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Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:42:09 AM EDT
[#1]
Shouldn't he have to give a lot of money back to the Republican Party?



What's even worse is the probability that Franken will be #60 pretty soon.  
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:42:25 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.



NIGHTSTAKER...........You are wrong on your opinion here. There are a NUMBER of Senate Democrats who have already announced OFFICIALLY that they WILL NOT VOTE FOR AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN!!!!!

Also, there are 65+++ House Democrats  that have GONE ON THE RECORD against the AWB. It is not going to happen for AT LEAST two years.......but probably not at all!!!!!




Umm, 65 House Democrats doesn't mean crap.  All you need are 218 out of 435 to vote for an AWB in the house and it passes.  Without the ability to filibuster, we're sunk and the bill comes up for a vote.  It will pass by a majority and those dems who committed not to vote for an AWB can keep their promise and it will still pass.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:42:48 AM EDT
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When Al Franken gets setaed, they will have 60. Not good.


What??

Have you forgotten the other RINO's

Sen. Collin
Sen Snow
Sen. McCain


They already have it.

Its only a matter of time for those freaks to change party...
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:45:42 AM EDT
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....NIGHTSTAKER...........You are wrong on your opinion here. There are a NUMBER of Senate Democrats who have already announced OFFICIALLY that they WILL NOT VOTE FOR AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN!!!!!

Also, there are 65+++ House Democrats  that have GONE ON THE RECORD against the AWB. It is not going to happen for AT LEAST two years.......but probably not at all!!!!!




You really think the next ban is going to be phrased as the 'AWB'? Don't be naive; it'll be the Put Americans To Work And Protect Our Children Act of 2009, and you damned well better believe your precious Democrats will vote for it.


Don't forget what they always put at the end of those bills..........."And for other purposes"
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:46:45 AM EDT
[#5]
For all the folks who insist that a third party vote is wasted, and that faux-conservative running as a Republican is a better choice that "wasting" a vote, here's a wake-up call.  Those RINOs are NOT on anyone's side but their own.  They run as Republicans because they don't think they can get elected running as Democrats.  It's not that they are conservative.  

I will confess to having been one of those people, up until the results this last November.  By the time the Republican Party is "re-worked from the inside", it's going to all be over but the crying.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:47:21 AM EDT
[#6]
Does anyone need anymore proof that we have a One Party system?

That said, Rush and Beck should be good programs today.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:47:21 AM EDT
[#7]
The only real hope is that they are dumb enough to push through a total ban before they fix the makeup of the court.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:50:45 AM EDT
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.....By the time the Republican Party is "re-worked from the inside", it's going to all be over but the crying.


It already is.  Look around dude.  Government is telling companies who to hire and fire at the top levels.  Taking ownership of anything it chooses.  Spending trillions on the backs of children that aren't born yet.  Ignoring the constitution almost in whole.  What's left but the crying?

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:51:21 AM EDT
[#9]


Good riddance

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Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:51:25 AM EDT
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The only real hope is that they are dumb enough to push through a total ban before they fix the makeup of the court.


Don't see it as pertinent.1934,1968,1986 NOT affected by Heller.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:51:26 AM EDT
[#11]
Good God.  May God help our Nation, forgive us of our sins, and turn things around before it is too late.  I don't know what else to say.  I don't have any sarcastic comments.  All the cusswords in the world won't help.  My heart is breaking for my children and all those who will grow up only knowing Socialism, and the loss of freedom.  Where is William Wallace when you need him?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:52:18 AM EDT
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.....By the time the Republican Party is "re-worked from the inside", it's going to all be over but the crying.


It already is.  Look around dude.   What's left but the crying?



Uh, I'm trying to keep a stiff upper lip.  You are NOT helping.

But, you're 100% spot-on.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:52:41 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.




The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.




 



What is it with the negative waves, Moriarty? Always with them negative waves, man.




In all seriousness, the American people don't support this crap. It's a loser for them. Doing something like this would be suicide for their efforts.



So ease up on the paranoia, please. It isn't like the Republican Party didn't already count his vote against any future party-led initiative. Besides, there's some Dem Senators who won't go along with this, which means that there won't be any bills that can't be filibustered.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:53:48 AM EDT
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He is a back stabbing, self important bastard.  Why YOU follks in PA kept electing him I WILL NEVER know.


