The DC-10-30F (Otherwise known as the KC-10) is a fucking rocketship when she's lightweight.  150,000 lbs of thrust'll do that!  I've seen 30+ degrees nose-up on takeoff just to maintain V2+10 and steady climb rates over 3,000 fpm on light jets.



 

I thought it was a 707?

When the 787 gets moving, it promises to be a real hotrod.



Its thrust to weight ratio (based on an empty plane, or carrying just fuel, for demonstration flights) is pretty sick,

approaching .5 to 1.   That's better than any fighter aircraft up until the 1970s.



Boeing is designing it to be efficient, of course, which means they're going to get all the load carrying capacity they can

out of a given engine, wing, and fuselage, so it won't have the most incredible thrust to weight ratio you've ever seen at

full load,  but that alone should be pretty impressive in its own right as it'll be able to haul a full 540,000 pound load along

with 140,000 pounds of thrust,  for a ratio of 3.85 pounds carried per pound of thrust.   That's pretty efficient.

Empty weight is 254,000 pounds.   Max fuel capacity is 220,158 pounds.



Flown light for demo purposes,  the 787 could turn in a pretty spectacular aerobatic demo, if Boeing decided to do so.



I hope they get things worked out and make the next Farnborough air show and knock Airbus's socks clean off.





CJ