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Link Posted: 9/26/2005 8:05:24 AM EDT
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Unfortunatly I am kinda my own doc....
That said what about switching to say Zoloft or Prozac?






So you take something that kicks your ass so now you want to choose between bamboo under your nails or a hot poker up your ass....


One would think you would have learned the 1st time....

Leave that shit alone.....



Or at least see a doc......

It is a crutch.



ETA: Docs get pens, and other shit to hawk thier dope on as many people as possible.....






I agree, he has to see a Doctor.


Do you have any experience in the area of Anxiety, Panic Disorders or Depression?  If you did, you would understand it is NOT a crutch and you would not be telling people who are having these problems, that their medications are a crutch.



+1 I was that ignorant before my first panic attack.  I used to think anyone on them was trying the easy way out, like a diet pill or some other quick fix.  Crazy pills...  Come back to us if you ever have a full on attack and your heartrate pumps around 180 and you think this is it.  When your mind no longer has control of your body you get a little freaked.  If you aren't an alcoholic, it's hard to tell another alcoholic how to quit.  There's no "tough it up pussy" about it.  
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 8:21:10 AM EDT
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Anyone else had the misfortune to be put on the crap?
What were your DT symptoms?

I have been on Paxil for about a year now for extreme anxiety attacks. The little pill works great but I have gained a ton of weight and would now like to cease the useage; However after not taking my doses for 4 days ( tonight would be 5) I am having what seems to be enhanced anxiety attacks....aka. Attacks on roids!!
Like I said I want nothing more than to be off of the mind altering drug but fear for my wellbeing as well as those around me.



I was on paxil for about a year.  Then due to a change in insurance providers I was unable to fill my prescriptions and was forced off of it cold turkey.

That shit is HELL.  Never go off Paxil cold turkey.  It is dangerous.  There are many suicides recorded from this.  I never got suicidal but I went several days of 16hour sleeping followed by 30 hours of wired and totally unable to deal with any emotion of sadness or anger.

Paxil probably should be taken off the market or at least restricted to a drug of last resort, simply because of the rebound effect if the patient gets cut off for any reason.

Link Posted: 9/26/2005 8:28:54 AM EDT
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The best way to get off that crap is to be chained in bed in a remote cabin.  It is hell. The only thing i can say is to contact your Doc, let him know what you are doing, and start taking half doses, until your body get use to that.  Then decrease by half again.  Repeat until your off.  Your doc or Px may have sample pacs with smaller dose pills that may be of help also



Withdrawl slowly and under a Dr's care.  While working for the USPS my Dr put me on Paxil and another time on Wellbutrin.  Withdrawl must be done very slowly.  Call your Dr and explain what you are doing and going through.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 9:34:47 AM EDT
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Unfortunatly I am kinda my own doc....
That said what about switching to say Zoloft or Prozac?






So you take something that kicks your ass so now you want to choose between bamboo under your nails or a hot poker up your ass....


One would think you would have learned the 1st time....

Leave that shit alone.....



Or at least see a doc......

It is a crutch.



ETA: Docs get pens, and other shit to hawk thier dope on as many people as possible.....






I agree, he has to see a Doctor.


Do you have any experience in the area of Anxiety, Panic Disorders or Depression?  If you did, you would understand it is NOT a crutch and you would not be telling people who are having these problems, that their medications are a crutch.







Sorry... I meant FOR MOST it is a crutch... We are an over medicated society.... And that hurts those who REALLY need it....  This guy quit paxil cold turkey after being perscribed it by a "friend" without ANY MONITORING and comes to of all places a gun forum to figure out and to get advice as to which will help HIS panic attacks Prozac or Zoloft....


Note this guy had a bad experience with Paxil and did not ask what the side effects of his new choice was.... It is pathetic.

But we should apply the mantra of ARFCOM here.... Zoloft or Prozac.

GET BOTH!!!


It is BEYOND all rational thinking and this jewel of collosal ignorance needs to see a competent Psychatrist to figure out the obviously DEEPER underlying problems. Problems that it would make this individual seek out a magic pill on the Internets after his last one failed him.



Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:04:26 PM EDT
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Note this guy had a bad experience with Paxil and did not ask what the side effects of his new choice was.... It is pathetic.

