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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:33:52 AM EDT
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The kid murdered 4 innocent people and got sentenced to meaningless probation. So yeah it did kinda make them bullet proof  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews The kid murdered 4 innocent people and got sentenced to meaningless probation. So yeah it did kinda make them bullet proof eh, what is the legal definition between murder and manslaughter. Don't agree with the penalty but the charge should matter. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm ETA: By charge, I don't want to be driving the spare car that my friend loaned me because mine is in the shop and we help eachother, then get charged with grand theft. Not the same situation but you can see what not following the legal definitions could lead to. ie, you really don't want to leave it up to mob rule or the guy pulling you over to decide your fate. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:38:10 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:39:12 AM EDT
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eh, what is the legal definition between murder and manslaughter. Don't agree with the penalty but the charge should matter. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews The kid murdered 4 innocent people and got sentenced to meaningless probation. So yeah it did kinda make them bullet proof eh, what is the legal definition between murder and manslaughter. Don't agree with the penalty but the charge should matter. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm I believe he is looking at 40 years in the adult system, theoretically of course. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:41:38 AM EDT
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews Sales <> net income |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:43:05 AM EDT
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The kid murdered 4 innocent people and got sentenced to meaningless probation. So yeah it did kinda make them bullet proof bullet resistance depends on more than money. What do you do with the money? How politically active are they? How connected? Do they have picks of some one fucking a goat? I was eating dinner with a politico in a nice restaurant and he offered me a drink. I declined, citing the fact I was the driver for this little excursion. He asked, "Where are we?" I reminded him and he replied without hesitation, "Aw hell, I can get you off for a DUI here." He wasn't rich, but he was connected. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:45:47 AM EDT
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I sold 10mil worth of Electrical work in 2015. I get to keep 1.5% of it and the company gets the rest. After all the BS they clear 4 of the 10 I sold. I think some businesses make even less. I.E. Sell 10 mil to keep 400k. Either way I wouldn't consider 15mil afluenzic unless they were clearing 15 mil a year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews I sold 10mil worth of Electrical work in 2015. I get to keep 1.5% of it and the company gets the rest. After all the BS they clear 4 of the 10 I sold. I think some businesses make even less. I.E. Sell 10 mil to keep 400k. Either way I wouldn't consider 15mil afluenzic unless they were clearing 15 mil a year. All depends on the businesses. The.company I'm with will probably cash flow 200m or so this year. A large percentage (diesel fuel / gasoline) we make pennies on. So cash flow =/= profit. Alot of work for little return. Flip side, if he was running a hedge fund clearing 15m a year net. That's significant. Every business is different. But even at 15m a year net, that's not enough to buy your way out in my opinion. Edit: bigger the business bigger the headaches too. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:47:05 AM EDT
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I believe he is looking at 40 years in the adult system, theoretically of course. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews The kid murdered 4 innocent people and got sentenced to meaningless probation. So yeah it did kinda make them bullet proof eh, what is the legal definition between murder and manslaughter. Don't agree with the penalty but the charge should matter. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.19.htm I believe he is looking at 40 years in the adult system, theoretically of course. How could they try (trial?) you once, convict, give sentence, then when you hit a certain age.. scratch that, life. Not a lawyer, don't want to get intertwined in the dog pile, just curious where that comes from. (I did add an edit after you posted) |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:49:18 AM EDT
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews The roofing company I used to work for did 25-30 million a year every year and my boss had money but wasn't filthy rich. I know a guy that has an aviation business where Fred Couch had a small airplane. He had to call every month and threaten Fred if he didn't pay his bills. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:55:34 AM EDT
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They said if he is moved over to adult court now the max he would serve is 120 days and serve the rest of his 8 years left of probation. If he screws up again in adult court then they could possibly make him serve 10 years for each death. Total of 40 years.
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:18:30 AM EDT
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Some people need... Killin' was what I was going for, but that'll work. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 5:58:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My father just reviewed his car insurance and realized he has only $25k coverage for vehicle damage per whatever, he was like  "most new trucks and cars are well over $25k and some are rapidly going to $50k with options on those dozer things..." He is going to up his coverage. He is also going to get another umbrella since mom let the other one lapse.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Insurance covered the settlements. Their rates may have gone up a hair. Basically the same for cities and state governments. Only suckers pay from their own accounts. Pass the costs onto the tax payer or end customers.  My father just reviewed his car insurance and realized he has only $25k coverage for vehicle damage per whatever, he was like "most new trucks and cars are well over $25k and some are rapidly going to $50k with options on those dozer things..." He is going to up his coverage. He is also going to get another umbrella since mom let the other one lapse. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 6:17:31 AM EDT
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You obviously have no clue as to how fucked up our legal system is.........I deal with it everyday, it's disgusting beyond words.   That's why its a legal system and not a justice system, so they say.
