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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:48:39 AM EDT
Guy had his stock X5 go off while holstered. No fabric or a bad holster. Very professional debriefing.
He sent it back to Sig upon their request. Sig said it was a defective striker return spring when he sent it back and they would repair it and send him a new FCG. He declined. Odd that spring would cause this when it had multiple safeties preventing this.  My Sig P320 fired on its own in the holster and tried to shoot me! (P320 X-Five) |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:50:02 AM EDT
[#1]
In before sig fan boys claim it’s the best gun ever made
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:51:49 AM EDT
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Made me drop my Sigs from my AIWB carry rotation.
i was at my daughters volleyball game and on the bleachers. I had someone sitting directly in front of my crotch and my M17 was pointed directly at their head. I felt extremely uncomfortable about it after hearing all of these. Back to berettas or Glocks with SCD |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:52:10 AM EDT
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Saw this a while ago.
How does a defective firing pin return spring cause an AD? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:53:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this a while ago. How does a defective firing pin return spring cause an AD? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:54:45 AM EDT
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ETA: it was striker return spring not firing pin spring
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:56:30 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In before sig fan boys claim it’s the best gun ever made |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:57:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Saw this a while ago. How does a defective firing pin return spring cause an AD? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:58:15 AM EDT
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Where is Sig official claim of faulty parts?
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Posted: 10/21/2022 12:58:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's only 2 days old. Is there another one similar? No, same video. Seemed like longer I suppose. 
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:00:22 AM EDT
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They probably don’t support that platform anymore. Did they recommend putting duct tape on it for a fix?
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:00:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, same video. Seemed like longer I suppose. Seeming to be more common so it blends together I guess |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:00:32 AM EDT
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Was it stock parts? Or "performance" upgrades?
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:00:49 AM EDT
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Standard product development im told.
Teething problems arise and are dealt with. EZ clap. No need to jump to conclusions [\sarcasm] |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:00:56 AM EDT
[#14]
Influencers will not like this one.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:02:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was it stock parts? Or "performance" upgrades? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:03:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Influencers will not like this one. @MikeGlover |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:08:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Influencers will not like this one. The fact that a guy puts out a sub 5 min vid blowing up their world view is pretty great. SIG 320s GO OFF, FOR LIKE, NO REASON. FACT |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:20:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that a guy puts out a sub 5 min vid blowing up their world view is pretty great. SIG 320s GO OFF, FOR LIKE, NO REASON. FACT |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:25:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that a guy puts out a sub 5 min vid blowing up their world view is pretty great. SIG 320s GO OFF, FOR LIKE, NO REASON. FACT Have there been any instances of P365s doing the same thing? I don’t know how closely the P365 FCU resembles the P320 FCU. ETA: or if slide parts are closely related either for that matter. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:27:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have there been any instances of P365s doing the same thing? I don't know how closely the P365 FCU resembles the P320 FCU. ETA: or if slide parts are closely related either for that matter. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:28:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that a guy puts out a sub 5 min vid blowing up their world view is pretty great. SIG 320s GO OFF, FOR LIKE, NO REASON. FACT |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:31:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In before sig fan boys claim it’s the best gun ever made Dude, there's a youtube video that says this just can't happen. So this will be fun to watch... again. Eh - who knows, don't have a dog in this hunt. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:35:51 AM EDT
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Great video, thanks for sharing.
How long until someone comes out with a kevlar/ bulletproof 320 holster? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:37:18 AM EDT
[#24]
Said it before and I’ll say it again, overpriced overhyped garbage.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:38:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The fact that a guy puts out a sub 5 min vid blowing up their world view is pretty great. SIG 320s GO OFF, FOR LIKE, NO REASON. FACT This wasn't the first time, just the first time that every other excuse seems to have been eliminated and Sig couldn't gaslight the person into thinking it was their shirt or their holster or an actual finger on trigger ND, or it hit the concrete at several hundred mph after falling 3 feet, etc. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:39:45 AM EDT
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Clearly he had a string or piece of microscopic fabric in there, or the holster was made for a different gun and he just squeezed the 320 in it.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:48:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Completely different Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have there been any instances of P365s doing the same thing? I don't know how closely the P365 FCU resembles the P320 FCU. ETA: or if slide parts are closely related either for that matter. Cool, thanks for the info! I hadn’t heard of any P365s discharging randomly, but I had no idea if both guns shared similar internal components/designs. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:54:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Completely different Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have there been any instances of P365s doing the same thing? I don't know how closely the P365 FCU resembles the P320 FCU. ETA: or if slide parts are closely related either for that matter. I've been pretty grateful I opted for a 365XL as my new CCW instead of a 320. That 320 was really tempting me at the store. Especially that trigger pull and options for mag capacity. Crazy to see how this is being handled, I'm not even sure if anyone really knows whats causing it yet, well at least I have no heard a reason that makes sense for a true AD. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 1:57:17 AM EDT
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Didn’t someone here predict this when the gun came out?
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:02:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn’t someone here predict this when the gun came out? Several people saw this coming. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:03:02 AM EDT
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I really wanted one of these guns. Is there some reason they cant put a trigger safety on these. I'll never trust one until that's implemented.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:04:23 AM EDT
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P320 fan boy here.
Last thing the dude should have done was send it back to Sig. He owes no one nothing, but I still feel a little cheated that it wasn't inspected and the issue shown and reproduced. But seriously, it clearly saved him from that pocket knife's plotting it's attack.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:09:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:21:41 AM EDT
[#34]
Sold off my P320’s. Good riddance. The P320 is an unsafe platform and Sig is putting profits over the publics safety by continuing to sell this flawed design.
