I'm getting a JAKL.

1/7/2025 5:52:47 PM EDT
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No 10.5/11.5 ?  This is why I'm getting a JAKL.

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We've actually had some pretty sporty internal discussions about the next barrel lengths in the line. We'll being doing a poll here shortly to get some solid data from Arf.
1/7/2025 5:59:09 PM EDT
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I didn't watch a video. I have a person from the company right here that is answering questions so I'm going to take advantage of that.
1/7/2025 5:59:43 PM EDT
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I wonder if they know what powder was left in that dribbler?

Tony
1/7/2025 6:04:46 PM EDT
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That video was kind of painful. Zoomer kid showing Boomer grandpa the new hotness.

Until Grandpa got out "perfect alignment, theoretically"

1/7/2025 6:06:19 PM EDT
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A 7" 300 blk version would be awesome.
1/7/2025 6:29:40 PM EDT
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That video was kind of painful. Zoomer kid showing Boomer grandpa the new hotness.

Until Grandpa got out "perfect alignment, theoretically"

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Caleb is solidly a millennial lol
1/7/2025 6:51:40 PM EDT
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1/7/2025 6:59:46 PM EDT
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A 7" 300 blk version would be awesome.
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Yup. Few of us here asking for it.

I'd be in. If the price is better than a Rattler
1/7/2025 7:25:56 PM EDT
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That’s pretty slick.
1/7/2025 7:38:07 PM EDT
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Lol, ignorant.
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?

Lol, ignorant.


My 30 cal cans dont have minimum barrel lengths. Why would you buy one that does?
1/7/2025 7:53:22 PM EDT
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My 30 cal cans dont have minimum barrel lengths. Why would you buy one that does?
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?

Lol, ignorant.


My 30 cal cans dont have minimum barrel lengths. Why would you buy one that does?

I'm guessing it's because some 9mm cans are also rated for .300 BLK but only with specified barrel lengths.
1/7/2025 8:06:50 PM EDT
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I'm going to post a poll for line extension this week so we can get the Arf input. I'll make sure to link in this thread.

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You'll probably get 1000 people claiming to want a specific option, and then 5 actual buyers.
1/7/2025 8:25:41 PM EDT
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I'm guessing it's because some 9mm cans are also rated for .300 BLK but only with specified barrel lengths.
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?

Lol, ignorant.


My 30 cal cans dont have minimum barrel lengths. Why would you buy one that does?

I'm guessing it's because some 9mm cans are also rated for .300 BLK but only with specified barrel lengths.


I have one of those and would never use it for 30 cal because ITS A 9MM PISTOL CAN.
1/7/2025 8:28:57 PM EDT
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I have one of those and would never use it for 30 cal because ITS A 9MM PISTOL CAN.
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Stop buying shitty suppressors?

Lol, ignorant.


My 30 cal cans dont have minimum barrel lengths. Why would you buy one that does?

I'm guessing it's because some 9mm cans are also rated for .300 BLK but only with specified barrel lengths.


I have one of those and would never use it for 30 cal because ITS A 9MM PISTOL CAN.

Same here, but there must be enough people who.
1/7/2025 8:34:28 PM EDT
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You'll probably get 1000 people claiming to want a specific option, and then 5 actual buyers.
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I've spent some time in market research- for every 50 "I want it to take cz original scorpion mags
and be in 32, but make it roller delayed" posts, there's some good info. It's really more about tie breaking between what we already know and giving insights to what we're missing.
1/7/2025 8:38:00 PM EDT
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It’s really nothing like an AR-180-type firearm appearance wise. I have two Sterlings, an AR-180B, and a BRN-180 built so that it looks like a modern AR-180 - used the club foot MagPull stock and have the Manticore Arms AR-180 stock for it. (I’m an AR-180 owner back to the 1980s and saw my first one in 1978.)

They should have just changed the name as “Gen 3” doesn’t fit. It may be a fantastic rifle but it should have been given a new name.
1/7/2025 8:53:57 PM EDT
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Honestly the BRN-180 is basically what everyone said they wanted in an AR-180C(/D/E) from Armalite.  It looks great, so kudos!