Isn't PA the same state that keeps giving us Murtha?

PA must have some bad water.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:53:52 AM EDT
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He's switching parties?

Are you serious?


??????????????
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:54:01 AM EDT
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Mar. 19, 2009
Specter staying on Republican ticket By Thomas Fitzgerald

Inquirer Staff Writer

Sen. Arlen Specter yesterday tried to snuff speculation that he waspreparing to bolt the Republican Party in the face of a conservativeuprising that threatens his bid for a sixth term."To eliminate any doubt, I am a Republican, and I am running forreelection in 2010 as a Republican on the Republican ticket," Spectersaid in a statement released by his campaign manager.






Pennsylvania Folks - THROW THIS BUM OUT!


Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:56:29 AM EDT
[#17]
"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate," he said in the statement.

"I don't have to say anything to them. They said it to me," Specter said, when asked in a Capitol corridor about abandoning the GOP.


I hope the cancer comes back there, Arlen.

Fuckstick, I wasn't going to vote for you anyway.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:56:32 AM EDT
[#18]
I wonder what he was promised for this
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:56:42 AM EDT
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The only real hope is that they are dumb enough to push through a total ban before they fix the makeup of the court.


Don't see it as pertinent.1934,1968,1986 NOT affected by Heller.


I don't think the court completely stamped placing any rifle or operating action into the same category as NFA nor do I see them being able to put a M-14 (my bad there) M1A on the NFA and then closing the door to all registrations (1986) which was EXACTLY the point of Heller.  We'll see I guess because they are going to pass their ban.  I'm fairly sure of it.  I just don't know if they intend to wait for mid-terms or not.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:56:46 AM EDT
[#20]
Good riddance. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:57:22 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.

 

What is it with the negative waves, Moriarty? Always with them negative waves, man.

In all seriousness, the American people don't support this crap. It's a loser for them. Doing something like this would be suicide for their efforts.

So ease up on the paranoia, please. It isn't like the Republican Party didn't already count his vote against any future party-led initiative. Besides, there's some Dem Senators who won't go along with this, which means that there won't be any bills that can't be filibustered.


These people don't give a shit what the American people think.If Specter and maybe Snow and Collins see a switch as a survival tool,already Dems will bow down to leadership.There is one party in town now-join or be irrelevant.The revolution is well on it's way to fascism/socialism.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:58:35 AM EDT
[#22]
I do feel betrayed, but at least that liberal POS isnt hiding behind the GOP any longer.

Tis state continues to go downhill.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:59:08 AM EDT
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When Al Franken gets setaed, they will have 60. Not good.


What??

Have you forgotten the other RINO's

Sen. Collin
Sen Snow
Sen. McCain


They already have it.

Its only a matter of time for those freaks to change party...


No, you're wrong.

Republicans, even RINOs will side with the party out of party loyalty and can be pressured to vote with the party to maintain a filibuster on the really bad stuff. McCain, Snow and Collin have liberal tendencies a lot of the time, but they can be useful because as Republicans they can be pressured and threatened by the party to toe the line and show the flag from time to time. By switching the the Democrats Specter is putting himself under a whole new banner and can/will be pressured to go left on issues that he would go right on as a Republican. They are probably offering him money and a chairmanship by getting him to jump. In return he's going to be expected to fall in line on issues that he normally wouldn't go left on. What those are off the top of my head I can't say, but my gut tells me that the Dems have something unusually bad they want pushed through.

The Republicans have been completely shut out of the congress. Completely! The Dems haven't had any trouble getting any of their bills passed even with defectors in the House. Now the Dems are enticing Specter to switch so that they can have a filibuster proof majority in the Senate. Why? What is coming that they are worried about a filibuster? What are they going to get Specter to go with them on that they wouldn't expect a lefty Republican to vote for anyway?

In politics, switching parties is damn rare. Zell Miller didn't switch parties after everything that the Dems did to him, Joe Lieberman didn't switch parties after everything the Dems did to him. Hell, even Jim Jeffords didn't switch parties, he just became an independent. For someone like Arlen Specter to switch parties is pretty damn unheard of. This is a new level of treachery and there is something big behind it. The Dems got Specter to break ranks on the Stimulus bill pretty easily, and he has a clear record of voting to the left of center. Why get him to switch parties? What are they afraid that the Republicans will filibuster when the Dems so easily got their stimulus package and budget passed?

