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Posted: 10/12/2021 11:43:19 PM EDT
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32 Gauge Master Race.
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Posted: 10/12/2021 11:48:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 32 Gauge Master Race. Wall hanger master race. Meanwhile, they sell 28ga at Walmart. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 11:53:55 PM EDT
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Bought a 28 gauge (.54) monkey gun muzzle loader years ago.
Fun to shoot with 3/4oz loads.. I think it's a Rossi brand |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 12:18:08 AM EDT
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As others said the 28 gauge is one of the four gauges that competition skeet is shot in.
28 gauge is a good upland game gun.  Beretta 687 grade #3 20/28 gauge combo  Beretta 687 grade #5 28 gauge English stock true 28 gauge or Baby frame as it is called. These are used for upland game especially quail in Florida. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 12:22:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: As others 28 gauge is one of the four gauges that competition skeet is shot in. 28 gauge is a good upland game gun. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/15867/092E077C-5BA6-4409-8B08-D7B1BA6619D5-2128089.jpg Beretta 20/28 gauge combo Nice gun, but illustrates my earlier point. If you're going to shoot a 20 ga. frame gun, why not shoot a 20 ga.? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 12:53:06 AM EDT
[#6]
Fiochi still makes 32ga. and 24ga.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:03:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wall hanger master race. Meanwhile, they sell 28ga at Walmart. Who buys ammo at Walmart? Who isn’t buying shotgun shells multiple flats at a time? Can still easily get 32ga from Fiocchi |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:12:37 AM EDT
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Good for everything but ducks and geese.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:15:34 AM EDT
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I do a lot of upland hunting, I have seen the 28 do things that a 12 would be pretty hard pressed to do.
Longest shot on a bird was with a 28 and it was just over 100 yards. Three other guys with me and the guide was pretty stunned, even though people had done it in the past at this location. Supposedly has a better pattern(consistency) and is faster than a 12, but all this was relayed to me by a bunch of guides. I kind of turned into a believer after that shot, and before I get chastised for it, I typically shoot upwards of 10k shells a year, so I know my way around a scattergun. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:22:50 AM EDT
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I went to a skeet range at a resort many years ago. They had Beretta O/U shotguns. I shot 12G and my wife shot 28G. I took a few shots with the 28G as I had never shot one before. The gun was much lighter than the 12G, but to me, it seemed to kick almost as much.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:31:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice gun, but illustrates my earlier point. If you're going to shoot a 20 ga. frame gun, why not shoot a 20 ga.? I updated my post to include a baby frame 687 also. The combo is a left hand gun while the English stock gun is right handed. I’m a big guy so the baby frame is kinda wippy for me. The 20 gauge frame just feels better. But to your point I find no difference between 20 or 28 gauge. Neither do the quail. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:34:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I went to a skeet range at a resort many years ago. They had Beretta O/U shotguns. I shot 12G and my wife shot 28G. I took a few shots with the 28G as I had never shot one before. The gun was much lighter than the 12G, but to me, it seemed to kick almost as much. Length of pull, or cast-off A shotgun has to "fit" like the comb on rifle stock. Shoot a "bantam " youth rifle with a scope and the cheekweld or eye relief will be off. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:38:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I absolutely love mine. Shot more clays with it last year than I did with my 12 in the past 5, also chased ducks/pheasants/doves with it a bunch. Went with Tristar Viper at first to see if I'd like the chambering and it's been enjoyable enough that I'm thinking hard about upgrading to the Beretta A400. As someone who owns both, the Tristar is the superior gun. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:50:30 AM EDT
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28 gauge Renato Gamba O/U on 28 gauge frame. Five pounds.
Upland game. Would use it on ducks over decoys if I could find the right load. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:49:30 AM EDT
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28ga is the perfect shotgun. Often described as a square load 3/4oz of 8 shot produces a beautiful pattern.
I love mine. Killed 29 pheasants in 3 days once using #8 sporting clays loads, shot every one in the head while flying. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:18:24 AM EDT
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Here's my Winchester Model 12 Skeet in 28GA made in 1940 - refinished/new wood/Simmons rail ......
     
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:26:15 AM EDT
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I have two, an over under and a side by side.
