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Posted: 7/26/2011 6:42:34 PM EDT
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I am betting that 99% of the "it's wrong to be naked" people have never spent any time at a nude beach. If they had, they'd already know it really isn't a big deal.
ETA: Page seven is MINE! I'm thinking this is the wrong thread to use the dancing banana. 
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Posted: 7/26/2011 11:21:11 PM EDT
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Like I said, it was my first time abroad. I knew I was going to see stuff like that but, given my half-drunk and fully-jet-lagged condition at the time, it took me a few moments to realize what I was looking at, and then a few more moments to decide if I was really seeing what I was seeing. The nuns walking by just took the WTF to the next level. BTW: I still remember the snack I was eating at the time. I was on my third Spaten Bier and working on a big chunk of Bauernbrot with Schweinemette (sp? the pork tar-tar stuff with onions) slathered on it. It was yummy. I hear ya! I've been over here quite a while, speak the language, have a German GF and some things still surprise me. Spaten?! WTF, you could have done better than that. Next time you're here let me know and I'll show you the good beers in town. As for the food, pretty close, it's "Schweinemett". Not typical Bavarian, but quite popular. Why did I miss that when I was in Germany. I was there for six months and saw NOTHING. You were there for hours and saw boobies.
6 month? October tru March? That's wintertime over here, too cold to go topless. 
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Posted: 7/27/2011 5:36:31 AM EDT
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Why did I miss that when I was in Germany. I was there for six months and saw NOTHING. You were there for hours and saw boobies.
6 month? October tru March? That's wintertime over here, too cold to go topless.
I thought the Germans were a hearty people. |
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Posted: 7/27/2011 5:55:36 AM EDT
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Quoted: . . . In this country, a topless 14 year old is obscenity..so..keep the top on unless on a private Nude beach. This is the absurdity of the whole thing. In New York, a topless 14 year old is legal and not obscenity, but if you take a photo, it's a felony. |
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Posted: 7/27/2011 12:04:00 PM EDT
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I personally do not care if she was topless or not. But those who are saying it is acceptable in most of the world I would also state who cares what is acceptable in the rest of the world. In some parts of the world being a pedophile is acceptable does that mean we should think it is okay? Gun control is acceptable in most of the world should that apply here also? I could go on and on. If you want to argue that females should be aloud to go topless go ahead. Won't get a complaint from me But leave out what is acceptable in other countries because it is irrelevant.It's about maximizing Liberty. Liberty is about having the least restrictions that don't *harm* others. Molesting children harms the child, it is obviously wrong. Going topless harms nobody. It may get somebodies panties in a knot, but it does no harm. That's what Liberty is about. Gun control restricts Liberty. You're should be free to do stuff that doesn't cause harm to others. Just having a gun harms nobody. Shooting them with it hurts them. So we make shooting people (without good cause) illegal. It's really pretty easy to figure out most of this stuff. |
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Posted: 7/27/2011 12:09:07 PM EDT
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I let my dog run around naked all the time, she is only 3 years old...
saw a coupla horses butt naked in field on way to work.. went to Canada once, even people were running naked at the hotsprings. luckily the statute of limitations applies, so I cant be prosecuted for watching the Canadians. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 3:37:51 PM EDT
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I am going to the same beach this weekend. I am going to leave my camera at home.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 3:40:31 PM EDT
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I am going to the same beach this weekend. I am going to leave my camera at home. Wasn't it already explained to you like 6 or 7 times that that wouldn't be a felony? |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 3:40:32 PM EDT
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Uneasy topic is uneasy.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 3:42:00 PM EDT
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Uneasy topic is uneasy. Easy there. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 4:14:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: I am going to the same beach this weekend. I am going to leave my camera at home. What is it with you and all these bumped threads of yours? |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 4:21:01 PM EDT
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I am going to the same beach this weekend. I am going to leave my camera at home. What beach is this and why was there no HTF notification? |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 4:33:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird. You ain't kiddin'.  Right. I suppose my wife and kid should have worn a Burka. A 14-year-old foreign girl on a beach topless I can deal with. Parts of Fire Island kinda have a rep anyway, and I can just move my setup if it's uncomfortably close. But I never whipped my penis out in front of my daughters. It's difficult to understand this one. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 4:46:23 PM EDT
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its only child porn if its sexual in nature. Agree, we have a nude beach here 
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Posted: 9/1/2011 4:59:10 PM EDT
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I sho nuff like the way we Americans view guns and V8s, but our take on alcohol and nudity sucks.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:02:21 PM EDT
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The biggest hit thread of the night with over 15k hits is one that mentions a topless 14yo? Nice
(yeah, yeah, I clicked it too, fuck off  )
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:11:11 PM EDT
