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Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:15:42 PM EDT
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Why don't they just walk through DC with a bunch of "Hi-Cap mags"

That's violating DC firearm laws, but when a person in the media gets a pass, let's see how they handle the citizenry


You can't shoot back with high cap mags.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:16:19 PM EDT
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If he is trying to force LE to decide which side they are on in a public manner he is in for some serious disappointment, D.C., NYC, anywhere in CA. etc are the exact wrong places for that..  I wish those who can and do  show up luck.  But one jumpy thug with A badge or an infiltrator in the march and this will get bloody fast.




He is a Communist Cunt




How do you go from Libertarian verging on Anarchist to communist???  You do realize the left wing Chomsky-ite agitators are not real Anarchist right?



Simple concept to understand a real Libertarian or Anarchist adheres to the Non-Aggression Principle.  You will not find them at an Occupy event unless they are counter-protesting..





I think his political thought is anyone who does not vote R every time is a commie.

 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:17:12 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


He's well liked by the Stormfront crowd.


and thats all I need to know about him.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:17:40 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:17:59 PM EDT
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While I believe Alex is a ridiculous twat. Kokesh is a cunt of the highest order, Hell he works with RT. Nuf said. Stop being a lemming.


I have seen him on a lot of different shows, just because he doesn't whore himself out to only Fox should not discredit what he has to say.  




As long as he whores himself out to Putin and mentions IlluminatyBilderbergerMilitaryIndustiallizardmen in black helicopters you're good?
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:18:45 PM EDT
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Which is strange, because of his Jewish (IIRC) heritage.

SF guys are very stupid and confused people, so their "endorsement", if you want to call it that, doesn't really affect my opinion on the man.

Personally, I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't find myself agreeing with him on many things, and I just think he's a bit of a drama queen.

He doesn't endorse SF.  Its a non point.  

SF could endorse Rubio for 2016.


That's the point I was making. Stormfront's endorsements don't make any difference to me. They have a long established history of being some of the stupidest people on the internet.

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:19:28 PM EDT
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If he is trying to force LE to decide which side they are on in a public manner he is in for some serious disappointment, D.C., NYC, anywhere in CA. etc are the exact wrong places for that..  I wish those who can and do  show up luck.  But one jumpy thug with A badge or an infiltrator in the march and this will get bloody fast.


He is a Communist Cunt


How do you go from Libertarian verging on Anarchist to communist???  You do realize the left wing Chomsky-ite agitators are not real Anarchist right?

Simple concept to understand a real Libertarian or Anarchist adheres to the Non-Aggression Principle.  You will not find them at an Occupy event unless they are counter-protesting..


I think his political thought is anyone who does not vote R every time is a commie.  

Nope fuckers who work for Putn are.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:20:05 PM EDT
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Couple of tards right there...

Indeed.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:20:12 PM EDT
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Why don't they just walk through DC with a bunch of "Hi-Cap mags"

That's violating DC firearm laws, but when a person in the media gets a pass, let's see how they handle the citizenry


You can't shoot back with high cap mags.


Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:20:28 PM EDT
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As long as he whores himself out to Putin and mentions IlluminatyBilderbergerMilitaryIndustiallizardmen in black helicopters you're good?




He is just getting paid.



Just like I work for a union.  I hate unions with a passion, yet at the end of the day, I feel dirty about it.




He has a message and needs a platform and check to spread it, why not use it.










 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:20:53 PM EDT
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If he is trying to force LE to decide which side they are on in a public manner he is in for some serious disappointment, D.C., NYC, anywhere in CA. etc are the exact wrong places for that..  I wish those who can and do  show up luck.  But one jumpy thug with A badge or an infiltrator in the march and this will get bloody fast.


He is a Communist Cunt


How do you go from Libertarian verging on Anarchist to communist???  You do realize the left wing Chomsky-ite agitators are not real Anarchist right?

Simple concept to understand a real Libertarian or Anarchist adheres to the Non-Aggression Principle.  You will not find them at an Occupy event unless they are counter-protesting..


I think his political thought is anyone who does not vote R every time is a commie.  


I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:21:22 PM EDT
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Nope fuckers who work for Putn are.


C'mon man, give him a break. I'm sure he tried to get on with Al Jazeera first.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:22:32 PM EDT
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.





Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".

 



Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:24:01 PM EDT
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.


Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".  

Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?


The problem with anarchy is that it's entire premise is based upon incorrect assumptions about the nature of man.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:25:05 PM EDT
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I actually did watch it.

What did you think of Kokesh's plan?
Do you think it will make it out of VA?
Does it have a negative or positive outcome for us?



I don't think his plan will accomplish much of anything.

He says he will coordinate with local law enforcement, but you know that isn't going to happen in DC. If he sticks to the "we'll turn back when we encounter resistance" he won't make it out of VA.

I don't they will either.  But I think he is more or less trying to make a statement.  I can respect what Kokesh is trying to do.  He makes a lot of good points.

 I know most here do not like him, but he makes a lot of sense on things.  

When they are turned down and go back, the media will try to spin it, but how will the media attention be received with the people in the middle is the question.

 



You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

-Morpheus
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:27:44 PM EDT
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I still support this we have rights he is choosing to exercise his rights.

If they all get arrested on the bridge so be it hope he goes out saying see the violence inherent in the system help help I'm being repressed.

I pray that not one shot is fired and it is the safest most peaceful effective protest ever conducted.

I've never had much faith in praying for anything.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:28:51 PM EDT
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.





Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".  



Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?




The problem with anarchy is that it's entire premise is based upon incorrect assumptions about the nature of man.


But when those nature of man are put in position of power by simply being elected by appealing to a simple majority, not by working his way to where he is, how is that person supposed to maximize efficiency?

 



Its like promoting your cousin Ned who has an IQ of 80 to run your business.  Sure everyone loves the goofy bastard, but he wouldn't have the skills to maximize the potential of the company. (See Joe Biden for an example)
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:30:01 PM EDT
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*insert knee jerk response here*

I can't watch it, cliff notes pls?
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:30:34 PM EDT
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.


Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".  

Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?


The problem with anarchy is that it's entire premise is based upon incorrect assumptions about the nature of man.


95% of what you do in your day to day life is voluntary, do you really need your owners and masters meddling in the rest?  There will always be natural law, certain behaviors will get you shot or dead by other means in short order.



Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:32:48 PM EDT
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*insert knee jerk response here*



I can't watch it, cliff notes pls?


Kokesh:

 



Coordinate with DC police, if not allowed out of Virginia, will prove a point that DC does not welcome Free People.




Its a moral victory for liberty either way.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:33:58 PM EDT
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I actually did watch it.

What did you think of Kokesh's plan?
Do you think it will make it out of VA?
Does it have a negative or positive outcome for us?



I don't think his plan will accomplish much of anything.

He says he will coordinate with local law enforcement, but you know that isn't going to happen in DC. If he sticks to the "we'll turn back when we encounter resistance" he won't make it out of VA.

I don't they will either.  But I think he is more or less trying to make a statement.  I can respect what Kokesh is trying to do.  He makes a lot of good points.

 I know most here do not like him, but he makes a lot of sense on things.  

When they are turned down and go back, the media will try to spin it, but how will the media attention be received with the people in the middle is the question.

 



You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

-Morpheus


Lol, there's that 13'er talk again.

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:34:19 PM EDT
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*insert knee jerk response here*

I can't watch it, cliff notes pls?

Kokesh:  

Coordinate with DC police, if not allowed out of Virginia, will prove a point that DC does not welcome Free People.

Its a moral victory for liberty either way.


Thank you.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:37:38 PM EDT
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While I believe Alex is a ridiculous twat. Kokesh is a cunt of the highest order, Hell he works with RT. Nuf said. Stop being a lemming.


I have seen him on a lot of different shows, just because he doesn't whore himself out to only Fox should not discredit what he has to say.  




No, but allying yourself with Code Pink sure as shit discredits what you have to say.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:38:46 PM EDT
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You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.



-Morpheus


That would apply here.

 



Same for the "Who will build the roads" people. The same people will be building the roads, we ain't planning on taking them out back and shooting them.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:42:29 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


2 words for you: Agent Provocateur.

Apparently some of y'all forgot that this was tried before back in the early 90's. What was that bitch's name? Linda Thompson or something along that line. Hardcore lefty suddenly turned progun and tried to organize an armed march back then,too.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:45:46 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!




2 words for you: Agent Provocateur.