But we should apply the mantra of ARFCOM here.... Zoloft or Prozac.

GET BOTH!!!


It is BEYOND all rational thinking and this jewel of collosal ignorance needs to see a competent Psychatrist to figure out the obviously DEEPER underlying problems. Problems that it would make this individual seek out a magic pill on the Internets after his last one failed him.



Read the whole thread junior!
I have no underlying problems, and to be clear my Dr. became my friend after the diagnosis....then he moved so now I am in between Dr.'s and have been getting some surgeon friends to do my scripts.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:32:06 PM EDT
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Note this guy had a bad experience with Paxil and did not ask what the side effects of his new choice was.... It is pathetic.

But we should apply the mantra of ARFCOM here.... Zoloft or Prozac.

GET BOTH!!!


It is BEYOND all rational thinking and this jewel of collosal ignorance needs to see a competent Psychatrist to figure out the obviously DEEPER underlying problems. Problems that it would make this individual seek out a magic pill on the Internets after his last one failed him.



Read the whole thread junior!
I have no underlying problems, and to be clear my Dr. became my friend after the diagnosis....then he moved so now I am in between Dr.'s and have been getting some surgeon friends to do my scripts.





Don't have a panic attack pocahantas. I read the thread and think you are not doing yourself any favors..... I am glad to see that you have random "panic attacks" for absolutley no reason at all and that all you need is some magic pill you saw on the moving picture box with all those happy blobs....

Do you even CARE to try to figure out what sparks those attacks or are happy pills all you need?

I think its great that you have a surgeon "friend" "doin your scripts" I am sure that they are REEEEELY helping you out.





Link Posted: 9/26/2005 12:40:13 PM EDT
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Thanks again everyone.
I have been back on my 30mg doses for 2 days now and WOW how much better I feel.
I am going to see another doctor in another town in a couple of weeks, maybe I can still get off this shit.



Good luck with that.  I grew up being on those meds when I was a teenager.  Like someone else said, I didn't have any benefits and the medicene was too expensive for me to continue to take.  I've been on Paxil, Zoloft, Prozac, Buspar, and some other stuff for various periods of time.

I successfully removed myself from those medications by doing the research and finding and effective method for me to step myself off of them.  It was still difficult for me for several months, but now that I've been off them for so many years (about 9 years now), I would never EVER go on them again.  

If you have the option of a physician supervise getting you off that stuff, do it.

Another poster recommended Cognitive Behavioral Thearpy...look into it.  If I ever get good benefits coverage again, that's the route I'm going.

I found that a healthy diet (lots of bland and less-than-tasty food helped
9 years later, I still have my nights where just a second before I'm asleep my heart races and I begin to sweat, and sometimes I get edgy when I see blood.  However, I've also started college and started a new career.  

For me, the world didn't end.  It began.  I even started visiting ARFCOM again...lol
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 4:07:04 PM EDT
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Note this guy had a bad experience with Paxil and did not ask what the side effects of his new choice was.... It is pathetic.

But we should apply the mantra of ARFCOM here.... Zoloft or Prozac.

GET BOTH!!!


It is BEYOND all rational thinking and this jewel of collosal ignorance needs to see a competent Psychatrist to figure out the obviously DEEPER underlying problems. Problems that it would make this individual seek out a magic pill on the Internets after his last one failed him.



Read the whole thread junior!
I have no underlying problems, and to be clear my Dr. became my friend after the diagnosis....then he moved so now I am in between Dr.'s and have been getting some surgeon friends to do my scripts.





Don't have a panic attack pocahantas. I read the thread and think you are not doing yourself any favors..... I am glad to see that you have random "panic attacks" for absolutley no reason at all and that all you need is some magic pill you saw on the moving picture box with all those happy blobs....

Do you even CARE to try to figure out what sparks those attacks or are happy pills all you need?

I think its great that you have a surgeon "friend" "doin your scripts" I am sure that they are REEEEELY helping you out.




                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                             Your an ass. Now you must mock his panic attacks? Real classy. Panic attacks sometimes DO occur randomly for no reason at all, that is the problem. So, once again you don't know what your talking about.