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Quoted: The biggest hit thread of the night with over 15k hits is one that mentions a topless 14yo? Nice (yeah, yeah, I clicked it too, fuck off )15k hits over a month isnt too bad... |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:15:08 PM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird. You ain't kiddin'. Right. I suppose my wife and kid should have worn a Burka. A 14-year-old foreign girl on a beach topless I can deal with. Parts of Fire Island kinda have a rep anyway, and I can just move my setup if it's uncomfortably close. But I never whipped my penis out in front of my daughters. It's difficult to understand this one. Meh. My daughters have seen me naked. I have seen them naked. It is family and in some places on european beaches there are not real changing areas and people change right on the beach. Teach them your morality, teach themselves respect for their bodies and the bodies of others, and teach them the appropriate social boundries (that vary place to place) and they will be fine. My kids are doctor's kids, so they have known all of the "facts of life" since they were old enough to ask the question and they were not taught to be ashamed by the human form or that it was somehow "evil." |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:16:12 PM EDT
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Quoted: In the US, we freak out over nipples. NIPPLES. NIPPLES! I like nipples. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:25:37 PM EDT
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In the US, we freak out over nipples. NIPPLES. NIPPLES! I like nipples. If you like nipples so much why don't you try to get the guidelines in BOTD loosened up a bit. . Just saying
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:30:33 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. its cultural.... i have seen a lot of topless/ naked women in germany... went to the dominican republic, and had to endure topless 16 year old girls playing basketball in the pool. it was terrible.  but like i said. its cultural. europeans dont freak out everytime they see a titty like we do.
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:32:24 PM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. its cultural.... i have seen a lot of topless/ naked women in germany... went to the dominican republic, and had to endure topless 16 year old girls playing basketball in the pool. it was terrible. but like i said. its cultural. europeans dont freak out everytime they see a titty like we do.Maybe it's ok elsewhere but not here. A teenage girl should put her tits away. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:35:07 PM EDT
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You'd be fine in NYS unless you captured the girl and her boyfriend going at it in the background. The law states "sexual conduct" or lewd nature, explicitly. That leaves way too much open for interpretation these days , you'd be taking a big gamble
14 years old . . . . geesh 
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:38:07 PM EDT
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Quoted: Hell the legs and hair thing applies to the Amish in our very own country.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. There are actually places in this world where the human body is not in itself considered to be profane. Crazy, I know. It's not a matter of it being profane, it's a matter of not letting every sicko in NY see your 14 year old daughter's tits. What about her hands. Is that crazy weird? Sick? What about her hair? In Jordan, Oman, or Iran, you wear a head scarf. It's a matter of not letting every sicko around see your wife or daughter's hair. Legs? Are those to be hidden from public view? Myself I find a shapely pair of women's legs to be incredibly sexy. And in ultra-conservative societies (the mid-east), by law a woman cannot show her legs in public. It's a matter of not letting every sicko around see your wife or daughter's legs. Grow up. +1 From the Muslims I talked to, they think of it the same way as you are describing: Protecting women from the gazes of men, especially would be rapists. |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:38:41 PM EDT
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The biggest hit thread of the night with over 15k hits is one that mentions a topless 14yo? Nice
(yeah, yeah, I clicked it too, fuck off )Well, it has been over a month since the thread was started....... |
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Posted: 9/1/2011 5:47:03 PM EDT
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its only child porn if its sexual in nature. IBN In Before Nationwide
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Posted: 9/1/2011 7:54:14 PM EDT
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I find nothing wrong with it. Hell in Europe they allow kids to drink wine at an early age.
it's nothing sexual in nature except in your viewpoint. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 6:29:39 AM EDT
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In the US, we freak out over nipples. NIPPLES. NIPPLES! I like nipples. Then you'll love this: 
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Posted: 9/2/2011 6:34:31 AM EDT
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This thread is relevant to my interests
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Posted: 9/2/2011 6:34:44 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. He said the seemed French, other countries are not so hung up on the naked body as Americans, we are a prudish lot. Its not that we are prudish, but rather that we have a lot of sick fucks in our society that sexualized the inane. Some sick fuck would be jacking off in the woods and the NYPD would only.arrest the guy that beat up the sick fuck. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 6:48:41 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. He said the seemed French, other countries are not so hung up on the naked body as Americans, we are a prudish lot. Its not that we are prudish, but rather that we have a lot of sick fucks in our society that sexualized the inane. Some sick fuck would be jacking off in the woods and the NYPD would only.arrest the guy that beat up the sick fuck. It's not that guns are bad, but there's a lot of unstable people that would shoot someone over a simple argument... See where that line of thought can lead? Basing laws, and even our judgement of what is socially acceptable, on what some fringe element might do is a slippery slope and a poison to liberty. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 7:11:49 AM EDT
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Shee-it, they've got coed locker rooms in the inside water park, Blub, in Berlin......I got changed into my trunks, starting walking out of the locker room to go meet my date, turned the corner, and standing right in the middle of the pathway, here's this 16 yr old girl butt.........asssed..........naked bent over with her shaved hooo-ha pointed up in the air........for a 20yr old Infantryman that was, uh, interesting sight.
