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Link Posted: 1/16/2015 12:48:40 PM EDT
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Page 2 thinks that reality shows are totally real.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 12:50:02 PM EDT
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You call the bank
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:06:25 PM EDT
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My first plane was a repo 1964 C172.  Got it cheap because the guy knew they were coming and stripped the interior. Took me all summer to find new seats and trim on a high school budget. Loved that plane, though.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:12:24 PM EDT
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That shit is soooo fake.

Nobody just rushes up to an airplane, fires it up and takes off.

There is a lot of prep involved.
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Yup. As a lover of all things aviation I've tried to like that show... but it's just SOOOO bad (as in poorly acted) that I can't do it.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:22:04 PM EDT
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This show is dumber than the moon shiners. Have been involved in a repo of a B737 and a B727. No big deal. Sheriff and local Po Po, lawyer from the leasing company and pilots. And it's gone. You can't run a muck on any airport without being noticed and some one calling the cop's. Removing an airplane from some ones personal property without the cop's could put you in jail. Most of the crap they show is prearranged and scripted. Your not going to go in and fly an airplane out without all the proper paperwork from the FAA ( takes at least a week of kissing ass. No one wants to sign off on the paperwork) and show it on the tube if you wish to keep your license. Most of the time people just abandon in place just a matter of paying the bill's and getting it. The one's they show hiding it on there property is a joke. Who want's something you can't fly. At a point when a lot of money is involved you get charged with theft if you don't surrender the property.
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I've watched this show a few time under assumption that it is staged. The way you explained the process here is pretty much what I would guess as the being real.

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Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:22:08 PM EDT
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I saw one episode where they rented a hanger at the airport and moved the aircraft with a tug.

I would bet this is more likely than the get in and fly away scenario.

G. Gordon Liddy claims to have Repo'd an aircraft in Central America. I forget the particulars, but he said they waited till the guy flew in and left. They then removed the flight crew once the crew refueled the bird. His pilot took off and flew to another country with the snatch team aboard.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:25:06 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm just going to hop in a plane that maybe has been sitting for awhile and fly away without first checking the gas and doing a thorough preflight. Shits fake man
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 1:42:35 PM EDT
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I stayed up one night watching a bunch of these, yeah, some of it it is fake.

In reality, do you find something wrong with the aircraft every time you do a preflight check? I mean if I had to do mandatory maintenance on my truck every I wanted to drive it, I'd get another vehicle.

Or is preflight, simply that, verifying that everything works, and 90% of the time, it does?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:23:56 PM EDT
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I stayed up one night watching a bunch of these, yeah, some of it it is fake.

In reality, do you find something wrong with the aircraft every time you do a preflight check? I mean if I had to do mandatory maintenance on my truck every I wanted to drive it, I'd get another vehicle.

Or is preflight, simply that, verifying that everything works, and 90% of the time, it does?
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Yes, you should do a preflight inspection before every flight.  And yes, as long as you keep your maintenance up to date, everything is usually fine.  But sometimes you'll find a leaky oleo strut, water in the gas or a plugged fuel vent.  Maybe a burned out nav light.  That's why every aircraft I've ever owned (and probably every aircraft you can buy) comes with a preflight checklist that you should go through every time you open the hangar door.  Even if I think I have it memorized, I have that checklist in my hand before I strap myself in.

A few years ago, I took a friend of mine to pick up his plane and walked inside the hangar with him.  I was only on the ground ~20 minutes and almost skipped the preflight when I walked back out to fly home.  Turned out, someone had bumped my plane when taxiing by and dented the rudder enough to prevent it from moving through it's full range.  If I hadn't done the walk-around, I probably wouldn't have noticed before I took off.  May or may not have caused an issue in the air, but it was enough for me to skip the flight and get a ride back to my house while it was fixed.

Can't really compare it to a truck because a simple failure on your truck probably won't result in an emergency at 8k feet.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:27:12 PM EDT
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Someone not paying their bills isn't likely doing proper maintenance, or paying a lot/at all for someone else to do it.



You don't just jump into a plane like that and hope for the best.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:27:19 PM EDT
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I stayed up one night watching a bunch of these, yeah, some of it it is fake.



In reality, do you find something wrong with the aircraft every time you do a preflight check? I mean if I had to do mandatory maintenance on my truck every I wanted to drive it, I'd get another vehicle.



Or is preflight, simply that, verifying that everything works, and 90% of the time, it does?
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You can't pull over to the side of the road and stop like you can in your truck.