ETA: This thread will be Bigly epic. The cries of the Sig nut huggers will deafening. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:34:01 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sold off my P320’s. Good riddance. The P320 is an unsafe platform and Sig is putting profits over the publics safety by continuing to sell this flawed design. ETA: This thread will be Bigly epic. The cries of the Sig nut huggers will deafening. My guess is this thread will die on page 2. Too many people will stick their head in the sands and ignore this. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 2:34:38 AM EDT
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This video is what really gives me chills, Sig fans are right about one thing, how come nobody has been able to replicate this behaviour? But I think that makes it worse, because to me it seems that at any point, the right parts have the probability of landing in just the right spot where the firing pin is not really secured, and at that point it may slip and discharge a round if you so much as dare to shake it.
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Posted: 10/21/2022 3:29:03 AM EDT
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Quoted: Guy had his stock X5 go off while holstered. No fabric or a bad holster. Very professional debriefing. He sent it back to Sig upon their request. Sig said it was a defective striker return spring when he sent it back and they would repair it and send him a new FCG. He declined. Odd that spring would cause this when it had multiple safeties preventing this.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBjo62vSYZkShirt is untucked by the holster in the screenshot of the video. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 3:32:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude, there's a youtube video that says this just can't happen. So this will be fun to watch... again. Eh - who knows, don't have a dog in this hunt. Did you watch this video? For someone who doesn't have a dog in the fight you sure as hell seem to pop up in every thread about it to throw in your theory? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 4:12:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shirt is untucked by the holster in the screenshot of the video. Lol. You think that might be what caused the faulty spring? |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 4:28:06 AM EDT
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The video in the OP is something the producer put together from pictures of an incident that happened 3 years ago. Unfortunately I think the real issue with that pistol will never be known having to rely on his memory of what SIG told him. I don't see how a broken striker return spring would cause it to fire randomly several seconds after it was holstered. That spring retracts the striker after the gun has fired so once it cycles there is no load on it. The way it rides in the channel in the striker housing it wouldn't be possible for parts of a broken striker return spring to wander. The spring is pretty tiny. A slam fire doesn't jive with the gun being holstered and untouched as that would occur when the slide is going into battery.
As far as the Tiktok video, its pretty clear the firearm was in the user's hand and being holstered when it discharged. The question left in the air is why. Bad holster? Bad trigger control? Something in the holster like clothing? Who knows. Seen this happen enough with bad trigger control on Glocks and M&P's I'm not willing to call that evidence of anything because if it was a Glock or M&P no one would be blaming the gun for bad trigger control. The only video of a Milwaukee PD P320 firing in the holster shows a sloppy detective with baggy clothing jammed all around the holstered firearm. Kind of hard to say definitively if it's a gun problem, holster problem, or user error. I will say this the P320's short, light trigger really does not tolerate being an inattentive dumbass. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 4:34:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shirt is untucked by the holster in the screenshot of the video. Lol, there it is. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 5:19:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My guess is this thread will die on page 2. Too many people will stick their head in the sands and ignore this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Sold off my P320’s. Good riddance. The P320 is an unsafe platform and Sig is putting profits over the publics safety by continuing to sell this flawed design. ETA: This thread will be Bigly epic. The cries of the Sig nut huggers will deafening. My guess is this thread will die on page 2. Too many people will stick their head in the sands and ignore this. Yea, a "BIGLY TOPIC" for those who won't do a little bit of their own research to stay up to date with the topic they pretend to know. Name calling is more fun I suppose.  P320 Upgrade Guide The whole trigger system was revamped early this year. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 5:25:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Influencers will not like this one. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 5:37:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Great video, thanks for sharing. How long until someone comes out with a kevlar/ bulletproof 320 holster?   |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:15:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shirt is untucked by the holster in the screenshot of the video. I noted that also. That shirt could very well have been pinched in the holster. Couple that with his statement that it went off when he raised his hands lead me to believe the trigger was pinched and pulled. Raising your hands makes your shirt ride up, everyone who has ever carried concealed knows this. The fact that Sig stated they did repair work is a new twist on things. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:23:29 AM EDT
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He was shooting a Sig P320 X5 in 10mm manufactured in 2019.
I thought that they were introduced in May of 2022 as the X-Ten |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:26:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yea, a "BIGLY TOPIC" for those who won't do a little bit of their own research to stay up to date with the topic they pretend to know. Name calling is more fun I suppose. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGUeloSsUvcThe whole trigger system was revamped early this year. No, the changes happened years ago. Those are changes between the upgraded gun and the non-upgraded gun. The video may be from April but the changes were made about 4 years ago. I just looked at my 320, which came with the factory upgrade 4 years ago and it is just like he points out as upgraded. |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:27:31 AM EDT
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Given that this is 3 years after the fact, smells like a guy hunting some sweet lawsuit money to me.
The drop safety thing was legit, and sig fixed it. After reviewing how the 320 works, it's just not believable to me that they just "go off for no reason." |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:33:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have there been any instances of P365s doing the same thing? I don’t know how closely the P365 FCU resembles the P320 FCU. ETA: or if slide parts are closely related either for that matter. Supposedly 365s will fire as the slide closes |
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Posted: 10/21/2022 6:35:03 AM EDT
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So Sig p320’s are the pitbull of the gun world?
Its not if, but when? (Even if they were raised right) |
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