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. American's are such prudes. Heck if it was Sweden they may have invited op to take a naked sauna with them and it would have been completely innocent and non-sexual. Nudity =/= sex. When I was in Germany, a lot of folks just changed on the side of the pool. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 7:31:06 AM EDT
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Other cultures are very different. In some cultures the age of consent may be 14. Some cultures may not care about nudity. In some cultures, the right of passage to become a man involves performing fellatio on the eldest male.
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Posted: 9/2/2011 7:52:18 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. You've not traveled much outside the US, have you? This. People are naked all over the world, right this second. The horror. Well, at least some are horrors. When I was in germany, I enjoyed the pools and spas that are everywhere. Superhot german chicks with not a stitch of clothes on. It was tolerable. ETA: I had to concentrate on chanting "COLD SHOWER" in my head or I might have pulled a "faux pas" if ya get my drift. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 7:59:44 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. There are actually places in this world where the human body is not in itself considered to be profane. Crazy, I know. It's not a matter of it being profane, it's a matter of not letting every sicko in NY see your 14 year old daughter's tits. Who cares, they're just tits, half the world's population have them. You disagree? yes - all the world's population has them - some are just more interesting than others. Males have breasts complete with nipples. They just look better on women. 
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:04:16 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. He said the seemed French, other countries are not so hung up on the naked body as Americans, we are a prudish lot. We can never win. Depending on the country, season, and alighment of the stars, but we are always either prudes or promiscuous. I wish people would make up their minds. Its a different culture but not illegal far as I can tell. Nudist camps get away with nudity of both minors and adults all the time. Id also think that your being a bit overzealous in thinking youd be carted off to PMITAP if you inadvertantly captured her on video. Upon doing a fair ammount of reading I have only this to note. There is a majority that says that its no big deal, that there is nothing sexual about the human body. Between this thread and GD in general there seems to, well...be alot of talk about seeing boobs as the mecca of teenage boyhood, "ill be in my bunk", "fap fap fap", etc in regards to the female form. If I had an insane ammount of time to kill id probably find that many who said that the body isnt sexual are guilty of treating it as such. People talk about travelig overseas and "hitting the jackpot" when they are surrounded by naked people. Seems alot more like they are excited to see so much nudity rather than feeling releived that they are among "like minded people" to me. Just an observation. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:18:27 AM EDT
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I was at a party at a buddies place last year. People hangin out, drinkin beer, having a good time. About 30 or 40 people total. Knew about half of them pretty well. Hot tub looked good, so me, my wife, and my 9 year old girl promptly stripped naked as the day we were born and got in. 3/4 of the people there looked at us like we were fucking aliens. People are weird. You ain't kiddin'. When 3/4 of the people in a crowd me look at me as if I were an alien when am I do something, I tend to reflect that perhaps it's not just them being weird. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:27:22 AM EDT
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Hmm...in!
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Posted: 9/2/2011 8:38:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Upon doing a fair ammount of reading I have only this to note. There is a majority that says that its no big deal, that there is nothing sexual about the human body. Between this thread and GD in general there seems to, well...be alot of talk about seeing boobs as the mecca of teenage boyhood, "ill be in my bunk", "fap fap fap", etc in regards to the female form. If I had an insane ammount of time to kill id probably find that many who said that the body isnt sexual are guilty of treating it as such. People talk about travelig overseas and "hitting the jackpot" when they are surrounded by naked people. Seems alot more like they are excited to see so much nudity rather than feeling releived that they are among "like minded people" to me. Just an observation. And a very good observation at that. I'm genuinely curious how many people here who have commented that we are "Prudes", or "It's no big deal" have teenage daughters themselves and would be OK to let her walk around a public beach with her tits hanging out. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:00:38 AM EDT
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Upon doing a fair ammount of reading I have only this to note. There is a majority that says that its no big deal, that there is nothing sexual about the human body. Between this thread and GD in general there seems to, well...be alot of talk about seeing boobs as the mecca of teenage boyhood, "ill be in my bunk", "fap fap fap", etc in regards to the female form. If I had an insane ammount of time to kill id probably find that many who said that the body isnt sexual are guilty of treating it as such. People talk about travelig overseas and "hitting the jackpot" when they are surrounded by naked people. Seems alot more like they are excited to see so much nudity rather than feeling releived that they are among "like minded people" to me. Just an observation. And a very good observation at that. I'm genuinely curious how many people here who have commented that we are "Prudes", or "It's no big deal" have teenage daughters themselves and would be OK to let her walk around a public beach with her tits hanging out. I've actually asked that in this thread. Got varied responses. I think there are a lot of liars in this thread to be honest. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:07:01 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. You've not traveled much outside the US, have you? This. People are naked all over the world, right this second. The horror. Well, at least some are horrors. When I was in germany, I enjoyed the pools and spas that are everywhere. Superhot german chicks with not a stitch of clothes on. It was tolerable. ETA: I had to concentrate on chanting "COLD SHOWER" in my head or I might have pulled a "faux pas" if ya get my drift. Yea but see your edit says it is a big deal. If it was not a big deal you would not have had to worry about getting an erection. Whether or not Americans are prudish or not, the issue at hand is that it's unusual in this country to see nudity out and about let alone a teenager. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:20:09 AM EDT
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"But they do it in Europe!"