Something is up with all of this. I don't like it.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 8:59:30 AM EDT
[#24]
The tyranny of the majority has now begun.  It is time to think seriously about the future of a liberal country, and if we do not like it, it is time to plan resistance.

The rest of my comment would be a violation, so I will withhold comment.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:00:46 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.



NIGHTSTAKER...........You are wrong on your opinion here. There are a NUMBER of Senate Democrats who have already announced OFFICIALLY that they WILL NOT VOTE FOR AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN!!!!!

Also, there are 65+++ House Democrats  that have GONE ON THE RECORD against the AWB. It is not going to happen for AT LEAST two years.......but probably not at all!!!!!



If our salvation is hoping that the DNC and The One cannot exert influence over enough of those Democrats (who will need money and support in the next election), we are doomed.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:01:30 AM EDT
[#26]
BOHICA
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:01:49 AM EDT
[#27]
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The tyranny of the majority has now begun.  It is time to think seriously about the future of a liberal country, and if we do not like it, it is time to plan resistance.

The rest of my comment would be a violation, so I will withhold comment.


Become a team member if you are really concerned.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:02:53 AM EDT
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His position on gun control will flip. Count. On. It.


Yep, look no further than the formerly supposed "gun friendly" lady Hillidibrandt or whatever her name is. The one who took Hillary's vacant NY senate seat.

He'll flip on gun control instantly like a switch.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:03:50 AM EDT
[#29]
Toomey is going to beat him next year one way or another.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:04:05 AM EDT
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Page 2!?!You people are slacking!!!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:05:02 AM EDT
[#31]
That motherfucker.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:05:21 AM EDT
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"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate," he said in the statement.

"I don't have to say anything to them. They said it to me," Specter said, when asked in a Capitol corridor about abandoning the GOP.


I hope the cancer comes back there, Arlen.

Fuckstick, I wasn't going to vote for you anyway.


Translation:

"How dare you voters be displeased with my voting record! I am a United States Senator and will do as I damn well please! I don't need the electorate, the electorate needs ME!"

What a piece of shit!

What a fucking piece of shit!

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:05:36 AM EDT
[#33]
Sen. Arlen Specter has just announced in his Washington Senate office that he will switch from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party. His move gives Democrats 59 votes in the Senate....

Specter put out the following statement today:



I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and the nation.







Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than 200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with Democrats than Republicans.




When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now experiencing.


Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of Pennsylvania.


I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.


I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.


I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their forbearance.


I am not making this decision because there are no important and interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.


I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign contributions contributed during this cycle.


While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.


My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans. Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.
Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I think is best for Pennsylvania and America.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:06:56 AM EDT
[#34]
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Toomey is going to beat him next year one way or another.


I think this makes it easier for Toomey to win.

Now he doesn't have to battle "Scottish Law" Spector in the primary.    (Extra points awarded for those that know how he got that nickname.)

Now wouldn't it be delicious if Spector LOST to a real dem in the primary?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:08:22 AM EDT
[#35]
I wish all RINOs would leave the party. Bye bye asshole!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:09:23 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


He realizes he has a better chance at getting re-elected as a democrat.

It's about maintaining power.




exactly what i first thought. he knows there is no way he will contnue to be elected in the repub primaries
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:10:46 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.






The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.





 






What is it with the negative waves, Moriarty? Always with them negative waves, man.








In all seriousness, the American people don't support this crap. It's a loser for them. Doing something like this would be suicide for their efforts.





So ease up on the paranoia, please. It isn't like the Republican Party didn't already count his vote against any future party-led initiative. Besides, there's some Dem Senators who won't go along with this, which means that there won't be any bills that can't be filibustered.






These people don't give a shit what the American people think.If Specter and maybe Snow and Collins see a switch as a survival tool,already Dems will bow down to leadership.There is one party in town now-join or be irrelevant.The revolution is well on it's way to fascism/socialism.



I've been around a long time, probably longer than you.

 






I've seen weird times in America. People rioting in the streets because they hate someone else's skin color, political party, ethnic background, or the policies and wars of the government. I have seen a great nation taken down the path towards destruction by a corrupt politician that I personally liked and trusted. I have seen the nation re-born under a great man who literally saved the world from immolation by standing strong against the great evil of all time, Communism. I have seen this nation grow dependent on idiotic policies that support lazy people, reward wickedness, and punish productive folks.