Link Posted: 9/26/2005 4:23:00 PM EDT
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Blah, blah, blah..



                                                                                                                                                                   Your an ass. Now you must mock his panic attacks? Real classy. Panic attacks sometimes DO occur randomly for no reason at all, that is the problem. So, once again you don't know what your talking about.




Well said.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 4:24:07 PM EDT
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my other huge qualm about paxil, I could go like a pornstar and never get the happy ending

UNACCEPTABLE



I had the same prob. I stopped ASAP.
Link Posted: 9/26/2005 4:54:02 PM EDT
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Unreal. Give this WaWaTuSi FOOL a real knock down spontaneous panic attack from no where and he'd be wimpering dog under the bed. Lack of knowledge can kill you or fk you up.
So learn something today or go bitch cause you just like to in some other board.

ETA: Ive seen these attacks send people to ER. Ive seen panic disease strike some of the most strong willed and successful people at ANY time in their lives. If you want a rather tough
statement, my brother has said it would be easier to lose one of his sons than go through a year of uncontrolled panic attacks again of which both he and I have.
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 6:19:34 AM EDT
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Unreal. Give this WaWaTuSi FOOL a real knock down spontaneous panic attack from no where and he'd be wimpering dog under the bed. Lack of knowledge can kill you or fk you up.So learn something today or go bitch cause you just like to in some other board.




Thats funny. I offered my opinion and I am bitching.... That's rich.....  But you did hit it right on the head in the highlited red. Using knowledge from a gun board about wich anti-depressant you should take and how to detox from paxil just might kill you.



ETA: Ive seen these attacks send people to ER. Ive seen panic disease strike some of the most strong willed and successful people at ANY time in their lives. If you want a rather tough
statement, my brother has said it would be easier to lose one of his sons than go through a year of uncontrolled panic attacks again of which both he and I have.





I understand the venom coming from those who have panic attacks towards me. Really I do. But ask yourself would you self medicate and ask a gun board for medical advice?

Fact remains that this country is over medicated and many don't need the treatments pushed on us during monday night football commercials. And if you do need the medication the LAST thing you should be doing is taking it unmonitored and getting advice from an Internets forum.


This very thread demonstrates the lack of respect that we as a society give to these mind altering drugs....



I have said my peace here..... I apologize if I hurt anyones feeling. I wish you all good mental health....




Link Posted: 9/27/2005 6:30:32 AM EDT
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I am master of all that is paxil.  I haven't read thread yet too busy now but will report back when i can.  That said, I'm almost done with Paxil.  Long story, of course.  You'll get it all later!
Link Posted: 9/27/2005 8:47:56 AM EDT
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Fact remains that this country is over medicated and many don't need the treatments pushed on us during monday night football commercials. And if you do need the medication the LAST thing you should be doing is taking it unmonitored and getting advice from an Internets forum.


This very thread demonstrates the lack of respect that we as a society give to these mind altering drugs....



I dont disagree with your point that many people are over medicated in this pharmaceutical
dominating empire. I dont think this thread demonstrates anything, in fact I think it is an individual expression of personal experiences of which some knowledge might be imparted to others looking for help/ answers. As a disclaimer-anything one reads /hears should be discussed with a Doctor/Psychiatrist.

Mind atering drugs is a poor choice of words in these situations. SSRI's are not mind altering as I understand the definition. This class of drugs act to correct or ameliorate symptoms of a psychological condition caused by chemical imbalance abnormalities. When one uses the term mind altering; the way I understand this expression is that these drugs alter perception and mood directly and quantitatively. They act not to correct the imbalance but rather to mask the symptoms temporarily. These drugs are often abused and over perscribed. Someone who's grown to like the feeling of being on diazapams will pull some of the smoothest acts to keep a perscription filled. Ever heard o a person on Wellbuterin trying to get extra from different pharmacies?

Overmedicated society is a reality, in part perpetuated by Docs who are short on time and lax on personal attention. Psychiatric diseases are as real as any physiological conditions. Social stigma is the barrier to understanding, accepting and helping these people. Some problems are complex be they psychological or other, and the trap of perscribing one med after another is an unfortunate consequence because arriving at the correct medication often involves some trial and error.

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