The pic of the twerp arrested in Mexico -- anyone else just want to backhand slap the shit out of him? Not punch. But just slap him so had that his face is into two different dimensions. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 6:41:48 AM EDT
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What kinda of shit is that? What's the purpose of probabation if there are no repercussions for breaking it? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh my what they're going to do to them in Texas prisons. You talk about Princess Brides. Kid is supposed to me looking at zero extra time. Mama could get 10 years. What kinda of shit is that? What's the purpose of probabation if there are no repercussions for breaking it? If the guilty all went to jail, who would pay the defense attorneys? Our justice system is a racket, *especially* where DUI is concerned (in SC anyway). |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:18:54 PM EDT
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All depends on the businesses. The.company I'm with will probably cash flow 200m or so this year. A large percentage (diesel fuel / gasoline) we make pennies on. So cash flow =/= profit. Alot of work for little return. Flip side, if he was running a hedge fund clearing 15m a year net. That's significant. Every business is different. But even at 15m a year net, that's not enough to buy your way out in my opinion. Edit: bigger the business bigger the headaches too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews I sold 10mil worth of Electrical work in 2015. I get to keep 1.5% of it and the company gets the rest. After all the BS they clear 4 of the 10 I sold. I think some businesses make even less. I.E. Sell 10 mil to keep 400k. Either way I wouldn't consider 15mil afluenzic unless they were clearing 15 mil a year. All depends on the businesses. The.company I'm with will probably cash flow 200m or so this year. A large percentage (diesel fuel / gasoline) we make pennies on. So cash flow =/= profit. Alot of work for little return. Flip side, if he was running a hedge fund clearing 15m a year net. That's significant. Every business is different. But even at 15m a year net, that's not enough to buy your way out in my opinion. Edit: bigger the business bigger the headaches too. Fwiw, hedge funds to by the 2&20 fee structure. 2% management fee on assets and then a 20% participationnrate above a certain level of returns. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 12:57:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:01:47 PM EDT
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Zero fucks given
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:04:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love to own a $15 million a year business, but that isn't enough to make you bulletproof like these 'tards seem to think they are. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews  |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:15:28 PM EDT
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Just a note, it was mentioned on the radio this morning that the little shit went to a private rehab clinic as part of his sentence, mom and dad ponied up $350K for that country club atmosphere.
They also settled with 6 civil suits and have two more pending plus mom's legal bills are about to start with a vengeance. If the parents are not living on credit at the moment they are damn close to it. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:23:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2015 1:30:13 PM EDT
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That's why its a legal system and not a justice system, so they say.
The pic of the twerp arrested in Mexico -- anyone else just want to backhand slap the shit out of him? Not punch. But just slap him so had that his face is into two different dimensions. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You obviously have no clue as to how fucked up our legal system is.........I deal with it everyday, it's disgusting beyond words. That's why its a legal system and not a justice system, so they say.
The pic of the twerp arrested in Mexico -- anyone else just want to backhand slap the shit out of him? Not punch. But just slap him so had that his face is into two different dimensions. I am with you dude . The look on that brat face makes me just want to hurt him! 
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:16:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: High Velocity Intracranial Lead Injection Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Some people need... High Velocity Intracranial Lead Injection |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:25:23 PM EDT
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A business can have a gazillion dollars in sales and still lose money. Sales doesn't mean retained earnings.
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews
Nor does a paper loss really equate losing money. Most businesses I look at don't make much, if any, money on paper yet somehow they can still afford their million dollar home and $1K+ monthly car payments. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:32:44 PM EDT
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I sold 10mil worth of Electrical work in 2015. I get to keep 1.5% of it and the company gets the rest. After all the BS they clear 4 of the 10 I sold. I think some businesses make even less. I.E. Sell 10 mil to keep 400k. Either way I wouldn't consider 15mil afluenzic unless they were clearing 15 mil a year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Dad owns Cleburne Sheet Metal in Fort Worth, TX They are supposed to have about 15 Million in sales a year, so they can replenish the funds. Maybe if people stop doing business with them they would get the picture. Both Parents had run ins with the law before, and big surprise always just payed it off.... Read the reviews I sold 10mil worth of Electrical work in 2015. I get to keep 1.5% of it and the company gets the rest. After all the BS they clear 4 of the 10 I sold. I think some businesses make even less. I.E. Sell 10 mil to keep 400k. Either way I wouldn't consider 15mil afluenzic unless they were clearing 15 mil a year. From what I saw I think they actually make siding and metal roofing. Thats manufacturing margins, not service margins. They probably clear 1.5 million or a little more before they pay the bank. In my industry (commercial equipment service) you make about 500k net profit on 10 million gross. Usually the bank payments are 4-600k out of that 500k. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:44:14 PM EDT
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$25k liability? What fucking state has that low of a required liability policy? I carry a million on my regular personal cars and 2 mil on my work rigs. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Insurance covered the settlements. Their rates may have gone up a hair. Basically the same for cities and state governments. Only suckers pay from their own accounts. Pass the costs onto the tax payer or end customers. My father just reviewed his car insurance and realized he has only $25k coverage for vehicle damage per whatever, he was like "most new trucks and cars are well over $25k and some are rapidly going to $50k with options on those dozer things..." He is going to up his coverage. He is also going to get another umbrella since mom let the other one lapse.
That is just damage to another vehicle per incident for a total of. That does not cover injuries, underinsured, uninsured motors, property damage, etc. |
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Posted: 12/31/2015 2:55:19 PM EDT
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If they had "real" money, they would've made it to a non extradition country. Fleeing to Mexico is sooooo trailer park.
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Posted: 12/31/2015 3:04:36 PM EDT
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Karma is preparing to wreck them.
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Posted: 12/31/2015 3:49:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/31/2015 3:53:29 PM EDT
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That is just damage to another vehicle per incident for a total of. That does not cover injuries, underinsured, uninsured motors, property damage, etc. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Insurance covered the settlements. Their rates may have gone up a hair. Basically the same for cities and state governments. Only suckers pay from their own accounts. Pass the costs onto the tax payer or end customers. My father just reviewed his car insurance and realized he has only $25k coverage for vehicle damage per whatever, he was like "most new trucks and cars are well over $25k and some are rapidly going to $50k with options on those dozer things..." He is going to up his coverage. He is also going to get another umbrella since mom let the other one lapse.
That is just damage to another vehicle per incident for a total of. That does not cover injuries, underinsured, uninsured motors, property damage, etc. In Ark (and many other states) its 25/50/25k. That corresponds 25kper-person/50kPer-accident/25kProperty damage. |
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