They are magical guns that hit harder than they should given their size They are very light recoiling, my wife loves them, also not to expressive to shoot if you can reload My favorite shotgun caliber. Don't be fooled by a28 on a 20g frame. Oversized and clunky. Look for ones on a true 28g frame. CZ currently imports a couple in their line that are really nice guns for the money and on the right frame. Do it, you won't regret it |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:33:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Poor ammo availability, long shot string, inferior to a 20 but on many guns it uses a similar frame as a 20. If I want a smaller gauge I shoot my 20. It is used in competition, so it has a following. ETA: long shot string compared to the 20 shooting the same weight. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:35:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: See my edit above. I will always choose 28ga before 20ga unless I am out of 28 shells |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 4:39:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's my Winchester Model 12 Skeet in 28GA made in 1940 - refinished/new wood/Simmons rail ...... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix985600173-2128159.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix745565522-2128153.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix903251248-2128154.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix888056090-2128155.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix724983238-2128157.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix822616270-2128158.jpg |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 5:36:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for everything but ducks and geese. We have a 91 year old member of my duck club that kills them stone dead with a 28 ga. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 6:20:02 AM EDT
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Newspaper cat meme, I should get a 28ga. I missed my chance when CZ LE still sold direct. I bought the 20ga instead for ammo availability. I should have bought both while I could have.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:17:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who buys ammo at Walmart? Who isn’t buying shotgun shells multiple flats at a time? Where are you finding ammo? The cupboards are bare . . . except for 28 gauge. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 7:24:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I said nothing about pattern. A long shot string can pattern well. If you are shooting game birds or clays, a long shot string is not good. The shorter the shot string for a given weight, the denser the pattern on a flying target. Can you provide a source or any evidence that supports your contention that a standard (3/4 ounce) 28 gauge load produces long shot strings? I'll settle for any credible source. I'll refer you to Michael McIntosh, one of the most respected shotgun writers of all time. Specifically, see what he says near the middle of the second page of this column about the 28 gauge:    |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:11:06 AM EDT
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I confess, I've owned three 28 gauge shotguns that didn't work well for me and I sold them off: My SKB M585 was just too light for consistent skeet scores. I was always overswinging it. I sold it and bought a set of tubes for a 12 gauge gun. I also briefly had a CZ Bobwhite side by side. The thing was so light it felt like you were swinging a broom stick. I just never got along with it. I also had a 28 gauge Remington 1100 that was a wonderful gun, but I didn't use it enough to justify tying up the money. Also, I hate picking up hulls. I still have an 11-48 and a Wingmaster in 28 gauge, plus my tube set. Love the round. Not crazy about superlight shotguns.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:20:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I regret switching from 28ga to my current big gun (20ga). I fixed my kids up a 870 28 with a youth stock, then let him try out an 1100 Yute model. He said the 1100 didn't kick as much and he got more hits with the clay thrower. Since half of the hunting we do is turkey, the 20 makes more since from a practical reason. I'd still like to try out a 28ga CZ SxS or a Benelli. Had a 48AL and it was exactly the same frame and size in 20. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:39:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for everything but ducks and geese. I hunt with a few guys that are shooting all of their ducks and plenty of geese with 28's. Not much of a handicap anymore with modern non toxic ammo. Just need to know how they pattern. No different than a 12 gauge in that regard. I've been buying 28 gauge ammo here and there and I plan on starting my daughter out on a 28 rather than a 20. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:49:25 AM EDT
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Never ever seen one IRL.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 8:49:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/13/2021 9:01:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good for everything but ducks and geese. With steel maybe but with Hevi-Shot it worked well on both for my kids. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:23:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you provide a source or any evidence that supports your contention that a standard (3/4 ounce) 28 gauge load produces long shot strings? I'll settle for any credible source. I'll refer you to Michael McIntosh, one of the most respected shotgun writers of all time. Specifically, see what he says near the middle of the second page of this column about the 28 gauge: https://i.imgur.com/9vvpRjI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W1bNllf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Hzxn8xw.jpg It's physics, and you didn't read my post and edit. Shooting equal shot weight, the 28 will have a longer shot string than a 20. What's hard to understand? The 28 isn't horrible, it's just not as good or as flexible as a 20. The only reason it's still available is because competitors use it. Look at sales of 20s vs. 28s, and shells for both. There's a reason. It's almost obsolete. Look also at the various commercial loads for both. The 20 has more varieties. Slugs? Buck? At your local hardware store? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:36:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's physics, and you didn't read my post and edit. Shooting equal shot weight, the 28 will have a longer shot string than a 20. What's hard to understand? The 28 isn't horrible, it's just not as good or as flexible as a 20. The only reason it's still available is because competitors use it. Look at sales of 20s vs. 28s, and shells for both. There's a reason. It's almost obsolete. Look also at the various commercial loads for both. The 20 has more varieties. Slugs? Buck? At your local hardware store? I don’t need slugs or buck and they wouldn’t pattern well in my Beretta anyway. And the 3/4 ounce 28 doesn’t have a long column. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:37:27 PM EDT
[#33]
I’ve shot numerous geese and brant with a 28 gauge, no problem. Great little gun
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 3/4 oz of lead is 3/4 oz of lead. I can drop down in a 20ga, but don't have as much flexibility with 28 gauge ammo. My 20ga is much heavier than my 28 was. Beretta 686 or 687 I forget which. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:40:15 PM EDT
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I gave my brother a Franchi semi auto 28 gauge........ it’s a sweet gun. I looked for extended mag tubes and buck and slugs for it as well as a barrel with rifle sights but found there weren’t any
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:42:33 PM EDT
[#36]
20 is my favorite Gauge
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:43:53 PM EDT
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I have a Charles Dailey semi-auto 28 gauge. It's usually the only gun I'll use on hunt club pheasant hunts. Kills em just as dead as my Benelli 12's or 20's.
