BREAKING: Mayday, mayday, mayday, This is Jet Blue flight.... - Page 2

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - BREAKING: Mayday, mayday, mayday, This is Jet Blue flight.... (Page 2 of 4)

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:48:04 PM EDT

[#1]

Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:53:34 PM EDT

[#2]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

No emergency gear or nearby medical services, but if Fox is able to milk this any longer...

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:54:59 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

With the nose gear in an unknown state, they CAN'T land on anything soft. The nose gear will dig in. The nose could break off at that point, or maybe not. Either way, the plane will cartwheel all over the sky, breaking up, scattering parts and bodies, and burning.

On a hard asphalt runway, they will coat it with foam, land as slow as possible with a high angle of attack, and wait as long as possible to set the nose gear down. This will get the speed down as much as possible. When the gear comes down, whatever else happens, at least it will slide down a slick hard runway with spark/fire suppression. They may lose control or break the plane, but no cartwheels hopefully.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:55:21 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

I'm not familiar with the geography, but the other factor is the emergency equipment. You want to be able to put a lot of foam down fast. LAX should have the needed equipment/resources.

One more thing, they said they'll perform a landing where they slow as much as possible using the rear set of gear that way there will be less stress on the front gear. For that, they say, they'll need a long runway. LAX has a 12K ft runway.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:55:23 PM EDT

[#5]

that makes sense I guess. Patty

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:57:16 PM EDT

[#6]

watch live feed do not hot link

mms://a463.l1190731971.c11907.n.lm.akamaistream.net/D/463/11907/v0001/reflector:31971

copy and paste into browser.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:57:35 PM EDT

[#7]

Damn.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:58:06 PM EDT

[#8]

According to my Mac's flight tracker flight 292 is flying at 227 mph at 6100 feet.

They also say it is 12 minutes early.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:59:20 PM EDT

[#9]

Landing into the wind at LAX, about 6 pm or so. Still holding over Catalina.

It's on KTLA 5 , the primary commentator is a long time pilot so we aren't getting the typical talk out your ass bs you get on some channels.

Looks like they are lining up lots and lots of emergency vehicles.

Posted: 9/21/2005 4:59:48 PM EDT

[#10]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

You WANT a hard surface. A hard surface is better/preferred.

Hard surface... airplane slides parts break off… and just maybe the body stays in one piece.

Soft surface... airplane, gear, engines, wing tips dig in soft surface... airplane tumbles breaks into pieces and results in fireball.

Soft surface very bad.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:02:33 PM EDT

[#11]

I think I would rather go with a gear up landing.
Rather than a nose gear at 90 degrees landing.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:08:45 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
wouldn't it be wiser to land the dern thing in a soft field rather than on a hard run way? Patty

I'm not sure you'd want the front gear to be able to dig in. That and I don't think there is a "soft" runway long enough.

Humm...you'd think with the American Sierra Desert not too far from LAX that would be a safer spot. Difinately more room too, but what do I know?

Patty

You WANT a hard surface. A hard surface is better/preferred.

Hard surface... airplane slides parts break off… and just maybe the body stays in one piece.

Soft surface... airplane, gear, engines, wing tips dig in soft surface... airplane tumbles breaks into pieces and results in fireball.

Soft surface very bad.

Really? Go figure. I really don't have a clue. Patty

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:13:52 PM EDT

[#13]

18 miles out and on his approach.

God bless them

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:14:03 PM EDT

[#14]

Listen to LAX approach live at www.liveatc.net

I'm listening to it now, but haven't heard anything about the Jet Blue plane..

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:14:46 PM EDT

[#15]

A crash landing near ambulances, fire engines, EMS, and hospitals would be preferred, dontchathink. 5K feet, now.

Godspeed.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:16:33 PM EDT

[#16]

3K feet.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:17:01 PM EDT

[#17]

And the Fox news asswipe never heard of foaming a runway? Please, God, when the aricraft touches down may we have a live shot of a 300 pound nose wheel decapitating a reporter? In trade for the safe return to earth of the aircraft? Please?

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:18:17 PM EDT

[#18]

Quoted:
I think I would rather go with a gear up landing.
Rather than a nose gear at 90 degrees landing.

The nose gear will likely shear off and all will be well.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:18:53 PM EDT

[#19]

A320 having problems, nothing new.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:09 PM EDT

[#20]

looks good!

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:16 PM EDT

[#21]

great job by the pilot.....

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:26 PM EDT

[#22]

Darn fine job by the pilots!

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:27 PM EDT

[#23]

Awesome. Perfect landing.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:32 PM EDT

[#24]

It's down. Well done by the pilot!

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:35 PM EDT

[#25]

Could'nt have been better...

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:45 PM EDT

[#26]

wow!!!! great work

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:50 PM EDT

[#27]

Fuck yeah! Awesome landing--I'm gonna start flying on that airline!

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:50 PM EDT

[#28]

sweet....

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:53 PM EDT

[#29]

damn. that was a little nerve wracking.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:20:58 PM EDT

[#30]

He's down and OK. The nose wheel did not collapse.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:21:05 PM EDT

[#31]

Quoted:
And the Fox news asswipe never heard of foaming a runway? Please, God, when the aricraft touches down may we have a live shot of a 300 pound nose wheel decapitating a reporter? In trade for the safe return to earth of the aircraft? Please?

<personified plane> ohh, your blood is so smooth and slippery Timmy! It will help me come to a safe stop.
<reporter, Timmy> Ahhhhh! Ahhhh!

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:21:07 PM EDT

[#32]

perfect

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:21:09 PM EDT

[#33]

w00t

Great job

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:21:19 PM EDT

[#34]

Thank god thank god thank god. Im in tears, its so good to know that everyones ok.

Posted: 9/21/2005 5:21:53 PM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:
It can't have been the pins or they couldn't have turned to taxi to active. They would have known the instant they pushed on a rudder peddle. Must be worse.

They have a steering wheel,but result would be the same! Once saw an RJ that got loose while being pushed back,RJ going out of control backwards,not much pilot could do 'cept sit there and wait for A/C to reach upslope of ramp!