Apparently some of y'all forgot that this was tried before back in the early 90's. What was that bitch's name? Linda Thompson or something along that line. Hardcore lefty suddenly turned progun and tried to organize an armed march back then,too.




Maybe I respect Kokesh a bit, and don't believe he is a "Double Agent".



He talks to Judge Andrew P Napolitano from time to time, and I think the good Judge would be able to sniff him out as not for who he says he is.






 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:45:57 PM EDT
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Also the large man holding the red and white flag in the same photo is an ancestor of one of the men who fought in Lexington and Concord.


So let's see, he was born sometime around 1740?

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:48:07 PM EDT
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Also the large man holding the red and white flag in the same photo is an ancestor of one of the men who fought in Lexington and Concord.




So let's see, he was born sometime around 1740?





I don't think that word means what you think it means.

 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:49:33 PM EDT
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Does it have a negative or positive outcome for us?





Negative.
 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:49:45 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


2 words for you: Agent Provocateur.

Apparently some of y'all forgot that this was tried before back in the early 90's. What was that bitch's name? Linda Thompson or something along that line. Hardcore lefty suddenly turned progun and tried to organize an armed march back then,too.


Look at his history.  There isn't anything I can find that leads me to believe he's a lefty trying to stir stuff up.  In fact, his history does nothing but support his stance today.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:53:51 PM EDT
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.


Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".  

Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?


The problem with anarchy is that it's entire premise is based upon incorrect assumptions about the nature of man.


95% of what you do in your day to day life is voluntary, do you really need your owners and masters meddling in the rest?  There will always be natural law, certain behaviors will get you shot or dead by other means in short order.





The power vacuum inherent with anarchy will be filled.

Limited government, MUCH smaller and less involved than our current .gov, is much superior to anarchy.

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:54:11 PM EDT
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so, you would rather go from internet bitching to shooting or would you want to try to fight peacefully first?



 




People who think guys like Alex Jones and Adam Kokesh are going to help our cause by staging an armed march in DC are fooling themselves.



Oh, come on.  It worked for the Bonus Army, right?





 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:55:32 PM EDT
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Ignoring who is hosting this demonstration  and just looking at it for what it is; I'm sorry but I just can't see a positive result from this. I understand what he is saying but approaching it in this manner is silly for the cause he tries to portray. Help me out here, let's run through a few of scenarios.



1) They meet in Virginia armed with loaded rifles. They try to cross the bridge and are met by police. They retreat to VA and have the rally there. So what did this prove? Another soon to be forgotten demonstration? Is anything positive to his cause with this outcome?




2) They cross the bridge and are mt by police who escort them on their journey, all the way through DC with their loaded rifles and they march right back to VA. What did this prove? This is the worst outcome for his cause and the one that the police should take in my opinion.




3) They try to cross the bridge and police start arresting them which they would have the right to do if they are upholding the law, even though the law is unconstitutional and I realize that is his point. Shots are fired and people start dropping..... Worst outcome yet for everyone, especially gun owners.




I'm just not seeing this in any kind of a positive light, maybe I am not thinking straight.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 2:58:45 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!




He's well liked by the Stormfront crowd.




Which is strange, because of his Jewish (IIRC) heritage.



SF guys are very stupid and confused people, so their "endorsement", if you want to call it that, doesn't really affect my opinion on the man.



Personally, I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't find myself agreeing with him on many things, and I just think he's a bit of a drama queen.
Stormfront is pretty much just a David Duke fan club.  It's like watching Sesame Street compared to some of the hard-core 88 sites/publications.





 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:00:34 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


2 words for you: Agent Provocateur.

Apparently some of y'all forgot that this was tried before back in the early 90's. What was that bitch's name? Linda Thompson or something along that line. Hardcore lefty suddenly turned progun and tried to organize an armed march back then,too.


Look at his history.  There isn't anything I can find that leads me to believe he's a lefty trying to stir stuff up.  In fact, his history does nothing but support his stance today.