I was eyeing up a Ceasar Guerini with 20g and 28g tubes at the gun shop the other day. Gorgeous piece of craftsmanship. Was $10k used 
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Posted: 10/13/2021 1:46:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I gave my brother a Franchi semi auto 28 gauge........ it's a sweet gun. I looked for extended mag tubes and buck and slugs for it as well as a barrel with rifle sights but found there weren't any Brenneke has 28ga deer slugs. I bought some just to have but haven't shot them |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:04:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's BWCA? I've been to Hallock and International Falls but I've never heard of BWCA. Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness. I used to live up in Ely, MN and grouse hunting up there is fun. I used a Remington 870 Wingmaster in 20 gauge. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. Poor ammo availability, long shot string, inferior to a 20 but on many guns it uses a similar frame as a 20. If I want a smaller gauge I shoot my 20. It is used in competition, so it has a following. ETA: long shot string compared to the 20 shooting the same weight. Poor ammo availability? 28 gauge is the only gauge I can fine around here outside of steel shot. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:12:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's my Winchester Model 12 Skeet in 28GA made in 1940 - refinished/new wood/Simmons rail ...... https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix985600173-2128159.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix745565522-2128153.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix903251248-2128154.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix888056090-2128155.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix724983238-2128157.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/541637/pix822616270-2128158.jpg That's a beauty, very nice. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:20:35 PM EDT
[#42]
I use a 28 gauge for grouse and preserve pheasants.
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's physics, and you didn't read my post and edit. Shooting equal shot weight, the 28 will have a longer shot string than a 20. What's hard to understand? The 28 isn't horrible, it's just not as good or as flexible as a 20. The only reason it's still available is because competitors use it. Look at sales of 20s vs. 28s, and shells for both. There's a reason. It's almost obsolete. Look also at the various commercial loads for both. The 20 has more varieties. Slugs? Buck? At your local hardware store? So, in other words, you can't direct me to a source or credible authority who shares your view? Have you ever owned or shot a 28 gauge? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:37:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's physics, and you didn't read my post and edit. Shooting equal shot weight, the 28 will have a longer shot string than a 20. What's hard to understand? The 28 isn't horrible, it's just not as good or as flexible as a 20. The only reason it's still available is because competitors use it. Look at sales of 20s vs. 28s, and shells for both. There's a reason. It's almost obsolete. Look also at the various commercial loads for both. The 20 has more varieties. Slugs? Buck? At your local hardware store? The 28 gauge is for wingshooting. No one cares that they don’t make slugs or buckshot for the 28 gauge. But someone does, don’t remember who, make slugs for the 28 gauge. And Walmart does carry hunting and target loads for the 28 gauge quite often. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:43:46 PM EDT
[#45]
The guys I hunt with use them for upland game and clays
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Posted: 10/13/2021 2:48:38 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: AL 48 is the best platform for it i can tell you that. Finally topped the most wrong post you’ve made. I have one of those. |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:19:59 PM EDT
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If I could have only one shotgun with tons of ammo...28ga all day every day
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:34:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, in other words, you can't direct me to a source or credible authority who shares your view? Have you ever owned or shot a 28 gauge? Shot several, that's why I never owned one. They were meh. Not terrible, just meh. I have owned several 20s, and lots of 12s. What can a 28 do that a 20 cannot? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:35:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Poor ammo availability? 28 gauge is the only gauge I can fine around here outside of steel shot. Right next to the ammo for .455 Webley. Have you considered there's a reason it's available now? As in, nobody's buying it? |
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Posted: 10/13/2021 3:36:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, in other words, you can't direct me to a source or credible authority who shares your view? Have you ever owned or shot a 28 gauge? Would you care to address my point about shot string of the 28 vs. 20? Or is this all about feelz? |
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