 
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:32:14 PM EDT
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I stayed up one night watching a bunch of these, yeah, some of it it is fake.

In reality, do you find something wrong with the aircraft every time you do a preflight check? I mean if I had to do mandatory maintenance on my truck every I wanted to drive it, I'd get another vehicle.

Or is preflight, simply that, verifying that everything works, and 90% of the time, it does?
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That's exactly what it is, and to look for any other hazard that may have been introduced during your absence from the aircraft. I once found a birds nest under the cowling on the exhaust manifold.
Comparing it to preflighting a car in apples to oranges. If your car quits running, catches fire (the birds nest) or generally shits the bed, you simply pull over and deal with the suck. If it happens in an plane, thats only the beginning and first level of the suck.

DRich also brings up a point, complacency kills. I don't care if its my first time up in an aircraft, or the 87th time this week, I use the checklists. I get crap from a lot of pilots for it, but it only takes a couple extra minutes to use them and compared to dealing with th FAA post fuck up, whats a couple of minutes?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:33:56 PM EDT
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I watch it . I am reminded of the guy near me who had a shootout with the repo man. The car repo guy was supposed to notify the sheriff , He failed to do so. Owner was not charged , repo guys did go home with the car. but they had bullet holes in the tow truck .
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IIRC, we had someone in Houston no billed for killing a tow truck driver in the middle of repoing his car. I just googled it--I did remember it, and it happens somewhat regularly.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:41:04 PM EDT
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I have mine parked on a treadmill and dare them to try and take it.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:41:56 PM EDT
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What I don't understand is if they're legally repossessing a plane (or car or boat, or whatever), why do they have to sneak around and steal it? Why don't they just get a cop to accompany them in and do away with the drama?

I guess the answer is that without drama there wouldn't be a show.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:42:53 PM EDT
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I stayed up one night watching a bunch of these, yeah, some of it it is fake.

In reality, do you find something wrong with the aircraft every time you do a preflight check? I mean if I had to do mandatory maintenance on my truck every I wanted to drive it, I'd get another vehicle.

Or is preflight, simply that, verifying that everything works, and 90% of the time, it does?
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 No, but that is the reason WHY you Preflight every time...to catch the shit that does go wrong..sometimes just because.    Ask John Denver how important doing a Preflight is.  It can be something as stupid as a Bird's nest in the wrong sport, or the Engine oil cap being loose...shit that in a car doesnt matter, but in an Aircraft can make your day REALLY Bad, REALLY Fast.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:44:25 PM EDT
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What I don't understand is if they're legally repossessing a plane (or car or boat, or whatever), why do they have to sneak around and steal it? Why don't they just get a cop to accompany them in and do away with the drama?

I guess the answer is that without drama there wouldn't be a show.
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If you own a tow company are you going to pay out of pocket for a police escort?
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:50:32 PM EDT
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Be a pilot and an actor..... some of those are pretty far fetched.
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I wonder how one can get in this business. Seems like it would be fun and pays well.


Be a pilot and an actor..... some of those are pretty far fetched.


No doubt. I'd be willing to guess most all of them are staged.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:54:03 PM EDT
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My first plane was a repo 1964 C172.  Got it cheap because the guy knew they were coming and stripped the interior. Took me all summer to find new seats and trim on a high school budget. Loved that plane, though.
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The credit companies should track dick moves like purposely destroying property as a separate line in credit reports.  That guy should have had to pay 20% for the rest of his life to find a lender willing to put up with that shit.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 2:54:27 PM EDT
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If you own a tow company are you going to pay out of pocket for a police escort?
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What I don't understand is if they're legally repossessing a plane (or car or boat, or whatever), why do they have to sneak around and steal it? Why don't they just get a cop to accompany them in and do away with the drama?

I guess the answer is that without drama there wouldn't be a show.

If you own a tow company are you going to pay out of pocket for a police escort?


Hell yes, if it keeps me from being needlessly arrested or even shot. Hell yes.

An off-duty cop will cost maybe $50 for an hour's work, and these airplane guys are making tens of thousands per repo.
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 3:00:39 PM EDT
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Hell yes, if it keeps me from being needlessly arrested or even shot. Hell yes.

An off-duty cop will cost maybe $50 for an hour's work, and these airplane guys are making tens of thousands per repo.
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What I don't understand is if they're legally repossessing a plane (or car or boat, or whatever), why do they have to sneak around and steal it? Why don't they just get a cop to accompany them in and do away with the drama?