From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kokesh

On May 28, 2011, Kokesh and other activists participated in a flash mob-silent dance at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C. in protest of a recent ruling against dancing in the monument; the activists were arrested by force.[24] A much larger protest the following Saturday, June 4, 2011, organized by Kokesh and Code Pink, involved about 200 protesters and 75 dancers


From American Thinker Blog

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/ron_pauls_poisonous_partisans.html

Some of Ron Paul's most avid (some say "rabid") supporters are not friends of America.  The Marxist group "Code Pink" are frequent and vociferous supporters of the good congressman, as are "Iraq Veterans against the War," a Soros-funded group that is sometimes violently opposed to any American intervention overseas, no matter how justified it may be.
Now, Rep. Paul cannot be held totally responsible for who attends his rallies and who organizes his Iowa Straw Poll effort, but the public should not be kept in the dark about who it is that has become so close to the congressman.

I first met one of the most visible of the Code Pink/IVAW crowd about three years when Gathering of Eagles, a pro-troop organization I nominally chair, organized a counter-demonstration against a protest planned by CP/IVAW in front of the U.S. Army Recruiting Station on 14th Street in Washington, D.C. They were, of course, shouting anti-Iraq War slogans and doing their best to offer photo ops and interviews to D.C.'s credulous media.  One young man in particular got my attention, as he seemed to be the "patrol leader" of the "military" element.

It turns out that this fellow, one Adam Kokesh, was indeed an Iraq veteran (a Marine) with a beef.  It is impossible to know when he turned against the Iraq War, but his passion was not diminished when he was "busted" for bringing a pistol to the States when he rotated home.

Even then his reputation could have emerged relatively unscathed had he cooperated with the USMC officer tasked to investigate his case.  Instead, he refused to cooperate and allegedly used the phrase "f*** you" when he addressed the officer.  That was when things went sour.

Within a matter of weeks Kokesh was demoted from Sergeant to Lance Corporal and was stripped of an award he had received for his Iraq service.  He was then given a "general discharge under honorable conditions," which was what his lawyer and the Marine legal beagles agreed to give him in lieu of a court-martial.

That sequence of events apparently convinced Kokesh to turn against "the establishment," as he obviously viewed it.  From that point on, it seemed that he was determined to be his generation's answer to Lieutenant John Kerry, who, as we all remember, was at the forefront of the anti-Vietnam War crowd alongside Jane Fonda, William Ayers, and the like.



So, being part of a Soros funded group, and allying yourself with Code Pink doesn't make you a leftist?

Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:00:55 PM EDT
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Ignoring who is hosting this demonstration  and just looking at it for what it is; I'm sorry but I just can't see a positive result from this. I understand what he is saying but approaching it in this manner is silly for the cause he tries to portray. Help me out here, let's run through a few of scenarios.

1) They meet in Virginia armed with loaded rifles. They try to cross the bridge and are met by police. They retreat to VA and have the rally there. So what did this prove? Another soon to be forgotten demonstration? Is anything positive to his cause with this outcome?

2) They cross the bridge and are mt by police who escort them on their journey, all the way through DC with their loaded rifles and they march right back to VA. What did this prove? This is the worst outcome for his cause and the one that the police should take in my opinion.

3) They try to cross the bridge and police start arresting them which they would have the right to do if they are upholding the law, even though the law is unconstitutional and I realize that is his point. Shots are fired and people start dropping..... Worst outcome yet for everyone, especially gun owners.

I'm just not seeing this in any kind of a positive light, maybe I am not thinking straight.


What he's doing is using the 2nd for it's intended purpose: to ensure the government fears the people and not the other way around.

In your examples;

1)  It's a win in that gun owners can show up, and nobody gets shot because we are peaceful people.
2)  It's a win because the police obviously failed to obey orders and arrested constitutionally protected activity.
3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.
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I will be the first to admit some supposed "Anarchists" should be greeted with a drawn weapon, they will normally be citing Noam Chomsky.  They are the very definition of useful idiots.


Anarchy simply means "with out rulers".  

Do we seriously need a Federal Government writing shit tons of new laws and regulations every fucking day?


The problem with anarchy is that it's entire premise is based upon incorrect assumptions about the nature of man.


95% of what you do in your day to day life is voluntary, do you really need your owners and masters meddling in the rest?  There will always be natural law, certain behaviors will get you shot or dead by other means in short order.





The power vacuum inherent with anarchy will be filled.

Limited government, MUCH smaller and less involved than our current .gov, is much superior to anarchy.