Well in the Middle East they make little boys dance in dresses and have sex with them afterwards. How about we let Europe continue being Europe, and let the US continue being the US?
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:21:18 AM EDT
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It is inappropriate to let your 14 year old daughter walk around topless. There is no reason for a mother to think that is OK. Eurotrash... |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:22:47 AM EDT
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when in bosnia, one of our guys managed to end up taking a shower in the german shower house. he washed his hair, had soap on his face, washed it off. then he turned around was saw at least two very good looking german female soldiers, washing their naked asses and tits looking right at him.
he almost stroked out, thinking for sure he was gonna burn for sexual harrassment etc.. however, apparently the germans have coed showers, and dont give a fuck. the women thought he was funny running from the showers...
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Posted: 9/2/2011 9:24:07 AM EDT
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the only trouble with the people wanting to be nudists in this country, is they are usually the old, ugly fat people..
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Posted: 9/2/2011 1:55:07 PM EDT
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Upon doing a fair ammount of reading I have only this to note. There is a majority that says that its no big deal, that there is nothing sexual about the human body. Between this thread and GD in general there seems to, well...be alot of talk about seeing boobs as the mecca of teenage boyhood, "ill be in my bunk", "fap fap fap", etc in regards to the female form. If I had an insane ammount of time to kill id probably find that many who said that the body isnt sexual are guilty of treating it as such. People talk about travelig overseas and "hitting the jackpot" when they are surrounded by naked people. Seems alot more like they are excited to see so much nudity rather than feeling releived that they are among "like minded people" to me. Just an observation. And a very good observation at that. I'm genuinely curious how many people here who have commented that we are "Prudes", or "It's no big deal" have teenage daughters themselves and would be OK to let her walk around a public beach with her tits hanging out. Me. MY daughters at the beach (I have several) okay. My daughters at Kroger's, not so much. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:08:56 PM EDT
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I want to go on record as saying I like boobs. I have often worshiped at the breastuary of nippapolis, that being said, I think that a teenager topless in public is a bad idea.
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:14:10 PM EDT
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Quoted: Me. MY daughters at the beach (I have several) okay. My daughters at Kroger's, not so much. So you have no problems with people ogling your teenage daughters naked boobs at the beach? You know, "fap fap fap", "I'll be in my bunk" type of comments won't bother you? |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:25:44 PM EDT
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I think it's just what you see in the culture:
Europeans: Sex and Nudity Americans: Violence I took a spanish conversation class when I was in college, which involved watching and discussing movies. My professor never warned us about the graphic love scenes in these movies....very funny when you're watching the movie in a public library. I said something about it and she was like "Oh david, nothing happened!". Then, before we watched one of the movies, she gave this little speech about how there was something horrible and violent in the movie, and if we had problems with it, we could be exempted from watching it.....all you see is some blood on a bathtub. |
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Posted: 9/2/2011 3:28:29 PM EDT
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My son and I were walking and looking for shells. This was off the main beach, you had to walk 500 yards or so down the shore where there is no easy access from the road and not many folks. A family was there. I gather they were French, or at least speaking French. The mother and her daughter were wearing bikini bottoms only, and the girl was probably only 14 or maybe even younger. Now you see topless folks from time-to-time on the main beach –– it's not illegal in New York to go topless at the beach. That by itself was not unusual. But I had my flip camera out and had been making some videos as I walked along the shore. I was then struck with a thought: If I'd taken a video of my son on the beach, and this girl walked into the background of the photo, I'd be a felon and could go to jail for years. It is kind of a weird world we live in. This is only unacceptable in America. If you go to Europe its not taboo! |
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