But we survived it all.







Yes, it changed us permanently, and some of those changes left us in worse condition... but we learned from our mistakes.







A guy like Blagovitch, in the old days, would have become president... LBJ was no better than him, and just as brazen in his corruption. Yet we survived.







We will survive this bullshit from the Left. It will scar us, for sure - will leave us with a new orientation (Latino), much like the Irish left their mark on our culture. Not everybody will buy their (the Dems) line of bullshit in the future. There will be folks born who think like us, and who will take our place when we move on.







Stay positive. Stay frosty. The future's challenges can only be addressed if we're alert, expect the best, and plan for the worst.







Gents, it's May of 1942, and things are looking pretty bleak for the allies. But Midway and Guadalcanal and Operation Torch and Sicily is on its way!

 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:11:41 AM EDT
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Toomey is going to beat him next year one way or another.




I think this makes it easier for Toomey to win.



Now he doesn't have to battle "Scottish Law" Spector in the primary.    (Extra points awarded for those that know how he got that nickname.)



Now wouldn't it be delicious if Spector LOST to a real dem in the primary?
Yeah, I find it hard to believe that all the people who have been voting against him for almost 30 years are going to suddenly embrace him.





 
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:11:58 AM EDT
[#39]
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Translation:

"How dare you voters be displeased with my voting record! I am a United States Senator and will do as I damn well please! I don't need the electorate, the electorate needs ME!"

What a piece of shit!

What a fucking piece of shit!



That is how I read it as well.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:12:56 AM EDT
[#40]
NIH funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine,


Reason enough to eliminate it in my opinion!
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:13:23 AM EDT
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Toomey is going to beat him next year one way or another.


I think this makes it easier for Toomey to win.

Now he doesn't have to battle "Scottish Law" Spector in the primary.    (Extra points awarded for those that know how he got that nickname.)

Now wouldn't it be delicious if Spector LOST to a real dem in the primary?


Clinton Impeachment trial.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:13:38 AM EDT
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I wonder what he was promised for this



EXACTLY

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:15:03 AM EDT
[#43]
POS.  I am ashamed to be from PA.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:15:44 AM EDT
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3852243&mesg_id=3852243


I am seriously at a loss for words as to how they can say the republicans have become far right wing.

I mean, usually I can at least see the motivation for  their opinion, be it far fetched or not, but this I am at a total loss for.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:17:27 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.


AWB would be filibustered.  The Democrats are NOT in lockstep on that one.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:17:32 AM EDT
[#46]
Good...now if the3 real Republican idealogy will be lead by someone else other than RINO's.

Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:17:54 AM EDT
[#47]
The Dem's weakpoint in the Senate is Liebermann. Y'all think he can be fully turned?
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:18:15 AM EDT
[#48]
Only 13 days from when Toomey officially announced he was going to challenge Spector in the 2010 primary for the GOP senate seat nomination does he switch parties. 13 days ? WTF? You are losing in the polls for 13 days on an election that is over a year away and you are willing to switch parties that fast ? What a scumbag.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:18:33 AM EDT
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They must have some really evil shit that they want to get through if they are this bound and determined to have a filibuster proof majority. It's not like the Republicans have been able to stop anything in congress so far. What is it that the Dems desperately want to ram up our asses that they feel the need to get this asshole to switch parties now? Something isn't right.


The AWB will be a done deal and not a neutered one.Possibly a no grandfather clause one or one with strict registration ala NFA.We ARE fucked.



NIGHTSTAKER...........You are wrong on your opinion here. There are a NUMBER of Senate Democrats who have already announced OFFICIALLY that they WILL NOT VOTE FOR AN ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN!!!!!

Also, there are 65+++ House Democrats  that have GONE ON THE RECORD against the AWB. It is not going to happen for AT LEAST two years.......but probably not at all!!!!!



Dream on;the screws will be turned in the house and Reid will have to capitulate.It IS coming.


Why would Harry Reid "have to" capitulate?  He's the majority leader of the US Senate; he's one of the most powerful men in the world.
Link Posted: 4/28/2009 9:20:10 AM EDT
[#50]
Ahahaha holy shit. I am stunned.
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