I’m all about that BRN-4 though. I’m probably going to buy a 10.5 upper within the first half of the year to go with my 16.  I’d love to see a BRN-4A5 if there aren’t HK patents on the upper changes.  
1/7/2025 9:17:50 PM EDT
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First Gen3 review I came across:

NEW Brownells BRN-180 Gen 3 (FIRST LOOK)
1/7/2025 9:23:24 PM EDT
[#37]
This BRN-180 Gen3 is a significant improvement and addresses the shortcomings (ingress areas for contaminants & ergos)  for a more serious user.

This BRN-180 is a solid AR-180 evolution, and has the guts to prove it. IMO if you want a legacy gun, go get a HOWA produced version. The Costa Mesa and Sterling are not even close in quality.

SigSAN has been using rubber gliders on 55X's charging handles for decades, can be a good solution. On this one it wont be getting beat with a reciprocating handle.

1/7/2025 11:22:24 PM EDT
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It's not for left handed folks, gays or the poors....

The price seems to be right in line with other piston AR uppers.

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$1200 upper what a rip off! It’s cool as fuck but not 12 bones cool.



It's not for left handed folks, gays or the poors....

The price seems to be right in line with other piston AR uppers.


I paid $800 for my Gen2 upper. A 50% price increase is NOT right.
1/7/2025 11:27:26 PM EDT
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This BRN-180 Gen3 is a significant improvement and addresses the shortcomings (ingress areas for contaminants & ergos)  for a more serious user.

This BRN-180 is a solid AR-180 evolution, and has the guts to prove it. IMO if you want a legacy gun, go get a HOWA produced version. The Costa Mesa and Sterling are not even close in quality.

SigSAN has been using rubber gliders on 55X's charging handles for decades, can be a good solution. On this one it wont be getting beat with a reciprocating handle.

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Get to bed early, Brownells likes their employees on time.
1/7/2025 11:52:16 PM EDT
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Looks solid. I’d love it at $999 but that might be unreasonable. I can live with the 9” barrel even though I think 8” would be a little better. I can see one in my future
1/8/2025 12:06:13 AM EDT
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Looks good. This might end up being my first 300blk.
1/8/2025 12:11:03 AM EDT
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Get to bed early, Brownell's likes their employees on time.
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No affiliation... let me rephrase, assuming your vocabulary extends to the level of your displayed thinking..  no connection, do not know, no worky there, no recess time with the kids at Brownell's playground.


AR-180 is the mother of modern gas tappet carbines. HK416, HK G36, SCAR, BREN, etc. ad nauseum.
IMO, the original BRN-180 was an interesting homage to an iconic 60's rifle. Gen2 marginally improved. Gen3 addresses shortfalls that would preclude a serious user from even evaluating for professional use. I'm a fan of an fundamentally sound American design rising again.

An AR lower ~ 2lbs 2oz  +  BRN-180 13.9" upper @ 4.82lbs  (4lbs 13oz)        so ~ 6lbs 15oz  vs IIRC about a pound lighter than HK416
1/8/2025 12:17:06 AM EDT
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My reply from the other thread.
Charging handle needs to be forward, not on the side of the upper. Its gonna hang up on gear, or just snag a lot of clothing.

I would actually buy one except for the charging handle location. I own a jakl, and the only reason I have not sold it is due to the charging handle location, other wise I think the jakl is too forward heavy.

PSA please find a way to drop the weight out front that is retrofitable to the one I have.
1/8/2025 12:42:02 AM EDT
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When did Brownells hire the Unknown Hinson’s son?
1/8/2025 1:13:23 AM EDT
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11.5 or 12.5 uppers please.
1/8/2025 11:27:20 AM EDT
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New lower available
1/8/2025 11:52:57 AM EDT
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Any chance you will offer a chrome lined barrel version ?  I'm okay with the price.
1/8/2025 11:58:12 AM EDT
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Charging handle needs to be forward, not on the side of the upper. Its gonna hang up on gear, or just snag a lot of clothing.

I would actually buy one except for the charging handle location. I own a jakl, and the only reason I have not sold it is due to the charging handle location, other wise I think the jakl is too forward heavy.

PSA please find a way to drop the weight out front that is retrofitable to the one I have.
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A Foxtrot Mike FM-15 addresses some of these issues.
1/8/2025 11:58:54 AM EDT
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First Gen3 review I came across:

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Watched that earlier… I would love to nab one of these things… not having unlimited gun funds is seriously cramping my style.
1/8/2025 1:00:54 PM EDT
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And fix the double meme inserts while you are at it!

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