I guess the answer is that without drama there wouldn't be a show.

If you own a tow company are you going to pay out of pocket for a police escort?


Hell yes, if it keeps me from being needlessly arrested or even shot. Hell yes.

An off-duty cop will cost maybe $50 for an hour's work, and these airplane guys are making tens of thousands per repo.

 Hell, Most of the Repo guys around us were ALWAYS good about stopping by and dropping off a copy of the order, and letting us know where they were gonna be...if it was someone we thought would be a problem, and we had someone available, we'd just send them to stand by.....about the only local Repo guy who DIDNT was the one i mentioned earlier who was also a car theif
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 3:02:36 PM EDT
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Four episodes was enough before I went click. Only an idiot would believe 90% of it
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 3:03:50 PM EDT
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I'm watching Airplane Repo on the Discovery Channel and Kevin Lacey is at an airport he has a restraining order at due to an issue with repossessing an air plane earlier.

Anyway the air port was having an air show and he used that as a cover to look at this plane he was to repo. He runs into the air port manager, and she knew what plane they were after, because the owner hadn't paid them for 6 months of hanger rentals. So, she ends up helping him.

As she walks away he says we need to do this fast because I don't trust her any more than the guy I the White House.

I wonder how one can get in this business. Seems like it would be fun and pays well.
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in red//  why would the hanger not hold the plane until its paid or it gets sold  like a storage unit?  

cause of the lien  ?

Link Posted: 1/16/2015 3:27:23 PM EDT
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I don't ever really get worked up about TV shows being real/fake..it is what it is.. entertainment not an education. That said I like the show, will turn it on when I'm up late. And airport manager turned Kevins assistant is pretty easy on the eyes...
Link Posted: 1/16/2015 5:55:40 PM EDT
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ETA: also, really pilots who steal repossessed planes back?? I don't believe that shit for a second. great way to land your ass in jail and loose your license.
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Remind me to tighten my license.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:34:17 AM EDT
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 Hell, Most of the Repo guys around us were ALWAYS good about stopping by and dropping off a copy of the order, and letting us know where they were gonna be...if it was someone we thought would be a problem, and we had someone available, we'd just send them to stand by.....about the only local Repo guy who DIDNT was the one i mentioned earlier who was also a car theif
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What I don't understand is if they're legally repossessing a plane (or car or boat, or whatever), why do they have to sneak around and steal it? Why don't they just get a cop to accompany them in and do away with the drama?

I guess the answer is that without drama there wouldn't be a show.

If you own a tow company are you going to pay out of pocket for a police escort?


Hell yes, if it keeps me from being needlessly arrested or even shot. Hell yes.

An off-duty cop will cost maybe $50 for an hour's work, and these airplane guys are making tens of thousands per repo.

 Hell, Most of the Repo guys around us were ALWAYS good about stopping by and dropping off a copy of the order, and letting us know where they were gonna be...if it was someone we thought would be a problem, and we had someone available, we'd just send them to stand by.....about the only local Repo guy who DIDNT was the one i mentioned earlier who was also a car theif


If I thought I was gonna have 1 second of trouble with a repo, I called the cops. I was there to get a plane for the bank- the primary lien-holder. If the FBO or airport had an issue with money owed them, they could take it up with soon-to-be former owner. Never once had a problem.

As far as making 10's of 1000's of dollars goes, maybe IRG did, but I sure as fuck didn't.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 10:50:45 AM EDT
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I'm convinced with my background I'd be a good airplane repo'r but that show is just completely full of shit.

My wife tells me it's "Teen Mom" for pilots.
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 11:05:14 AM EDT
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I'm convinced with my background I'd be a good airplane repo'r but that show is just completely full of shit.

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I was going to use "Big Giant Swords"........but her analogy is better
Link Posted: 1/17/2015 11:32:14 AM EDT
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I guarantee its nothing like the show portrays it.  No way in hell.  Alot of thought would have to be put into it.

First off, one would have to go over the logbooks of the aircraft.  After review of the logbooks,  let's say the plane is past due for an annual inspection.  Then, you must do a little ass kissing to the FAA to get ferry permit.  If something is seriously wrong, it would have to be fixed.

Then, you'd have to find a pilot with the appropriate ratings. Is it a twin engine, retractable gear, tail dragger?  The pilot must be rated for it.  Much less if the aircraft weighs more than 12,500 lbs.  The pilot has to be type rated for that specific aircraft.  

It would definitely  take some thought and planning.
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