Because a population who could walk into a gunshop and buy weapon or piece of ordinance they could afford is going to let someone rule them,  Anyone seeking to consolidate power is going to be met with resistance.  Outfitting an army will be noticed.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:04:49 PM EDT
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No, but allying yourself with Code Pink sure as shit discredits what you have to say.


He was with Iraq Veterans Against War, which Code Pink may have protested something when they was there.



So if we are rallying against gun control, and storm front shows up, does that make us allies also?
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:05:53 PM EDT
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The power vacuum inherent with anarchy will be filled.



Limited government, MUCH smaller and less involved than our current .gov, is much superior to anarchy.





If something fills that void, the state of anarchy was caused by a dictator or oligarchy trying to cease control.

 


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No, but allying yourself with Code Pink sure as shit discredits what you have to say.

He was with Iraq Veterans Against War, which Code Pink may have protested something when they was there.

So if we are rallying against gun control, and storm front shows up, does that make us allies also?


If someone needs a reason to fuck up your day, any justification will do. Thats what malum prohibitum laws are for.
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:08:20 PM EDT
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so, you would rather go from internet bitching to shooting or would you want to try to fight peacefully first?

 


People who think guys like Alex Jones and Adam Kokesh are going to help our cause by staging an armed march in DC are fooling themselves.

Still I take it you did not watch to see what Kokesh had to say.

 


Of course he didn't.  Trolls never do...
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:10:30 PM EDT
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3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.


Is it a felony to carry a gun in D.C.?  Losing your gun rights in a Pyrrhic victory is a win?



Want to end up on the TSA no-fly list & be labelled a domestic terrorist?  Go march with Kokesh.



Right now, we are winning the gun rights debate by a slim margin.  This march will damage those efforts, no matter the outcome, in my opinion.



 
Link Posted: 5/8/2013 3:13:45 PM EDT
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


2 words for you: Agent Provocateur.

Apparently some of y'all forgot that this was tried before back in the early 90's. What was that bitch's name? Linda Thompson or something along that line. Hardcore lefty suddenly turned progun and tried to organize an armed march back then,too.


Look at his history.  There isn't anything I can find that leads me to believe he's a lefty trying to stir stuff up.  In fact, his history does nothing but support his stance today.


From Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Kokesh

On May 28, 2011, Kokesh and other activists participated in a flash mob-silent dance at the Thomas Jefferson Memorial in Washington, D.C. in protest of a recent ruling against dancing in the monument; the activists were arrested by force.[24] A much larger protest the following Saturday, June 4, 2011, organized by Kokesh and Code Pink, involved about 200 protesters and 75 dancers


From American Thinker Blog

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/ron_pauls_poisonous_partisans.html

Some of Ron Paul's most avid (some say "rabid") supporters are not friends of America.  The Marxist group "Code Pink" are frequent and vociferous supporters of the good congressman, as are "Iraq Veterans against the War," a Soros-funded group that is sometimes violently opposed to any American intervention overseas, no matter how justified it may be.
Now, Rep. Paul cannot be held totally responsible for who attends his rallies and who organizes his Iowa Straw Poll effort, but the public should not be kept in the dark about who it is that has become so close to the congressman.

I first met one of the most visible of the Code Pink/IVAW crowd about three years when Gathering of Eagles, a pro-troop organization I nominally chair, organized a counter-demonstration against a protest planned by CP/IVAW in front of the U.S. Army Recruiting Station on 14th Street in Washington, D.C. They were, of course, shouting anti-Iraq War slogans and doing their best to offer photo ops and interviews to D.C.'s credulous media.  One young man in particular got my attention, as he seemed to be the "patrol leader" of the "military" element.

It turns out that this fellow, one Adam Kokesh, was indeed an Iraq veteran (a Marine) with a beef.  It is impossible to know when he turned against the Iraq War, but his passion was not diminished when he was "busted" for bringing a pistol to the States when he rotated home.

Even then his reputation could have emerged relatively unscathed had he cooperated with the USMC officer tasked to investigate his case.  Instead, he refused to cooperate and allegedly used the phrase "f*** you" when he addressed the officer.  That was when things went sour.

Within a matter of weeks Kokesh was demoted from Sergeant to Lance Corporal and was stripped of an award he had received for his Iraq service.  He was then given a "general discharge under honorable conditions," which was what his lawyer and the Marine legal beagles agreed to give him in lieu of a court-martial.

