originally by legrue;While it wouldn't bother me to hammer it all out, I've already seen the scriptures you would quote.

Our problem will always be that we do not have the same basic understand of scripture and both of us are convinced our own understanding is correct.

I don't really know how to change that. How do I convince you I'm right when you want to do the same to me?

If you have an answer to that, let me know.

-regards,

legrue

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With a strong contingent of homosexuals.

Homosexuals are NOT born, they are recruited.

What better group to recruit than children??

What better place to find children than in a religious setting where parents teach their children to obey the "preacher?"

Its NOT really a "Catholic Church" problem. Its a problem in ANY religion that hasn't held to the Scriptural standard that homosexuality is SIN.

Not to mention SICK.

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But because Homo's are a Politically protected class in today's media culture they have intentionally ignored to focus on this aspect!  Along with certain minority groups they are portrayed only in positive ways and preferably as a special "victims group".

A case in point:

DO you guys remember all the media hype over the killing of a homosexual in Wyoming?  His name was Matthew Shepard.  For months they was constant media saturation and now a made for TV movie.

Compare that with the total media silence of a little boy in Rogers, Arkansas by the name of Jesse Dirkhising.  He was drugged, beaten, bound and gagged with his own underwear by 2 homo neighbors.  They repeatedly raped & tortured this little boy until he was DEAD!

There was NO coverage of this act by the national media.  It wound up in the media's Juanita Broaddrick round file!

The media is corrupt and will not expose the truth!

John  

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BTT just for that one!!

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Mostly becasue the texts I use are SELDOM mentioned by other Christians. Not to pat myself on the back, but many people that requested my 8 pg study that were of the same general opinion as you found my study quite thought provoking.

As a tease, I quite readily admit Christ NEVER condemned homosexuality. A fact MOST people who regard homosexuality as sin (as I do) are unwilling to admit.

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And why not? Jesus did all the time. Of course that was one of the points the Pharasees made against him. So do you side with Jesus or the Pharasees???

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I wish it was just priests doing this.  Then, at least we'd know where to look for the predators.  I spent a number of years as a therapist in the Child and Adolescent Program at a metro Atlanta Mental Health center,  and had to work with kids who'd been attacked by Baptist,Methodist and other Protestant clergy.  The former Rabbi of an Atlanta congregation, now up North, was recently arrested for attempting to seduce a young boy.

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The Great Scholar Atencio has spoken and we all [puke]!  Thanks for the wisdom Adicko! LMAO

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Until now, I had no idea that the church condoned gay priests.  That in it's self is a scandle.  There would be widespread support for a change whereby priests would be allowed to be married, and gay priests would be defrocked.

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[b]The RCC, as you call it, has told homosexuals that the only way they can live their lives as good Catholics is to be totally celibate.  Oh, and while they're at it, to shut up about their inclinations.[/b]
The Church rather believes the Hebrew Prophets and 12 Apostles were speaking for God when they wrote that men sodomizing each other is a grave evil.

[b]If they're going to be celibate, why not be priests?  It's not like they'd be missing anything, right?[/b]
One of the more interesting things about this scandal is the notion now being bantied about by psychologists is thatsexual attraction for children is a dissorder that cannot be cured or "treated". This has been an argument of homosexuals, that they cannot be "cured" or "treated", that is they cannot be "made straight". Using the first argument, a pedophile might say, "I was made this way, this is who I am and I cannot be made any other way." But even if that turns out to be true it is still sick and depraved. In the same way, if in fact those who sodomize other men cannot be cured or treated, it does not mean that they are still not sick. It just means that it may be a sickness that cannot be cured.

[b]As far as the RCC's "conservative values", what, like gun control, union activism, and covering up sexual abuse??  They sound a lot like the "leftist media" that you claim to despise.[/b] The Catachism of the Catholic Church does not support any teaching of gun control. That is just a bunch of rather marxist American liberal Bishops bowing to their false god of wanting to be liked and popular with the American leftist elite.

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Attencio, here is my respone to your crazy ideas! [puke]  I think living in CA has gone to your head!  BTW, Attencio are you a homosexual?  

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What is the point to this post?
Is it that you are anti-Catholic?
Is it that you are anti-religion?
Who ever commits such a heinous crime should be
punished.
Are you this incensed about crimes that are committed by government officials? It happens every day more times than I care to think about.

Nick, I'm not anti religion or have anything against Catholics, but it seems like they (maybe YOU) turn their heads when these crimes are committed everyday "It happens every day" you say. BTW, your comparison of our government officials and priest are like comparing apples to oranges. We can expect the government officials to do some sort of dirty deeds, but should we expect a grown man who teaches God's word to rape a child and get away with it? NO!

So we should expect our government to kill innocent people? Maybe it will be your family someday. "It's only a dirty deed, no biggie. At least we arent buggering little boys." So in your own words death is not as serious as rape? You have no fricking clue. The Bishops probably diluted themselves with the same rationale. "It's a Priest, he asked God to forgive him. He's not like the gang banger heathen on the street, it was just a dirty deed" A crime is a crime, doesnt matter who it is.

Attencio, did I push a nerve? You're taking my post out of context. When I said govt. doing things wrong I meant lie or take a bribe. I didn't mean go rape a small child. You're the one who doesn't have a clue, read your post again! You're just another sheep in disguise.

1. The Great Scholar Atencio has spoken and we all ! Thanks for the wisdom Adicko! LMAO

2.Attencio, here is my respone to your crazy ideas!  I think living in CA has gone to your head! BTW, Attencio are you a homosexual?

3.Attencio, I have no use for people like you that try to take people's words out of context and then put a spin on them.

[b]Litany of sins[/b]

Speaking of unhealthy urges, last week the Catholic Church got their knickers in a knot because Bishop James McCarthy admitted he’d had sex with women. As opposed to what? Forced sex on children?

McCarthy’s admission became such a big scandal, he immediately resigned. Funny how church fathers look the other way when pedophilia and gay sex is involved, but not heterosexual sex. What’s that about?

Wake up and smell the scandal, fellas. Consensual adult sex - gay and straight - may be a sin in your eyes, but it’s not a crime in the eyes of the law.

Then it got even worse. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops actually announced they were scrapping the decision they’d made the week before to retain priests who’d abused only one child.

Call me strict, but I’ve got another idea: Call the cops and lock the bums up. If it’s good enough for Martha [Stewart -- referring to the alleged insider trading scandal], it’s good enough for predator priests.