That sequence of events apparently convinced Kokesh to turn against "the establishment," as he obviously viewed it.  From that point on, it seemed that he was determined to be his generation's answer to Lieutenant John Kerry, who, as we all remember, was at the forefront of the anti-Vietnam War crowd alongside Jane Fonda, William Ayers, and the like.



So, being part of a Soros funded group, and allying yourself with Code Pink doesn't make you a leftist?



It's hard to say if Kokesh actually worked together with them or if they just both happened to be there.

But lets say Kokesh worked together with Code Pink.

Wouldn't that be similar to our foreign policy for the last 65 years?  Allying with bad people, supporting bad people, giving money to bad people... the enemy of our enemy is our friend-kinda thing?
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3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.

Is it a felony to carry a gun in D.C.?  Losing your gun rights in a Pyrrhic victory is a win?

Want to end up on the TSA no-fly list & be labelled a domestic terrorist?  Go march with Kokesh.

Right now, we are winning the gun rights debate by a slim margin.  This march will damage those efforts, no matter the outcome, in my opinion.
 


Some people just don't give a fuck about that, given a chance to show everyone how much of a fucking "Patriot" they can be.
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No, but allying yourself with Code Pink sure as shit discredits what you have to say.

He was with Iraq Veterans Against War, which Code Pink may have protested something when they was there.

So if we are rallying against gun control, and storm front shows up, does that make us allies also?


Immaterial, Kokesh and Stormfront are already allied.
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3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.


Is it a felony to carry a gun in D.C.?  Losing your gun rights in a Pyrrhic victory is a win?



Want to end up on the TSA no-fly list & be labelled a domestic terrorist?  Go march with Kokesh.



Right now, we are winning the gun rights debate by a slim margin.  This march will damage those efforts, no matter the outcome, in my opinion.

 




Some people just don't give a fuck about that, given a chance to show everyone how much of a fucking "Patriot" they can be.
Also, with the right jury, they could get jury nullification and then really put things into a massive swirl for the Fed Gov.





 
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No, but allying yourself with Code Pink sure as shit discredits what you have to say.

He was with Iraq Veterans Against War, which Code Pink may have protested something when they was there.

So if we are rallying against gun control, and storm front shows up, does that make us allies also?


Immaterial, Kokesh and Stormfront are already allied.


Do you love to read your own typing?  Because no matter how many times you say this, it won't make it more true.

It's not true.  So quit posting it.
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3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.


Is it a felony to carry a gun in D.C.?  Losing your gun rights in a Pyrrhic victory is a win?



Want to end up on the TSA no-fly list & be labelled a domestic terrorist?  Go march with Kokesh.



Right now, we are winning the gun rights debate by a slim margin.  This march will damage those efforts, no matter the outcome, in my opinion.

 




Some people just don't give a fuck about that, given a chance to show everyone how much of a fucking "Patriot" they can be.
Also, with the right jury, they could get jury nullification and then really put things into a massive swirl for the Fed Gov.



 


That worked out well for the CA open carry crowd didn't it?





 
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How does Kokesh go from a leftist, affiliated with Code Pink to Super Patriot? He's not what he seems. If you look closely at the 'Patriot Movement", you'll see they're actually working for the leftists. Hes even employed by RT, which was created by Putin. They're trying to get folks from the 'right' to do something stupid. Then we're all screwed!


Because people like him are more similar to crazy attention whores than people with legitimate, thought out political beliefs.
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3)  There's actually 2 outcomes in your #3, a) People are arrested peacefully, which is peaceful civil disobedience, a win for those violent gun owners.  A win for gun owners. b) Shots are fired, people die.  That wont turn out well.  Especially depending on who shoots first.

Is it a felony to carry a gun in D.C.?  Losing your gun rights in a Pyrrhic victory is a win?

Want to end up on the TSA no-fly list & be labelled a domestic terrorist?  Go march with Kokesh.

Right now, we are winning the gun rights debate by a slim margin.  This march will damage those efforts, no matter the outcome, in my opinion.
 


Some people just don't give a fuck about that, given a chance to show everyone how much of a fucking "Patriot" they can be.



Okay lets just sit back and let them chop our rights piece by piece state by state.




We all know what their end game agenda is.
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